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Carnor Jax	Posted - 2007.05.25 14:56:00 - [31] Edited by: Carnor Jax on 25/05/2007 18:10:03 Originally by: Ulesi The "be-all end-all" Hulk setup is 3x Modulated Strip Miner IIs 1x Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x Rat Specific Hardners 1x Eucetic Cap Recharger 2x Expanded Cargohold IIs 2x Cargo Optimzation Rigs 5x Hammerhead IIs End-o-Story You must not mine in true low sec space or with Sansha's! I have this exact setup and last night came within 2 seconds of losing my new hulk to a triple 950,000 isk Sansha BS spawn with a few frigs as well. They tore through my defenses like I didn't even have a shield booster on. I'm going to ditch the cargo rigs, ditch the cargo expanders, ditch the T2 cap recharger, and fit 2 cap recharge rigs, add a second gistii-a shield booster, and fit a mix of PDU T2's and mining upgrades if I can use a mining upgrade with this setup and run the tank, i'm not sure, and possibly shell out 100 mil a piece for some faction hardeners. of course sansha's are the hulks weak spot, so that doesn't help. But I can literally be torn to the ground in a matter of seconds, imagine if a triple 1.7mil BS spawn would've jumped on top of me? I'd be short a hulk right now I can tell you that much. And I'm caldari and have pretty decent shield skills...
n'yleth	Posted - 2007.05.27 06:29:00 - [32] Originally by: Carnor Jax Edited by: Carnor Jax on 25/05/2007 18:10:03 Originally by: Ulesi The "be-all end-all" Hulk setup is 3x Modulated Strip Miner IIs 1x Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x Rat Specific Hardners 1x Eucetic Cap Recharger 2x Expanded Cargohold IIs 2x Cargo Optimzation Rigs 5x Hammerhead IIs End-o-Story You must not mine in true low sec space or with Sansha's! I have this exact setup and last night came within 2 seconds of losing my new hulk to a triple 950,000 isk Sansha BS spawn with a few frigs as well. They tore through my defenses like I didn't even have a shield booster on. I'm going to ditch the cargo rigs, ditch the cargo expanders, ditch the T2 cap recharger, and fit 2 cap recharge rigs, add a second gistii-a shield booster, and fit a mix of PDU T2's and mining upgrades if I can use a mining upgrade with this setup and run the tank, i'm not sure, and possibly shell out 100 mil a piece for some faction hardeners. of course sansha's are the hulks weak spot, so that doesn't help. But I can literally be torn to the ground in a matter of seconds, imagine if a triple 1.7mil BS spawn would've jumped on top of me? I'd be short a hulk right now I can tell you that much. And I'm caldari and have pretty decent shield skills... MADNESS! You went lowsc.....in a HULK....without max skills minimum? Brave or stupid I do not know
Ulesi FinFleet	Posted - 2007.05.27 07:05:00 - [33] Originally by: Carnor Jax You must not mine in true low sec space or with Sansha's! I have this exact setup and last night came within 2 seconds of losing my new hulk to a triple 950,000 isk Sansha BS spawn with a few frigs as well. They tore through my defenses like I didn't even have a shield booster on. I'm going to ditch the cargo rigs, ditch the cargo expanders, ditch the T2 cap recharger, and fit 2 cap recharge rigs, add a second gistii-a shield booster, and fit a mix of PDU T2's and mining upgrades if I can use a mining upgrade with this setup and run the tank, i'm not sure, and possibly shell out 100 mil a piece for some faction hardeners. of course sansha's are the hulks weak spot, so that doesn't help. But I can literally be torn to the ground in a matter of seconds, imagine if a triple 1.7mil BS spawn would've jumped on top of me? I'd be short a hulk right now I can tell you that much. And I'm caldari and have pretty decent shield skills... Hmm never mined against EM damage...maybe put one EM rig and one cargo rig. But Ive tanked triple 1.7 Gurista spawns no problems. Even killed a Dread cruiser spawn one time with my drones
Emerald666 Amarr Initech Corporation Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2007.06.08 01:10:00 - [34] Edited by: Emerald666 on 08/06/2007 01:09:27 HINT: Tech level 2 vessels ALL carry only 2 Rig Slot. -.- Amarr 4TW! :)
