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RaBbLe66
Amarr
Amarr Dissidents Club
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Posted - 2007.03.14 00:49:00 -
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Nasty Rumour that MC shipyards are being hammered by a large quantity of D2 Cap ships..
anyone know any facts?
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.03.14 00:51:00 -
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quite possible if the d2 fleet that was around pnq earlier has shifted south. Dont MC have multiple shipyards tho simply to spread the risk of being takne out in one engagement
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 00:52:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 14/03/2007 00:49:37
 Originally by: RaBbLe66
Nasty Rumour that MC shipyards are being hammered by a large quantity of D2 Cap ships..
anyone know any facts?
It's not true, we never touched them, we are all dead.
It was only 2 cap yards, and 2 regular
...only 2 capital yards 
damm it, alt monster made me second 
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 00:52:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Callthetruth
quite possible if the d2 fleet that was around pnq earlier has shifted south. Dont MC have multiple shipyards tho simply to spread the risk of being takne out in one engagement
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
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Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 00:55:00 -
[5]
I wish I was sexy. If I was sexy more people would keep me in the loop about these things. God I wish I was sexy.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 00:58:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 14/03/2007 00:57:55
 Originally by: Shin Ra
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
Well considering the speed that we did it, quite a few may be needed.
Obviously that number is classified 
Edit, and if you were ever in doubt about CallforTruths sources...there is something in his post that gives away the fact he is not involved. We did not move south after PNQ. That was what is known in the trade, as a diversion
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AngryCanuk
TribalWar Inc
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.14 00:59:00 -
[7]
interesting
Honor does not have to be defended. - Robert J. Sawyer
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Roller
Syn-Packet Security
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:01:00 -
[8]
You mean MC's super safe club house isn't actually super safe?
Next I will learn down is up and up is down.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:01:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Shin Ra
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
Well considering the speed that we did it, quite a few may be needed.
Obviously that number is classified
See you on 2moro evening :D
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Shinoobie
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:08:00 -
[10]
It was so secret and fast, that I was there and I didn't even know it!
Actually, did this happen?
I think this is just pure rumours.
/me throws the X-Instict down the sink.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:08:00 -
[11]
is this code for a coalation attack on MCs capital shipyards ? or just some propaganda to get MC forces into that area at some point in the next 24 hours.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:11:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Callthetruth
is this code for a coalation attack on MCs capital shipyards ? or just some propaganda to get MC forces into that area at some point in the next 24 hours.
Why don't you fly there and find out?
EVE War I - Quick Overview
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KIATolon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:12:00 -
[13]
I am sure seleene will make a thirty page post about it in the near future.
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:15:00 -
[14]
Originally by: KIATolon
I am sure seleene will make a thirty page post about it in the near future.
hahaha
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:19:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
. . .And we get to the point where everyone has to wonder if words like "playing", "game" and "fun" are worth using. . .
JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
What's going to be the point of this and who's going to have fun?
Goons don't take the game seriously yet they'll stare at a log in screen all night for the sake of making someone who is arbitrarily their enemy in this "internet spaceship game" unhappy?
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:22:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
. . .And we get to the point where everyone has to wonder if words like "playing", "game" and "fun" are worth using. . .
JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
What's going to be the point of this and who's going to have fun?
Goons don't take the game seriously yet they'll stare at a log in screen all night for the sake of making someone who is arbitrarily their enemy in this "internet spaceship game" unhappy?
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
And your allied with the people that started the tactic, which as you put it the monumental lag fest 
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:24:00 -
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JV1V wasn't an accomplishment in combat skill (since there was so little combat), but it was special because very rarely do so many people work together like that. Since it looks like this will include the North and South vs. Bob and MC (and maybe LV will join in for some payback), it will be a crashfest of epic proportions, but it'll be an accomplishment in people working towards a common goal on the same battlefield.
I have a feeling just the capital ships on both sides combined will be able to crash the node.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:24:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
...Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
Because you want Shinoobie's X-Instinct. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it 
EVE War I - Quick Overview
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Torshin
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:31:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Callthetruth
quite possible if the d2 fleet that was around pnq earlier has shifted south. Dont MC have multiple shipyards tho simply to spread the risk of being takne out in one engagement
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
were you even a goon for JV1V? I can't remember how many weeks ago yall jumped on the bandwagon
Offical Tardz Poo-litical Anal-yst
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. |
Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:33:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
. . .And we get to the point where everyone has to wonder if words like "playing", "game" and "fun" are worth using. . .
JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
What's going to be the point of this and who's going to have fun?
Goons don't take the game seriously yet they'll stare at a log in screen all night for the sake of making someone who is arbitrarily their enemy in this "internet spaceship game" unhappy?
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
Do you remember or have you heard how Trust shipyards went down a while back?
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Brunswick2
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:34:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Zhaine
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JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
If JV1V wasn't a big achievement, than killing a logged of titan was even less of a big deal.
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Harum Skarum
Minmatar
Committee for Subversive Decoration
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:34:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
. . .And we get to the point where everyone has to wonder if words like "playing", "game" and "fun" are worth using. . .
JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
What's going to be the point of this and who's going to have fun?
Goons don't take the game seriously yet they'll stare at a log in screen all night for the sake of making someone who is arbitrarily their enemy in this "internet spaceship game" unhappy?
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
Remember EC-?
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Attak
Trioptimum
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:35:00 -
[23]
Awaiting MC response that the attack was unwarrented and that they have been unfairly dragged into this war.
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:38:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
You mean your going to node crash even harder? OMG, noes! 
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:39:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Hehulk
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
You mean your going to node crash even harder? OMG, noes!
Its whjat we do best
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Rhodesia
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:47:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Attak
Awaiting MC response that the attack was unwarrented and that they have been unfairly dragged into this war.
B***S*** .....MC ofically war deced d2 :) so they have joined the party!
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marcouk2
Gallente
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:52:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Attak
Awaiting MC response that the attack was unwarrented and that they have been unfairly dragged into this war.
you're a bit late there.
MC Announcment
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Attak
Trioptimum
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:55:00 -
[28]
Originally by: marcouk2
Originally by: Attak
Awaiting MC response that the attack was unwarrented and that they have been unfairly dragged into this war.
you're a bit late there.
MC Announcment
For all intents and purposes I would have been late two months ago, too.
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Master Spoonman
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:55:00 -
[29]
What? Attack? I know nothing of this? :tinfoil:
*Goes back to mining veld in Branch*
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V0rador
Amarr
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:58:00 -
[30]
Bob and friends few weeks ago : we'll crush eve all of you !!!
Now : bouhhh goon crash node bandwagon and *****train coming 
Get ready for the excuses , make a list etc you will need it sooner or later
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.14 01:59:00 -
[31]
What the North is attacking again when no one is home
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PDoggy
Minmatar
Valid Character Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.14 02:00:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Zhaine
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
Leave then, no one's going to miss your garbage posts anyway.
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Wantakoner
Wantakoner Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.14 02:06:00 -
[33]
Originally by: V0rador
Bob and friends few weeks ago : we'll crush eve all of you !!!
Now : bouhhh goon crash node bandwagon and *****train coming
Get ready for the excuses , make a list etc you will need it sooner or later
Think they could borrow the D2 excuse list? The one about not posting loses, the one about fansite exploiting, the one about having to nap goon to attempt to attack BOB, what about the past 5 weeks of D2 forum/local *****s shouting "WE L33T U SUZX, WEZ PWNZ U HAXZ" excuse?
This could save them allot of time. You should really stfu with your l33t crap, takes almost all 0.0 alliances to attack BOB and no real damage withing the first 5 weeks?
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Shevarash
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 02:14:00 -
[34]
BOB will have a lot of pleasure with goon rapetrain they learn a lot about pleasure from me don't worry
like vor says : Get ready for the excuses , make a list etc you will need it sooner or later
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V0rador
Amarr
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 02:14:00 -
[35]
Edited by: V0rador on 14/03/2007 02:12:01
Originally by: Wantakoner
Think they could borrow the D2 excuse list? The one about not posting loses, the one about fansite exploiting, the one about having to nap goon to attempt to attack BOB, what about the past 5 weeks of D2 forum/local *****s shouting "WE L33T U SUZX, WEZ PWNZ U HAXZ" excuse?
This could save them allot of time. You should really stfu with your l33t crap, takes almost all 0.0 alliances to attack BOB and no real damage withing the first 5 weeks?
- fansite exploiting : there is enough accusation toward bob too.
- nap goon : the +5/nap and friend list of bob have almost the same size.
- attack bob : euhh almost no one have attack bob yet it havent start yet 
- dŠ forum ***** : ahhh sure i dont need to take my alt for speak on the forum mouhahaha. Molix will not shout at me
- "WE L33T U SUZX, WEZ PWNZ U HAXZ" excuse : i'll point finger at LV talking about Goon have ccp in their pocket coz they bring money to ccp , RA are all ebay seller etc.
Hurry build more titans , fast fast !!
Cya soon on the battlefield with your main.
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente
In Excess Enterprises
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 02:20:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Wantakoner
Originally by: V0rador
Bob and friends few weeks ago : we'll crush eve all of you !!!
Now : bouhhh goon crash node bandwagon and *****train coming
Get ready for the excuses , make a list etc you will need it sooner or later
Think they could borrow the D2 excuse list? The one about not posting loses, the one about fansite exploiting, the one about having to nap goon to attempt to attack BOB, what about the past 5 weeks of D2 forum/local *****s shouting "WE L33T U SUZX, WEZ PWNZ U HAXZ" excuse?
This could save them allot of time. You should really stfu with your l33t crap, takes almost all 0.0 alliances to attack BOB and no real damage withing the first 5 weeks?
Dear BoB alt:
It's been fun making you spend all that stront. And if the destruction of one of your allies, and the beseiging of number two of your precious allies, isn't considerable progress, you need a serious reality check.
Not to mention all the fun we've had interfering with one of your macro-isk farmer residents. I gotta admit it's amusing to see the guy come in local after we've blown a couple of his battleships with all the rest of his isk farming characters and go 'Hello, come PVP!' (His only apparent english btw). Just remember every time he brings every character he has to one place, he's not off earning you more isk. You also might explain to him that playing dock, undock, isn't pvp, but that's okay he's amusing nonetheless.
See you in Delve soon.
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 02:24:00 -
[37]
D2 for your crimes against neutral entities in eve, I sentence you to extreme e-dishonour! My lawyers will contact you and we can have a chit chat, couple of drinks and ofc discuss what kind of bribery you can bring to the table.
Save the neutrals!
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hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.14 02:37:00 -
[38]
Ooops! Looks like the 'vacation' could be cut short
hirr Morsus Mihi |
Evenfall Phoenix
The Arrow Project
The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:04:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Brunswick2
Originally by: Zhaine
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JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
If JV1V wasn't a big achievement, than killing a logged of titan was even less of a big deal.
This is the winner.
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LTD THOR
Caille Insurance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:17:00 -
[40]
no, he wins!:
Originally by: Kyguard
D2 for your crimes against neutral entities in eve, I sentence you to extreme e-dishonour! My lawyers will contact you and we can have a chit chat, couple of drinks and ofc discuss what kind of bribery you can bring to the table.
Save the neutrals!
great..
My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;) |
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Kirex
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:18:00 -
[41]
I like the "bob wasn't home to defend" excuse. Are they admitting they bit off more than they can chew?
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Anaximander Monk
Mandala Group
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:21:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Kirex
I like the "bob wasn't home to defend" excuse. Are they admitting they bit off more than they can chew?
Yeah, its a great compliment to the "all of bob are in your space and you're on the defensive loosing ships" remark.
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arjun
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:22:00 -
[43]
lets not share out the bear hid while the bear is still dancing around.
those yards need to go. lets all work to do the job and then celebrate. make sure all involved have the right standings to avoid accidents and so on. timeframe is thursday evening til friday after dt. dont forgettwe will face 3 titans and probably a hundred other capitals.
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Slayton Ford
Caldari
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:33:00 -
[44]
Maybe CCP will realize tonight that they need to re-dedicate some server power to the cap yards systems. That way instead of being a extreme cluster f***, it will only be a major cluster f***.
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Kadarin
Wolfenrecon
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:38:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Slayton Ford
Maybe CCP will realize tonight that they need to re-dedicate some server power to the cap yards systems. That way instead of being a extreme cluster f***, it will only be a major cluster f***.
This quote says it all. GL to D2 and friends! 
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Topaz Skydiver
Minmatar
Narrative Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:42:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Slayton Ford
Maybe CCP will realize tonight that they need to re-dedicate some server power to the cap yards systems. That way instead of being a extreme cluster f***, it will only be a major cluster f***.
Hope that 5000 people jump into that system and the node stays down for the next 30 days tbh.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:50:00 -
[47]
heh...Half of eve is going to be in MC's backyard.
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:54:00 -
[48]
Hopefully CCP will but each system in that constellation it's own node, but I'm not sure if that will even help much. Can't hurt though.
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Adam Weishaupt
Minmatar
Illumination Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:57:00 -
[49]
Looks to be an epic fight brewing. 
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Liquid Vision
Caldari
Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:59:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out, sucka.
Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:01:00 -
[51]
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
heh...Half of eve is going to be in BOB's backyard.
fixed
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Sacura G
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:11:00 -
[52]
AAA and RA just logoffed near 45 dreads in PB!
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Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:18:00 -
[53]
I'd ask someone to fraps it but I will already get to watch "Entering game as _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _" for as long as I can stand it. No point in watching someone else try and connect for a few hours.
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Sokhar
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:23:00 -
[54]
WE, WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:29:00 -
[55]
I wonder if D2 has any intel on what's being built there? Unless it's a long term project I would think MC would wait on building anything valuable while the war is raging. I have heard MC pilots claiming they're empty, and that does make sense.
Well, either way I'm sure there will be more than enough pilots on both sides.
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Vyndicator
Amarr
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:42:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
heh...Half of eve is going to be in BOB's backyard.
fixed
Congratulations, you're whitty remark has earned you a gold star!
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mamolian
Vortex.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:44:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Sokhar
WE, WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
Sokhar get in the car! 
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ArcticFox
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.14 04:47:00 -
[58]
Edited by: ArcticFox on 14/03/2007 04:45:03
Edited by: ArcticFox on 14/03/2007 04:43:56
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
. . .And we get to the point where everyone has to wonder if words like "playing", "game" and "fun" are worth using. . .
JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
What's going to be the point of this and who's going to have fun?
Goons don't take the game seriously yet they'll stare at a log in screen all night for the sake of making someone who is arbitrarily their enemy in this "internet spaceship game" unhappy?
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
Do you remember or have you heard how Trust shipyards went down a while back?
I remember the node not crashing. :P (Yes, I was there.)
In any case, this "he did" "she did" stuff is nonsense. There is no alliance that's to blame for the way fighting over major capital shipyards works. Even if ASCN/BoB/[5] had never assaulted EC- the same thing would have happened in JV1V. CCP has designed mechanics that make it so the only way to effectively assualt or defend is to use ridiculous numbers that happen to crash things. If anyone is to blame for this, it's CCP's crappy design.
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Sat Thu
Heavy Star Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:08:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:14:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Xeliya
What the North is attacking again when no one is home
Like we haven't been down here for over a month now.
I'm not about to leave my house if someone's sitting in the driveway waiting to break in.
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Valkazm
Amarr
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:16:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Sokhar
WE, WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
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batloard
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:17:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Sacura G
AAA and RA just logoffed near 45 dreads in PB!
proof or stfu!!!
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:27:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Darpz on 14/03/2007 05:23:29
Originally by: Sat Thu
and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
See the future you can. Powerful you must be
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:44:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
heh...Half of eve is going to be in BOB's backyard.
fixed
I still give MC the benefit of the doubt in this matter tbh.
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Bienurdau Hywoaf
Minmatar
Matari Holo News Network
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Posted - 2007.03.14 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sat Thu
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
They did nothing all the times BoB used the tactic themselves. What's good for the gander is good for the goose so to speak.
At the same time perhaps some dev will take note of this and begin reinforcing the nodes of that area. Jita like nodes for it and all the systems around it. Probably won't stop a crash but might mitigate it.
As far as the MC shipyards. They've lost only a few capital ships so far, but it makes sense they would be producing ships for continuing replacements. Even if they aren't using them now, they would eventually as attrition takes place have to use them. Therefore strategically speaking removing that capability is in the coalitions best interest.
War is about reducing the opponents ability to wage war, as much as it is about taking territory. Thus in EVE POSs that produce ships, ammo, drones, modules, etc would be strategically prime targets, especially in 0.0 where there are fewer NPC stations.
MC is also the next logical choice for attack. Taking them down would allow more access directly to BoB, giving more options to the coalition as to where to hit BoB reducing the impact tactically of BoB's titans since the more border is exposed the less you can predict where the enemy will hit you.
Folks haven't realized that the Northern attack was only a feint. It was never meant to take territory initially only to tie up BoB and its other allies resources allowing time for Red Alliance, GoonSwarm, SMASH, etc to destroy LV's hold on territory, while KOS and IAC pressed the attack against ISS removing them.
If I was the commanding defense fleet commander, I'd be looking at a more dynamic defense plan than was used in LV1V, without one the MC cap shipyards will fall as well.
(This is just my strategic and tactical observations, something I actually am pretty good at. Strategy games are among my favorites and EVE is a large Strategy game in many ways, in time as I learn more about ships and modules etc I might could actually figure out a defense against such an attack.)
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TMF
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:03:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Xeliya
What the North is attacking again when no one is home
You should pay atention on EVE history class...
Hint: It has something with ASCN and GIRON.
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OozoO
Caldari
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:21:00 -
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guys, we are fighting Bo .. B, the node will not crash ....
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Chuck Dawg
Artic Blue
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:37:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Brunswick2
Originally by: Zhaine
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JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
If JV1V wasn't a big achievement, than killing a logged of titan was even less of a big deal.
Damn it ! I wish I would have thought of that comment first! People like to downplay the victories of their enemy and praise their own. Odd how that works.
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Ikarushka
Gallente
A.O.U. Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:39:00 -
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and if the whole blobing thing wouldn't will not owrk out I forsee lots of excuses about BoB meta gaming etc, ain't both sides the same?) any way, gl guys and have fun
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Chuck Dawg
Artic Blue
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 06:43:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Wantakoner
Originally by: V0rador
Bob and friends few weeks ago : we'll crush eve all of you !!!
Now : bouhhh goon crash node bandwagon and *****train coming
Get ready for the excuses , make a list etc you will need it sooner or later
Think they could borrow the D2 excuse list? The one about not posting loses, the one about fansite exploiting, the one about having to nap goon to attempt to attack BOB, what about the past 5 weeks of D2 forum/local *****s shouting "WE L33T U SUZX, WEZ PWNZ U HAXZ" excuse?
This could save them allot of time. You should really stfu with your l33t crap, takes almost all 0.0 alliances to attack BOB and no real damage withing the first 5 weeks?
No real damage? Are you a blind fool or just a fool? Yeah on the aspect of BoB space they have not lost anything yet. They hit and run and choose their fights because they can. Why can they? Because they have alliances who provide a meat shield from the attackers. LV is gone, MC is next target and I wouldnt count of FIX last a whole hell of a lot longer. After they're gone its only BoB left.
You praise BoB because they haven't lost any of their home terf but yet it's their poor allies who are taking the brunt of all the attacks so far.
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Kronarty
Amarr
Oberon Incorporated
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:17:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Sat Thu
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
The only proven cheaters in this game are BoB.
Oh, and hi Nebulai!
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Xendie
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:20:00 -
[72]
MC didnt want that system anyway
Originally by: "darth solo"
bad men came, bad men didnt go home, bad men left containers.
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:03:00 -
[73]
D2 members, plz stop this senseless smacking and chestbeating on the boards. Fight the fights ingame.
