Originally by: Gorlish

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Looks good for Invention finally :)

-G

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Originally by: Gorlish

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Looks good for Invention finally :)

-G

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Thou shall pew pew.

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An issue where you couldn't destroy rigs without repackaging your ship has been resolved. On the fitting screen, right click the module and select destroy.

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Auction contracts can no longer be assigned to corporations other than your own.

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The research point cost to purchase datacores from research agents has been decreased dramatically.
Decryptors now add to the max runs outcome of the blueprints as originally intended.
The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000.
Drop rate of Encryption Method skills has been increased.
Drop rate of data cores has been increased.
The invention requirements of the 75mm Railgun have been corrected.
The Hulk is now listed as a variant for T1 mining barges and can be invented as a result.

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Wrecks that contain loot can now be salvaged without having to remove the loot first.

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Thou shall pew pew.

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An issue where you couldn't destroy rigs without repackaging your ship has been resolved. On the fitting screen, right click the module and select destroy.

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Auction contracts can no longer be assigned to corporations other than your own.

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The research point cost to purchase datacores from research agents has been decreased dramatically.
Decryptors now add to the max runs outcome of the blueprints as originally intended.
The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000.
Drop rate of Encryption Method skills has been increased.
Drop rate of data cores has been increased.
The invention requirements of the 75mm Railgun have been corrected.
The Hulk is now listed as a variant for T1 mining barges and can be invented as a result.

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Wrecks that contain loot can now be salvaged without having to remove the loot first.

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You can now only activate one ECM Burst at a time.

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You can now only activate one ECM Burst at a time.

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Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values.

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# Control towers anchored at a moon are now moved into the center of the grid, up to 100km+ from the warp-in point. This has been done to resolve various grid issues with control towers.

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Originally by: Malleer

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Just a question for clarification - do the log-off in bubbles also work in the case where a player cntrl q immediatly after jumping through a gate?
If the answer is yes - would this also mean warp disruptors will prevent a warp off after cntrl q at gate?

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Thou shall pew pew.

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Originally by: Esurnir

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Originally by: Malleer

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Just a question for clarification - do the log-off in bubbles also work in the case where a player cntrl q immediatly after jumping through a gate?
If the answer is yes - would this also mean warp disruptors will prevent a warp off after cntrl q at gate?

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Both off course. if the ship is in the buble, no emergency warp.[/quote

Thanks - sounds better and better the more I read it.

Originally by: Pralay

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"Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed"

All values? including rigs and ship boni like the myr's?

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Originally by: Critias

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Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values.

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are you serious? wasnt it you people who just a little while ago wanted to 'make the fights longer and increase the ships survivability' ? and now, after all the previous patches and blogs you give us this....

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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At first I tougtht this was very nice, but...

If, say, you and your fleet want to attack a system defended by 250 enemies, with bubbled gates, it's probable a lot of the attackers will crash. Does that mean they're guaranted to log back minus a ship and a clone?

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Thou shall pew pew.

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Originally by: Pralay

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"Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed"

All values? including rigs and ship boni like the myr's?

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Originally by: Pralay

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"Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed"

All values? including rigs and ship boni like the myr's?

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I think they mean that if you use multiple reppers, you get a stacking nerf.

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Originally by: Aenigma

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Originally by: Pralay

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"Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed"

All values? including rigs and ship boni like the myr's?

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Rigs and modules (though i can't remember any module that added to repair speed) yes, ship bonuses and implants most likely not. Ship bonuses, skills and implants have never been stacking nerfed.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Originally by: Pralay

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"Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed"

All values? including rigs and ship boni like the myr's?

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I think they mean that if you use multiple reppers, you get a stacking nerf.

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Thou shall pew pew.

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Originally by: Zhaine

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Edited by: Zhaine on 16/03/2007 21:23:17

Originally by: Aenigma

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Originally by: Pralay

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"Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed"

All values? including rigs and ship boni like the myr's?

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Rigs and modules (though i can't remember any module that added to repair speed) yes, ship bonuses and implants most likely not. Ship bonuses, skills and implants have never been stacking nerfed.

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Can you clarify please (someone who's been on Sisi or someone who's a Dev), is this a neft to dual rep set ups (ie the second rep will now rep at 86% of it's normal ammount)?

