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Valkazm
Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sokhar WE, WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
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batloard
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sacura G AAA and RA just logoffed near 45 dreads in PB!
proof or stfu!!!
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Darpz on 14/03/2007 05:23:29
Originally by: Sat Thu and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
See the future you can. Powerful you must be
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan heh...Half of eve is going to be in BOB's backyard.
fixed
I still give MC the benefit of the doubt in this matter tbh.
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Bienurdau Hywoaf
Minmatar Matari Holo News Network
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sat Thu
Originally by: Shin Ra JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
They did nothing all the times BoB used the tactic themselves. What's good for the gander is good for the goose so to speak.
At the same time perhaps some dev will take note of this and begin reinforcing the nodes of that area. Jita like nodes for it and all the systems around it. Probably won't stop a crash but might mitigate it.
As far as the MC shipyards. They've lost only a few capital ships so far, but it makes sense they would be producing ships for continuing replacements. Even if they aren't using them now, they would eventually as attrition takes place have to use them. Therefore strategically speaking removing that capability is in the coalitions best interest.
War is about reducing the opponents ability to wage war, as much as it is about taking territory. Thus in EVE POSs that produce ships, ammo, drones, modules, etc would be strategically prime targets, especially in 0.0 where there are fewer NPC stations.
MC is also the next logical choice for attack. Taking them down would allow more access directly to BoB, giving more options to the coalition as to where to hit BoB reducing the impact tactically of BoB's titans since the more border is exposed the less you can predict where the enemy will hit you.
Folks haven't realized that the Northern attack was only a feint. It was never meant to take territory initially only to tie up BoB and its other allies resources allowing time for Red Alliance, GoonSwarm, SMASH, etc to destroy LV's hold on territory, while KOS and IAC pressed the attack against ISS removing them.
If I was the commanding defense fleet commander, I'd be looking at a more dynamic defense plan than was used in LV1V, without one the MC cap shipyards will fall as well.
(This is just my strategic and tactical observations, something I actually am pretty good at. Strategy games are among my favorites and EVE is a large Strategy game in many ways, in time as I learn more about ships and modules etc I might could actually figure out a defense against such an attack.)
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MalaMo
TMF
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya What the North is attacking again when no one is home
You should pay atention on EVE history class... Hint: It has something with ASCN and GIRON. ------------- Don't drink and drive, logon to EVE and fly. |
OozoO
Caldari Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:21:00 -
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guys, we are fighting Bo .. B, the node will not crash .... --------------
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Chuck Dawg
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2
Originally by: Zhaine . JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
If JV1V wasn't a big achievement, than killing a logged of titan was even less of a big deal.
Damn it ! I wish I would have thought of that comment first! People like to downplay the victories of their enemy and praise their own. Odd how that works.
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Ikarushka
Gallente A.O.U. Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:39:00 -
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and if the whole blobing thing wouldn't will not owrk out I forsee lots of excuses about BoB meta gaming etc, ain't both sides the same?) any way, gl guys and have fun
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Chuck Dawg
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Wantakoner
Originally by: V0rador Bob and friends few weeks ago : we'll crush eve all of you !!!
Now : bouhhh goon crash node bandwagon and *****train coming
Get ready for the excuses , make a list etc you will need it sooner or later
Think they could borrow the D2 excuse list? The one about not posting loses, the one about fansite exploiting, the one about having to nap goon to attempt to attack BOB, what about the past 5 weeks of D2 forum/local *****s shouting "WE L33T U SUZX, WEZ PWNZ U HAXZ" excuse?
This could save them allot of time. You should really stfu with your l33t crap, takes almost all 0.0 alliances to attack BOB and no real damage withing the first 5 weeks?
No real damage? Are you a blind fool or just a fool? Yeah on the aspect of BoB space they have not lost anything yet. They hit and run and choose their fights because they can. Why can they? Because they have alliances who provide a meat shield from the attackers. LV is gone, MC is next target and I wouldnt count of FIX last a whole hell of a lot longer. After they're gone its only BoB left.
You praise BoB because they haven't lost any of their home terf but yet it's their poor allies who are taking the brunt of all the attacks so far.
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Kronarty
Amarr Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sat Thu
Originally by: Shin Ra JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
The only proven cheaters in this game are BoB.