Nothing you say or do will stay unsmacked anyways.
Gl to all parts involved. Its gonna be some interesting days ahead. No matter what ppl say about crashing nodes. This is a risk that we all face when allies bring in the numbers to make sure the advantage is on their side. We do what we have to do to secure systems in your turf, and you would do the same to us.
Regarding reinforcing nodes. I think Kieron mentioned in a thread some time during autumn 2006 that reinforcing the nodes isnt easy/possible. Dont quote me on it, but there was a lot of discussions when the LV/ragoon fights down in Scalding Pass.
Anyways, again, hope we can have some good fights ingame. Most of all have fun.
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Jelek Coro
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:12:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Kronarty
Originally by: Sat Thu
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
The only proven cheaters in this game are BoB.
Oh, and hi Nebulai!
Is it a requirement to be a bitter crybaby to be in POS?
You guys really need the whaaaaaaambulance to take you away.
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Eron Lygera
Gallente
Sharded Awareness
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:17:00 -
[75]
Oh my good lord... the chestbeating in here is deafening.
GJ on putting that thing in reinforced, but try not to act like you just won the whole war.
Keep us up to date here on the forums though, we have a right to know! 
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Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:58:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Garia666 on 14/03/2007 09:06:24
A word of advise to MC.
When you indeed need to protect you capital ship yards.
and you are heavily outnumbered I have some advise for you.
( Especially when you keep them in an dead end system. )
1. Contact CCP and Ask for the JITA node before the POS get out of reinforced.
2. Keep your Capital Ships a couple of jumps away from the attacked system and not in the system which you are going to protect! As you will not be able to use them when you do..
(If you get any support from a titan try to find out if you can fire the doomsday every time the node has crashed. )
Do not expect any help of CCP they are not an fair and honest entity, They do not want to know what really happened and even if they do know. They will not help/reimburse any thing, most important! there will be no server logs . ( USE THIS! )
What will happen is the following. ( Learn from our mistakes! )
I will explain what happend to LV when there titan POS got atacked.
As you can see in my movie jv1defend force
You will need fraps codec to watch this as its raw
http://www.fraps.com/download.php
JV1
We had over 450 pilots in local divided over 50 capital ships and support.
As you can see we had a massively defended dead end system gate ready for the battle.
There where around 500 NME pilots logged of in the system.
Then All NME pilots logged on at once which resulted in a node crash.
Everyone crashed.
Now the NME fly in groups of around 100. divided in the systems before the main system.
They now will jump in groups of 100 and continuously crash the nodes.
PLEASE BE AWARE!
Jumping in pilots have priority over Pilots in the system.
Now they keep jumping in 100 people gangs in to the system.
Defending pilots still unable to log in..
( CCP fails miserably to do any and had deliberately crashed the node several times. then and goes back to bed )
This keeps going on for around 6 node crashed.
Defending pilots scattered all over the system trying to log back in and nme fleet busted gate only by jumping in..
Now they only need one pilot with cyno to get to the POS.
Open cyno and NME cap fleet jump in..
Our cap fleet unable to logon. .. Titan unable to logon..
Results unabel to even DEFEND your own system..
My word of advise is ANYTHING IS alloud defending you`r assets.
There will be NO Server logs to prove anything.
ANd CCP will not be able to see what happend..
USe this info to protect you systems..
If i have more updates ill EDIT this post..
Goodluck
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:20:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Djerin on 14/03/2007 09:20:10
Err Garria, it's not like D2 sending a 1000 people. And MC are no noobs too. And there will be BOB involved*snip* - please don't throw around accusations of cheating. -Ivan K
edit: sorry Ivan, this was meant to be ironic.. that's why the twisted smilie..
Go D2!
Originally by: Cipher7
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Garia666
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:30:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Djerin
Edited by: Djerin on 14/03/2007 09:20:10
Err Garria, it's not like D2 sending a 1000 people. And MC are no noobs too. And there will be BOB involved*snip* - please don't throw around accusations of cheating. -Ivan K
edit: sorry Ivan, this was meant to be ironic.. that's why the twisted smilie..
Go D2!
I know buddy we LV are experienced to but and we failed aswell.
If there is a large coalition killing of there cap ship array`s they could use all the info as they can get.
And dont make the same mistakes we made
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:34:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Kyguard
D2 for your crimes against neutral entities in eve, I sentence you to extreme e-dishonour! My lawyers will contact you and we can have a chit chat, couple of drinks and ofc discuss what kind of bribery you can bring to the table.
Save the neutrals!
Nice sig.
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Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:45:00 -
[80]
Thread cleaned - please don't troll, and accusations of cheating, even in jest, should be avoided. If you have comments on moderation; email us at [email protected]
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Helina Malinos
Caldari
Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:45:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Callthetruth
quite possible if the d2 fleet that was around pnq earlier has shifted south. Dont MC have multiple shipyards tho simply to spread the risk of being takne out in one engagement
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
LMAO, threats coming from bum eden where allways weak source but not they come from goonified Bum Eden there just funny.
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E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:57:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Xeliya
What the North is attacking again when no one is home
Yeah we learnt that off of someone.
Bo(ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ - Please choose a letter) did it to us once, when we were fighting ASCN.
It's called a "Roadtrip" apparently.
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Jotan Veer
Wings of Turul
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:58:00 -
[83]
Someone please please link in the old D2 'Letz build more shipyaaards' sig!
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Morpheus Dreadnor
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:18:00 -
[84]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected])
Auction caracter.
Signature image removed - That's just wrong... mkay? - Immy
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Valkazm
Amarr
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:20:00 -
[85]
*snip* - removed deleted post. -Ivan K
quick someone buy his character and edit this post
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:56:00 -
[86]
Well based on JV references here is the Coallition plan:
3 blobtastic support fleets - 1 Capital fleet
1 support fleet (purely goons) jumps through and slaps the node across the face. Devs have made it 1 node per system in constellation so the node holds. All goons die.
2 support fleet (goons and others) jump through crash the node. Everybody in target system spends the rest of the night/day trying to og back in without much success.
3 support fleet (BS heavy) goes through what is now virtually an empty system with trickle of people trying to log back on. They warp to POS open Cyno bring the capital fleet in... win! Time for the epic threads...
I am curious what Sleene will try about this other than slapping hem hard across the face in RL
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Count Rayken
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:32:00 -
[87]
Wait...huh? But the Axis Propoganda machine told me we were staying up north mining
Or maybe they were the ones that said we were no big deal in the south and tried to brush us off like we were nothing? ah i think thats the one...
70 cap ships, 2 downed cap ship yards. No resistance.
Thx for those involved.
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Fedaykinn
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:54:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Fedaykinn on 14/03/2007 11:57:20
The coalition have one big advantage in this. They have multiple timezones if all the alliances get involved. Were talkin russians, americans, europeans they can literally cover the whole battle around the clock. However BOB and LV (who im sure will help out aswell) are both european. They will all be going to work and whatever else. The Russians then the Europeans can overlap into the amercians in the coalition. ETC etc
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Noel Edmonds
Deal or No Deal
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:56:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Fedaykinn
The coalition have one big advantage in this. They ahve multiple timezones if all the alliances get involved. Were talkin russians, americans, europeans they can literally cover the whole battle around the clock. However BOB and LV (who im sure will help out aswell) are both european. They will all be going to work and what not and cant stay on for long so then the americans can take over. Once there peak time dies the russians can take over. Then the europeans - amercians - russians again. The odds are agaisnt them.
WTS - Brain.
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Count Rayken
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:58:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Noel Edmonds
Originally by: Fedaykinn
The coalition have one big advantage in this. They ahve multiple timezones if all the alliances get involved. Were talkin russians, americans, europeans they can literally cover the whole battle around the clock. However BOB and LV (who im sure will help out aswell) are both european. They will all be going to work and what not and cant stay on for long so then the americans can take over. Once there peak time dies the russians can take over. Then the europeans - amercians - russians again. The odds are agaisnt them.
WTS - Brain.
LOL.
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Garia666
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:02:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Smagd
Originally by: Crellion
Well based on JV references here is the Coallition plan:
3 blobtastic support fleets - 1 Capital fleet
1 support fleet (purely goons) jumps through and slaps the node across the face. Devs have made it 1 node per system in constellation so the node holds. All goons die.
2 support fleet (goons and others) jump through crash the node. Everybody in target system spends the rest of the night/day trying to og back in without much success.
3 support fleet (BS heavy) goes through what is now virtually an empty system with trickle of people trying to log back on. They warp to POS open Cyno bring the capital fleet in... win! Time for the epic threads...
I am curious what Sleene will try about this other than slapping hem hard across the face in RL
To be honest, if you're defending a dead-end system the strategy is so obvious I'm sure every capable FC has already figured it:
Defend the only access system. Blob it down.
Except, funnily enough, Titans now bring the means to bypass that once a single Cyno ship makes it to the dead-end system.
Fun times ahead. Poor hamsters.
you clearly didnt readed my post
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JabJabVVV
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:13:00 -
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Can anyone confirm if the MC shipyards actually were attacked or not? As on my map it shows very few people active in the MC constellation and only 2 ship kills in the last 24 hours; this seems very quiet for a system that only a few hours earlier was supposedly assaulted by a large capital fleet.
From the rather limited information I can gather (basically looking at the, often useless, map) it seems all quiet.. or have I got something wrong?
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Raem Civrie
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:17:00 -
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Everyone should stop crying about the other blobbing.
It's not a choice. It's not something someone started. I've seen people accuse BoB of "starting the blobtrain". This is wrong. Blobs existed as far back as the TTi war (first Venal war), where TTi and allies repeatedly grouped up in blobs reaching 50 people (a whole lot back then. EVE has sturdier servers these days, as well as alot more people).
This has already been discussed to death. Either you take as many people as will come, or you don't go. Splitting up your troops to "reduce lag" is a recipe for disaster, since you are only weakening your forces and making them more susceptible to enemy raids during transit.
It's not up to individual FC's to reduce lag by not allowing people to join their fleets. It's up to CCP to fix this problem, either with beefier hardware, and/or the split intermediary goals scheme they are currently planning.
Becrying the other side for blobbing is so monumentally stupid that the offenders in this should, by all rights, be hiding in shame right now.
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Zillazuki
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:17:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Zillazuki on 14/03/2007 12:13:27
Originally by: Noel Edmonds
Originally by: Fedaykinn
The coalition have one big advantage in this. They ahve multiple timezones if all the alliances get involved. Were talkin russians, americans, europeans they can literally cover the whole battle around the clock. However BOB and LV (who im sure will help out aswell) are both european. They will all be going to work and what not and cant stay on for long so then the americans can take over. Once there peak time dies the russians can take over. Then the europeans - amercians - russians again. The odds are agaisnt them.
WTS - Brain.
I was just thinking "Who's Brian" ...then I realised I am dyslexic.
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jatkot
Caldari
S-44
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:30:00 -
[95]
If one can watch the big picture its not much fact of anyone hammering MC atm. They are up in MOEE and gatecamping. Couse they dont much else todo. I dont think they go mining when they are boored.
Or if BoB have directed them to MOEE to try and hurt the pipe. Wich they have made it more interesting.
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Dawn Princess
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:48:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Garia666
advise on how to deal with deliberate node crashes
Where were you with all this great advice when BoB was doing this to ASCN on a regular basis? Oh yeah....
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Death by Drones
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:48:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Sat Thu
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
SO your plan is to intentionally break the EULA again, crash the node and then expect CCP to do nothing because they'll **** off several thousand cheaters if they enforce their rules.
*snip* please don't troll, and don't throw around allegations about cheating. -Ivan K
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:58:00 -
[98]
I'll state it again for clarity - no accusations about past cheating; a thread like this is not the place to do it, and it is considered trolling and will be dealt with as such. If you suspect cheating, petition it.
Should anyone have issues with our moderation, I direct you to [email protected] for feedback or comments.
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Rhodesia
Caldari
Hegemonic Core
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:59:00 -
[99]
*snip* - don't discuss moderation on the forums, email us at [email protected]. - for futher information on the rules of CAOD, see this. -Ivan K
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Denrace
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:06:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Hehulk
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
You mean your going to node crash even harder? OMG, noes!
To be very honest, if they sent so many freakin' ships that the node crashed, doesnt it strike you that if the node had held, they would have completely overwhelmed anything they were after regardless?
Den
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Mandala Group
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:16:00 -
[101]
I will sacrifice a virgin retreiver pilot on the morn of battle. May your shells strike true, your missiles blaze trails and your lasers laze in the sun, holding glasses with little straw hats.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:17:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Vyndicator
Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
heh...Half of eve is going to be in BOB's backyard.
fixed
Congratulations, you're whitty remark has earned you a gold star!
my first one. *hugs and kisses to you, you wild man you*
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:30:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Denrace
Originally by: Hehulk
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
You mean your going to node crash even harder? OMG, noes!
To be very honest, if they sent so many freakin' ships that the node crashed, doesnt it strike you that if the node had held, they would have completely overwhelmed anything they were after regardless?
Den
Nope -- if the node had held, LV was in an outstanding defensive position and would have inflicted HUGE losses. For purposes of crashing a node, an Ibis or a t1 frigate is as good as anything, which is why goonies use them. But for purposes of fighting, battleships are a little better.
The node crash prevented LV from defending their system.
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Aerick Dawn
Gallente
Feral Tendency
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:54:00 -
[104]
I think the pendulum is about to be firmly ensconced into Molle's ass.
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Aionios Diadochi
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
ibis or a t1 frigate
First wave was all frigates when the node didn't crash, this is what jumped in during the crash. pre-jump
Obviously your intel is both accurate and all encompassing.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:04:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
Originally by: Denrace
*snip*
To be very honest, if they sent so many freakin' ships that the node crashed, doesnt it strike you that if the node had held, they would have completely overwhelmed anything they were after regardless?
Den
Nope -- if the node had held, LV was in an outstanding defensive position and would have inflicted HUGE losses. For purposes of crashing a node, an Ibis or a t1 frigate is as good as anything, which is why goonies use them. But for purposes of fighting, battleships are a little better.
The node crash prevented LV from defending their system.
It would also have occured had we had only 300 people, so meh.
450+ drones and fighters = well over 1000 (more like 1300 or something). Had we jumped in equal numbers the node would have crashed. Not even Jita can handle 900 people on a gate all attacking each other.
The blinkered views of LV and their fanbois makes this point more and more ammusing.
It's been raised before, and it'll be raised again. Also, we had 200 in system, not 500.
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:49:00 -
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*Orree shakes his head at this thread.
As someone basically said earlier...
How about we actually kill the shipyards before we have a big party and a four-page thread about it?
This stuff is way past tiresome, guys. There's nothing wrong with being pumped about the coming battle, but these things should probably be kept internal until an objective has actually been reached, eh?
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Diamond Dog
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:55:00 -
[108]
/golfclap
same **** as 2 years ago just different names and factions..
*strolls off to catch up on all the new content.
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 17:20:00 -
[109]
wow...not a single MC thread....thought I'd find one by page 4...btw...well said...gangs will grow as CCP upgrades. Better they make the nodes....the bigger fleets will form...it's a never ending growing process....
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Metacannibal
Gekidoku
Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.14 17:41:00 -
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d2 will retreat from mc space, i heard that in the bobgarden.
also, bob has a solid control over feythabolis and tenerifis and is unchallenged and only take minor losses.
we have already arranged various safe freighter evacuation trips with dianabolic for a nominal fee to safely retreat to empire.
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Darkstar BP
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 18:29:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Le Cardinal
D2 members, plz stop this senseless smacking and chestbeating on the boards. Fight the fights ingame.
Nothing you say or do will stay unsmacked anyways.
Your team isn't smacking. A little chestbeating is well deserved in this instance. Gratz for the upset.
In unrelated news, under no circumstances would the organizer of the Guiding Hand Social Club Annual Bingo Tournament be participating in the team that has won four times in a row. |
Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.03.14 19:11:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Admiral Feelgood
[pre-jump
I need a lie down.
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Liklin
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.03.14 23:05:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Aerick Dawn
I think the pendulum is about to be firmly ensconced into Molle's ass.
One can only hope
Gotta say its funny seeing all the BoB alts frothing at the mouth and spewing all the cheating BS, lol pot calls the kettle anything as opposed to just leaving the game in shame over the crap they will and have done to destroy their enemies, talk about way way above and beyond the call of duty
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General Apocalypse
Amarr
The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.03.14 23:29:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Metacannibal
d2 will retreat from mc space, i heard that in the bobgarden.
also, bob has a solid control over feythabolis and tenerifis and is unchallenged and only take minor losses.
we have already arranged various safe freighter evacuation trips with dianabolic for a nominal fee to safely retreat to empire.
Irony 0/10 or WTB Clue 
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.14 23:37:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Shin Ra
JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
. . .And we get to the point where everyone has to wonder if words like "playing", "game" and "fun" are worth using. . .
JV1V was a big achievement? Something to be proud of? No it was a monumental lag fest, that's all.
What's going to be the point of this and who's going to have fun?
Goons don't take the game seriously yet they'll stare at a log in screen all night for the sake of making someone who is arbitrarily their enemy in this "internet spaceship game" unhappy?
Eugh. . . starting to wonder again why I'm still here.
Err...
I can't see nothing else than RAGoons are coming to a theatre near you, really nothing more. Enjoy the show, you had only the Goons.
ANYWAY : "lag is the same for everybody", "there's no server problem" and "Bob rules them all".
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SD22
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:19:00 -
[116]
Which system/constelation will all this happen?
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:26:00 -
[117]
Originally by: SD22
Which system/constelation will all this happen?
post with your main.
ISD please start the banning
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Ikvar
I WILL ROCK YOUR FACE
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:04:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Raem Civrie
Everyone should stop crying about the other blobbing.
It's not a choice. It's not something someone started.
This is the single most sensible thing ever to be posted in this forum.
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Baun
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:06:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Ikvar
Originally by: Raem Civrie
Everyone should stop crying about the other blobbing.
It's not a choice. It's not something someone started.
This is the single most sensible thing ever to be posted in this forum.
He said no Err, with his foot.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Faceless Pokemon
United Earth Directorate
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:06:00 -
[120]
230 pilots now in 1-njlk, im guessing that is where the action is to happen. Lets hope the node holds
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:19:00 -
[121]
What % of pro-MC vs anti-MC forces though.
Whoever has the jump will get to camp the gates first. And then be the first ones to have to dodge a DD :P
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:22:00 -
[122]
i doubt much will happen tbh.. the northern coalition have been unable to defend their own POS's sofar.. i cant see them actually attacking, nvm actually being successful..
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xBOS (CA)
xATUK (.5.)
xDICE (BOB) |
Znaei
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:23:00 -
[123]
Originally by: thoth foc
i doubt much will happen tbh.. the northern coalition have been unable to defend their own POS's sofar.. i cant see them actually attacking, nvm actually being successful..
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:33:00 -
[124]
BOB and friends got a 600man fleet and they say the northen coalition is a nap land
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
mega mining corporation
Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:38:00 -
[125]
Originally by: thoth foc
i doubt much will happen tbh.. the northern coalition have been unable to defend their own POS's sofar.. i cant see them actually attacking, nvm actually being successful..
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Moonlight Express
Amarr
Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:44:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
BOB and friends got a 600man fleet and they say the northen coalition is a nap land
I thought the rapetrain can not be stoped. Where's your thousands of coalition pets?
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:46:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
BOB and friends got a 600man fleet and they say the northen coalition is a nap land
Local hasn't gone above 240, so umm... what?
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OozoO
Caldari
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:48:00 -
[128]
hmm .. the node doesnt sound healthy
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:50:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
BOB and friends got a 600man fleet and they say the northen coalition is a nap land
wow if u add that 600 man gang to the 200 man gang at the cap yards that is a lot of ppl
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alpheon
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:50:00 -
[130]
its just 6pm (1800) EDT in the USA... While I have no idea whats going on, you should look at the clock and realize when people get off work ;)
if its going to happen... its going to happen over the next few hours...