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Originally by: Esurnir

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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I'm sorry sir but could you tell me which guy deserve this delivery ?

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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Originally by: hotgirl933

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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lottery BPOs are being convered to 10000 run BPCs all t2 BPOs wil be removed so its a mute point

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An asteroid seeding issue in the G5KW region has been addressed.

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Originally by: Zhaine

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Can you clarify please (someone who's been on Sisi or someone who's a Dev), is this a neft to dual rep set ups (ie the second rep will now rep at 86% of it's normal ammount)?

If so why the f*ck is that being done? There's is no reason for it. Give me a reason, someone :p

Mmmm someone said it was and someone said not. I'm confused now :)

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Originally by: Obiwan 'ta Kilmayl

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"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Russians suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something wonderful has happened. "

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Originally by: HankMurphy

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Originally by: Obiwan 'ta Kilmayl

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"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Russians suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something wonderful has happened. "

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Originally by: Arushia

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Originally by: hotgirl933

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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lottery BPOs are being convered to 10000 run BPCs all t2 BPOs wil be removed so its a mute point

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Source?

Also, Hulks are inventable, what about drones?

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Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim

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"Wrecks that contain loot can now be salvaged without having to remove the loot first."

This one kinda bugs me. Will it cause an act of aggression to salvage someone else's wreck? Does it already? Because I could see a lot of greifing destroyers warping around and salvaging people's wrecks while destroying their loot...

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Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim

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"Wrecks that contain loot can now be salvaged without having to remove the loot first."

This one kinda bugs me. Will it cause an act of aggression to salvage someone else's wreck? Does it already? Because I could see a lot of greifing destroyers warping around and salvaging people's wrecks while destroying their loot...

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Originally by: Cipher7

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Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead

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Corporate standing takes low standing members into account.

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Originally by: Hoshi

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# Control towers anchored at a moon are now moved into the center of the grid, up to 100km+ from the warp-in point. This has been done to resolve various grid issues with control towers.

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As a covert ops pilot this one scares me a lot. This means that if I warp at 100km to a hostile pos I might land inside it and be decloaked and killed and there is no way what so ever for me to find out in advance...

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Originally by: Joerd Toastius

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Originally by: Hoshi

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# Control towers anchored at a moon are now moved into the center of the grid, up to 100km+ from the warp-in point. This has been done to resolve various grid issues with control towers.

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As a covert ops pilot this one scares me a lot. This means that if I warp at 100km to a hostile pos I might land inside it and be decloaked and killed and there is no way what so ever for me to find out in advance...

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That's exactly what I thought when I read that. Colour me concerned.

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Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer

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Originally by: Joerd Toastius

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Originally by: Hoshi

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# Control towers anchored at a moon are now moved into the center of the grid, up to 100km+ from the warp-in point. This has been done to resolve various grid issues with control towers.

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As a covert ops pilot this one scares me a lot. This means that if I warp at 100km to a hostile pos I might land inside it and be decloaked and killed and there is no way what so ever for me to find out in advance...

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That's exactly what I thought when I read that. Colour me concerned.

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This is happening when you anchor a new POS. Existing POS'es are not being moved.

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Corporate standing takes low standing members into account.

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Originally by: Matalino

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Corporate standing takes low standing members into account.

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Is there a bug out there where members with standings of approx 0.1 are not include in the average, or is this a nerf against empire POS and Jump Clone services by including members with no standings?

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Originally by: Bruno Bonner

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Good patch notes, the real question now is how many stealth updates are you guys doing?

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Ice belts have been removed from all systems with 0.8+ security standing.

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Originally by: Tao Han

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"TANK CEO!!!"
Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!!

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Systems in Jovian space have been changed to true 0.0 security status to avoid standing loss issues in future tournaments.

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Originally by: Patch notes

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- Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.
- Ice belts have been removed from all systems with 0.8+ security standing.

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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Originally by: Mysticaa

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Quote:

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Ice belts have been removed from all systems with 0.8+ security standing.

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Let me guess this is to help eliminate macrominers? *cough* BS! *cough*

Oh wait its to improve system performance! *cough* BS!! *cough*

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An issue where you couldn't destroy rigs without repackaging your ship has been resolved. On the fitting screen, right click the module and select destroy.