Oh, and hi Nebulai!
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Xendie
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:20:00 -
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MC didnt want that system anyway
Originally by: "darth solo" bad men came, bad men didnt go home, bad men left containers.
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:03:00 -
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D2 members, plz stop this senseless smacking and chestbeating on the boards. Fight the fights ingame. Nothing you say or do will stay unsmacked anyways.
Gl to all parts involved. Its gonna be some interesting days ahead. No matter what ppl say about crashing nodes. This is a risk that we all face when allies bring in the numbers to make sure the advantage is on their side. We do what we have to do to secure systems in your turf, and you would do the same to us.
Regarding reinforcing nodes. I think Kieron mentioned in a thread some time during autumn 2006 that reinforcing the nodes isnt easy/possible. Dont quote me on it, but there was a lot of discussions when the LV/ragoon fights down in Scalding Pass.
Anyways, again, hope we can have some good fights ingame. Most of all have fun.
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Jelek Coro
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kronarty
Originally by: Sat Thu
Originally by: Shin Ra JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
The only proven cheaters in this game are BoB.
Oh, and hi Nebulai!
Is it a requirement to be a bitter crybaby to be in POS?
You guys really need the whaaaaaaambulance to take you away.
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Eron Lygera
Gallente Sharded Awareness
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:17:00 -
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Oh my good lord... the chestbeating in here is deafening.
GJ on putting that thing in reinforced, but try not to act like you just won the whole war.
Keep us up to date here on the forums though, we have a right to know!
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 14/03/2007 09:06:24 A word of advise to MC.
When you indeed need to protect you capital ship yards. and you are heavily outnumbered I have some advise for you. ( Especially when you keep them in an dead end system. )
1. Contact CCP and Ask for the JITA node before the POS get out of reinforced. 2. Keep your Capital Ships a couple of jumps away from the attacked system and not in the system which you are going to protect! As you will not be able to use them when you do..
(If you get any support from a titan try to find out if you can fire the doomsday every time the node has crashed. )
Do not expect any help of CCP they are not an fair and honest entity, They do not want to know what really happened and even if they do know. They will not help/reimburse any thing, most important! there will be no server logs . ( USE THIS! ) What will happen is the following. ( Learn from our mistakes! ) I will explain what happend to LV when there titan POS got atacked.
As you can see in my movie jv1defend force
You will need fraps codec to watch this as its raw http://www.fraps.com/download.php
JV1
We had over 450 pilots in local divided over 50 capital ships and support. As you can see we had a massively defended dead end system gate ready for the battle.
There where around 500 NME pilots logged of in the system. Then All NME pilots logged on at once which resulted in a node crash.
Everyone crashed.
Now the NME fly in groups of around 100. divided in the systems before the main system. They now will jump in groups of 100 and continuously crash the nodes.
PLEASE BE AWARE!
Jumping in pilots have priority over Pilots in the system. Now they keep jumping in 100 people gangs in to the system.
Defending pilots still unable to log in..
( CCP fails miserably to do any and had deliberately crashed the node several times. then and goes back to bed )
This keeps going on for around 6 node crashed.
Defending pilots scattered all over the system trying to log back in and nme fleet busted gate only by jumping in..
Now they only need one pilot with cyno to get to the POS.
Open cyno and NME cap fleet jump in..
Our cap fleet unable to logon. .. Titan unable to logon..
Results unabel to even DEFEND your own system.. My word of advise is ANYTHING IS alloud defending you`r assets.
There will be NO Server logs to prove anything. ANd CCP will not be able to see what happend..
USe this info to protect you systems..
If i have more updates ill EDIT this post..
Goodluck
->My Vids<- CCP= More skilz more moneh! |
Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Djerin on 14/03/2007 09:20:10 Err Garria, it's not like D2 sending a 1000 people. And MC are no noobs too. And there will be BOB involved*snip* - please don't throw around accusations of cheating. -Ivan K edit: sorry Ivan, this was meant to be ironic.. that's why the twisted smilie..
Go D2!
