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Silver Sheath
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:57:00 -
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*Sticks a bulls-eye sign on his back*
So......I've been curious, what's the problem with ore thieving?
Thieving = A Form of Piracy
This I understand, it just seems they get a lot more flak than standard pew-pew pirates.
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:03:00 -
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i dont know... 
 Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. 
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Darcy Killar
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:06:00 -
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I donno we don't get much flak... And we steal ore just to get you mad so we can blow you up...
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Silver Sheath
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:15:00 -
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Well, I don't do it so much for that, more to get the ore for my manufacturing buddy. A hauler with a cargo cap of 10k can get a good bit into a station. That is, if you're running back and forth between belts fast enough.
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Jei'son Bladesmith
Caldari
Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:20:00 -
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I think the miners get upset because a lot of miners stick to hi-sec because its safer, but ore-theiving is the one form of piracy thats actually EASIER in high-sec; in low sec somebody shows up near your mining op a gangmate can blast em, in high-sec even if you KNOW they're an ore-thief there ain't a damned thing you can do until he actually steals your ore, and even only you and corpmates can shoot, AND if the thief knows what he's doing its still tough to stop him. Having spent many a night orejacking macros, I developed a very effective technique, if I BM a jetcan beforehand and am careful about my warp-in vector, I can warp in, nab the can, and warp out within seconds. Executed properly the miner/corpmates dont have time to lock much less open fire.
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Paul Steelman
Amarr
Soubeyran Family Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:36:00 -
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The problem with ore thieving is that we take what they think is theirs. They feel entitled to it.
Last night I had some fool with quite an attitude convo me about my thievery. The way he talked to me made him seem like he thought I was a ten-year-old. He asked me "Do you know what hinder means, little booyyyy?"
I intend to return and continue stealing, despite his threats of uber "alternates" (doesn't abbreviate that fsr) that would kill me.
Of course then he'd be hindering that mining operation that he cares so much about. Either way he loses, though I don't necessarily win.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:39:00 -
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Because it takes no skill; as much as I hate gate campers, they atleast shoot you when you're down, and there are ways to get away. Ore Thieves are like that fat kid who steals your lunch. You can try and fight back in your mining barge, but they will just walk off to eat your food.
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Shiva Shane
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:43:00 -
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Paul,
You mean, he got mad enough he threatened to kill you? You better back off then, don't you know that contributing to the delinquency of a *miner* is illegal?
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Darcy Killar
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Silver Sheath
Well, I don't do it so much for that, more to get the ore for my manufacturing buddy. A hauler with a cargo cap of 10k can get a good bit into a station. That is, if you're running back and forth between belts fast enough.
We do that too so that my alt can make cheap ships for my corp. More mins in the corp hanger means cheaper ships!!
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Lal QelThyr
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:51:00 -
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Which means more suicidal raids on Battleships and Battlecruisers
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Paul Steelman
Amarr
Soubeyran Family Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shiva Shane
Paul,
You mean, he got mad enough he threatened to kill you? You better back off then, don't you know that contributing to the delinquency of a *miner* is illegal?
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Shiva Shane
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:55:00 -
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It was intended to be humorous, never mind then.
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Lal QelThyr
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Posted - 2007.03.12 20:00:00 -
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I think that the destruction of ore rocks is wrong. Thus I liberate that which has been mined and return it to its natural enviroment. Sometime. Its probably gonna get blown up into a wreck in a astroib belt, it can find its own way from there
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.03.12 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jex Jast on 12/03/2007 19:59:38
Originally by: Shiva Shane
It was intended to be humorous, never mind then.
I know, I just didn't get it.
It went like this:
---whoosh--->
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.....^that's my head
EDIT: Damn main....
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Silver Sheath
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Posted - 2007.03.12 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Darcy Killar
Originally by: Silver Sheath
Well, I don't do it so much for that, more to get the ore for my manufacturing buddy. A hauler with a cargo cap of 10k can get a good bit into a station. That is, if you're running back and forth between belts fast enough.
We do that too so that my alt can make cheap ships for my corp. More mins in the corp hanger means cheaper ships!!
Yeah! Easiest thing for a "real" pirate to do is get BPCs of all your standard equipment, steal enough ore for a million (or so :) ) of each, and then you can steal so you can steal some more! Then you can steal even more! And guess what THAt leads to!?!?!?!?
Thief + Ore = Ore Thief + New guns = Pirate + More Ore = Better Pirate = Better Thief + More Ore = Better Ore Thief + Single Malt Liquor = Me
Er.........yeah
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.12 21:09:00 -
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Hehe, when we mention a "mining op" in our corp, it means finding a barge and stealing the ore. It's so much faster (and more fun).
The reason it gets so much flak is people feel safe in hisec, and they get all ****y when something happens to them. Boo-frickity-hoo. You'll see an equal number of complaints against hisec ganking and Privateers.
As a member of the Asteroid Rights Group it is my duty to stop the evil miners from stripping the environment bare. 
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Silver Sheath
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Posted - 2007.03.12 21:35:00 -
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I just feel bad for those haulers, they are so overworked. And those poor jetcans wake up every morning to some guys stuffing things into his......ore-ifices... We must save these abused pieces of equipment.....and the ore too.....yeah....thats good
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Silver Sheath
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Posted - 2007.03.12 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kruel
As a member of the Asteroid Rights Group it is my duty to stop the evil miners from stripping the environment bare.
