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Eldon Tyrell
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:18:00 -
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CCP you are taking way too long to upgrade this very old rendering engine. I been playing off and on since 2003 and was reading up on it for years before its release so I know how old this engine really is.
Now I read that the Directx10 upgrade could be over a year away. Even with the snazzy new textures and bump mapping that the DX10 upgrade will offer, I wonder if that's really enough to bring this game up to current industry standards.
In any case I have run out of patience and have cancelled my accounts will keep them on ice for now. And walking around in stations in my avatar will not be bringing me back.
It's time to overhaul this engine CCP or you will see your original core of players begin to fade away. Your user base will eventually begin to shrink as new more impressive online games begin to appear.
upgrades that count: *flexible interface:(declutter options etc) *some form of in-flight physics (inertia modelling etc). *Redo the net code to allow for more interactive combat. *customizable sounds (selective)....some of the laser sounds in this game really get on my nerves after 3 years. Across the board use of shaders, advanced rendering techniques etc...
I realize you have a lot of people playing this game with 4-5 year old systems that will scream bloody murder if you make a real upgrade but for the rest of us it's time for EVE 2.
I made my vote by withdrawing my money support.
Don't let the competition pass you by CCP.
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Mineral Sales
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:19:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari Warhounds
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:23:00 -
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meh
honestly this is a good point,. but there is a lot more to a game than the UI. well most games at least, this game is kinda UI or bust.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:24:00 -
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you wont be missed :P see ya
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BlazeRage
Caldari Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:26:00 -
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theres more to EVE then its graphics m8, explore EVE some, find a niche to make it enjoyable and just be patient for the upgrade. The more you rush a game's development the worse off it turns out to be.
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Princess Voodoo
Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:30:00 -
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Who is eve competing with?
No one.
Good bye.
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Haffrage
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Eldon Tyrell
*customizable sounds (selective)....some of the laser sounds in this game really get on my nerves after 3 years.
You know what bugs my ears? When people whine and whine about this and that. It just really grinds my gears.
Although I do agree, graphical update would be damn nice, getting fairly tired of the same old graphical bugs after so long. -----
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FlameWrath
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: FlameWrath on 11/03/2007 03:33:59
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Eldon Tyrell
*customizable sounds (selective)....some of the laser sounds in this game really get on my nerves after 3 years.
You know what bugs my ears? When people whine and whine about this and that. It just really grinds my gears.
Although I do agree, graphical update would be damn nice, getting fairly tired of the same old graphical bugs after so long.
i just hope my graphics card can handle the new graphics without a meltdown lol
(damn alt BlazeRage btw)
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Taedrin
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:44:00 -
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2 things -
First of all, I think that these sort of threads are supposed to be posted in the off topic forum (out of pod). The reason for this? Nobody in this forum really cares, unless you are SirMolle, Seleene, Dark Shikari, Innonimate Nightmare, or some other EVE celebrity.
Second, can I have your stuff? I accept ISK donations and private contracts. 
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Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:46:00 -
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I was under the impression that two graphics updates were in the making. One of them being the DX10/Vista upgrade which is a more than a year off, but the DX9/WinXP update was coming during 2007. The half-dozen or so ship/station models they've shown so far are pretty freakin nice, that's for sure.
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:46:00 -
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Cya. Stop moaning. Nobody likes you anyway.
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:46:00 -
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So.... something like THIS?
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:48:00 -
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He'll probably come back... unless he finds wow...
EvE has some **** points but we still love it, even with all our whinging.
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Nim9i5
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:54:00 -
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fleet warfare, pos, outposts, and cap ships... need changes. Battleship class and lower is really great balance. But the cap ships are too easy to get now, especially with so many titans which makes fighting retarded. There needs to be a change in the game, its at the point where you cant make anything more powerful than a titan . Maybe just make cap ships way more expensive, and allow the ability to blow up outposts.. that way huge alliance like bob cant just sit around wait for someone to take over a system then take back their outposts. There will actually be losses other than ships if you allow outposts to be blown up. people dont really care to lose an outpost cause you can just recapture it later. anyhow cap ships, pos, and outposts really need a tune up -- would liek to see some drastic changes, battleship class ships and lower are awesome though
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.11 03:57:00 -
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I've never seen this particular whine on the Eve-O fora. Appears in reviews of sequels a lot.