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:50:00 -
[131]
We were all fired up...
Then it seems the Coalition decided to invade FIX again. 
Shipyard reparied. We're on the move. Pew pew!
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:51:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Trinity Faetal on 15/03/2007 21:47:50
mc shipyard has been killed. the coalition was outnumbers 3 to 1, mc and friend had 600 ppl and couldn't stop a 200 man coalition fleet
dont listen to seleene, hes a bob alt, not to be trusted at all
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Cloue
Gallente Stripping Agency
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:52:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
BOB and friends got a 600man fleet and they say the northen coalition is a nap land
Local hasn't gone above 240, so umm... what?
They dont all have to be in the one system durr
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Kasak Black
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:53:00 -
[134]
/me rubs crotch in anticipation..
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:53:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: thoth foc
i doubt much will happen tbh.. the northern coalition have been unable to defend their own POS's sofar.. i cant see them actually attacking, nvm actually being successful..
Yes, i love it when i'm right too
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xMenta (DSMA)
xBOS (CA)
xATUK (.5.)
xDICE (BOB) |
Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
mega mining corporation
Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:58:00 -
[136]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: thoth foc
i doubt much will happen tbh.. the northern coalition have been unable to defend their own POS's sofar.. i cant see them actually attacking, nvm actually being successful..
Yes, i love it when i'm right too
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:02:00 -
[137]
seeing those shipyards burn brought tears to my eyes
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Karma Kahn
Amarr
OLE Mining Corp
Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:06:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Karma Kahn on 15/03/2007 22:03:26
Edited by: Karma Kahn on 15/03/2007 22:02:33
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
mc shipyard has been killed. the coalition was outnumbers 3 to 1, mc and friend had 600 ppl and couldn't stop a 200 man coalition fleet[:pirate:
dont listen to seleene, hes a bob alt, not to be trusted at all
Fixed
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Awyn Lothr
United Corporations of Eve
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:12:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Karma Kahn
Edited by: Karma Kahn on 15/03/2007 22:03:26
Edited by: Karma Kahn on 15/03/2007 22:02:33
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
mc shipyard has been killed. the coalition was outnumbers 3 to 1, mc and friend had 600 ppl and couldn't stop a 200 man coalition fleet[:pirate:
dont listen to seleene, hes a bob alt, not to be trusted at all
Fixed
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:13:00 -
[140]
well crashed to DT and now i can't log in.
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:17:00 -
[141]
Seleene your countdown clock is broken.
Took me about a minute of staring at it blankly to figure out why the minutes weren't moving.
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Manfred Sideous
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:17:00 -
[142]
Cry today coulda been one heck of a fight.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:19:00 -
[143]
wait a second? you mean you actually have to come back and shoot a pos for a second time before it explodes!??! *******s!
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:19:00 -
[144]
Thats what you get for putting BOB on blue outbreak, even if only for a short while.
Considerably disappointed....
Originally by: Graalum
Thats a caldari juggernaut torpedo fired by an ibis.
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Haargoth Agamar
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:21:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Major Stormer
Thats what you get for putting BOB on blue outbreak, even if only for a short while.
Considerably disappointed....
lol?
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Khavi Vetali
Team Americas
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:23:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Major Stormer
Thats what you get for putting BOB on blue outbreak, even if only for a short while.
Considerably disappointed....
...by BoB's enemies?
Cause that's what your thought looks like completed using the result of this thread as a reference.
Originally by: Itanis
"Hello there mate, I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm going to have to sodomize you with howitzers. Have a lovely day!"
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James Damar
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:25:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Major Stormer
Thats what you get for putting BOB on blue outbreak, even if only for a short while.
Considerably disappointed....
I've been in Outbreak since it's beginning, I'm a director in Outbreak since the beginning and we have NEVER had BoB to blue. This I can say with 100% honesty.
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:27:00 -
[148]
Jumping to conclusions is, well, inconclusive.
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:27:00 -
[149]
Not even during that.... oh wait thats on our other alts, nm
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:29:00 -
[150]
Bob are blue? must have missed that
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:35:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Major Stormer on 15/03/2007 22:32:18
*coughownedcough*
That was funny
Originally by: Graalum
Thats a caldari juggernaut torpedo fired by an ibis.
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:38:00 -
[152]
Does this mean MC is out of lowsec? We want a clear battleground to go poke at Privateers, please.
Originally by: Splagada
SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:40:00 -
[153]
So is anyone actually going to explain what happened?
Worse than useless for info, you lot
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Heintron
Caldari
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:46:00 -
[154]
Plx battle report! I expect this to be posted by the time I get to work tomorrow :D kthnx |
Julien Derida
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:46:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Heintron
Plx battle report! I expect this to be posted by the time I get to work tomorrow :D kthnx
Nothing happened. Hostiles didn't show, POS was recharged.
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:47:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Patch86
So is anyone actually going to explain what happened?
Worse than useless for info, you lot
I think the "train" got stuck at a station or something...
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:48:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Patch86
So is anyone actually going to explain what happened?
Worse than useless for info, you lot
Thats because nothing happened. not much more to explain except that.
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:50:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 15/03/2007 22:47:38
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Patch86
So is anyone actually going to explain what happened?
Worse than useless for info, you lot
Thats because nothing happened. not much more to explain except that.
"Blue Balls"
Now its time for a quick jolt of sleep.
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Weka Dart
Caldari
Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:51:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Originally by: Patch86
So is anyone actually going to explain what happened?
Worse than useless for info, you lot
I think the "train" got stuck at a station or something...
nice non neutral response from our friends :)
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:51:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Callthetruth
quite possible if the d2 fleet that was around pnq earlier has shifted south. Dont MC have multiple shipyards tho simply to spread the risk of being takne out in one engagement
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
ROFLMAO
Must be embarassing...
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Nostic
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:04:00 -
[161]
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:07:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Julien Derida
Originally by: Heintron
Plx battle report! I expect this to be posted by the time I get to work tomorrow :D kthnx
Nothing happened. Hostiles didn't show, POS was recharged.
what!! please tell me it aint so.... if its true im completely disgusted with the coalition
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Ghost Reaper
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:09:00 -
[163]
they had 47dreads and 15 carriers, with multiple fleets (one with 85bs) and they wudnt engage
sum what dissapointing
Gr
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D34a1
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:12:00 -
[164]
Edited by: D34a1 on 15/03/2007 23:08:53
09000
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:14:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Der Pfaffe on 15/03/2007 23:12:19
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Ahh I see, it was all a cunning plan was it....
Edited for puncuation..
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pickinmanose
RAZOR Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:16:00 -
[166]
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
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Elienia
Serenity of EvE
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:17:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
lol MrAlt... "entire capital fleet of your enemy" lol... take some infos before write post...
coalition looking funny again today
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ph33rf4ct0ry
Minmatar
Hookers From Mars
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:18:00 -
[168]
Edited by: ph33rf4ct0ry on 15/03/2007 23:15:54
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Doesn't look like it took them much effort to put up a couple of pages full of D2 and PURE kills
And they seem to have control of C3- AZN and VNJ again... clever plan indeed
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Baymm
Shadow Gypsies
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:18:00 -
[169]
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
D34a1 = Pickinmanose
You should be more careful.
Baymm
Shadow Gypsies
Rise |
Elienia
Serenity of EvE
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:20:00 -
[170]
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:23:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
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Skoot
Gallente
La Stere
Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:23:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
O man , north and their desilusional way to win this war . Actually i think is ok to move 50 dreads to shoot a pos , then claim on boards that there will be a huge success op and a baby titan will die , then try finish the pos and not able to even try to fight , all you guys doing tonight is running acording to the killboards. Is pretty pathetic way to win a war
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:23:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Wow, what a devious tactic... oh wait...
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Skoot
Gallente
La Stere
Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:24:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Here comes the burn eden :) , crucifier instead of trolling here try get shin ra and ask him about his lovely plan , wait there was none :p
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Elienia
Serenity of EvE
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:25:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
do you realise you are Goon?
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:27:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Crucifier on 15/03/2007 23:24:02
Originally by: Skoot
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Here comes the burn eden :) , crucifier instead of trolling here try get shin ra and ask him about his lovely plan , wait there was none :p
Who the F*CK are you?
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
do you realise you are Goon?
You realise every one of our members are better then all your alliance at pvp?
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:27:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Wow, what a devious tactic... oh wait...
Depending on how they start working from that point it can indeed end up to be brilliant or quite stupid and weak. Imagine putting the thing into reinforced every other day and forcing the MC and BoB to spend their time in that system regularly without any results would be not only quite entertaining, but also quite efficient if you use it as distraction for other things. Or of course if you use it to make them careless at some point and then eventually strike after the 10th or 20th time you have put it into reinforced.
All a matter of perspective and of course also a matter of what comes now or not.
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BorisThe Blade
Amarr
Dicken's Cider
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:28:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Crucifier
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
You realize you are too or maybe you are also willingly giving up 10/10s so RA can show you how to align and shoot straight.
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:28:00 -
[179]
...and here I was bummed that I was going to be at work (as I usually am) when all the "fun" occurred.
Doesn't sound like I missed much.
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:28:00 -
[180]
Originally by: BorisThe Blade
Originally by: Crucifier
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
You realize you are too or maybe you are also willingly giving up 10/10s so RA can show you how to align and shoot straight.
Heh, if ra told us what to do we'd leave. So, up yours alt.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:32:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Wow, what a devious tactic... oh wait...
Depending on how they start working from that point it can indeed end up to be brilliant or quite stupid and weak. Imagine putting the thing into reinforced every other day and forcing the MC and BoB to spend their time in that system regularly without any results would be not only quite entertaining, but also quite efficient if you use it as distraction for other things. Or of course if you use it to make them careless at some point and then eventually strike after the 10th or 20th time you have put it into reinforced.
All a matter of perspective and of course also a matter of what comes now or not.
Well the problem is how are they gonna put it into reinforced when the MC is around to spank their fleet? They cant.
I guess they could attack the POS every time MC moves somewhere else in order to get em to come back but tbh that'll just result in the same stuff happening there as thats happening in Fountain.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr
Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:32:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Wow, what a devious tactic... oh wait...
Depending on how they start working from that point it can indeed end up to be brilliant or quite stupid and weak. Imagine putting the thing into reinforced every other day and forcing the MC and BoB to spend their time in that system regularly without any results would be not only quite entertaining, but also quite efficient if you use it as distraction for other things. Or of course if you use it to make them careless at some point and then eventually strike after the 10th or 20th time you have put it into reinforced.
All a matter of perspective and of course also a matter of what comes now or not.
I do have to say, that's a brillian strategy for winning a war. ASCN would be proud.
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Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:33:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Looking down on some just means YOU think your better than them -> which is arrogance -> which is one of the reasons proclaimed for killing BOB -> which is prolly why coalition propaganda fell so flat on it's face..
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Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:34:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Crucifier
Edited by: Crucifier on 15/03/2007 23:24:02
Originally by: Skoot
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Here comes the burn eden :) , crucifier instead of trolling here try get shin ra and ask him about his lovely plan , wait there was none :p
Who the F*CK are you?
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
do you realise you are Goon?
You realise every one of our members are better then all your alliance at pvp?
You realise our killboard says it all about Goon "PVP" ?
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Amarr
Dicken's Cider
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:35:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: BorisThe Blade
Originally by: Crucifier
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
You realize you are too or maybe you are also willingly giving up 10/10s so RA can show you how to align and shoot straight.
Heh, if ra told us what to do we'd leave. So, up yours alt.
Yeah ofc and all those people paying bob are doing it out of kindess go gargle cat sh*t with your stupid replies
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Lucita Thoron
Minmatar
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:46:00 -
[186]
Much hate here
Can we have GF in game, please? All i want is good long juicy fight with very lov lag. See you there ppl
"In ancient times they had no statistics so they had to fall back on lies."
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Ziplock
La Stere
Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:49:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Edited by: Shin Ra on 14/03/2007 01:03:14
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Shin Ra
The risk for MC is: How many capitals is enough to defend them when they come out of reinforced. JV1V was nothing compared to whats coming.
Well considering the speed that we did it, quite a few may be needed.
Obviously that number is classified
See you on thursday evening :D
OH the fleets... they camed like the wind and left like some old farts...
my guess is that all coalition was gathered just to fraps the ocasion... but couldnt decide who will be the ones doing the actual fight... so, after looking at some gates for a bit... they decided to go to the forums and write some more:
OH noes... the coalition didnt actually wanted to kill the capital yards NO.
They just wanted to see if bob will protect them.
Coalition doesent anchor pos-es in a system to gain something... they just want to see how much ammo bob is using to shoot them...
I tell ya... is all part of a bigger plan that will be revealed in some other thursday.
OMG... how can you guys live with the shame...
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.15 23:57:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 15/03/2007 23:58:20
Originally by: Seleene
We were all fired up...
Then it seems the Coalition decided to invade FIX again.
Shipyard reparied. We're on the move. Pew pew!
I will address Seleene, as unlike some (most) people in this forum, he actually knows what is going on.
First off, I am impressed by your organisation, you pulled in numbers from everywhere. Huge amount of capitals, and huge support, props to you for that.
However, it does show that you take us seriously now
You did need those numbers, and the assault was indeed diverted. I am sure you will want to flame us, but we chose not to fight a sensless lag battle, losses would have been great on both sides. I am sure you saw a little of our capital fleet, and now know what to expect.
Second...after seeing your impressive efforts to bring devastating firepower to the field...we chose to switch targets, other POS were put in reinf I am sure you have fall back plans as well...
Bottome line is...we suffered insignifigant losses, and so did you.
You guys were well prepared and up to speed, nice job.
Can you sustain those numbers
I am fairly sure that is the most capital ships deployed in one engagement, ...around 250 ready to rock, for their cause. Amazing stuff
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Edit: Ziplock...why do you need to Troll? Were you ganked recently perhaps, or maybe, like many of the trolls..you feel left out.
Maybe you need a hug
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:02:00 -
[189]
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
You mean: 'We didn't want (to kill) those cap yards anyway.' ?
Harhar.
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Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:02:00 -
[190]
Edited by: Dekiri on 15/03/2007 23:58:23
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Wow, what a devious tactic... oh wait...
Depending on how they start working from that point it can indeed end up to be brilliant or quite stupid and weak. Imagine putting the thing into reinforced every other day and forcing the MC and BoB to spend their time in that system regularly without any results would be not only quite entertaining, but also quite efficient if you use it as distraction for other things. Or of course if you use it to make them careless at some point and then eventually strike after the 10th or 20th time you have put it into reinforced.
All a matter of perspective and of course also a matter of what comes now or not.
I do have to say, that's a brillian strategy for winning a war. ASCN would be proud.
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
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Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:05:00 -
[191]
i have lost the will to play eve, the coalition won. ohno
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Ferocious FeAr
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:09:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 15/03/2007 23:58:20
Originally by: Seleene
We were all fired up...
Then it seems the Coalition decided to invade FIX again.
Shipyard reparied. We're on the move. Pew pew!
I will address Seleene, as unlike some (most) people in this forum, he actually knows what is going on.
First off, I am impressed by your organisation, you pulled in numbers from everywhere. Huge amount of capitals, and huge support, props to you for that.
However, it does show that you take us seriously now
You did need those numbers, and the assault was indeed diverted. I am sure you will want to flame us, but we chose not to fight a sensless lag battle, losses would have been great on both sides. I am sure you saw a little of our capital fleet, and now know what to expect.
Second...after seeing your impressive efforts to bring devastating firepower to the field...we chose to switch targets, other POS were put in reinf I am sure you have fall back plans as well...
Bottome line is...we suffered insignifigant losses, and so did you.
You guys were well prepared and up to speed, nice job.
Can you sustain those numbers
I am fairly sure that is the most capital ships deployed in one engagement, ...around 250 ready to rock, for their cause. Amazing stuff
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Edit: Ziplock...why do you need to Troll? Were you ganked recently perhaps, or maybe, like many of the trolls..you feel left out.
Maybe you need a hug
There was never a point where we thought you weren't serious. When our home is attacked, whether its d2 or abc123 alliance we treat each incident the same. From my experience, when one attempts to take our veldspar away from us that makes us angry!
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:09:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Dekiri
Edited by: Dekiri on 15/03/2007 23:58:23
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Wow, what a devious tactic... oh wait...
Depending on how they start working from that point it can indeed end up to be brilliant or quite stupid and weak. Imagine putting the thing into reinforced every other day and forcing the MC and BoB to spend their time in that system regularly without any results would be not only quite entertaining, but also quite efficient if you use it as distraction for other things. Or of course if you use it to make them careless at some point and then eventually strike after the 10th or 20th time you have put it into reinforced.
All a matter of perspective and of course also a matter of what comes now or not.
I do have to say, that's a brillian strategy for winning a war. ASCN would be proud.
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
That is a dirty lie, your dad cannot beat up my dad, as my dad is a black belt.
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Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:13:00 -
[194]
Edited by: Dekiri on 16/03/2007 00:10:26
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Dekiri
Edited by: Dekiri on 15/03/2007 23:58:23
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
Wow, what a devious tactic... oh wait...
Depending on how they start working from that point it can indeed end up to be brilliant or quite stupid and weak. Imagine putting the thing into reinforced every other day and forcing the MC and BoB to spend their time in that system regularly without any results would be not only quite entertaining, but also quite efficient if you use it as distraction for other things. Or of course if you use it to make them careless at some point and then eventually strike after the 10th or 20th time you have put it into reinforced.
All a matter of perspective and of course also a matter of what comes now or not.
I do have to say, that's a brillian strategy for winning a war. ASCN would be proud.
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
That is a dirty lie, your dad cannot beat up my dad, as my dad is a black belt.
seruzly my dad can beat up ANY dad! And he would even beat up your dad if he was a hat or a scarf!
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Lorth
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:15:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Dekiri
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
I'm sure they have smarter people in the coalition then this, but if not we may be NPC'ing in Branch before then end of the mounth.
The pot will boil over soon, I hope I'm home for the fireworks.
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Allied Logistics Transportation Services
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:15:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 15/03/2007 23:58:20However, it does show that you take us seriously now
You did need those numbers, and the assault was indeed diverted. I am sure you will want to flame us, but we chose not to fight a sensless lag battle, losses would have been great on both sides. I am sure you saw a little of our capital fleet, and now know what to expect.
Second...after seeing your impressive efforts to bring devastating firepower to the field...we chose to switch targets, other POS were put in reinf I am sure you have fall back plans as well...
This is the kind of foe everyone wants. One who is sensible and decides not to endure a lag fest but wait for a more proper time of attack.
Props to both sides, this kind of thinking should be the ideal way of playing EVE.
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:18:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Dekiri on 16/03/2007 00:14:39
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Dekiri
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
I'm sure they have smarter people in the coalition then this, but if not we may be NPC'ing in Branch before then end of the mounth.
The pot will boil over soon, I hope I'm home for the fireworks.
Taking pos into reinforced = quick and relativly easy if timed well, but preparing for defense and recharging is more effort and way more boring. You know that and I know that.
Whatever it means I was just adding a posibility=P
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Serapis Aote
Minmatar
TBC
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:18:00 -
[198]
Wasnt there...
large bob/mc forcers lots of ships.
Coalition has a choice jump in, lag DD fleet goes bye bye...everyone makes fun of them on eve-o
Avoid lag go do something more fun less lag...get made fun of on eve-o.
They jump in crash node...eve-o people call them cheaters.
I think they made the right choice...and probably the choice the other side would have made as well.
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Draximus Cane
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:22:00 -
[199]
Jabber, Jabber :P
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:29:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Dekiri
Edited by: Dekiri on 16/03/2007 00:14:39
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Dekiri
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
I'm sure they have smarter people in the coalition then this, but if not we may be NPC'ing in Branch before then end of the mounth.