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Originally by: Wrayeth

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Edited by: Wrayeth on 17/03/2007 01:47:48
Well, according to Tuxford nano-ships will still be viable and will still *****any turret ship out there. He might as well not have nerfed nanos at all, FFS.

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=491976&page=1#30

CCP, I don't know why I keep letting you get my hopes up. I'd hoped that my playstyle (the straight-up fight, solo and small gang PvP) would become viable again when you announced that nanos would, in fact, be nerfed, but I now see that my hopes were in vain. It looks like my 3-billion ISK faction-fitted machariel will continue doing what it's been doing since Revelations was released: sitting in dock.

Thanks muchly, CCP.

And yes, that last line was sarcasm.

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Originally by: Eltyron

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Could you clarify the emergency warp feature in the patch?

Are you saying that all a defending force needs to do is create enough lag with numbers, drones, bubbles etc. to cause any invading force to lag out when jumping in. Last fleet battle I was in, I was sick of staring at a black screen for an hour and half and ctrl + q'd out. This seems a little unbalanced if it is what I think it is. The New Eden Galactic Map will never change again if so.

For small scale lag free or near lag free battles, I like the idea, but for large scale lag fests..........

Please elaborate on this new feature for us.

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Originally by: Goumindong

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Originally by: Zhaine

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Can you clarify please (someone who's been on Sisi or someone who's a Dev), is this a neft to dual rep set ups (ie the second rep will now rep at 86% of it's normal ammount)?

If so why the f*ck is that being done? There's is no reason for it. Give me a reason, someone :p

Mmmm someone said it was and someone said not. I'm confused now :)

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Dual rep setups are not nerfed unless they used certian rigs, but then so would a single rep setup.

Basically, with rigs, came a rig that boost the amount of armor hit points you repair with each cycle.

Shields already had a module[shield boost amp] for this and you could add more than one, but it was stacking penalized.

The armor repair amount rigs are not currently stacking penalized. The patch will change it so that they are.

Two armor repair modules with no rigs now = two armor repair modules with no rigs on sisi.

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Originally by: Arushia

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Systems in Jovian space have been changed to true 0.0 security status to avoid standing loss issues in future tournaments.

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What were they before?

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Originally by: hotgirl933

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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oh god RA wont like this can think of endless farmer mobs to oh joy oh beeer

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Wrecks that contain loot can now be salvaged without having to remove the loot first.

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Originally by: Battalier

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"An asteroid seeding issue in the G5KW region has been addressed."

Can you explain why only 1 system in the new regions is having asteroid seeding issues addressed?? Aren't there enough BoB pets in other regions?

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Originally by: Diana Marc

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Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych

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A MWDing Vigil gets me out of large bubbles every time.

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Originally by: Diana Marc

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Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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An asteroid seeding issue in the G5KW region has been addressed.

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Originally by: Patch Notes

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Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values.

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Originally by: Ephemeral Waves

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Edited by: Ephemeral Waves on 16/03/2007 22:46:38
This is great patch! I especially love the wreaking hits on the logoffski and the nano-ship.

However....camera reset on session change? Illegible fonts?

Eph.

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Originally by: Battalier

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"An asteroid seeding issue in the G5KW region has been addressed."

Can you explain why only 1 system in the new regions is having asteroid seeding issues addressed?? Aren't there enough BoB pets in other regions?

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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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That's the point :), to make invention cheaper and a viable alternative. I'm sure this is a step towards ending the lottery :)

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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What does:

Numerous changes have been made to over a 100 commonly used agent missions to improve the performance of the game as a part of the Need4Speed initiative.

mean?

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Originally by: Adge

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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What does:

Numerous changes have been made to over a 100 commonly used agent missions to improve the performance of the game as a part of the Need4Speed initiative.

mean?

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If it is what was discussed a month or two back, missions will spawn smaller numbers of more powerful NPCs, thus presenting similar difficulty with less of a strain on the server.

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Originally by: Thommy

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Why did not many people say anything about the new music?

I give Jon Hallur an titans worth of credits for his new works (did he make the 4th hidden number aswell?).
They are truely awesome and deserve alot more attention then they are currently getting.