Eve was a great game. Certain aspects which were great have remained unchanged. These aspects are now bad for no apparent reason.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the core playerbase are the one group who aren't going to leave over this, because they play because they like Eve not because they like the latest greatest game which, for a period of time, happens to be Eve.
It's people like you, who just want shiny new graphics and gameplay ever five minutes, who will leave. And good riddance. Many great series of games have died trying to continually change to appease the short attention span of the masses, rather than staying true to the original core idea. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |

Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:02:00 -
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I find stuff like this baffling. The one thing Eve does is look good. There are problems in Eve and around Eve -- but the way it looks isn't particularly one of them.
So, I guess see you around. Or not. Whatever.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/03/2007 04:01:44
Originally by: Taedrin 2 things -
First of all, I think that these sort of threads are supposed to be posted in the off topic forum (out of pod). The reason for this? Nobody in this forum really cares, unless you are SirMolle, Seleene, Dark Shikari, Innonimate Nightmare, or some other EVE celebrity.
IBDS... oh wait! 
Seriously though, you're complaining about the graphics? EVE's are still quite good... better than most modern MMORPGs by a long shot.
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Minsc
Gallente A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Eldon Tyrell CCP you are taking way too long to upgrade this very old rendering engine. I been playing off and on since 2003 and was reading up on it for years before its release so I know how old this engine really is.
Now I read that the Directx10 upgrade could be over a year away. Even with the snazzy new textures and bump mapping that the DX10 upgrade will offer, I wonder if that's really enough to bring this game up to current industry standards.
In any case I have run out of patience and have cancelled my accounts will keep them on ice for now. And walking around in stations in my avatar will not be bringing me back.
It's time to overhaul this engine CCP or you will see your original core of players begin to fade away. Your user base will eventually begin to shrink as new more impressive online games begin to appear.
upgrades that count: *flexible interface:(declutter options etc) *some form of in-flight physics (inertia modelling etc). *Redo the net code to allow for more interactive combat. *customizable sounds (selective)....some of the laser sounds in this game really get on my nerves after 3 years. Across the board use of shaders, advanced rendering techniques etc...
I realize you have a lot of people playing this game with 4-5 year old systems that will scream bloody murder if you make a real upgrade but for the rest of us it's time for EVE 2.
I made my vote by withdrawing my money support.
Don't let the competition pass you by CCP.
So the 2 million + dollars they've already spent on redoing the oh, 300+ models in the game means they're not working hard enough to get the graphics engine update done. This is a complete revamp of the engine. It's being rebuilt from the ground up. It's not something you can slap together in a month or two. EVERYTHING we've seen of the new engine looks amazing and in most cases should run a hell of a lot better than currently because it's actually going to USE the hardware available to it, instead of mostly relying on the CPU.
Also they've said they've hired someone to redo the sound engine, which should help out a hell of a lot as well.
God I ****en hate arm-chair developers. 
Originally by: Sharkbait please for the love of god read the dam stickies
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Luc Guerrier
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin ...Nobody in this forum really cares, unless you are SirMolle, Seleene, Dark Shikari, Innonimate Nightmare, or some other EVE celebrity.
Even then I wouldn't give a ****.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:23:00 -
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graphics are nothing, gameplay is everything
Originally by: Snuggly It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
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Haffrage
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn graphics are nothing, gameplay is everything
This argument is more full of it than putting it the other way around.