The pot will boil over soon, I hope I'm home for the fireworks.
Taking pos into reinforced = quick and relativly easy if timed well, but preparing for defense and recharging is more effort and way more boring. You know that and I know that.
Whatever it means I was just adding a posibility=P
Warfare with no or rare, recognizable victories bores.. shooting a POS into reenforced again and again isnt a recognizable victory.. "hey we won, the tower is in re enforced \o/"
boring an enemy works on a small scale, on a large scale you have to play to win..
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Moonlight Express
Amarr
Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:31:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Dekiri
Edited by: Dekiri on 16/03/2007 00:14:39
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Dekiri
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
I'm sure they have smarter people in the coalition then this, but if not we may be NPC'ing in Branch before then end of the mounth.
The pot will boil over soon, I hope I'm home for the fireworks.
Taking pos into reinforced = quick and relativly easy if timed well, but preparing for defense and recharging is more effort and way more boring. You know that and I know that.
Whatever it means I was just adding a posibility=P
Thinking that by putting POS in to reinforce mode will make BoB not want to log in to the game is even dumber then claiming that BoB is leaving EVE for POTBS. Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.
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Lorth
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:32:00 -
[202]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Dekiri
Edited by: Dekiri on 16/03/2007 00:14:39
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Dekiri
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
I'm sure they have smarter people in the coalition then this, but if not we may be NPC'ing in Branch before then end of the mounth.
The pot will boil over soon, I hope I'm home for the fireworks.
Taking pos into reinforced = quick and relativly easy if timed well, but preparing for defense and recharging is more effort and way more boring. You know that and I know that.
Whatever it means I was just adding a posibility=P
Warfare with no or rare, recognizable victories bores.. shooting a POS into reenforced again and again isnt a recognizable victory.. "hey we won, the tower is in re enforced \o/"
boring an enemy works on a small scale, on a large scale you have to play to win..
Either way, I'm pretty certain this is not thier plan. And thier prob is a decent reason for not having a fight tonight, though I must admit that it is a least a little ammusing.
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:32:00 -
[203]
Edited by: Hehulk on 16/03/2007 00:29:09
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Because no-one looks down on Goons as RA slaves
Remind me, who runs those 10/10s you fought for again?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:35:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Skoot
then claim on boards that there will be a huge success op and a baby titan will die
Giving away too much intel ftl
Guinea pigs, yes I had your very unpleasant banner removed.
It's a game, what you believe in R/L is best kept to yourselves.
Credit to the people who brought ships out tonight, but I will never respect the stink that came from Guinea Pigs banner, hang your heads in shame
am out of this thread now, the smell is too bad
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:37:00 -
[205]
Well I have to say congratulations to the "enemys":
Still dont know all the details of the entire action because I only saw a part of it, but the strategic deployment of your forces in Delve was very good to say the least, while watching the blobs on map and how you were blocking all the possible ways to get to the objective.
Your fleet manouvering, displayed how competent your FC's are and the awesome capability to react fast and with wisdom.
Very nice JOB today to BOB, LV, MC and all the others. Even if we are on diferent sides of the trenches is always nice to see someone proving that fleet warfare is not only lock and press F1.. F8. You prepared the battlefield extremelly well.
See you tomorrow
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:40:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Serapis Aote
Wasnt there...
large bob/mc forcers lots of ships.
Coalition has a choice jump in, lag DD fleet goes bye bye...everyone makes fun of them on eve-o
Avoid lag go do something more fun less lag...get made fun of on eve-o.
They jump in crash node...eve-o people call them cheaters.
I think they made the right choice...and probably the choice the other side would have made as well.
The one good thing is that CCP finally begun to understand, and now can witness in full, how these 'hot features' they introduced, despite certain ppl protesting, have indeed killed the game.
Roll on the next Kali patches but you better make sure their mechanics are anti-blobbing.
Am I forced to have any regret?
I've become the lie, beautiful and free
In my righteous own mind
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Trebiz
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:42:00 -
[207]
I think the coalition's choice was more or less a good one, while not maybe what they wanted.
I fully agree with Churchill when he said: "In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might."
However, as others have pointed out, the MC constellation is in the middle of fracking no where. It took the opposition a lot of fuel, a lot of time, and a lot of resources to get there.
I'm sure they'll eventually make a stand somewhere, but I'm perfectly content in letting them waste fuel and stront in the meantime.
Let's be honest with each other for a second though. While all wars involve attrition, expending massive amounts of resources to bore your enemy isn't going to make you win that aspect by any means.
-Six
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:53:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Hehulk
Edited by: Hehulk on 16/03/2007 00:29:09
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Because no-one looks down on Goons as RA slaves
Remind me, who runs those 10/10s you fought for again?
hehe.. well said.
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BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:57:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Originally by: Hehulk
Edited by: Hehulk on 16/03/2007 00:29:09
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Elienia
Originally by: pickinmanose
What half of bob and their idiot friends dont know is that we never actually planned to kill of MC's cap ship yard, that was just a bonus.
While BOB and their friends spread out over many systems in period basis and delve, the coalition pounded down towers in 9cg.
9cg yea... 5 weeks in 9CG... what happend? in 5 years in Delve? Open your eyes lol
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Because no-one looks down on Goons as RA slaves
Remind me, who runs those 10/10s you fought for again?
hehe.. well said.
Ironic, considering you paid for yours.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:59:00 -
[210]
Edited by: The Runner on 16/03/2007 00:56:05
Quote:
You realise every one of our members are better then all your alliance at pvp?
Tell that to the roughly 17 Goonswarm that are now pushing up daisy in 0SUF
Wrong Char: Blight1 - Dark and Light
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:03:00 -
[211]
Originally by: The Runner
Edited by: The Runner on 16/03/2007 00:56:05
Quote:
You realise every one of our members are better then all your alliance at pvp?
Tell that to the roughly 17 Goonswarm that are now pushing up daisy in 0SUF
Wrong Char: Blight1 - Dark and Light
He mean burn eden. Any yeah goons are ****, so what everyone knows that. lolt1frignoobsctrlq
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:05:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Originally by: Hehulk
Remind me, who runs those 10/10s you fought for again?
hehe.. well said.
Ironic, considering you paid for yours.
Hehehe, made me chuckle
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nickycakes
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:07:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Ironic, considering you paid for yours.
how's that ironic? you're paying for yours too...only not getting to use it
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:11:00 -
[214]
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Shin Ra
Ironic, considering you paid for yours.
how's that ironic? you're paying for yours too...only not getting to use it
No, we're just testing RA's response time.
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nickycakes
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:13:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Shin Ra
No, we're just testing RA's response time.
i think smash already did that for you, but you didn't want that plex anyway, m i rite?
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:16:00 -
[216]
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Shin Ra
No, we're just testing RA's response time.
i think smash already did that for you, but you didn't want that plex anyway, m i rite?
Tests were inconclusive, no caps were lost.
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BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:18:00 -
[217]
Nicky, you guys (LV) dont even have space, so Im not sure how you can be inthis conversation... 8P
Anyways who cares, We are on the offensive , BoB and MC (others) are defending. Thats all there is to say right now, let it be.
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Frances Ducoir
Academy of Decadence
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:25:00 -
[218]
this thread is full of smacktards and most of them are bob allies... nothing changed due to to BoB forum silence.
the 2 only good posts in here were the statement from Flinx Evenstar and Seelenes answer on page 7. 95% of the other posts are CRAP.
some people here definetly need to grow up a bit.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:31:00 -
[219]
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Shin Ra
No, we're just testing RA's response time.
i think smash already did that for you, but you didn't want that plex anyway, m i rite?
How's Stain?
Originally by: Ice Conch
In soviet russia, soap drops you!
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capt robn0id2
Amarr
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:33:00 -
[220]
I see flaming of the coalition coming from odd places.
1st LV - coalition took all your space in what? a month? So now u lurk in empire or in little roaming gank squads and flame flame flame. Take a cue from ASCN, realise when its over and move on.
2nd MC - Didnt you get completetly rapetrained by -A- recently and only when they bored of this did u start to flame flame flame again from ur little corner under bod's wing. I do respect your alliance but it seems Seleene is the only one willing or able to make a decent post.
3rd Rise - Not sure the exact nature of what happened but werent u pwned by some small alliance in the north when D2 let them use ur space? Then u scurried down under the wing of bod with Mc to do what? Flame flame flame.
From where i sit, the map is continously changing in favour of the rapetrain. Until bod and her annoying little flaming children actually take something back I just find it odd to see this constant attack on coalition tactics. The "bad" tactics employed by the coalition seem to be working so far. Its probably best to not flame them as their tactics seem to be working at flushing the filth off the eve maps.
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Academy of Decadence
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:39:00 -
[221]
Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 16/03/2007 01:36:02
Originally by: capt robn0id2
I see flaming of the coalition coming from odd places.
1st LV - coalition took all your space in what? a month? So now u lurk in empire or in little roaming gank squads and flame flame flame. Take a cue from ASCN, realise when its over and move on.
2nd MC - Didnt you get completetly rapetrained by -A- recently and only when they bored of this did u start to flame flame flame again from ur little corner under bod's wing. I do respect your alliance but it seems Seleene is the only one willing or able to make a decent post.
3rd Rise - Not sure the exact nature of what happened but werent u pwned by some small alliance in the north when D2 let them use ur space? Then u scurried down under the wing of bod with Mc to do what? Flame flame flame.
From where i sit, the map is continously changing in favour of the rapetrain. Until bod and her annoying little flaming children actually take something back I just find it odd to see this constant attack on coalition tactics. The "bad" tactics employed by the coalition seem to be working so far. Its probably best to not flame them as their tactics seem to be working at flushing the filth off the eve maps.
QFT
it must be fun to celebrate your own fistfight with a knife in your back
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boogaboob
Caldari
BIG Advanced Assault
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:47:00 -
[222]
Edited by: boogaboob on 16/03/2007 01:47:49
Hm, I suspect that the coalition made the right choice here.
Here's how it probably went on D2 TS:
D2 FC #1: Hrm, if we jump in we'll probably get the entire fleet doomsdayed and lose it due to lag.
D2 FC #2: You're right. Well, we have no choice.
D2 FC #1: Wait- I have an idea, let's go take this fleet and attack somewhere else!
D2 FC #2: But a bunch of tards will flame us on EVE-O for not jumping in.
D2 FC #1: Who gives a ****?
Yeah, so in conclusion this was anticlimactic but probably the best likely outcome for our side.
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Love DNGD
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:50:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Nostic
What's embarrassing about forcing the entire capital fleet of your enemy back into the deepest corner of their space, and forcing 600 of their players to waste 4 hours looking at a gate? Take into consideration that it took pretty much no effort from D2, besides maybe organizing enough dread pilots, to put an unhardened POS into reinforced.
excuse the troll but, if you dont know anything about internal politics of the groups involved, just dont post.
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Awyn Lothr
Andromeda BR
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:59:00 -
[224]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Nicky, you guys (LV) dont even have space, so Im not sure how you can be inthis conversation... 8P
Anyways who cares, We are on the offensive , BoB and MC (others) are defending. Thats all there is to say right now, let it be.
WildCat
Im new to the game but ... doesnt the fact that BoB won sov over 2 systems yesterday means that BoB is actualy on the attack to?
Im not a fan from anyone, but from what I see in the killboards of all alliances I dont think the coalition is going to get BoB players to stop wanting to login because they have for the past days kill/loss ratios of over 10 to 1, so I image they are having the times of their lives.
I hope the war keeps up and that all sides have fun, after all thats why we are all here.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Gallente
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:02:00 -
[225]
Originally by: capt robn0id2
I see flaming of the coalition coming from odd places.
2nd MC - Didnt you get completetly rapetrained by -A- recently and only when they bored of this did u start to flame flame flame again from ur little corner under bod's wing. I do respect your alliance but it seems Seleene is the only one willing or able to make a decent post.
Huh? I'll answer this for you son...
Seleene is the head honcho or "leader" and thus is the one who will usually post the response of the MC. Not like this matters to someone like yourself. You, who delivers up such delectable flamebait pie...
Can anyone get me some vanilla ice cream to put on top of his post? Hell someone get me enough for the entire thread! I like my flamebait pie "ala mode".
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boogaboob
Caldari
BIG Advanced Assault
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:12:00 -
[226]
Originally by: capt robn0id2
Edited by: capt robn0id2 on 16/03/2007 01:42:56
I see flaming of the coalition coming from odd places.
1st LV - coalition took all your space in what? a month? So now u lurk in empire or in little roaming gank squads and flame flame flame. Take a cue from ASCN, realise when its over and move on.
2nd MC - Didnt you get completetly rapetrained by -A- recently and only when they bored of this did u start to flame flame flame again from ur little corner under bod's wing. I do respect your alliance but it seems Seleene is the only one willing or able to make a decent post.
3rd Rise - Not sure the exact nature of what happened but werent u pwned by some small alliance in the north when D2 let them use ur space? Then u scurried down under the wing of bob with Mc to do what? Flame flame flame.
Short answer to all 3 questions/statements:
1. Yes
2. Not really
3. Sort of
Long answers:
1. Yes. LV got pretty badly pwned and lost all their space, yet they continue to smack from their hidey-holes in stain and bob-space.
2. Not really. AAA attacked MC space and reinforced a bunch of towers, and MC saved them, in the process losing several capital ships. AAA went home despite taking no substantial losses, don't ask me why
3. Sorta. Youwhat did indeed beat RISE, but only because Outbreak intervened on YW's behalf. IMO RISE wasn;t a bad alliance, but has lost strength since they became BoB tenants.
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Izzy Pol
Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:16:00 -
[227]
Originally by: boogaboob
Edited by: boogaboob on 16/03/2007 01:47:49
Hm, I suspect that the coalition made the right choice here.
Here's how it probably went on D2 TS:
D2 FC #1: Hrm, if we jump in we'll probably get the entire fleet doomsdayed and lose it due to lag.
D2 FC #2: You're right. Well, we have no choice.
D2 FC #1: Wait- I have an idea, let's go take this fleet and attack somewhere else!
D2 FC #2: But a bunch of tards will flame us on EVE-O for not jumping in.
D2 FC #1: Who gives a ****?
Yeah, so in conclusion this was anticlimactic but probably the best likely outcome for our side.
It was anti-climactic and probably sensible too. Why on earth some people try to spin it (however lightly) as a "victory" is beyond me.
A little less self delusion and honesty would make better reading for everybody that is interested in this internet space game soap opera.
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Topaz Skydiver
Minmatar
Narrative Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:18:00 -
[228]
Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 16/03/2007 02:15:52
Originally by: capt robn0id2
Until bod and her annoying little flaming children actually take...
You wrote 'bod', so I suggest you look in the mirror. In my eyes you are also just an annoying smacking child.
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Menf
Seraphin Technologies
S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:22:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Awyn Lothr
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Nicky, you guys (LV) dont even have space, so Im not sure how you can be inthis conversation... 8P
Anyways who cares, We are on the offensive , BoB and MC (others) are defending. Thats all there is to say right now, let it be.
WildCat
Im new to the game but ... doesnt the fact that BoB won sov over 2 systems yesterday means that BoB is actualy on the attack to?
BoB are not on the attack, but as long you cant defend a system fight back is the only way to go.
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Franga
Caldari
NQX Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:22:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Zhaine
I'm meant to be quitting this game in disgust but am very active still.
You and the rest of Coreli stick to making maps. Your rhetoric and pro-BoB posts (whilst claiming to be neutral) are naughty and tend to make you look a little silly. Particularly yourself who has made a big long statement about how you're quitting and blah, blah, blah.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:25:00 -
[231]
Originally by: The Runner
Edited by: The Runner on 16/03/2007 00:56:05
Quote:
You realise every one of our members are better then all your alliance at pvp?
Tell that to the roughly 17 Goonswarm that are now pushing up daisy in 0SUF
Wrong Char: Blight1 - Dark and Light
We killed 5 bs and killed some support, and lost 3 and more support in a 40 v 120. Congrats. Shame we had to bring those extra 5 people to bring it up to 40, stupid goon blobbers.
We had fun - I hope you guys did too.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
Minmatar
Maza Nostra
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:38:00 -
[232]
What some people fail to understand is that not all players will get a twitch and decide to suicide a fleet just for the fun of firing 2 rounds in 10 minutes. Twitchy gameplay is good fun but rarely accomplishes strategic goals, it all depends on what "subgame" of EvE you're playing.
Case in point, if we were back in the E-R days i suppose we would have taken a bunch of cruisers and the odd blasterthron and leeroyed that camp for laughs. Now that we're in an alliance (well, they are, i'm inactive ) we have to think about other stuff too. There's no use losing a BS fitted to the brim with t2 to factors the player can't control like lag and more importantly, every ship lost in a stupid manner is a ship less to back up the alliance when a playable situation arises.
Of course if there were 2-3 suicide waves crashing the gatecamp the outcome could have been different, but it's too much manpower to do simultaneously with a regular fleet of BS and capitals. I guess that if the Goons were there it would be a repeat of the LV cap yards scenario, regardless of node holding or not.
The simplest plan for the coalition would be to send suicide t1 frigs and cyno in capitals/jump portal the fleet, but that can't be done if the node drops or the titan stands looking at empty space for 10 minutes while it's taken down.
All in all, you can't condemn these guys for not engaging because it's like damning them for not giving away cheap kills. Do you want a fight or do you want to shoot offline/unresponsive ships again, oh mighty seekers of utmost challenge?
It's not BoB's fault the game is broken (yes, it is broken beyond belief at this point), but when BoB is so proficient at the widely undocumented mechanics of said breakage, you can't fault their enemies for not willing to engage there and taking their firepower where it could actually be used properly. It's not being risk averse, it's common sense...a quality that obscure humanoid creatures like goblins, orcs and most importantly, trolls usually fail to comprehend when they have an agenda to push. Happy shield boosting
Originally by: Eloryan Persago, Goonfleet
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:43:00 -
[233]
Edited by: Xeliya on 16/03/2007 02:42:36
Just so you guys no there was no Titan in MC space so don't say you diverted because you didn't want to be DD'ed. Also CCP had reinforced all the nodes around there before hand so they would hopefully keep up.
Originally by: KIATolon
We killed 5 bs and killed some support, and lost 3 and more support in a 40 v 120. Congrats. Shame we had to bring those extra 5 people to bring it up to 40, stupid goon blobbers.
We had fun - I hope you guys did too.
Actually you lost about 30 of that gang tonight, and the only real BS's ya got were the ones in TPAR to delay you guys and pop the dictor like we did, so more could catch up. You also had 50+ and some nicely fitted ships ^^ Faction lewt 4tw. In GQ2 alone you lost 8 killed 1 on even terms then warped when the small BoB gang jumped in. Also don't wear stabs . . . Kinda sad you warped out with a point on you and so did a few of your other BS's.
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 03:00:00 -
[234]
Edited by: Kyguard on 16/03/2007 02:58:26
what if
what if
what if
Tut tut, its over, get over it.
I don't see why the coalition is justifying itself, hearing the lag was so bad some systems away is reason enough.
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GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 03:24:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Dekiri
Depending on how they start working from that point it can indeed end up to be brilliant or quite stupid and weak. Imagine putting the thing into reinforced every other day and forcing the MC and BoB to spend their time in that system regularly without any results would be not only quite entertaining, but also quite efficient if you use it as distraction for other things. Or of course if you use it to make them careless at some point and then eventually strike after the 10th or 20th time you have put it into reinforced.
You know, by the 6th time they do this we'll probably blow it up by ourselves and fraps the whole thing for the entertainment of the masses. I mean, what's a few billion between friends?