I can really appreciate new music and these where so awesome i probably did not make a lot of friends down the street when i put the volume up .
Nonetheless they are true pieces of art and fit the other music pretty well.

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Originally by: Mack Dorgeans

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Sadly, none of my accounts are enabled on Singularity.

Can anyone tell me if overdrives will still have a cargo penalty?

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Originally by: Arushia

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Originally by: hotgirl933

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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lottery BPOs are being convered to 10000 run BPCs all t2 BPOs wil be removed so its a mute point

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Source?

Also, Hulks are inventable, what about drones?

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Originally by: sci0gon

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Originally by: HankMurphy

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Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

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Originally by: Obiwan 'ta Kilmayl

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"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Russians suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something wonderful has happened. "

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ROFL

its good to see this change happen imo. as for exmtreme #'s of players in systems i do feel that should be addressed due to crashing and what not. regardless i do like that they are looking to fix those players who chose to logoff to avoid bubbles instead of take their chances by either getting out of the bubble or getting to the gate.

nice work on this patch ccp

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Originally by: AK Shaman

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Invention :
Still no increasing of T2 BPC runs ?!

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Decryptors now add to the max runs outcome of the blueprints as originally intended.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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Originally by: Baleorg

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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jumpclones
you prefer "cheating"? :-P
[yes i got popped sometimes, yep i lost implanans, no i dont care much, finaly a goal to refill my +3 slots :-P ]

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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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A MWDing Vigil gets me out of large bubbles every time.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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A MWDing Vigil gets me out of large bubbles every time.

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and what about implants? How you gonna save them if you are dying in a bubble?

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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Ice belts have been removed from all systems with 0.8+ security standing.
^^^^

I hope this means we will get ice belts seeded elsewhere? As when I use the map and look through Gallente space I find ice belts in 0.8 and above but not under, unless low sec ?

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Originally by: Dominique Vasilkovsky

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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Ice belts have been removed from all systems with 0.8+ security standing.
^^^^

I hope this means we will get ice belts seeded elsewhere? As when I use the map and look through Gallente space I find ice belts in 0.8 and above but not under, unless low sec ?

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Ardallabier is 0.7 with a nice ice field in Gallente space.

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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Originally by: Dominique Vasilkovsky

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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Ice belts have been removed from all systems with 0.8+ security standing.
^^^^

I hope this means we will get ice belts seeded elsewhere? As when I use the map and look through Gallente space I find ice belts in 0.8 and above but not under, unless low sec ?

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Ardallabier is 0.7 with a nice ice field in Gallente space.

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There is several regions in Gallente space, like Verge Vendor doesnt have any it seems under 0.8
Wouldnt be good if a lot of ice miners is forced to lump up in same belts, ends up infested with griefers too very fast then.

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Originally by: Dominique Vasilkovsky

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You said it wasn't any ice in 0.5-0.7 Gallente space when it is. Maybe it isn't in your current home system but still you aren't forced out of high sec just because you want to have a Gallente tower running.

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Originally by: MellaRinn

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@ the icemining comments:
TBH most ice products are used in lowsec anyway. Ice also USED to be a lucrative enterprise. It now has a chance to be one again, hurray for that, I say ^_^

and if icemining is moved to lowsec - great, never better for the ever-dying piracy.

this can lead to several changes, which I firmly believe will benefit the economy as a whole:
1. Ice prices will go up in hubs.
2. Ice products availability in lowsec and POS-enabled systems (0.7 and lower) will increase or stay put, but not decrease - good)
3. More ppl might consider ninja-icemining in their expensive Mackinaws in lowsec - propelling the t2 indy market a little better than concord-protected mining operations.
4. Ice products decentralisation or new dedicated ice hubs in mid-highsec space - can never be a problem, imho. Although Jita sure is a cool place to do shopping.

Looks good to me :)

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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It was never about have any in my current home system. I don't mine ICE. However I do buy ice products off the market. And when removing so many ICE belts it will become a problem imho if consentration of ice miners become to dense.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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A MWDing Vigil gets me out of large bubbles every time.

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and what about implants? How you gonna save them if you are dying in a bubble?

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Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values.

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Originally by: Githtakai

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"Forcefields do not deploy in an activated state. If the password for a forcefield has not been set, the forcefield is not active and therefore not visible."