I too am a member of ARG ;)
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 23:46:00 -
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i actually dont steal it but just put the ore in my can and blow it up while they can look at it, its just so much more fun they actually did all their work for nothing except for my pleasure to blow it up. they still dont realize that smacking me for that brings even more joy into my life
Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Silver Sheath
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:27:00 -
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Ah, theres that nasty line between griefing and stealing XD
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Saint Lazarus
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:27:00 -
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Pffff honestly, who cares if the miner gets PO'd thats the whole dam point, hell I do it half the time for the great convos in local afterwards
Plus yeah like someone said, easy way to get minirals, lot more fun than just buyin it
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UnAlT
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Posted - 2007.03.13 02:01:00 -
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oh you stupid little kids , u under estimate the poor miner .... where do you think u get your minerals to build your ships ? or to make the ammo...?? i'd love to see all the miners stop mining, the builders to stop building ...u'll have 3 "options" :
1.start mining so u can build new ships (and when that will happen , we'll come and steal your ore)
2.beg us to go back and mine/build
3.fight with your pod's .... bumping pod's .
the miner is the one that keeps that universe running ....no miners--->no minerals--->no ships/ammo/mods--->no YOU ! 
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Saint Lazarus
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Posted - 2007.03.13 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: UnAlT
oh you stupid little kids , u under estimate the poor miner .... where do you think u get your minerals to build your ships ? or to make the ammo...?? i'd love to see all the miners stop mining, the builders to stop building ...u'll have 3 "options" :
1.start mining so u can build new ships (and when that will happen , we'll come and steal your ore)
2.beg us to go back and mine/build
3.fight with your pod's .... bumping pod's .
the miner is the one that keeps that universe running ....no miners--->no minerals--->no ships/ammo/mods--->no YOU !
Yeah well I'd love for all pirates to stop piratin for a week and watch what happens to the market, without ships goin BOOM theres no people buyin replacements or new equipment, hence mining for minerals would pretty soon be pointless
no pirates to keep the economy runnin = no POINT to minin
Think a little harder next time before ya try to act smart
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Lal QelThyr
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Posted - 2007.03.13 02:20:00 -
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Good thing that with the ore we "mine" *cough steal* we build replacement ships
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Hadean Drive Yards
Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.03.13 02:40:00 -
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WCS II and cheap cargo expanders and a blaser. You can get away when you have to, get a good chunk of their ore and shoot back and destroy them is some poor soul decides to take you on.
Also, get someone in a noob corp to get in your gang and flip the can, then just use a regular hualler fitted for max capacity to empty it, i also suggest going after macros and isk farmers, sometimes you can sit there and just take from their can all day without them noticeing.
Ice is also very profitable.
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Lavinrac Krad
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Posted - 2007.03.13 03:36:00 -
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As a miner and an Ore Thief I find nothing wrong with Ore Thieving. Sometimes you see an AFK miner and need to bring them into your stable. You got to tell that -----, "-- I don't love you, where is my scrodite?" And then they respond, "I'm with a pimp!" Then you gotta tell em, "-----! Where is that mark --- trick now? If he was a real pimp, then he would be watching over you, --! Gimme my scratch!" If they give you trouble, sometimes you gotta smack em. Hit em in the stomach, you don't want to bruise the face. Also, take your rings off first, they cause too much damage. Now if they keep causing trouble, like trying to hide some ore on you, then you gotta take a wingtip shoe to their ---.
But yeah, ore theft ain't easy. Too many scandelous AFK --s!
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Landrassa
Astral Resource Cartel
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Posted - 2007.03.13 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kruel
Hehe, when we mention a "mining op" in our corp, it means finding a barge and stealing the ore. It's so much faster (and more fun).
The reason it gets so much flak is people feel safe in hisec, and they get all ****y when something happens to them. Boo-frickity-hoo. You'll see an equal number of complaints against hisec ganking and Privateers.
As a member of the Asteroid Rights Group it is my duty to stop the evil miners from stripping the environment bare.
And as a miner it is my duty to stop those damn rocks from growing all the time and give the ore inside a chance to roam the universe as a battleship some day. You're keeping the poor ore down....you're..... The Man(tm) 
Anywayz, don't just toss all high-sec miners onto the same heap. Yeah, I got a bit miffed the first time someone took off with my can full of pyro, but it's just one of the things you have to learn to deal with. Ore thieves are as much a part of mining as belt rats and you need to take appropriate measures to defend yourself against them. Acting like an ass after failing to do so has nothing to do with being a miner, and everything to do with being an ass who sits in his barge feeling stupid.
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Vogon
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:40:00 -
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There are ore thieves and there are ore removal artists...
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Galaxy Punks
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:38:00 -
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Haven't mined in empire for a long time. Even when I did secure giant cans are the only way to go.
However I thought with the kill rights that was added to the game, that would be the end to ore theives.
Seems I was wrong...
I thought the kill rights went to the entire corp? Granted if it's to a sole person then only an uber miner would be able to take on an indy pilot in a mining barge or semi ratting/mining setup ship.
For those that don't mine direct into a giant can - You are a fool. Giant sec can prices are.... pretty much fixed so it's an investment that can pay itself off over time, and not that long a time either. The real isk is getting giant sec cans up to 0.0 though.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:07:00 -
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I was under the impression the entire corp gets kill rights. The player is criminally flagged to their Corp, so that;s how it should work.
The exception being NPC corps.
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