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The Jok3r
Hookers From Mars
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Posted - 2007.03.16 03:49:00 -
[236]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Nicky, you guys (LV) dont even have space, so Im not sure how you can be inthis conversation... 8P
Anyways who cares, We are on the offensive , BoB and MC (others) are defending. Thats all there is to say right now, let it be.
WildCat
QFT wildcat and maybe LV will disband and with no alliance and no space they can inflate kill board numbers, bring back stabs and fake chat logs. Then and only then will the be able to stick their nose into every thread just like BE used to.
I might have told you more than I know...
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Manfred Sideous
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 05:26:00 -
[237]
We need to take time out and give respect to the true power of todays battle.
The Osprey
Your Sig Here? |
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hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 06:16:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Manfred Sideous
We need to take time out and give respect to the true power of todays battle.
The Osprey
I miss the days of the osprey tbh... The sheer recharging power of 30 carriers is insanity...
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Heptameron
Gallente
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:05:00 -
[239]
Just to add a snippet more info about last night the Razor gang headed down to delve to join up with our northern friends. Lag got progressively worse as we approached the target area. Intel came in of the reception laid on for us, and we fully expected to get a fight out of this.
I think maybe 2 jumps from the target system, we met up with an iron fleet, maybe around 240 in local at the time and everything went screwy. Everyone tried to log back in, failed, petitioned CCP to be moved to another system (or on top of MC cap yards would have been nice!), failed (looked like some sort of auto message or 1 guy going nuts with copy/paste). After about an hour GM's replied area being fixed.
Same time scouts in surrounding areas (they had managed to stay in game) reported sizeable BoB fleet inbound. Now heres the important bit for the nubtards who think we should have fought and are busy beating their chests from behind the rather large BoB safety net kindly provided by your masters.... Not everyone was still able to log in simultaneously, people were spread across systems and some had logged out of frustration, so co-ordination had gone out of the window to a large extent.
So let's recap so you don't lose the point here.... mahoosive fleet in target system just waiting for coalition to jump in. coalition forces split, reduced considerably because of login problems, and now when they are starting to log in they have a roaming bob fleet taking advantage of the situation and just picking up opportunity kills. (No complaints there, we nearly all CTD'd at a gate and we would do the same if the roles were reversed).
Now given all that you are picking holes in our failure to attack? I do beleive there's a call for a 'get a clue' skill and some of you should try gettin that to lvl 5 before you post on topics you obviously have no idea about.
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Alizeee
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:16:00 -
[240]
Can anyone confirm what is being built in the capital shipyard ?
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Randorial
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:17:00 -
[241]
So in short:
The coalition wanted to bring enough people to crash the node. But when you did crash nodes all over, you decided not to engage. Funny stuff.
"omg the enemy has friends to, and they blobbed and prepared!! No fair!! But our plan always was to hit a pos in 9cg, HAH! gotcha!"
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Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:18:00 -
[242]
Can't you guys at least bother to create corps for your alts?
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Heptameron
Gallente
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:26:00 -
[243]
Edited by: Heptameron on 16/03/2007 08:27:14
Originally by: Randorial
So in short:
The coalition wanted to bring enough people to crash the node. But when you did crash nodes all over, you decided not to engage. Funny stuff.
"omg the enemy has friends to, and they blobbed and prepared!! No fair!! But our plan always was to hit a pos in 9cg, HAH! gotcha!"
another get a clue candidate... try checking how many bob friendly forces were in the area first. intel suggested around the 600 mark in target system compared to approx 450 coalition inbound. So what are you suggesting exactly? Perhaps jump in 50 at a time... (edited, apologies for smacking - this could be the conflict we have all waited and hoped for but server issues mean the only winners will be lag and forum whoahs)
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Bienurdau Hywoaf
Minmatar
Matari Holo News Network
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:41:00 -
[244]
Considering the overall trouble the servers had yesterday. I'm not surprised if the assault was called off. I'm sure they'll try again though :)
I mean we started off the day with a long unscheduled downtime that overlapped normal downtime. Even after that things remained laggy in many parts of the game.
So I can see holding off for possibly better conditions.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:41:00 -
[245]
I think the coalition is getting a bit of a drumming because of the earlier posts in this thread, in fact someone commented on it as well. The battle isn't over yet as another POS comes out of reinforced today.
However putting POS into reinforced is not enough, they have to be destroyed and risks have to be taken just like when the allies destroyed the eight large hostile POS in 9cg earlier in the month or the D2 POS we've been taking out in the north. With Dreads starting to become the new BS in EVE and Titans ready to sweep away support with their doomsday weps there looks like soon to be a pure massive cap ship to cap ship battle with lots of losses on both sides, this is the way the war is starting to shape up to.
There's not need for chest beating and flaming on the forums as it's better to let ones results speak for themselves.
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Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:44:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
However putting POS into reinforced is not enough, they have to be destroyed and risks have to be taken just like when the allies destroyed the eight large hostile POS in 9cg earlier in the month or the D2 POS we've been taking out in the north.
I have yet to see you deploy dreads against a fleet of 500+ people, so please get off your high horse.
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Alcatraz
Caldari
Purg4tory
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:51:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Heptameron
we met up with an iron fleet, maybe around 240 in local at the time and everything went screwy. Everyone tried to log back in, failed, petitioned CCP to be moved to another system (or on top of MC cap yards would have been nice!), failed (looked like some sort of auto message or 1 guy going nuts with copy/paste).
Let me get this straigh...you chrashed the system you where in, and asked the GMs to move you PAST the MC camp straight to the capital yards!!!
Is the North the new goons?
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:54:00 -
[248]
He was joking you stupid ****
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:10:00 -
[249]
Quote:
Bottom line is...we suffered insignifigant losses,
Never before has a member of Dusk and Dawn described their own fleet with such accuracy.
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Irishi Ka
Rabble-Rousers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:31:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Quote:
Bottom line is...we suffered insignifigant losses,
Never before has a member of Dusk and Dawn described their own fleet with such accuracy.
Never before has a BoB member not used an alt to post.
Oh wait!
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RaBbLe66
Amarr
Amarr Dissidents Club
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:34:00 -
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Lets see
LV defend JV1 with 450 people , the coalition bring enough people to take in those 450, the node crashes and the coalition gets slammed on the forums for even trying...
BoB has 600 people waiting in the ship yard systems, the coalition doesnt have enough to be sure of taking the system, and to be sure, the amount of people they would have to bring would crash the node, so they dont attack.. and get flamed on the forums for not trying.
Damned if they do, and Damned if they dont..
I find it funny that many of those who criticised RAGOON for attacking JV1 in such numbers are now flaming the coalition for not doing it again.. Hypocrites..
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Faceless Pokemon
United Earth Directorate
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:35:00 -
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We Xelas were not asked to come help, i think they thought they would be okay without our 6 man fleet
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Ziplock
La Stere
Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:40:00 -
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OK... i want to apologise(NOT) if someone found our banner offensive. but that has nothing to do with this thread.
Point to this whole sharade is that it was the coalition that started all the cheastbeating and acting like they won something just by putting the tower into reinforce and then failing to capitalise on that.
I'm, not saying it was wrong to divert your forces to another target... all i was trying to say is that it was wrong to consider you had a victory before you actually get into that fight and doit.
Yes, lag would have been insane, from the ppl that went there lag was insane even without the fleets actually jumping into eachother, but after all this, it seems to me that your only tactic thus far is to provoke bob and then see if they show up or not to defend... if they do then you choose another target. OK, is a good tactic, but you have to realise that eventually you will have to get into a fight like that.
Now, betting that bob will not show up to defend against the coalition not showing up to attack in a coordinated coherent manner is a mistake imho.
It is nice to see some coalition members faling back to reason after the flames and ranting but is a bit late for that now. You will have to WTFPWN BOB as you promissed, as you bragged on countless posts.
You can't wait 10 years until you can have a 500/500 man lag free fight. bob called your bluff now all you have to do is pay up or fold
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:44:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Ziplock
Point to this whole sharade is that it was the coalition that started all the cheastbeating and acting like they won something just by putting the tower into reinforce and then failing to capitalise on that.
I'm, not saying it was wrong to divert your forces to another target... all i was trying to say is that it was wrong to consider you had a victory before you actually get into that fight and doit.
Oh really. Rabble, the op, is what looks to be an alt who suckered alot of people into answering posts which turned out to be a two-sided flaming contest. This was not an official post by any side to chestbeat or say they had won the fight.
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Heptameron
Gallente
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Alcatraz
Originally by: Heptameron
we met up with an iron fleet, maybe around 240 in local at the time and everything went screwy. Everyone tried to log back in, failed, petitioned CCP to be moved to another system (or on top of MC cap yards would have been nice!), failed (looked like some sort of auto message or 1 guy going nuts with copy/paste).
Let me get this straigh...you chrashed the system you where in, and asked the GMs to move you PAST the MC camp straight to the capital yards!!!
Is the North the new goons?
This is definetly not like the OV I used to know :(
wow.... serious i'm speechless...
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:55:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Crucifier
You realise your in a slave alliance the rest of eve looks down upon?
Are you only in burn eden b/c of what other people think of them?
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Frygok
Minmatar
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:00:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Ziplock
Point to this whole sharade is that it was the coalition that started all the cheastbeating and acting like they won something just by putting the tower into reinforce and then failing to capitalise on that.
No offense, but if you really want to look at charades and chestbeating you should look at all those BOB posts before the war who stated "D2 is NOTHING" and "You are already dead. You just don't know it yet". How is that for chestbeating?
Ofcourse, it's easier to forget that if those you don't sympathise with does it aswell.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:05:00 -
[258]
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 16/03/2007 10:01:31
Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: Ziplock
Point to this whole sharade is that it was the coalition that started all the cheastbeating and acting like they won something just by putting the tower into reinforce and then failing to capitalise on that.
No offense, but if you really want to look at charades and chestbeating you should look at all those BOB posts before the war who stated "D2 is NOTHING" and "You are already dead. You just don't know it yet". How is that for chestbeating?
Ofcourse, it's easier to forget that if those you don't sympathise with does it aswell.
Frygok I think that Ziplock was refering to posts like this in this thread only but you're right no side in this conflict has been immune from having chest beating posts on the forums. The less "we're going to" and the more "we've done" posts the better for COAD in general I think.
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Frygok
Minmatar
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:12:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 16/03/2007 10:01:31
Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: Ziplock
Point to this whole sharade is that it was the coalition that started all the cheastbeating and acting like they won something just by putting the tower into reinforce and then failing to capitalise on that.
No offense, but if you really want to look at charades and chestbeating you should look at all those BOB posts before the war who stated "D2 is NOTHING" and "You are already dead. You just don't know it yet". How is that for chestbeating?
Ofcourse, it's easier to forget that if those you don't sympathise with does it aswell.
Frygok I think that Ziplock was refering to posts like this in this thread only but you're right no side in this conflict has been immune from having chest beating posts on the forums. The less "we're going to" and the more "we've done" posts the better for COAD in general I think.
Exactly. Sadly it's too often people who not in the actual conflict who is spewing utter crap.
A D2 member did do some chestbeating, granted. But after the fight, several D2 members came on to the forums and congratulated MC for a very well-established defense, making them switching plans. And MC replied gracefully.
Yet somehow, other people just continue down the road of "Lol, u suck" and "We > you!". What is the point in that? Those who actually were there congratulating MC for a job well done.
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Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:15:00 -
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Thread cleaned. Please avoid posting without corp/alliance tickers, and keep it on a civil level.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:18:00 -
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Just to reinforce this post.
Neither side seriously wanted to jump into the other. It would have been certain node death, and annihilation for the side jumping in.
Hopefully the nodes will get more hamsters and we can get some decent pew pew in.
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:21:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Xeliya
Edited by: Xeliya on 16/03/2007 02:50:59
Just so you guys no there was no Titan in MC space so don't say you diverted because you didn't want to be DD'ed. Also CCP had reinforced all the nodes around there before hand so they would hopefully keep up.
Wait what, this is possible now? I'm sure LV feel very glad ccp will gladly reinforce nodes for mc/bob, but not for them.
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hantwo
S.A.S
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:27:00 -
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when all is said and done its just a shame a game can't be played because of lag / server issues.
i'm sure both sides would have prefered to fight each other than try and fight the lag.
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0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya
Also don't wear stabs . . . Kinda sad you warped out with a point on you and so did a few of your other BS's.
The "you fit stabs in fights!" thing died a few months back Xeliya. The joke tends to be on the person throwing the accusations these days. Stop trolling for arguments sake.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Manfred Sideous
We need to take time out and give respect to the true power of todays battle.
The Osprey
Ospreys ftw! Sitting next to a POS as it comes out of reinforced, with shield transfers churning... ahh so relaxing
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sakana
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:54:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Xeliya
What the North is attacking again when no one is home
YouWhat?
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.16 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
Just to reinforce this post.
Neither side seriously wanted to jump into the other. It would have been certain node death, and annihilation for the side jumping in.
Hopefully the nodes will get more hamsters and we can get some decent pew pew in.
Speak for yourself. I know that we were all 'chomping at the bit' for some action.
So after the intel came in that a few of your guys got lost with the directions we decided to go take it out on some goonies :)
Next time you send out invitations for a party, please make sure you at least show up. It was rather rude to say the least.
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.16 11:18:00 -
[268]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected])
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.16 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Xeliya
Also don't wear stabs . . . Kinda sad you warped out with a point on you and so did a few of your other BS's.
The "you fit stabs in fights!" thing died a few months back Xeliya. The joke tends to be on the person throwing the accusations these days. Stop trolling for arguments sake.
Actually I had the priviledge of some fights with KIATolon and friends and they do often wear stabs in fleets afaik... but thats neither here or there of course...
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 11:43:00 -
[270]
For an update, before DT ~20 AAA & RA Dreads + Carriers and Mother ships jumped into L5D.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 11:51:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Xeliya
Also don't wear stabs . . . Kinda sad you warped out with a point on you and so did a few of your other BS's.
The "you fit stabs in fights!" thing died a few months back Xeliya. The joke tends to be on the person throwing the accusations these days. Stop trolling for arguments sake.
Actually I had the priviledge of some fights with KIATolon and friends and they do often wear stabs in fleets afaik... but thats neither here or there of course...
I always fit stabs to my sniping megathron, I get jammed ALL the time though and can never lock the enemy :(
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.16 11:56:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Lord XSiV
So after the intel came in that a few of your guys got lost with the directions we decided to go take it out on some goonies :)
Next time you send out invitations for a party, please make sure you at least show up. It was rather rude to say the least.
Now that's funny.
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Seryius
3B Legio IX
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:07:00 -
[273]
I hope CCP have been blessing the nodes for the next days, we'll see some great battles!!!
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Frances Ducoir
Academy of Decadence
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:16:00 -
[274]
Originally by: RaBbLe66
Lets see
LV defend JV1 with 450 people , the coalition bring enough people to take in those 450, the node crashes and the coalition gets slammed on the forums for even trying...
BoB has 600 people waiting in the ship yard systems, the coalition doesnt have enough to be sure of taking the system, and to be sure, the amount of people they would have to bring would crash the node, so they dont attack.. and get flamed on the forums for not trying.
Damned if they do, and Damned if they dont..
I find it funny that many of those who criticised RAGOON for attacking JV1 in such numbers are now flaming the coalition for not doing it again.. Hypocrites..
everybody who is a "little bit" too much biased in here should think about this
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CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:25:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 16/03/2007 00:14:34
Originally by: Seleene
We were all fired up...
Then it seems the Coalition decided to invade FIX again.
Shipyard reparied. We're on the move. Pew pew!
I will address Seleene, as unlike some (most) people in this forum, he actually knows what is going on.
First off, I am impressed by your organisation, you pulled in numbers from everywhere. Huge amount of capitals, and huge support, props to you for that.
However, it does show that you take us seriously now
You did need those numbers, and the assault was indeed diverted. I am sure you will want to flame us, but we chose not to fight a sensless lag battle, losses would have been great on both sides. I am sure you saw a little of our capital fleet, and now know what to expect.
Second...after seeing your impressive efforts to bring devastating firepower to the field...we chose to switch targets, other POS were put in reinf I am sure you have fall back plans as well...
Bottom line is...we suffered insignifigant losses, and so did you.
You guys were well prepared and up to speed, nice job.
Can you sustain those numbers
I am fairly sure that is the most capital ships deployed in one engagement, ...around 250 ready to rock, for their cause. Amazing stuff
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Edit: Ziplock...why do you need to Troll? Were you ganked recently perhaps, or maybe, like many of the trolls..you feel left out.
Maybe you need a hug
Ya know after reading this post, and thinking about how badly ASCN did against BoB I have to say good job. The ego behind alot of char can cause some massive problems for an alliance, and if this was a reasoned decision based on the the oppositions response then i have to congratulate you on a very wise decision. the bottom line is that based on what im hearing about MCs response was to the threat to their ship yards, the only logical response would have been to call off the assault. Basically I apologize for my earlier post. 
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RaBbLe66
Amarr
Amarr Dissidents Club
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:29:00 -
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Well L5D- (MC capital shipyard system) looks like the place to be if you want a fight..
53 ships destroyed since Down Time, and rumours of Cap fleet fights abound. Also rumours -unconfirmed- of BoB suffering at the hands of Doomsday..
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:30:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Dekiri
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
I'm sure they have smarter people in the coalition then this, but if not we may be NPC'ing in Branch before then end of the mounth.
The pot will boil over soon, I hope I'm home for the fireworks.
wrong. History of eve has several examples of alliances completely loosing all assets, yet they still fight. to cause an alliances members to stop wanting to log on and fight? that is the most important victory. the bottom line is that D2 played this very smart, and no amount of smack will change that
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Helina Malinos
Caldari
Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:31:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Fry Fortune
Originally by: Xeliya
Edited by: Xeliya on 16/03/2007 02:50:59
Just so you guys no there was no Titan in MC space so don't say you diverted because you didn't want to be DD'ed. Also CCP had reinforced all the nodes around there before hand so they would hopefully keep up.
Wait what, this is possible now? I'm sure LV feel very glad ccp will gladly reinforce nodes for mc/bob, but not for them.
Are all Goons as stupid as you?
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RaBbLe66
Amarr
Amarr Dissidents Club
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:31:00 -
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Also now rumour that one of MC cap shipyards has been destroyed..- (assume the one that came out of re-inforced right on DT)
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: MrsMurphy on 16/03/2007 12:29:45
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CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:34:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Dekiri
Edited by: Dekiri on 16/03/2007 00:14:39
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Dekiri
It is actually not as dumb as it looks. The war wont be won by crushing fleets it will either be won by making people's online time **** and reducing their will to log on or by making BoB crumble from within. Now what is more likely?
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
I'm sure they have smarter people in the coalition then this, but if not we may be NPC'ing in Branch before then end of the mounth.
The pot will boil over soon, I hope I'm home for the fireworks.
Taking pos into reinforced = quick and relativly easy if timed well, but preparing for defense and recharging is more effort and way more boring. You know that and I know that.
Whatever it means I was just adding a posibility=P
Thinking that by putting POS in to reinforce mode will make BoB not want to log in to the game is even dumber then claiming that BoB is leaving EVE for POTBS. Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.
I think youll like this moviehttp://imdb.com/title/tt0112697/
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Angor
Minmatar
The JORG Corporation
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:35:00 -
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Interesting how this thread has developed over the last few days.
Lets have a toast... To a smack free weekend... and to the eve gods.... may they keep the coming weekends action lag and node-crashing free so we may all have a good fun fight.... :)
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:37:00 -
[283]
MC Shipyard Destroyed by close range RA / AAA dread fleet.
ET set off doomsday. Not clear on # of losses but most seemed to warp out on time.
5 RA / AAA dreads destroyed.
More info as the field clears.
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 00:51:32
I'll break my (un)usual silence of late because this is really worthy of a reply.