Emerald666 Amarr Initech Corporation Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2007.06.08 01:14:00 - [35] Tech level 1 vessels ALL carry only 3 Rig Slots... With 400 Calibration. Amarr 4TW! :)
Blindbird	Posted - 2007.06.10 08:51:00 - [36] Originally by: Carnor Jax Edited by: Carnor Jax on 25/05/2007 18:10:03 Originally by: Ulesi The "be-all end-all" Hulk setup is 3x Modulated Yadda yadda snippy 5x Hammerhead IIs End-o-Story You must not mine in true low sec space or with Sansha's!snippy I'm going to snip add a second gistii-a shield booster, Snippetysnip And I'm caldari and have pretty decent shield skills... And what would you do with that second shield booster you nubbin?.. you sure cant run them at the same time. Anyways you obviouly cant boost enough to make up for the damage you are taking. and from playing around with setups myself I dont really think a shield boost amp will fit on the hulk. So you have to figure out how to take less damage. That means either boosting your resists or perhaps going faster. Taking out the Cargo Expanders will let you go faster, so there is some improvement already. putting in a damage control should give you another 2% resists to the highest resist.. an afterburner might also help, though I think you are better off putting in an invulnerability field. Even if its passive it should give you another 1-2% at max skill for the highest resist.. Low slots could be PDUIIs better shield and better cap.. overall nice.. and the cap recharge rigs should help let your cap keep up with your booster once it can keep up with the dps of the rats.. Or perhaps you have to face that a hulk cant tank everything that might be thrown at it.. had the same experience when I did a lvl 2 storyline mission in one :D Didnt have the proper modules or skill for tanking in it though..
Arendee	Posted - 2007.06.10 08:55:00 - [37] Wooops I posted with the wrong char.. Im the one that used my hulk for the storyline mission. The things you do to lose less minerals when refining. :D
GoTspeed Real Nice And Laidback Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.10 10:21:00 - [38] Im facing the same challenge with tanking 0.0 sanshas. Biggest I can tank with mentioned setups, exh. 4 and a anti-Em rig is 2x800k rats with support. my EM resistance is at +_80%, far too low ;)
Montague Snyde Gallente Spaced Cowboys	Posted - 2007.06.15 23:39:00 - [39] My humble setup is@ 3x Modulated Strip Miner IIs 1x Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x Rat Specific Hardners 1x Eucetic Cap Recharger 2x Expanded Cargohold IIs in low sec and 2x Mining Laser Upgrades in high sec 2x Cargo Optimzation Rigs 5x Hammerhead IIs If a player comes into the low sec system you are in Run. Your hulk cannot stand up to a player unless you beg. But the rats, I've mined as low as 0.1 without any problems. No wait one problem but that's because I forgot to put the hardeners on. Any other setup really is a waste of space and ISK in lower sec.
Lagerby White Nova Industries Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2007.06.16 17:28:00 - [40] The previous setups work brilliantly. My personal setup is as follows.. It's a bit on the expensive side, but it gets the job done. High 3- Strip Miners Medium 1x Gistii-A Small Shield Booster 1x Domination Shield Boost Amplifier 2x Named NPC-specific hardeners Low Whatever you want. MLU's, PDU's, WCS.. Rig 2x Capacitor Control Circuit 1
fishslap	Posted - 2007.07.01 21:04:00 - [41] hi slots: 3x Strip miners t2 med slots: 1x ab low slots: 2x cargo expander t2 rigs: 2x cargo op t2s large cargo area. nearly or more than half a can. best used in safer space unless with defenders in dangerous space
Haclya	Posted - 2007.07.23 08:10:00 - [42] I wonder if this setup is any good 3x Modulated Strip Miner II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x npc hadners Cap Recharger II 2x Aoede mining upgrades Anti-em screen reinforcer rig ccc rig
Mona X Caldari C0VEN	Posted - 2007.07.23 20:03:00 - [43] Originally by: Haclya I wonder if this setup is any good 3x Modulated Strip Miner II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x npc hadners Cap Recharger II 2x Aoede mining upgrades Anti-em screen reinforcer rig ccc rig No.