If a game looks like absolute CRAP then nobody's going to play it, I don't care HOW good the gameplay is without it. Gameplay and graphics go hand in hand. Half of the experience is the immersion, and it's damn hard to immerse yourself in a 2 bit game of pong with both bars having fitting slots and drone bays. I'll take a game that keeps me visually entertained and challenged in gameplay over a "better" game with **** graphics any day, because it'll be more fun and entertaining. You've got eyes, use em. -----
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn graphics are nothing, gameplay is everything
This argument is more full of it than putting it the other way around.
If a game looks like absolute CRAP then nobody's going to play it, I don't care HOW good the gameplay is without it. Gameplay and graphics go hand in hand. Half of the experience is the immersion, and it's damn hard to immerse yourself in a 2 bit game of pong with both bars having fitting slots and drone bays. I'll take a game that keeps me visually entertained and challenged in gameplay over a "better" game with **** graphics any day, because it'll be more fun and entertaining. You've got eyes, use em.
Out of the two, his is the more correct way of putting it.
I would actually say that graphics age, gameplay lasts forever. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |

Imas Pi
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:59:00 -
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to OP: LOL
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Haffrage
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.11 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn graphics are nothing, gameplay is everything
This argument is more full of it than putting it the other way around.
If a game looks like absolute CRAP then nobody's going to play it, I don't care HOW good the gameplay is without it. Gameplay and graphics go hand in hand. Half of the experience is the immersion, and it's damn hard to immerse yourself in a 2 bit game of pong with both bars having fitting slots and drone bays. I'll take a game that keeps me visually entertained and challenged in gameplay over a "better" game with **** graphics any day, because it'll be more fun and entertaining. You've got eyes, use em.
Out of the two, his is the more correct way of putting it.
I would actually say that graphics age, gameplay lasts forever.
I think the words you're looking for are "slightly less wrong." Neither expression is correct. Graphics are a direct part of gameplay, the same way camera control and character interaction would be, since they directly effect your gameplay experience. -----
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Rick Thwaites
A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.11 05:17:00 -
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To OP, people used to play text-based MUDs.
Next, if you are leaving because of the graphics, leave by all means. Because you don't belong then. If you can't see the in depth parts of this game, good riddance. Even the roid suckers have fun, with graphics as they are (I think they are on drugs, myself...).
Go try WoW, I heard their graphics are the pizzown, or maybe Everquest, Final Fantasy (insert number). Because their graphics are clearly better than EvE's. --
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Jekaterine
Gallente Virtucon
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Posted - 2007.03.11 05:34:00 -
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Someone else has said it but it's good enough to say again.
How come the only people posting about quitting seem to have at least 3 accounts ?
Either way good luck to you and I hope you find a game that suits you better. -------------- I can love my fellow man but I'm damned if I love yours. |

T'Laar Bok
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Eldon Tyrell ... have cancelled my accounts ...
CCP needs to introduce 6 month non-refundable pre-cancelled accounts as a convenient option for people to express their displeasure.
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Eeyore
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:38:00 -
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Eldon Tyrell, bye .... ! Hope we will not see you again, whiners are .... well not pleasant ppl.
I've been waiting for few years for openGL of some sort ... not gonna happen ..... well .. maybe openAL for the sound .... nope .... DX10, who cares about that sh1t? How many of you have the systems ready for vista? How many of you want M$ spyware on your systems which come with vista? How many of you want DRM ?
I don't want any of that sh1t and i can deal with somewhat nice but old and slow graphic engine, I can deal playing without sound, cause there is just nothing better. Oh and walking in stations .... if IF they'll make it possible to shoot ppl in station , imagine how many more customers they will get from those FPS fans ..... :)) ------------- Gloomy Domesticated Ass |

Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:49:00 -
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Wait, you're leaving because they're taking too long to upgrade the graphics!?
Um.......what the hell? ----------------
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:50:00 -
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Graphics are not important.
The UI is though, as is gameplay, and those two need fixing.
Can I have the stuff from one of your other accounts? Like numbers 2-3?
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