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
First off, I am impressed by your organisation, you pulled in numbers from everywhere. Huge amount of capitals, and huge support, props to you for that.
However, it does show that you take us seriously now
M8, as has been stated, we take any such assault seriously. We take any enemy with the size and potential capability of the Coalition seriously. TBH, we were looking forward to tonight like we have few other things. Too many of my members went and saw '300' this weekend I think...
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You did need those numbers, and the assault was indeed diverted. I am sure you will want to flame us, but we chose not to fight a sensless lag battle, losses would have been great on both sides.
Any desire to flame you evaporates with the admission that due to our efforts the attack was diverted. I won't speculate as to what might have happened but I will say it would have been a hell of a fight regardless.
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Second...after seeing your impressive efforts to bring devastating firepower to the field...we chose to switch targets, other POS were put in reinf I am sure you have fall back plans as well...
Yeah, my fall back plan is to get more than three hours of sleep more than two days in a row. Then I'll plan something else that keeps me awake. Oh, the endless cycle of EVE...
My thanks for a clear and honest post from your side's point of view.
Also, thank you to every pilot who showed up tonight, waiting for the node crash and massive gank-fest we all expected. Was a hell of a sight.
respect...
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CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
MC Shipyard Destroyed by close range RA / AAA dread fleet.
ET set off doomsday. Not clear on # of losses but most seemed to warp out on time.
5 RA / AAA dreads destroyed.
More info as the field clears.
wow damn
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prsr
Gallente
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:41:00 -
[286]
Originally by: RaBbLe66
Lets see
LV defend JV1 with 450 people , the coalition bring enough people to take in those 450, the node crashes and the coalition gets slammed on the forums for even trying...
Nice try. The fight never took place (contrary to what CCP suggested in their slashdot interview). Wether or not the forum coalition brought enough people is something nobody will ever know. Obviously from LV's perspective they could have brought triple the numbers they had and they still wouldn't have been able to get a support fleet into the system.
Originally by: RaBbLe66
BoB has 600 people waiting in the ship yard systems, the coalition doesnt have enough to be sure of taking the system, and to be sure, the amount of people they would have to bring would crash the node, so they dont attack.. and get flamed on the forums for not trying.
Your problem is that you care to much for what people say on this forum. There are only a few useful things said here and the rest is tinfoilhattery with little to no basis in reality as has been demonstrated since the so-called scandal.
Originally by: RaBbLe66
I find it funny that many of those who criticised RAGOON for attacking JV1 in such numbers are now flaming the coalition for not doing it again.. Hypocrites..
Don't make things up. Nobody in any position of importance within LV ever cared about the specific number of people that the enemy was bringing, we were all quite happy to kill many times our numbers if the game had let us. The meatgrinder was setup and ready to go regardless of hostile numbers. The problem in JV1V was CCP's broken game and their outright denial and refusal to acknowledge specific gamemechanics that can be exploited when a system is under heavy load.
Originally by: Frances Ducoir
everybody who is a "little bit" too much biased in here should think about this
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Lucita Thoron
Minmatar
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lucita Thoron on 16/03/2007 12:43:18
Edited by: Lucita Thoron on 16/03/2007 12:41:12
Originally by: Ziplock
OK... i want to apologise(NOT) if someone found our banner offensive. but that has nothing to do with this thread.
Point to this whole sharade is that it was the coalition that started all the cheastbeating and acting like they won something just by putting the tower into reinforce and then failing to capitalise on that.
Well, please remember that so called coalition is a group of ppl where probably only few % writes here on forum. If some of them say stupid things we know them and everybody can see who is it (IF they read forums). I dont know what some funny ppl write here about 'coalition victory' but that dosent reflect other ppl thoughts for sure. If its constructive then ok but many times im reading stupid posts from both sides of conflict.
Originally by: Ziplock
I'm, not saying it was wrong to divert your forces to another target... all i was trying to say is that it was wrong to consider you had a victory before you actually get into that fight and doit.
I havent heard about any victory so far. Only small succeses maybe. Personaly i blame ppl who posted such crap about any 'victory'. It seems they have no idea about things that are happening right now.
Originally by: Ziplock
Yes, lag would have been insane, from the ppl that went there lag was insane even without the fleets actually jumping into eachother, but after all this, it seems to me that your only tactic thus far is to provoke bob and then see if they show up or not to defend... if they do then you choose another target. OK, is a good tactic, but you have to realise that eventually you will have to get into a fight like that.
Lag kills fun in this game :( Well as far as i can tell theres always some plan for offensive and someone said it was done succesfuly.
I personaly think it was succes that coaliton foced BoB and friends to gather such force and defend systems. It was point in plan and it was done, small succes, road to big succes or big failure.
Im waiting for fight with everyone else from both sides. Im just a solider here, having trust in my commanders. Time will come to fight. You cant blame commander that hes making decisions which you dont like - maybe he knows something more than you. Simple army / combat rules. But everybody knows that, right? Or maybe not and it comes to point where offensive looks like this : grab whatever you can, go to system x, attack, die :)
Originally by: Ziplock
Now, betting that bob will not show up to defend against the coalition not showing up to attack in a coordinated coherent manner is a mistake imho.
But it was expected. Anyway, anyone who can THINK will figure that out. Just dont listen to some ppl who have no idea what they are saying.
Originally by: Ziplock
It is nice to see some coalition members faling back to reason after the flames and ranting but is a bit late for that now. You will have to WTFPWN BOB as you promissed, as you bragged on countless posts.
You can't wait 10 years until you can have a 500/500 man lag free fight. bob called your bluff now all you have to do is pay up or fold
Paitence can be bleased. Its a big conflict. I wonder what would you do in many situations. Fight will come.
Well if someone promised to 'WTFPWN BOB' then go ask him to do that. I wasnt promising anything to anyone and neither any of my corp mates if i remember corectly.
Personaly im happy that i can teake some BoB time, roam around, be in fleet etc, be in delve/fountain, in BoB teritory. It means something and its afecting enemy somehow. I hope we will have many good fights and a lot of fun. No hate, peace and love! GF to everyone involved.
PS. Im sorry for my bad english.
"In ancient times they had no statistics so they had to fall back on lies."
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VinceNoir
Amarr
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:45:00 -
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Remarkably lag free fun fight.
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:46:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Heptameron
Just to add a snippet more info about last night the Razor gang headed down to delve to join up with our northern friends. Lag got progressively worse as we approached the target area. Intel came in of the reception laid on for us, and we fully expected to get a fight out of this.
I think maybe 2 jumps from the target system, we met up with an iron fleet, maybe around 240 in local at the time and everything went screwy. Everyone tried to log back in, failed, petitioned CCP to be moved to another system (or on top of MC cap yards would have been nice!), failed (looked like some sort of auto message or 1 guy going nuts with copy/paste). After about an hour GM's replied area being fixed.
Same time scouts in surrounding areas (they had managed to stay in game) reported sizeable BoB fleet inbound. Now heres the important bit for the nubtards who think we should have fought and are busy beating their chests from behind the rather large BoB safety net kindly provided by your masters.... Not everyone was still able to log in simultaneously, people were spread across systems and some had logged out of frustration, so co-ordination had gone out of the window to a large extent.
So let's recap so you don't lose the point here.... mahoosive fleet in target system just waiting for coalition to jump in. coalition forces split, reduced considerably because of login problems, and now when they are starting to log in they have a roaming bob fleet taking advantage of the situation and just picking up opportunity kills. (No complaints there, we nearly all CTD'd at a gate and we would do the same if the roles were reversed).
Now given all that you are picking holes in our failure to attack? I do beleive there's a call for a 'get a clue' skill and some of you should try gettin that to lvl 5 before you post on topics you obviously have no idea about.
/rant off
ouch. that very sucks. i heard this was a requirement for that skill http://imdb.com/title/tt0112697/
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The Knight
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:46:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Seleene
2007.03.16 12:07:28 Combat Evil Thug [RAT.]<.-A-.>(Erebus) hits you, doing 49218.8 damage.
Sheesh..A DD so powerful, it will even shut up some of the smacktards in this forum.
Thanks for the update.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:50:00 -
[291]
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:54:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
Sorry for your losses, but still awesome job ET, give em hell
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Bigfood
Gallente
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:54:00 -
[293]
Good work Coalition and thanks to our allies!!
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:54:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
We watched each one of the go out of siege at least once because we were calling points on them. Lag was very random, but it was no worse for us.
What was your DD kill count?
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:55:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
And one Moros and lots of capsules did log on log off log on log off constantly .. LOL I suppose that counts as surviving due to game mechanics. Lamers.
Myn
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:03:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 16/03/2007 12:54:20
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
And one Moros and lots of capsules did log on log off log on log off constantly .. LOL I suppose that counts as surviving due to game mechanics. Lamers.
CCP ... any chance of an exponential backoff algorithm applied to repeated longs to counter exploiters like these?
Myn
Lamers or not, we came to your home.*snip* Clear ?
Seleene. 27 killmails. 10+ battleships i guess.
BUHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:04:00 -
[297]
I swear that if another MC member mouths off in this thread or any other that you'll be on POS fueling duty for a year.
Originally by: Evil Thug
Lamers or not, we came to your home*snip*. Clear ?
Come on, ET. Rise above this *snip*, m8. You did good and so did we. Let's leave it at that.
Please don't try to evade the profanity-filter. -Ivan K
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KIATolon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:05:00 -
[298]
What was building seleene?
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:06:00 -
[299]
Yes, it was destroyed.
Russians always get job done.
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:07:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Angor
So can we confirm the ship yards are DESTROYED not in reinforced etc.
One POS went down and the other survived.
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ER0X
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:07:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Seleene
We watched each one of the go out of siege at least once because we were calling points on them. Lag was very random, but it was no worse for us.
What was your DD kill count?
I can confirm SeeleneÆs account of the situation. The dreads did initiate siege cycles lost points on them as they did. Had to lock a point on them when they came out.
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RaBbLe66
Amarr
Amarr Dissidents Club
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:07:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 16/03/2007 12:59:11
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
And one Moros and lots of capsules did log on log off log on log off constantly .. LOL I suppose that counts as surviving due to game mechanics. Lamers.
CCP ... any chance of an exponential backoff algorithm applied to repeated log ons to counter exploiters like these?
Myn
Shame I remember when used to respect MC for being awesome PvPers and being above smack talk in local and on the forums, guess MC are descending down to the level of most alliances now..
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OozoO
Caldari
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:07:00 -
[303]
Originally by: KIATolon
What was building seleene?
yeah, thats the magic question, but we will never know I guess
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arjun
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:09:00 -
[304]
gratulation on a job we northerners would just have loved to do ourself.
lets just hope it was worth the losses and something juicy was in there.
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Zorg Vanquishman
Amarr
Fix Holding Company
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:10:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Yes, it was destroyed.
Russians always get job done.
So Losing 10 billion to do 8 bill dmg?
*snip - leave that out of this discussion please. -Ivan K
Bonus Advice = Read up on economics
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:10:00 -
[306]
Edited by: Powdder on 16/03/2007 13:09:07
Originally by: RaBbLe66
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 16/03/2007 12:59:11
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
no reason for that. ease off there brotha....
And one Moros and lots of capsules did log on log off log on log off constantly .. LOL I suppose that counts as surviving due to game mechanics. Lamers.
CCP ... any chance of an exponential backoff algorithm applied to repeated log ons to counter exploiters like these?
Myn
Shame I remember when used to respect MC for being awesome PvPers and being above smack talk in local and on the forums, guess MC are descending down to the level of most alliances now..
no need for that. every alliance has a few unsavory types.
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:13:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Zorg Vanquishman
Originally by: Evil Thug
Yes, it was destroyed.
Russians always get job done.
So Losing 10 billion to do 8 bill dmg?
Now I see why Russia so poor
Bonus Advice = Read up on economics
You should not forget the capital it was building. Thats at least another billion lost. and in addition to that 10+ BS which is at least another 2 billion.
Originally by: Cipher7
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Faceless Pokemon
United Earth Directorate
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:14:00 -
[308]
So was this a different POS to the one that was defended last night or the same?
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:14:00 -
[309]
Edited by: Xeliya on 16/03/2007 02:50:59
Just so you guys no there was no Titan in MC space so don't say you diverted because you didn't want to be DD'ed. Also CCP had reinforced all the nodes around there before hand so they would hopefully keep up.
So, why were out pilots taking upto 5 minutes to jump?
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:15:00 -
[310]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected])
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ALPHA12125
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:16:00 -
[311]
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Edited by: Xeliya on 16/03/2007 02:50:59
Just so you guys no there was no Titan in MC space so don't say you diverted because you didn't want to be DD'ed. Also CCP had reinforced all the nodes around there before hand so they would hopefully keep up.
So, why were out pilots taking upto 5 minutes to jump?
5 minutes better than nodecrash so its an improvement
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Amy Blue
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:16:00 -
[312]
grats RA/AAA
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Alizeee
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:16:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 16/03/2007 12:54:20
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
And one Moros and lots of capsules did log on log off log on log off constantly .. LOL I suppose that counts as surviving due to game mechanics. Lamers.
CCP ... any chance of an exponential backoff algorithm applied to repeated longs to counter exploiters like these?
Myn
Lamers or not, we came to your home.*snip* - keep it civil. -Ivan K Clear ?
Seleene. 27 killmails. 10+ battleships i guess.
TBH the wife *****blablablawhatever****** you!
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:24:00 -
[314]
Edited by: Evil Thug on 16/03/2007 13:25:39
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
Thanks alot for honest confirmation of your loss. Respect.
As for my forum spree. I`m nice guy with people, who is standing up to their words. Also, i always able to talk with bigmouth using their language.
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WRWR
Amarr
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:28:00 -
[315]
\o/
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:31:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
Just shows what class acts the MC are. Any other alliance would keep that a secret and deny it to the bitter end.
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:32:00 -
[317]
Thankyou to Seleene for actually handing over information no one in the coalition had.
Its always good to see MC fight hard in the field and its good to see the discipline and no bull**** approach carrys over to the forums.
Thankyou for the clear updates.
Dear everyone else on both sides... learn from this example and the respect that it attracts...
Originally by: Dr Cupid
Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
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Mandala Group
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:32:00 -
[318]
Edited by: Anaximander Monk on 16/03/2007 13:31:10
Well executed strike, cossacks.
And keep your chin up MC.. its a real shame you've been dragged into the politics of the war, I think. If I had some space I'd let you live there in peace and harmony so you could pillage freely abroad without comitments
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Manfred Sideous
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:33:00 -
[319]
Seleene your all aces pal!!!
/Salute
RA & AAA Ty for the fun fight!!!
Note to Self: Equip Thermal Hardner next time
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Harrison Fraud
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:34:00 -
[320]
The FIX guy who said "Learn Economics" must be feeling rather silly right now. And the other one who claimed that it was empty...
Yet more examples of people (from both sides, i might add) speaking without any idea of the facts.
Grats to all involved. And respect to Selenee for the honest appraisal - would have been far easier to have denied taking any major loss.
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:34:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
I can only say that i have &%")loads of respect for you, Seleene, ppl like you gives this game still hope
Oh and GJ AAA/RA
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Teron D'Amun
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:41:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Harrison Fraud
The FIX guy who said "Learn Economics" must be feeling rather silly right now. And the other one who claimed that it was empty...
Yet more examples of people (from both sides, i might add) speaking without any idea of the facts.
tbh if Seleene hadn't stepped forward to admit the loss (respect for that) we would see endless accusations flying around here for ages
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hantwo
S.A.S
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:43:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
i'll add my voice to the list
respect for coming out and saying, enjoy the rest of the battle
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Sniperpirate
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:44:00 -
[324]
1 pos destroyed by coalition! \0/
1 pos saved by mc \0/
....bit late but last nite even tho mc reped the pos very quickly...i just wanted a fight for the hell of it :) pew pew makes me happy
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:51:00 -
[325]
Edited by: Powdder on 16/03/2007 13:48:47
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 16/03/2007 12:59:11
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: VinceNoir
Remarkably lag free fun fight.
1 dred - Bigmaman from SDG was killed in fair fight.
4 RAT dreds expirienced freeze screen. They were just unable to turn off their siege module, hence they were unable to jump when i cleared battlefield from scrambling frigates.
Thats life i guess
And one Moros and lots of capsules did log on log off log on log off constantly .. LOL I suppose that counts as surviving due to game mechanics. Lamers.
CCP ... any chance of an exponential backoff algorithm applied to repeated log ons to counter exploiters like these?
Myn
after this i almost feel bad for this guy
props for apology btw, even if it was forced.
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:52:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
Props for honest report Seleene.
I don't profess to know anything about capital contruction yards but what happen to the BPO when they are popped I'm guessing that is lost also?
Well done in the finishing the job to our Russian friends in AAA/RA :)
gee
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arjun
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:53:00 -
[327]
bpo is in the station
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Minas Reul
Dark Horizons
Red Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:57:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
Good of you to clarify that Seleene. Us spectators like to know the details.
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:57:00 -
[329]
Originally by: arjun
bpo is in the station
Ty learn something new everyday :)
gee
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:00:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Seleene
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
Thanks alot for honest confirmation of your loss. Respect.
Agreed.
Its a loss. Not truly massive one, but a loss, and respect goes to those who admit it rather than try to cover it up.
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EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard |
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Shinjuro
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:04:00 -
[331]
Thanks for the honest reply sel.
Nice work aAa/RA/whoever else
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Damian Vilsalant
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:12:00 -
[332]
Yeah thx for the fun to all ppl involved! I hope to repeat soon.. but this time at one of your POSes
cheers
damian |
Reservoir Dog
Free Space Tech
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:20:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Damian Vilsalant
Yeah thx for the fun to all ppl involved! I hope to repeat soon.. but this time at one of your POSes
cheers
damian
Herrscher der Zeit already had a chance to do this. When RA/GS was fighting V/LV. Instead of this HDZ just disappeared from the area.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:25:00 -
[334]
if people got a fight, u all got ur moneys worth, but mainly just wanted to say 0/ wrwr swin is going inactive till rl issues sorted, and wanted to say its been fun all them years ago and wish I cold have been there for that one.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:36:00 -
[335]
Good job ET & Co.
Shamis
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KIATolon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:37:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
Respect. Look forward to many fights.
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:43:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
props for a honest summary.
Gj RA/AAA
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:46:00 -
[338]
Congrats to all
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Above comments are my personal views
Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.03.16 15:11:00 -
[339]
3 Cheers for RA & -AAA- for a job well done, and 3 cheers for Seleene for taking defeat in a true sporting fashion.
*THAT* attitude is what this game needs more of :)
Ahem. Now I need go troll something....
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Duke Grail
Darkblade Technologies
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.16 15:29:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Seleene
a clear, consise, honest, and to the point post
+5 respect to Seleene and MC
/me wishes i could get on some capital ship kills
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.03.16 15:30:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
afaik the shipyard was empty but i love how you count 10+ battleships as 2 billion isk dude. Magic word Insurance.
Originally by: Seleene
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
As you can see from the responses after Sel's post, honesty brings respect in this war.
Its also something that seems to be a strong unifing force in the Coalition and its will to defeat BoB and their allies.
Best Regards,
Taur
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Damian Vilsalant
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.16 15:36:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Reservoir Dog
Originally by: Damian Vilsalant
Yeah thx for the fun to all ppl involved! I hope to repeat soon.. but this time at one of your POSes
cheers
damian
Herrscher der Zeit already had a chance to do this. When RA/GS was fighting V/LV. Instead of this HDZ just disappeared from the area.
Mate that was ages ago when we were only a single corp doing our thing down there - and actually we gave RA a fight as long as was humanly possible. We changed our corp structure long ago and as a member of a 0.0 alliance you can imagine that many things must have changed since then. Half the ppl from back then are not even in the corp anymore - as you may have noticed we are not even HDZ anymore. So hell.. what should i say? See you on the battlefield.