Does this mean POSes that don't have passwords will have their shields go down at patch time? I'm going ship stealing!

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Originally by: Max Kentarii

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Missing rigs for missiles and projectile
Am I the only one wondering why there are less rigs for projectile weapons than hybrid and laser weapons?

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Originally by: Harisdrop

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Originally by: Githtakai

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"Forcefields do not deploy in an activated state. If the password for a forcefield has not been set, the forcefield is not active and therefore not visible."

Does this mean POSes that don't have passwords will have their shields go down at patch time? I'm going ship stealing!

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I dont think it says the guns dont work if the forcefield is down.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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Originally by: Max Kentarii

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Missing rigs for missiles and projectile
Am I the only one wondering why there are less rigs for projectile weapons than hybrid and laser weapons?

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Originally by: Githtakai

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"Forcefields do not deploy in an activated state. If the password for a forcefield has not been set, the forcefield is not active and therefore not visible."

Does this mean POSes that don't have passwords will have their shields go down at patch time? I'm going ship stealing!

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Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.

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Originally by: Xanenal

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Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.

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I'm not sure how I feel about this...

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Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.

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Originally by: Szprinkoth Sponsz

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Carriers are meant to be frontlined. They are 500% better in frontline mode than POS hug mode. This is a Good Thing(tm).

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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Originally by: MellaRinn

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@ the icemining comments:
TBH most ice products are used in lowsec anyway. Ice also USED to be a lucrative enterprise. It now has a chance to be one again, hurray for that, I say ^_^

and if icemining is moved to lowsec - great, never better for the ever-dying piracy.

this can lead to several changes, which I firmly believe will benefit the economy as a whole:
1. Ice prices will go up in hubs.
2. Ice products availability in lowsec and POS-enabled systems (0.7 and lower) will increase or stay put, but not decrease - good)
3. More ppl might consider ninja-icemining in their expensive Mackinaws in lowsec - propelling the t2 indy market a little better than concord-protected mining operations.
4. Ice products decentralisation or new dedicated ice hubs in mid-highsec space - can never be a problem, imho. Although Jita sure is a cool place to do shopping.

Looks good to me :)

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It would increase cost of run POS's a lot, and people who run a POS for Moon mining, or reactions doesn't exactly have it that lucrative as it is. Why dont you pop up a few large towers and start nurse, and then check how good it looks?

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Originally by: Hangman69

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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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That's the point :), to make invention cheaper and a viable alternative. I'm sure this is a step towards ending the lottery :)

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They already said they were going to end the lottery, after a final round of bpo giveaways. Invention would be available to push prices down on overly profitable mods/ships. The announcement has not been made that all bpos have been given out and that the lottery is now finished. I still have possible discoveries listed at my agent. Because of that I can't cash out my research points and miss out on a possible bpo. With Invention being half ass implemented (extremely chance based, highly expensive, low me/pe copies, unknown future sustainability), possibly ripping out the bpos just shoves t2 production into an entirely too risky venture and rips out any trust the industrial/trade heart of this game has in CCP.

If you think T2 prices are high now, wait till you start seeing real shortages.

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Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.

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Originally by: MellaRinn

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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Originally by: MellaRinn

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@ the icemining comments:
TBH most ice products are used in lowsec anyway. Ice also USED to be a lucrative enterprise. It now has a chance to be one again, hurray for that, I say ^_^

and if icemining is moved to lowsec - great, never better for the ever-dying piracy.

this can lead to several changes, which I firmly believe will benefit the economy as a whole:
1. Ice prices will go up in hubs.
2. Ice products availability in lowsec and POS-enabled systems (0.7 and lower) will increase or stay put, but not decrease - good)
3. More ppl might consider ninja-icemining in their expensive Mackinaws in lowsec - propelling the t2 indy market a little better than concord-protected mining operations.
4. Ice products decentralisation or new dedicated ice hubs in mid-highsec space - can never be a problem, imho. Although Jita sure is a cool place to do shopping.

Looks good to me :)

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It would increase cost of run POS's a lot, and people who run a POS for Moon mining, or reactions doesn't exactly have it that lucrative as it is. Why dont you pop up a few large towers and start nurse, and then check how good it looks?

