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Emperor
Rome SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor on 12/03/2007 05:19:01
a bit of background first: SMASH was invited by RED and GOONSWARM to join the coalition against LV. SMASH accepted the offer and were offered the system of 77s and full rights to the 10/10 plex in that system. SMASH helps destroy the LV capital productoin facilities in JV1V as well as helps seige many other LV systems with the aid of GOONSWARM. SMASH destroys all enemy POS's in 77s and deploys a few POS's of our own to take soverignty of the system we were suppost to be given.
RED alliance demands full access to the 10/10 plex, while GOON had already told SMASH that we would be given full access. An agreement is reached where the plex would be split 50/50 so SMASH would get it for 2 weeks of the month, RED the other 2 weeks. 2 days after this, RED alliance announces they want to buy a mothership from 1 of the pilots in SMASH who is a known empire pirate and scammer. Peoke informs RED that he is a very high-risk person to deal with and that RED should use Peoke or myself as a middle man to broker the trade of the mothership so that RED does not get ripped off. Red decides to ignore that advice and goes directly to the pilot and gives him 10 billion ISK. He then pods the RED pilot who came to pick up the Mothership, and leaves SMASH with the ISK. RED holds SMASH responsiable and gives us 72 hours to pay them their lost ISK or to get out of the area. Because the area is so rich and we had already invested a good deal of time and effort into securing the area, we decide it would be best just to pay RED. We offer them the money, but RED refuses, saying that they no longer trust SMASH and that we need to get out of the war. You can take this however you wish to, however it seems very clear to me that this was all a power-play for the 10/10 plex. So SMASH pulls out of the war and goes home to Geminate. GOON advises us to stay clear of RED as RED alliance has now re-set SMASH. SMASH pilots are given the order not to go past N-RAEL and not to raid RED space. RED's response to our trying to avoid them and let them fight BOB was to send raiding partys into geminate into TDE4-H, our home system. The raids increased untill within the last week we have had 4-5 diffrent raids a day, each raid containing an average of 10 RED pilots. SMASH decided that it would be in our best intrest to help the war effort against BOB still, so we moved our main PvP fleet over to the Outer Ring/Cloud Ring area to help GOON and D2 secure Cloud Ring and to help push into Fountain. The day after we moved our fleet out of TDE, RED deploys a medium POS and brings in 2 dreads and 4 carriers. Dispite our best efforts to stay away from RED and allow them to fight BOB, RED have felt that SMASH is clearly the greater threat and has decided to move on us instead of BOB.
From this moment onward we are activly hunting RED alliance pilots. The POS they deployed in TDE4-H has already been hit into reinforced mode. It is my hope that GOONSWARM, CA, Tao Ceti, and all of RED's other allies will see that we have done our best to aid the war effort against BOB and would like all of RED's allies to stay out of the war between SMASH and RED, but that of course is up to those individual alliances. I would appreciate it if diplomats from all of RED's allies would mail me informing me of their stance toward SMASH considering what I have said in this post. |

Veinnail
Solstice Systems Development Concourse SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:18:00 -
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Edited by: Veinnail on 12/03/2007 05:19:33 1st
way to stand w/ your coalition
lets have it
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Golden Helmet
Caldari Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:22:00 -
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Kill the Reddies!
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Jagged VanEyck
Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:23:00 -
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sorry m8. doesnt sound like much fun... ----------------------------------------------- "No drone left behind..." MercU |

Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:24:00 -
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freedom fairies attack ;o
Click above for my killboard stats. |

Antithysis
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:24:00 -
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Time for the Reddies to burn!  ---------
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SencneS
Amarr Keepers of the Holy Bagel SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:24:00 -
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Feel the love 
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Send ISK to SencneS for good Kama! |

Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:25:00 -
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I know goons hold SMASH in high regards, it's crap these events went down. -
WeComeInPeace Video |

Fedaykin Naib
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:25:00 -
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Knowing theres always two sides to a story, and not having heard the other side yet. If this all holds up, thats some pretty *** **** REDS
"Long Live the Fighters!"
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Sap Stabdrip
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:26:00 -
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You gonna get raped. |