Kolwrath Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.23 20:14:00 - [44] Originally by: Ulesi The "be-all end-all" Hulk setup is 2x Modulated Strip Miner IIs 1x Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x Rat Specific Hardners 1x Eucetic Cap Recharger 2x Expanded Cargohold IIs 2x Cargo Optimzation Rigs 5x Hammerhead IIs End-o-Story I am gonna second the 2x Expanded Cargo II's setup. My Alt does ninja mining in 0.1 and you generally speaking dont want to mine into a can. Its way to risky for some pirate to come and (if you get away with your hide) blow up your can. So mining into a hold is a good way to go. This also applies to empire where ore thieves or pirates steal ore from you, either for the ore, or as a trap so that they can gank you.
Lougra Gallente United Forces	Posted - 2007.07.24 06:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Padma Sky Edited by: Padma Sky on 20/03/2007 14:28:41 hi: 3x small nos med: 1x scramblers, 2x webber , 1x passive targeter low: cpr ( and small rep if u can fit ) drones: 5x hammerheat T2 ( medium drones) Find someone is mining ( he will not warp because u are in a mining ship) and then passive target, scramble + double web, and kill them with drones. My mining director can kill you a lot faster than you. So a free pod? is welcome then
Barthezz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.24 09:55:00 - [46] Against Sansha I ran a Gistii + DG Photon / Heat + Domi Invul \| 1 MLU + 1 Cap Flux T2 \| 2x shield-boost speed increase It was tanking a 3 BC + 1x 1.2m spawn, however then 2 additional 1.2's showed up and it broke my tank. I wonder if a SBA instead of domi invul would have been better. Yes if you stagger the strip miners this runs just fine. Normally you get 28.5 shield/sec, with the shield boost speed rigs you get 38 shield/sec. Excluding natural shield regen. Hmm, with a SBA that would go to 52.25 shield/sec, I'll have to test that. Was a bit disappointed about the hulk's tank, but its probably because its vs Sansha.
Boonaki Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:32:00 - [47] 1x hulk some strip miners some sort of shield hardners some stuff in teh lows 1 POS 1 carrier sitting at the pos assigning fighters to the hulk profit! Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
Ebusitanus Segunda Fundacion O X I D E	Posted - 2007.07.31 12:33:00 - [48] I just got my first Hulk yesterday and since I will stay for a good while in High sec doing my mining I think I will go like this: High: 3 MSMII Med: Gist-a small shield booster, Eutetic Cap recharger, 2 Rat specific hardeners. Low: Expanded cargo II x2 2x Cargo rigs My biggest problem is the can thieves and these can be avoided completely if I¦m my own hauler. If I add several secure cans for the 900 metric gain each then I¦m in business. If I would join up with a gang or corp mine in high sec I would exchange those expanded cargos for mining upgrades. ------------------------------------------------ "Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!" Pompey the Great to the defenders of a besieged city who were crying outrage.
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.07.31 12:52:00 - [49] Originally by: Carnor Jax Edited by: Carnor Jax on 25/05/2007 18:10:03 I'm going to ditch the cargo rigs, ditch the cargo expanders, ditch the T2 cap recharger, and fit 2 cap recharge rigs, You're going to scrap 80 Million isk in rigs by removing the cargo rigs. Might as well keep that hulk for high sec, and buy another hulk on which you can put your cap recharge rigs, IMO.
anillation	Posted - 2007.07.31 12:53:00 - [50] This is the only way to go if in 0.0 3x Modulated Strip Miner II 2x Gistii A-type shield boosters 2x Rat specific Dread Guristas type hardeners 1x Dread Guristas shield amp 2x MLU or 1x MLU and PDU II (depends on cap skills) 2x CCC rigs Expensive but best way to go.Was tanking 2 bs and 3 cruisers last night. Raven pilot who is in alliance came to belt as he was ratting immediately asked me your tanking those in a hulk, whats your setup.
Jorek Glayyd	Posted - 2007.08.02 15:57:00 - [51] hey Annilation, did u invent your hulk with 5 med slots? if so, i want to buy one :)
Mona X Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.02 16:33:00 - [52] Originally by: anillation Expensive but best way to go.Was tanking 2 bs and 3 cruisers last night. Raven pilot who is in alliance came to belt as he was ratting immediately asked me your tanking those in a hulk, whats your setup. What rats?
Amelia Device	Posted - 2007.08.02 17:05:00 - [53] I want to tank my Hulk in 0.0 but am currently in the drone regions - as drones dont have a specific damage type, could you give me any pointers to modifications that will let me tank drone rats in 0.0?