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Valkazm
Amarr
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 15:57:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Saleia
Originally by: Taurequis
As you can see from the responses after Sel's post, honesty brings respect in this war.
Its also something that seems to be a strong unifing force in the Coalition and its will to defeat BoB and their allies.
Best Regards,
Taur[/quote
As an outsider. Let me try and understand something.
So your using the fact that MC's truthful post will "defeat BoB and allies"...hmm interesting. Let me spin you back in the correct direction.
i dont get why you people try to spin anything ..
topic is mc shipyards ..
You have gotten all the facts ..
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Valkazm
Amarr
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 15:57:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Saleia
Originally by: Taurequis
As you can see from the responses after Sel's post, honesty brings respect in this war.
Its also something that seems to be a strong unifing force in the Coalition and its will to defeat BoB and their allies.
Best Regards,
Taur[/quote
As an outsider. Let me try and understand something.
So your using the fact that MC's truthful post will "defeat BoB and allies"...hmm interesting. Let me spin you back in the correct direction.
i dont get why you people try to spin anything ..
topic is mc shipyards ..
You have gotten all the facts ..
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Serilla
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:01:00 -
[345]
Sounds like a good fight 
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Serilla
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:01:00 -
[346]
Sounds like a good fight
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:06:00 -
[347]
Edited by: Taurequis on 16/03/2007 16:05:45
Originally by: Saleia
Originally by: Taurequis
As you can see from the responses after Sel's post, honesty brings respect in this war.
ItÆs also something that seems to be a strong unifying force in the Coalition and its will to defeat BoB and their allies.
Best Regards,
Taur
As an outsider. Let me try and understand something.
So your using the fact that MC's truthful post will "defeat BoB and allies"...hmm interesting. Let me spin you back in the correct direction.
Hiya,
I don't think you understood what i wrote. Saying that its not spot on correct grammer, but hey i'm tired and at work. Lets just move on shall we and continue the gf spirit.
Best Regards,
Taur
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:06:00 -
[348]
Edited by: Taurequis on 16/03/2007 16:05:45
Originally by: Saleia
Originally by: Taurequis
As you can see from the responses after Sel's post, honesty brings respect in this war.
ItÆs also something that seems to be a strong unifying force in the Coalition and its will to defeat BoB and their allies.
Best Regards,
Taur
As an outsider. Let me try and understand something.
So your using the fact that MC's truthful post will "defeat BoB and allies"...hmm interesting. Let me spin you back in the correct direction.
Hiya,
I don't think you understood what i wrote. Saying that its not spot on correct grammer, but hey i'm tired and at work. Lets just move on shall we and continue the gf spirit.
Best Regards,
Taur
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:17:00 -
[349]
if only the coalition had someone that was as truthfull as seleene .
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:17:00 -
[350]
if only the coalition had someone that was as truthfull as seleene .
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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:18:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
I apologize to Evil Thug and AAA/RA for my outburst and insult.
Now now it's ok.
Seleene knows very well that AAA are all MC alts.
No need to get all angry and stuff, we'll just go do some veldspar mining in Agil, alltogether, as always.
p.s. I have the right to touch MC's #1 Dutchmen Aeon pilot.
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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:18:00 -
[352]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
I apologize to Evil Thug and AAA/RA for my outburst and insult.
Now now it's ok.
Seleene knows very well that AAA are all MC alts.
No need to get all angry and stuff, we'll just go do some veldspar mining in Agil, alltogether, as always.
p.s. I have the right to touch MC's #1 Dutchmen Aeon pilot.
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Spawck
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:21:00 -
[353]
Well, I got to tell you, after having fought MC in the north a little, fought them in the south now, and seeing the quality of their leadership, I have to put them at the top of my list of large alliances for gaining my respect.
We are obviously out to get MC, but in our attempts to do so, MC has gained great respect. Even though they may not want to publicly admit it, many of my alliance members share my respect.
Cudo's to MC. See you on the battlefield!
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Spawck
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:21:00 -
[354]
Well, I got to tell you, after having fought MC in the north a little, fought them in the south now, and seeing the quality of their leadership, I have to put them at the top of my list of large alliances for gaining my respect.
We are obviously out to get MC, but in our attempts to do so, MC has gained great respect. Even though they may not want to publicly admit it, many of my alliance members share my respect.
Cudo's to MC. See you on the battlefield!
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:22:00 -
[355]
Okay this is for you stupid BoB alt ****s, who think our sole purpose is to crash the node. In order to win blob wars you have to out blob your oponent. DUH! So yes, we are going to bring a **** load of people to kill your **** load. Second, we want to kill the POS. Not lag out and crash the node so all we can do is look at a black screen, while the shields recharge themselves. I cant believe you guys think we actually want this. Blob war fare needs to go the way of the dodo bird. Into extinction. Until then, shut yer hole, cause we want a fight as much as BoD and MC do. We do not want to crash the damn node that cant handle the BoD force in one system alone, much less both sides.
WildCat
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:22:00 -
[356]
Okay this is for you stupid BoB alt ****s, who think our sole purpose is to crash the node. In order to win blob wars you have to out blob your oponent. DUH! So yes, we are going to bring a **** load of people to kill your **** load. Second, we want to kill the POS. Not lag out and crash the node so all we can do is look at a black screen, while the shields recharge themselves. I cant believe you guys think we actually want this. Blob war fare needs to go the way of the dodo bird. Into extinction. Until then, shut yer hole, cause we want a fight as much as BoD and MC do. We do not want to crash the damn node that cant handle the BoD force in one system alone, much less both sides.
WildCat
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:33:00 -
[357]
brains & strategy > outblobbing and brute force.
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:33:00 -
[358]
brains & strategy > outblobbing and brute force.
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Kay Brack
Gallente
Superior Unified Ruling Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:33:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if only the coalition had someone that was as truthfull as seleene .
Look for the explanation by the D2 commander Flinx Evenstar following the earlier defense of the shipyards system. Both Seleene and Flinx Evenstar had very professional posts that are somewhat lost in the amount of speculation/spam.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:34:00 -
[360]
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/03/2007 16:34:09
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/03/2007 16:33:22
Originally by: The Beatnuts
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
I apologize to Evil Thug and AAA/RA for my outburst and insult.
p.s. I have the right to touch MC's #1 Dutchmen Aeon pilot.
It wasn't fun to know what was in that thing and not being able to be there due to serious RL commitments. We made a gamble and paid for it. Our friends and us tried as hard as possible to make the adversaries pay for their attack and I'm proud of what we have done this afternoon.
It's a minor setback in the larger scale of things, but still it's a lot of ISK to go down the drain. :) Just think of what got destroyed there in a couple of minutes.. An almost finished Hel (15-30b, depending on your perception), 5 dreads (10-25b, depending on your perception) and a tower with mods worth 5b. Gosh, an expensive day for EVE. :)
Down with inflation! :)
I hauled minerals for that Mothership though! Damn you all! That's a lot of hauling ffs!
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:36:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Zorg Vanquishman
Originally by: Evil Thug
Yes, it was destroyed.
Russians always get job done.
So Losing 10 billion to do 8 bill dmg?
*snip - leave that out of this discussion please. -Ivan K
Bonus Advice = Read up on economics
Some people just can't wait to make themselves look silly. Your zeal to smack has not served you well. Sic semper smacktardis.
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Baun
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:36:00 -
[362]
I am glad strad didn't get his Hel, that would have been scary :P. I was a bit worried it was already out and he just hadn't shown it yet actually.
Sounds like a fun time and alot of respect to AAA and RA for such a well executed operation.
Key question:
Fraps?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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cheru
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:38:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. ...
Thank you, probs and respect! With one post you've swept away my doubts about the sanity of MC, COAD in general and if there are still great people left who _play_ Eve.
I wish all sides lots of fun and pewpew. Kill them all, whoever you are! :D
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:40:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
brains & strategy > outblobbing and brute force.
Perhaps on the forums, meanwhile on Tranquility...
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:41:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if only the coalition had someone that was as truthfull as seleene .
It does. I'm not sure where you get off suggesting otherwise.
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Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:43:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Baun
I am glad strad didn't get his Hel, that would have been scary :P. I was a bit worried it was already out and he just hadn't shown it yet actually.
Sounds like a fun time and alot of respect to AAA and RA for such a well executed operation.
Key question:
Fraps?
Even tho i am on the same side of MC this time, strad in a Hel still scares me... I saw strad take down a dread with a crow once! True story.. Imagine what he can do in a mom.
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prsr
Gallente
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:48:00 -
[367]
Edited by: prsr on 16/03/2007 16:55:17
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Just shows what class acts the MC are. Any other alliance would keep that a secret and deny it to the bitter end.
I think you'll find thats not the case by far. And even if an alliance did, they might have perfectly good strategic reasons for doing so. Why would you drag so many players and alliances through the mud by suggesting something like that?
In the case of MC, it's no secret that they have a formidable capital fleet with several motherships already, so there's no real harm in telling everyone that another MS was being constructed.
Besides, maybe it was a titan. You don't know. All you know is that Seleene said it was a MS.
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Valentine Keen
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:57:00 -
[368]
Congrats to AAA/RA for the fight. I am friends with alot of you guys and I am so proud to see you accomplished something like this!
Also props to Selene who proves that even though I don't agree with his position in the war, he is one of the few leaders out there with class.
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prsr
Gallente
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:59:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Orree
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if only the coalition had someone that was as truthfull as seleene .
It does. I'm not sure where you get off suggesting otherwise.
Really? Who is this person, and why hasn't he or she posted on these forums yet?
Btw, Seleene is a nice guy but his post is not really all that special, I've seen Blacklight and other bob FC's clarifying in mostly neutral wording what went on in-game on these forums plenty of times too. Of course that was in the pre-tinfoilhat era.
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Quillan Rage
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:04:00 -
[370]
Hey Selene, whilst you are being so open and honest, can you tell us what you are cooking at the other POS that the coalition didn't manage to pop
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Quillan Rage
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:08:00 -
[371]
Originally by: prsr
Edited by: prsr on 16/03/2007 17:00:49
Originally by: Orree
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if only the coalition had someone that was as truthfull as seleene .
It does. I'm not sure where you get off suggesting otherwise.
Really? Who is this person, and why hasn't he or she posted on these forums yet?
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Blight1
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:09:00 -
[372]
I feel like i'm playing WoW with all the childish speak... PEW PEW this and PEW PEW that... go away
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Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:13:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Blight1
I feel like i'm playing WoW with all the childish speak... PEW PEW this and PEW PEW that... go away
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:17:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Quillan Rage
Hey Selene, whilst you are being so open and honest, can you tell us what you are cooking at the other POS that the coalition didn't manage to pop
The answer will always be "nothing is building", even to our own members. :)
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:19:00 -
[375]
Originally by: prsr
Edited by: prsr on 16/03/2007 17:00:49
Originally by: Orree
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if only the coalition had someone that was as truthfull as seleene .
It does. I'm not sure where you get off suggesting otherwise.
Really? Who is this person, and why hasn't he or she posted on these forums yet?
Btw, Seleene is a nice guy but his post is not really all that special, I've seen Blacklight and other bob FC's clarifying in mostly neutral wording what went on in-game on these forums plenty of times too. Of course that was in the pre-tinfoilhat era.
There a great many honest people in the Northern Coalition who would not hesitate to be equally as truthful as Seleene apparently has been. MC does not corner the market on honesty, integrity or good sportsmanship. No one can make that claim. Everyone seems to have good people, bad people and smacktards who can't seem to help themselves, all evenly distributed.
Casting aspersions with regard to a lack complete lack of honesty on a given side makes me sick.
I'm actually not sure if you're just kidding or you honestly believe what you're saying. If you truly believe it, then I'd say that's pretty pathetic and sad.
Whether or not Seleene's post is "that special," it's a nice gesture on his part and one that I can assure you would be returned in kind by Morsus Mihi. Generally speaking, people don't put up capital arrays just to leave them empty. Odds are, when one goes down, it was making something.
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Phoenus
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:24:00 -
[376]
Edited by: Phoenus on 16/03/2007 17:20:19
Originally by: Orree
Whether or not Seleene's post is "that special," it's a nice gesture on his part and one that I can assure you would be returned in kind by Morsus Mihi. Generally speaking, people don't put up capital arrays just to leave them empty. Odds are, when one goes down, it was making something.
Actually, your pilots gained my personal respect this morning when we managed to catch a couple of freighters heading out into 0.0. We managed to force one into M-0 (the second made it to Taisy station and docked). The one who jumped into M-O was quickly dispatched of, however he did not log off. Something that is very rare these days.
Respect.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:28:00 -
[377]
A bit more info -
After last night, we figured we would be able to rep the second starbase up without many problems. Due to the tower coming out of reinforced after downtime, we honestly did not expect a serious attempt on it at such an off time of day. Still, we had a decent number of people on and felt okay...
Then a Falcon zoomed through to L5D and popped a cyno. It's unclear how this happened. Not sure if our camp was asleep or what, but the tower came out of reinforced right before DT and 20+ AAA / RA cap ships started pounding on it. They got the shields down to about 10-15% and then DT hit.
I came online about 10 mins before the servers came back up ready to help repair the shields and walked right into, "OMGWTF AAA DREADS EVERYWHERE WAKE UP CAP SHIP PEW PEW!!!"
The tower was screwed. Nothing we could have done would save it, not against 20-25 dreads. All we could do was rally up and make them pay for it.
The servers came back up, we spent about 4-5 mins getting ganged, the AAA dreads showed back up at the tower and we went in. At first we just had a dozen or so BS and a few carriers, then everyone else started to pile on in - Toxin, D-L, EXE, D-R and others. The best part was we had several dictors dropping bubbles like mad. After the first Dread went down (who was away from the main group), we shifted position to go in close range (under 60 km). By now we had several carriers and BS on the scene and I made the slightly insane decision to take my Nyx in with 20+ capital ships still on grid.
By now the tower had popped and the cap array was vapor. No one cared - "Make them pay!"
We got tackles and dictors all over the main group of Dreads. There were at least a dozen of them trapped. I can only assume AAA / RA realized this because Evil Thug, who was in Y-C, jumped in about 100km off the main battle. A couple minutes went by and it was obvious that he was waiting to use his DD until most of the enemy dreads were out of siege. Finally, the screen started to go black.
Most of our ships seemed to get out, we probably lost about 30% of what was on grid. The main point was that the DD killed off all the dictor bubbles and the dreads still not in siege were able to get the hell out of the fire. There were six left on the field. Due to losing a couple dictors and bad timing on shifting scramble points we lost two of them but nailed the other four. It was a smart play by ET and kept us from extracting a larger price for losing the yard.
Oh, one last thing û crappy way to find out but apparently kill mails on starbase towers and modules are in (or was this always there)?
Quote:
2007.03.16 12:00
Alliance: Mercenary Coalition
Corp: Mercenary Coalition Holding Corp
Destroyed: Capital Ship Assembly Array
Moon: L5D-ZL VI - Moon 1
System: L5D-ZL
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Koldyr (laid the final blow)
Security: 2.1
Alliance: Red Alliance
Corp: Solar Dragons
Ship: Moros
Weapon: Dual 1000mm Railgun I
Name: Uvis
Security: 5.0
Alliance: Red Alliance
Corp: Solar Dragons
Ship: Chimera
Weapon: Warden I
Name: d0omer
Security: 4.5
Alliance: Red Alliance
Corp: UA Industry
Ship: Phoenix
Weapon: Citadel Torpedo Launcher I
Okay, to hell with the forums. FOOD!
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prsr
Gallente
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:31:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Orree
Everyone seems to have good people, bad people and smacktards who can't seem to help themselves, all evenly distributed.
Casting aspersions with regard to a lack complete lack of honesty on a given side makes me sick.
I'm actually not sure if you're just kidding or you honestly believe what you're saying. If you truly believe it, then I'd say that's pretty pathetic and sad.
Wait, you start of with explaining that all kinds of people are evenly distributed in all alliances and then you seem to have a real problem with the fact that Bob FC's can be honest too? And you're telling me *I'm* pathetic and sad?
I know the forum coalition thrives on painting one side as pure and undisputed evil, but as you pointed out yourself, thats BS.
Originally by: Orree
Whether or not Seleene's post is "that special," it's a nice gesture on his part and one that I can assure you would be returned in kind by Morsus Mihi. Generally speaking, people don't put up capital arrays just to leave them empty. Odds are, when one goes down, it was making something.
Sure, I agree it's a nice gesture. But don't you start pretending that MC are unique because of it. Because, as I said, even Bob has been known to clarify in-game situations on this board, even if it shows them making mistakes or loosing stuff. New people here might be shocked to hear that, but not half as schocked as most of the vets of this game when the forum coalition started their crusade under obviously false pretenses.
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:32:00 -
[379]
always get a loss mail when your POS goes pop seleene :)
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:35:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Krugerrand
always get a loss mail when your POS goes pop seleene :)
I think this was actually the first MC POS ever to be destroyed to be honest. Other than the one that IAC managed to scoop, I don't think we've ever lost a tower. :)
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:50:00 -
[381]
Edited by: Orree on 16/03/2007 17:49:16
Originally by: prsr
Originally by: Orree
Everyone seems to have good people, bad people and smacktards who can't seem to help themselves, all evenly distributed.
Casting aspersions with regard to a lack complete lack of honesty on a given side makes me sick.
I'm actually not sure if you're just kidding or you honestly believe what you're saying. If you truly believe it, then I'd say that's pretty pathetic and sad.
Wait, you start of with explaining that all kinds of people are evenly distributed in all alliances and then you seem to have a real problem with the fact that Bob FC's can be honest too? And you're telling me *I'm* pathetic and sad?
I know the forum coalition thrives on painting one side as pure and undisputed evil, but as you pointed out yourself, thats BS.
Originally by: Orree
Whether or not Seleene's post is "that special," it's a nice gesture on his part and one that I can assure you would be returned in kind by Morsus Mihi. Generally speaking, people don't put up capital arrays just to leave them empty. Odds are, when one goes down, it was making something.
Sure, I agree it's a nice gesture. But don't you start pretending that MC are unique because of it. Because, as I said, even Bob has been known to clarify in-game situations on this board, even if it shows them making mistakes or loosing stuff. New people here might be shocked to hear that, but not half as schocked as most of the vets of this game when the forum coalition started their crusade under obviously false pretenses.
Honestly...I don't know what you're talking about because I have not questioned the honesty of BoB FCs in these fora.
I have called you onto the carpet for something YOU said. You are now addressing me about something someone else may have said. Clusterbombs are not the right tool for this job, my friend.
I have also not attempted to elevate Seleene's post to anything other than a nice gesture...so I don't know what you're on about there, either.
I have not started nor have I been a part of any "forum crusade." I fight BoB because I have always fought BoB. Nothing that has occured recently or with regard to the "dev cheating" issue has prompted anything new from me, my corp or my alliance.
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Jordan Musgrat
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:53:00 -
[382]
Well, thanks Seleene for telling us, I think that is physically hurting me :p
Could we get a little more flame-trolling here please?
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Puncher
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:56:00 -
[383]
Great report Seleene, always a good read from you...
And absolute respect to AAA/RA for another precision strike, masterfully done even with the losses. The rest of the coalition has a lot to learn from such strategy...
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Isonkon Serikain
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:04:00 -
[384]
I hope we can work again together in the near future :)
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Dogsta
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:05:00 -
[385]
Edited by: Dogsta on 16/03/2007 18:06:48
Originally by: Orree
Edited by: Orree on 16/03/2007 17:49:16
Originally by: prsr
Random aimless flameage
A better responce then i was in the middle of typing, wich is why he is a diplomat
about all I could come up with was nyah nyah!