Originally by: Cipher7
Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead |
Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Djerin Edited by: Djerin on 14/03/2007 09:20:10 Err Garria, it's not like D2 sending a 1000 people. And MC are no noobs too. And there will be BOB involved*snip* - please don't throw around accusations of cheating. -Ivan K edit: sorry Ivan, this was meant to be ironic.. that's why the twisted smilie..
Go D2!
I know buddy we LV are experienced to but and we failed aswell. If there is a large coalition killing of there cap ship array`s they could use all the info as they can get. And dont make the same mistakes we made ->My Vids<- CCP= More skilz more moneh! |
HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard D2 for your crimes against neutral entities in eve, I sentence you to extreme e-dishonour! My lawyers will contact you and we can have a chit chat, couple of drinks and ofc discuss what kind of bribery you can bring to the table.
Save the neutrals!
Nice sig.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:45:00 -
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Thread cleaned - please don't troll, and accusations of cheating, even in jest, should be avoided. If you have comments on moderation; email us at [email protected]
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Helina Malinos
Caldari Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Callthetruth quite possible if the d2 fleet that was around pnq earlier has shifted south. Dont MC have multiple shipyards tho simply to spread the risk of being takne out in one engagement
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
LMAO, threats coming from bum eden where allways weak source but not they come from goonified Bum Eden there just funny.
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Shinoobie
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya What the North is attacking again when no one is home
Yeah we learnt that off of someone.
Bo(ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ - Please choose a letter) did it to us once, when we were fighting ASCN.
It's called a "Roadtrip" apparently. ______________________________________________
*snip* I just cut off your testies! -Eldo |
Jotan Veer
Wings of Turul Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:58:00 -
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Someone please please link in the old D2 'Letz build more shipyaaards' sig!
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Morpheus Dreadnor
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:18:00 -
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*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected]) Auction caracter.
Signature image removed - That's just wrong... mkay? - Immy
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Valkazm
Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:20:00 -
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*snip* - removed deleted post. -Ivan K
quick someone buy his character and edit this post
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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:56:00 -
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Well based on JV references here is the Coallition plan:
3 blobtastic support fleets - 1 Capital fleet
1 support fleet (purely goons) jumps through and slaps the node across the face. Devs have made it 1 node per system in constellation so the node holds. All goons die.
2 support fleet (goons and others) jump through crash the node. Everybody in target system spends the rest of the night/day trying to og back in without much success.
3 support fleet (BS heavy) goes through what is now virtually an empty system with trickle of people trying to log back on. They warp to POS open Cyno bring the capital fleet in... win! Time for the epic threads...
I am curious what Sleene will try about this other than slapping hem hard across the face in RL Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
Count Rayken
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:32:00 -
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Wait...huh? But the Axis Propoganda machine told me we were staying up north mining
Or maybe they were the ones that said we were no big deal in the south and tried to brush us off like we were nothing? ah i think thats the one...
70 cap ships, 2 downed cap ship yards. No resistance.
Thx for those involved.
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Fedaykinn
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Fedaykinn on 14/03/2007 11:57:20 The coalition have one big advantage in this. They have multiple timezones if all the alliances get involved. Were talkin russians, americans, europeans they can literally cover the whole battle around the clock. However BOB and LV (who im sure will help out aswell) are both european. They will all be going to work and whatever else. The Russians then the Europeans can overlap into the amercians in the coalition. ETC etc
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Noel Edmonds
Deal or No Deal
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykinn The coalition have one big advantage in this. They ahve multiple timezones if all the alliances get involved. Were talkin russians, americans, europeans they can literally cover the whole battle around the clock. However BOB and LV (who im sure will help out aswell) are both european. They will all be going to work and what not and cant stay on for long so then the americans can take over. Once there peak time dies the russians can take over. Then the europeans - amercians - russians again. The odds are agaisnt them.
WTS - Brain.
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Count Rayken
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Noel Edmonds
Originally by: Fedaykinn The coalition have one big advantage in this. They ahve multiple timezones if all the alliances get involved. Were talkin russians, americans, europeans they can literally cover the whole battle around the clock. However BOB and LV (who im sure will help out aswell) are both european. They will all be going to work and what not and cant stay on for long so then the americans can take over. Once there peak time dies the russians can take over. Then the europeans - amercians - russians again. The odds are agaisnt them.
WTS - Brain.
LOL.
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