Emrod
Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:26:00 -
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Oh noes...
I have a badfeeling about all of this....
I sell some logoffski t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P |

Kristoffer
Amarr Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:33:00 -
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Good. Get out of the Outer Ring.
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Frothgar
Caldari Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:34:00 -
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SMASH has always been good company, I hope differences can be resolved reasonable.
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searchi
tiberian suns
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:35:00 -
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Edited by: searchi on 12/03/2007 05:33:12 seems reds urge to make isk by camping all complexes that they can get their hand on is stronger than their binding to the coalition. i dont see them actively invading bob space. might be even possible they arrange with them in a temporary sharing agreement. probably red knows, that IF ever bob and allies get dealt with they will be seen as the next treath to game stability by their urge to get their hands onto all the complexes
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:35:00 -
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WTF ;\ IAC doesn't even get a mention ;[
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Emperor
Rome SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:37:00 -
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fixxed, srry about that. |

Brakan
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:38:00 -
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Internal strife ftw! |

Varheg Xan
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:39:00 -
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D-R-A-M-A!
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VinceNoir
Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:39:00 -
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This sucks dude, but look at the bright side. RA are 10bn ISK down 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:40:00 -
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Thank you, my feelings were deeply hurt 
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kirex on 12/03/2007 05:40:22 removed: Notworth it to start a flame war about somthing different than the situation at hand ;/
Click above for my killboard stats. |

Budz Fergie
Caldari Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:41:00 -
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Sounds like RA are happy now that LV aren't there and now are cleaning up the area.
Sounds similar to what they did after the 5 left too.
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Thank you, my feelings were deeply hurt 
/me give a Quebec beer to Tyrrax
Now you gonna feel better 
I sell some logoffski t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P |

Kristoffer
Amarr Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex
Originally by: Kristoffer Good. Get out of the Outer Ring.
ROFL Aren't you guys the ones who asked us for a nap? Then when we started heading back to TDE you turned on us while we were blue? HAHA
The NAP was agreed upon under false pretense. Your complete abuse of that NAP, not to mention the fact that you locked a number of our pilots and even shot down a blue ship caused us to 'turn on you' Your occupation force was well informed of the standings change before hostilities comenced today.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:47:00 -
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What? RED alliance altering agreements to what they want? No, can't be. 
Aligning with certain people has consequences. Nothing worst then being stabbed in the back, but that should be expected from RED. They do have a record of opting out of agreements whenever they feel like it. Once no longer needed, it's 'boom' time. More folks will find that out the hard way as this war progresses.
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Tenaka Kahn
Minmatar Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:50:00 -
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I love the pity plea seeing as that SMASH recently attempted to invade our space saying that they were after kicking BoB out of a 10/10 complex in our neck of the woods. After which you set us to blue and then proceeded to attack and camp us in station demanding we request permission. Not really the way friends are supposed to treat one another. But, I'm sure some folks will be fooled by your BS but it would seem RA and several other people know what you guys are truly about. Good luck and have fun.
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Lighti
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:50:00 -
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How I know there was some problems between our pilots,citizens and SMESH.
1. Our pilot noticed a SMESH gang (they had + that time), and pilot with negative standings with them. So RA pilot attacked pilot with negative standings. RA pilot was killed by SMESH gang.
2. Our citizines was constantly killed by SMESH gangs.
3. SMESH there is no any big movement towards u from RA. Its just ppl having fun. We look at it as at hunting activity, not any kind of war...
PS. This is not official statement, just info I know. PSS. Sorry form my english f1, f2, f3.
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Anndy
Caldari Praetorian Black Guard
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Emrod
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Thank you, my feelings were deeply hurt 
/me give a Quebec beer to Tyrrax
Now you gonna feel better 
Quebec has their own beer now? dam i guess the separation is almost complete :P
anyway back on topic
RA have been famous for turning on their friends, i highly doubt they will actually invade BOB space, i'd bet they sit where they are now and keep collecting isk as they always have
i'm just counting the days till they turn on goons
Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected]) |

Raid
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk WTF ;\ IAC doesn't even get a mention ;[

I enjoyed that as well.
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Choi
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:56:00 -
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Oh snap, it's on now!
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