Much respect to Our Allies!, Much respect to MC and BoB
nuthing for the fanboi alts and or thier pets I am afraid
*A*W*T* 4TW
Member of the Great Northern Napfest
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:11:00 -
[386]
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:23:00 -
[387]
Edited by: dalman on 16/03/2007 18:22:25
Originally by: Seleene
...There were at least a dozen of them trapped. I can only assume AAA / RA realized this because Evil Thug...
I think it's very safe to assume that this was their plan from the beginning. It's a simple fact that a DD clears pretty much all scrambling. I would also assume that they all entered siegemode at the same time initially, for the simple fact that they'd all have to be out of siege at the same time for the plan to work - and that lag/clien freeze indeed is a reason for that you managed to get 5 of them. The introduction of Titans has indeed made it possible to conduct capital ops without a support fleet (which effectively enables full scale surprise capital attacks)(and which also brings us further down the route of 'everyone flying capitals').
This is just one example of the extreme strategic use Titans has in the game, and I've always been ammused by the people in the "titan isn't cost effective" saga. It should by now be clear to everyone that a titan is not an option but a requirement, for any entity that plan to be a major player in claiming space.
Oh, and I'll join the bandwagon and give props for the conduct here after the boom.
Am I forced to have any regret?
I've become the lie, beautiful and free
In my righteous own mind
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Mutant
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:39:00 -
[388]
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
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MACTEP
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:51:00 -
[389]
Edited by: MACTEP on 16/03/2007 18:49:20
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
JUST SHUT UP MORON...
MAY BE RA\RAT "use loggin on right after DT"
While people like you use toilet, gaskets and log off when see RA cap fleet ONLINE.
And then SMACK ON FORUMS - if they lose..
If they win they cry - LAG FREE.....GF....GJ....WE ARE THE BEST.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
MASS HOMICIDE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:51:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
brains & strategy > outblobbing and brute force.
if brute force fails... its because you are not using enough...
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.03.16 19:34:00 -
[391]
Originally by: Lorth
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
Actually it is quite brilliant.
Forcing 600 people to stare at a gate for 4 hours after an opportunistic 15 minute POS assault on an unhardened tower? Repeat x 20?
I mean, you can only rally max numbers so many times before people get sick of the 'crying wolf' effect.
It's boring being played like that. EVE is a game, and boredom is a killer.
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Smelly Kelly
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Posted - 2007.03.16 19:51:00 -
[392]
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
Hey look, it's one of the RA guys who hideously abused the 8/10 angel complex 45 minute respawning end overseer bug for sessions of up to 20+ hours at a time, shouldn't you be banned? That's ccp for you.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 19:54:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Smelly Kelly
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
Hey look, it's one of the RA guys who hideously abused the 8/10 angel complex 45 minute respawning end overseer bug for sessions of up to 20+ hours at a time, shouldn't you be banned? That's ccp for you.
maybe you should get banned.. post with your main
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 19:58:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Smelly Kelly
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
Hey look, it's one of the RA guys who hideously abused the 8/10 angel complex 45 minute respawning end overseer bug for sessions of up to 20+ hours at a time, shouldn't you be banned? That's ccp for you.
Post with your main or STFU.
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Hastrabull
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:09:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Smelly Kelly
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
Hey look, it's one of the RA guys who hideously abused the 8/10 angel complex 45 minute respawning end overseer bug for sessions of up to 20+ hours at a time, shouldn't you be banned? That's ccp for you.
Post with your main or STFU.
Why? Posting with his main will make his post more valuable?
Hastrabull |
Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:09:00 -
[396]
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Smelly Kelly
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
Hey look, it's one of the RA guys who hideously abused the 8/10 angel complex 45 minute respawning end overseer bug for sessions of up to 20+ hours at a time, shouldn't you be banned? That's ccp for you.
Post with your main or STFU.
Why? Posting with his main will make his post more valuable?
:lol: No, prolly not...
Originally by: Cipher7
Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead |
The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:10:00 -
[397]
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Smelly Kelly
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
Hey look, it's one of the RA guys who hideously abused the 8/10 angel complex 45 minute respawning end overseer bug for sessions of up to 20+ hours at a time, shouldn't you be banned? That's ccp for you.
Post with your main or STFU.
Why? Posting with his main will make his post more valuable?
No because we now know that it was just another LV whining about the ass beating he recieved.
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Frygok
Minmatar
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:12:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Smelly Kelly
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
Hey look, it's one of the RA guys who hideously abused the 8/10 angel complex 45 minute respawning end overseer bug for sessions of up to 20+ hours at a time, shouldn't you be banned? That's ccp for you.
Post with your main or STFU.
Why? Posting with his main will make his post more valuable?
No, it would mean that he understands and respects the rules stated by CCP, something that he is accusing others of NOT doing. Get the point?
For all we know, he could be a monkey spamming random buttons, he could be someone who knows nothing about cheating, about the current fighting going, or one of those sad individuals who seems to get a meaning to their life by posting flamebait on forums, and getting high of the attention.
So basically, he should post with his main or stfu. Since his post will be moderated, and it will give the rest of the forum an insight to why he posting such crap, in what for the most part have been a post with mutual respect from the individuals involved.
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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:17:00 -
[399]
oh btw,
seleene, nice report :)
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Firane
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:21:00 -
[400]
Major respect Seleene. I know a few people in Eve who constantly talk as if you are the lamest person/alliance in Eve. Time and time again I can't help but pity their ignorance. You know who you are.
Class.
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:28:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Firane
Major respect Seleene. I know a few people in Eve who constantly talk as if you are the lamest person/alliance in Eve. Time and time again I can't help but pity their ignorance. You know who you are.
Class.
It is too bad the thread degenerated. Oh well that is eve-o.
Since it is now a free for all - who has the best sigs?
Outbreak for the spectacular eye candy or MC for the coolness factor? Well some MC sigs have eye candy too. So it could be a toss up. Don't mistake that for 'tossing' something.
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Lowa
Gallente
North Star Networks
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:29:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Firane
Major respect Seleene. I know a few people in Eve who constantly talk as if you are the lamest person/alliance in Eve. Time and time again I can't help but pity their ignorance. You know who you are.
Class.
I'll sign that any day of teh week!
Sorry for your loss but that loss is insignificant compared to the stand up reporting.
Good show, both teams. ET is an evil bastard. Seleene is a bad ass b1atch. This is lovely.
This is gonna put a new meaning into the word 'catfight'. <3
Cheers,
Lowa
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batloard
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:46:00 -
[403]
dont the bpos inside the pos get destroyed also along with the minerals?
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Phoenus
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:48:00 -
[404]
Originally by: batloard
dont the bpos inside the pos get destroyed also along with the minerals?
The BPOs aren't stored in the POS
[ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing |
Akov Stohs
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 20:59:00 -
[405]
Name: Uvis
Security: 5.0
Alliance: Red Alliance
Corp: Solar Dragons
Ship: Chimera
Weapon: Warden I
Isn't using Drones on a Pos considered an exploit?
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:05:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Akov Stohs
Name: Uvis
Security: 5.0
Alliance: Red Alliance
Corp: Solar Dragons
Ship: Chimera
Weapon: Warden I
Isn't using Drones on a Pos considered an exploit?
Keep up with the times....
It was considered an exploit when POS actually shot them, which they don't anymore.
Sentry drones are the only drones capable of hurting POS shield
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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:05:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Akov Stohs
Name: Uvis
Security: 5.0
Alliance: Red Alliance
Corp: Solar Dragons
Ship: Chimera
Weapon: Warden I
Isn't using Drones on a Pos considered an exploit?
Welcome to 2005? That's long long fixed.
It was an exploit because it confused guns they tried to shoot drones (and shut down?). Now pos ignore drones and everything works fine. There is no drone pos exploit.
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Liam Galagher
Savey
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:08:00 -
[408]
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
Crellion, u very funny man...
If devs will remove spawns, u will be need to think out new excuses, buuut u have time for it. We wait new creative ideas!
logofski/trapski/plexki
crellion is actually cujo, who failed in his eve career as a leader of stain empire, so just dont pay attention.
very well executed plan .-A-. and respect to selene for admiting it.
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Akov Stohs
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:08:00 -
[409]
no need to get snippy, it was just a question. Afaik it was considered one up until about 4 months ago?
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DeltaH
NOBODY Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:11:00 -
[410]
Edited by: DeltaH on 16/03/2007 21:10:53
Originally by: dalman
I think it's very safe to assume that this was their plan from the beginning. It's a simple fact that a DD clears pretty much all scrambling. I would also assume that they all entered siegemode at the same time initially, for the simple fact that they'd all have to be out of siege at the same time for the plan to work - and that lag/clien freeze indeed is a reason for that you managed to get 5 of them. The introduction of Titans has indeed made it possible to conduct capital ops without a support fleet (which effectively enables full scale surprise capital attacks)(and which also brings us further down the route of 'everyone flying capitals').
This is just one example of the extreme strategic use Titans has in the game, and I've always been ammused by the people in the "titan isn't cost effective" saga. It should by now be clear to everyone that a titan is not an option but a requirement, for any entity that plan to be a major player in claiming space.
Oh, and I'll join the bandwagon and give props for the conduct here after the boom.
Good post. The DD thing is smart. With a large enough Dread fleet defending support can't stop them from killing the POS. All support can hope to do is punish the Dreads for the effort and now DD makes that tricky. It is not a stretch to think carriers will get fitted with scrams now going further down route of only capitals mattering. |
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:14:00 -
[411]
lets see what other 2+year old exploits we can dig up
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Boliknar
The Shadow Order
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:22:00 -
[412]
Edited by: Boliknar on 16/03/2007 21:20:04
Edited by: Boliknar on 16/03/2007 21:19:12
Originally by: Akov Stohs
no need to get snippy, it was just a question. Afaik it was considered one up until about 4 months ago?
Wait I am confused (anyone who knows me knows it's pretty much a constant state) if you knew it was an exploit up until four months ago then why come on here now and ask about it? Sounds like typical needless flamage.
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Ackath
Minmatar
Delta team
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:33:00 -
[413]
Originally by: MACTEP
Edited by: MACTEP on 16/03/2007 18:49:20
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
JUST SHUT UP MORON...
MAY BE RA\RAT "use loggin on right after DT"
While people like you use toilet, gaskets and log off when see RA cap fleet ONLINE.
And then SMACK ON FORUMS - if they lose..
If they win they cry - LAG FREE.....GF....GJ....WE ARE THE BEST.
Thats really not appropiate.
Why is RA so angry? Did he lie?
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:50:00 -
[414]
Guess lack of sleep (or even worse, alcohol) makes him cranky.
Nice clean report Seleene. |
fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:50:00 -
[415]
Guess lack of sleep (or even worse, alcohol) makes him cranky.
Nice clean report Seleene. |
Akov Stohs
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:56:00 -
[416]
Edited by: Akov Stohs on 16/03/2007 21:56:55
Originally by: Boliknar
Edited by: Boliknar on 16/03/2007 21:20:04
Edited by: Boliknar on 16/03/2007 21:19:12
Originally by: Akov Stohs
no need to get snippy, it was just a question. Afaik it was considered one up until about 4 months ago?
Wait I am confused (anyone who knows me knows it's pretty much a constant state) if you knew it was an exploit up until four months ago then why come on here now and ask about it? Sounds like typical needless flamage.
4 Months ago was the last time I heard of any GM taking action against it....it was also the last time I heard of drones being used against a Pos. *shrug*
And yes, that makes it hear say and conjecture, and thus why I asked.
Its not a flame, its a question. It was answered, even if very rudely.
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Akov Stohs
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:56:00 -
[417]
Edited by: Akov Stohs on 16/03/2007 21:56:55
Originally by: Boliknar
Edited by: Boliknar on 16/03/2007 21:20:04
Edited by: Boliknar on 16/03/2007 21:19:12
Originally by: Akov Stohs
no need to get snippy, it was just a question. Afaik it was considered one up until about 4 months ago?
Wait I am confused (anyone who knows me knows it's pretty much a constant state) if you knew it was an exploit up until four months ago then why come on here now and ask about it? Sounds like typical needless flamage.
4 Months ago was the last time I heard of any GM taking action against it....it was also the last time I heard of drones being used against a Pos. *shrug*
And yes, that makes it hear say and conjecture, and thus why I asked.
Its not a flame, its a question. It was answered, even if very rudely.
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BuIIseye
Amarr
ROMELITE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:57:00 -
[418]
Originally by: Ackath
Originally by: MACTEP
Edited by: MACTEP on 16/03/2007 18:49:20
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
*snip*
MAY BE RA\RAT "use loggin on right after DT"
While people like you *snip* log off when see RA cap fleet ONLINE.
And then SMACK ON FORUMS - if they lose..
If they win they cry - LAG FREE.....GF....GJ....WE ARE THE BEST.
Thats really not appropiate.
Why is RA so angry? Did he lie?
Just ignore MACTEP, he's bitter because of this
Respect MC for their report about the Hel, Congratz RA/AAA for their achivment.
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BuIIseye
Amarr
ROMELITE
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:57:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Ackath
Originally by: MACTEP
Edited by: MACTEP on 16/03/2007 18:49:20
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 16/03/2007 18:07:54
Respect to both sides here for a nice show... buuuut... I have to play devil's advocate...
Seleene what were you thinking??????? RAT-RA mostly play by logging on right after and before DT (not for shipyards but fo that other fun that spawns at that time )
Anyway great showing both sides... gratz.
*snip*
MAY BE RA\RAT "use loggin on right after DT"
While people like you *snip* log off when see RA cap fleet ONLINE.
And then SMACK ON FORUMS - if they lose..
If they win they cry - LAG FREE.....GF....GJ....WE ARE THE BEST.
Thats really not appropiate.
Why is RA so angry? Did he lie?
Just ignore MACTEP, he's bitter because of this
Respect MC for their report about the Hel, Congratz RA/AAA for their achivment.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.03.16 22:13:00 -
[420]
Just wanted to add:
Well done both sides, and extra credits to Seleene pwning the forum *****s.
Family Tahar, of Clan Hadar, of Caravan of Namtz'Aar K'in |
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Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.03.16 22:13:00 -
[421]
Just wanted to add:
Well done both sides, and extra credits to Seleene pwning the forum *****s.
Family Tahar, of Clan Hadar, of Caravan of Namtz'Aar K'in |
Miranoff
Caldari
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 22:44:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
despite anything else on these forums, props to seleene for this....
/respect gaining
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0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 22:48:00 -
[423]
Thanks for a very interesting fight.
It is very refresheing how honest you are Seleene.
Many things blew up and many people had a lot of fun.
It was a good day in eve.
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Isonkon Serikain
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:02:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Lorth
Senselessly attacking a POS, in order to make the defenders senselessly recharge it again, in the hope that it will eventually drive them away from the game, and not have the same effect on your own players, is perhaps one of the poorest thought out plans in eve history.
Actually it is quite brilliant.
Forcing 600 people to stare at a gate for 4 hours after an opportunistic 15 minute POS assault on an unhardened tower? Repeat x 20?
I mean, you can only rally max numbers so many times before people get sick of the 'crying wolf' effect.
It's boring being played like that. EVE is a game, and boredom is a killer.
this would indicate that there aren't any spies in RA/aaa? just a conjecture...It takes plenty of signalling to get a cap fleet together, after all.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:18:00 -
[425]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2007 13:18:15
To put an end to all this - I will confirm that there was a Hel in production. It had about 8 days left on build when the starbase was put into reinforced. It was a risk to do so, but since when is doing anything in EVE perfectly safe? Better to be honest about it and move on. It was slated to go to Stradivarious so those who know him can breathe a bit easier for a bit longer.
According to our production manager, the loss of the ship in production would be about 13.72 billion at the time the minerals were purchased. Combined with the tower and array, it's safe to say we took about a 15-16 billion hit today. As with all things of this nature, it's not really the ISK that hurts but rather the time put into the logistics.
Taking out five enemy dreads makes it sting a bit less tho. Right before downtime the situation was pretty dire yet we managed to rally a defense force in minutes that allowed us a chance to at least make the enemy pay for thier attack.
That's it for now. See you guys on the battlefield.
I thought Stradivarious already had a Hel.
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0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:23:00 -
[426]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 16/03/2007 13:57:37
Originally by: Seleene
I swear that if another MC member mouths off in this thread or any other that you'll be on POS fueling duty for a year.
Originally by: Evil Thug
Lamers or not, we came to your home*snip*. Clear ?
Come on, ET. Rise above this *snip*, m8. You did good and so did we. Let's leave it at that.
Please don't try to evade the profanity-filter. -Ivan K
I apologize to Evil Thug and AAA/RA for my outburst and insult.
It was born of frustration at not being able to scan the dread down fast enough to get tackler on him. I got to within 2km on one of his logon/logoff cycles but my scrambler was offline :-S and he relogged again a fraction of a second before it came online. Picture how futile I felt in an uncloaked Buzzard 2km from an enemy Moros which I could have held like a fly tackling an elephant if only I'd trained covops 5 and could have my cloak and scrambler on simultaneously ... arrrrgh ... I put a couple of rockets into his 80% shields in frustration. I chased him around the system with his picture blinking green and red in the corner of my screen till his agro timer expired (or he jumped) but I never got closer than 100km again.
Sorry again - reporting for refuelling duty, Ma'am. o7
Myn
Your frustration and reaction is justified.
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batloard
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:32:00 -
[427]
this would indicate that there aren't any spies in RA/aaa? just a conjecture...It takes plenty of signalling to get a cap fleet together, after all.
i think theres a big language barrier
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DeltaH
NOBODY Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:54:00 -
[428]
Edited by: DeltaH on 17/03/2007 00:53:46
Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
Originally by: Butter Dog
Actually it is quite brilliant.
Forcing 600 people to stare at a gate for 4 hours after an opportunistic 15 minute POS assault on an unhardened tower? Repeat x 20?
I mean, you can only rally max numbers so many times before people get sick of the 'crying wolf' effect.
It's boring being played like that. EVE is a game, and boredom is a killer.
this would indicate that there aren't any spies in RA/aaa? just a conjecture...It takes plenty of signalling to get a cap fleet together, after all.
Getting the fleet together doesn't have to be secret, just the target. Apparently everyone knew D2 had a fleet of 48 dreads before the MC POS was even attacked. When you get that many dreads in a single fleet you can reinforce a POS before the defenders can react.
BD is right in that it is very useful to do. The attackers can just sit and wait to see what the defenders muster. If it is too much, the attackers don't do anything. The defenders let their guard down once, the attackers take action.
That isn't to say the attackers have the advantage in POS war. POS cost less than a dread so the defender can keep putting them up at his convenience forcing the dreads to keep coming out and hoping that he gets at least one chance to ambush them in the open. It all changes though when you have a capital yard with something in the oven. At that point you aren't fighting for sov over a system but instead fighting over a single POS.
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Maverick McDougel
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:58:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Krugerrand
Originally by: Akov Stohs
Name: Uvis
Security: 5.0
Alliance: Red Alliance
Corp: Solar Dragons
Ship: Chimera
Weapon: Warden I
Isn't using Drones on a Pos considered an exploit?
Keep up with the times....
It was considered an exploit when POS actually shot them, which they don't anymore.
Sentry drones are the only drones capable of hurting POS shield
the only way a carrier can hurt a pos shield is to use sentry drones, since fighters don't have the range needed. plus people also use sentry drones on the moros since it has a bonus to drone damage, so when you add in 5 sentry drones it is like having another gun hitting the pos. you can also choose the damage type you do against targets by using the differt sentry drone types when you use sentry drones unlike the moros since it guns can only do kin/therm damage. it is a very good idea to have a set of em damage sentry drones in a moros's drone bay since it does a good increase to the firepower of the dread.
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D75485
Underworld Zombies
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Posted - 2007.03.17 21:05:00 -
[430]
pop
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