Royaldo Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education	Posted - 2007.08.02 17:11:00 - [54] Originally by: Mona X Originally by: Haclya I wonder if this setup is any good 3x Modulated Strip Miner II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x npc hadners Cap Recharger II 2x Aoede mining upgrades Anti-em screen reinforcer rig ccc rig No. why isnt this any good?
Mona X Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.02 21:21:00 - [55] Edited by: Mona X on 02/08/2007 21:21:36 Originally by: Royaldo Originally by: Mona X Originally by: Haclya I wonder if this setup is any good 3x Modulated Strip Miner II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 2x npc hadners Cap Recharger II 2x Aoede mining upgrades Anti-em screen reinforcer rig ccc rig No. why isnt this any good? 1. Named MLU's are broken so it's waste of money until rev 2.2. 2. Shield rigs increases signature radius, so, what he'll gain from better EM resists (and I point you to "2x npc hadners" so this is supposed to be versatile fit) against Sansha and Blood raiders, he'll loose by being bigger target (missiles will hit him with better damage, guns will hit more often). 3. it's too expensive. :P
Graduran Anguirill Swedish Academy	Posted - 2007.08.08 17:44:00 - [56] how are they broken? Ive tried to find info on these new MLU, where do they drop? :) ~~o~~ Shike from DAoC ~~o~~
Doctor Zero	Posted - 2007.08.09 03:38:00 - [57] A just for fun setup (havent tried it ever...in EFT works great though): High: 3xMSM II Med: 1xMedium Shield Extender II 1xInvulnerability Field II 1xShield Recharger II 1xPhoton Scattering Field II Low: 2x RCU II Rigs: 1x Ancillary Current Router I 1x Cargohold Optimization I Very tight in PG and CPU but it fits Has 79.2/65/73.8/82.5 Em/Therm/Kin/Expl resists 3082 Shield / 398.4 Recharge (Shield Operation V, Shield Management IV) 1234 m3 yield per min (3702 m3 per cycle) No cap probs with energy management and energy systems op IV. Cargo 9200m3 (Almost 2.5 cycles fit easily) I guess it gives you enough time to tank to get the hell out of there :P Reminder: Fun setup :)
boo0meR	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:55:00 - [58] Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron Originally by: Jester Marc I was wondering if I could get some advice on how to fit my Hulk. I just finished training my skill of Exhumer 4 and am new to exhumers and relatively new to mining. I plan on mining in 0.0 space on whatever is the best return for my investment. Thank you. "...relatively new to mining" and you're at Exhumers IV? People in frigates and cruisers are "relatively new to mining..." Of course, looking at your bio... My advice is to join a real corporation and learn the ropes. As for 0.0 mining, if you think you're going to traipse on down to 0.0 and not get blown into bits, you're kidding yourself. And, no, I'm not being mean. Nobody who's been in the game as long as your employment history and characteristics should be so entirely clueless to this. So I'm guessing you've just got this character however you got it.
Shinhan Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:29:00 - [59] Now that MLU II is in, whats the best Hulk setup? And whats the best cost effective solution? Aoede or MLU II and Faction hardeners? -- Selling apples, 1 signature each. ѼѼѼѼѼѼѼ
Mona X Caldari C0VEN	Posted - 2007.09.16 22:34:00 - [60] Originally by: Shinhan Now that MLU II is in, whats the best Hulk setup? Right now I advertise semi-passive solution with Gisii SB and 3 Caldari Navy amplifiers. Amplifiers needs only 20 tf, so it is possible to fit them with 2 MLUs II with mining upgrades at level 5 (or 'Gypsy' KMB-50). Right now they're also not too expensive (40-50M for EM i thermal. Kin and explo aren't available right now.). With CPU implant you could switch Gistii with Pithi SB. Strong tank agains NPCs (requires shield compensations at 4 at least), low cap drain, max yeld. Originally by: Shinhan And whats the best cost effective solution? Tech 2 SB + tech 2 amplifiers + MLU I or cheapest named. Originally by: Shinhan Aoede or MLU II and Faction hardeners? Right now there is only 1 Aoede on the contract, starting bid is set on 500M, buyout 700. Who is gonna buy that?

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