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You are 100% right. I used to run some POS action and it was nowhere near lucrative. but if you think about it - if POS running costs go up due to fuel prices, the POS product market will bounce back to life (not that it ever really was so lively after it settled down) and possibly running of these beasty moon miners will finally be lucrative again.

What I'm saying is that the change in pricings might affect the end-product prices in a non-proportional way. It is very unsure, yes, but it might just work. And then I'm sure POS owners would be happy too :)
On the other hand, if ice product prices go up, more new ppl will join the fold in their retrievers in search for easy money.
As well as that, remember that invention is taking over, so moon minerals will have more individual clients. You won't have to make personal deals and try and get orders from t2 magnats, because there will be a more demanding market niche opening from all those entrepreneurs that never scored a BPO yet, but have the skills and will to produce t2 from invention system only.
All in all, POS operations are standing on the edge, but might just climb up, imho.

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Originally by: Tecro Nashota

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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*Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.

And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair?
Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle..
It's insane fix.

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A MWDing Vigil gets me out of large bubbles every time.

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and what about implants? How you gonna save them if you are dying in a bubble?

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Get a clone perhaps ?

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Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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Oh yeah: buy a slave set and keep it in a jump-clone, a very wise decision :)

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Originally by: Rover Vitesse

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Can't wait until I catch you in a bubble tbh.

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Originally by: Natalia Trade

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Originally by: Hangman69

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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf

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Originally by: Hangman69

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"The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "

This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?

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That's the point :), to make invention cheaper and a viable alternative. I'm sure this is a step towards ending the lottery :)

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They already said they were going to end the lottery, after a final round of bpo giveaways. Invention would be available to push prices down on overly profitable mods/ships. The announcement has not been made that all bpos have been given out and that the lottery is now finished. I still have possible discoveries listed at my agent. Because of that I can't cash out my research points and miss out on a possible bpo. With Invention being half ass implemented (extremely chance based, highly expensive, low me/pe copies, unknown future sustainability), possibly ripping out the bpos just shoves t2 production into an entirely too risky venture and rips out any trust the industrial/trade heart of this game has in CCP.

If you think T2 prices are high now, wait till you start seeing real shortages.

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That is the nice thing, there will be no real shortages as you say, any average joe with some skillbooks trained, and some R&D agents to buy datacores from can now invent an item for his/her personal use or to sell for profit.

This means that the t2 modules will now become cheaper and made more available, and the people who hoard the t2 original bpo's will have to adapt and overcome to the lower prices and availability.

YAY!!!! to no more price fixing and gouging of the working man.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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Server uptime is delayed to 1730 GMT.

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Originally by: Fredou

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no shield boost amplifier II skill level 5 rank 3
dropped to

shield boost amplifier II skill level 4 rank 3

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Originally by: MellaRinn

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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico

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Originally by: MellaRinn

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@ the icemining comments:
TBH most ice products are used in lowsec anyway. Ice also USED to be a lucrative enterprise. It now has a chance to be one again, hurray for that, I say ^_^

and if icemining is moved to lowsec - great, never better for the ever-dying piracy.

this can lead to several changes, which I firmly believe will benefit the economy as a whole:
1. Ice prices will go up in hubs.
2. Ice products availability in lowsec and POS-enabled systems (0.7 and lower) will increase or stay put, but not decrease - good)
3. More ppl might consider ninja-icemining in their expensive Mackinaws in lowsec - propelling the t2 indy market a little better than concord-protected mining operations.
4. Ice products decentralisation or new dedicated ice hubs in mid-highsec space - can never be a problem, imho. Although Jita sure is a cool place to do shopping.

Looks good to me :)

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It would increase cost of run POS's a lot, and people who run a POS for Moon mining, or reactions doesn't exactly have it that lucrative as it is. Why dont you pop up a few large towers and start nurse, and then check how good it looks?

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You are 100% right. I used to run some POS action and it was nowhere near lucrative. but if you think about it - if POS running costs go up due to fuel prices, the POS product market will bounce back to life (not that it ever really was so lively after it settled down) and possibly running of these beasty moon miners will finally be lucrative again.

What I'm saying is that the change in pricings might affect the end-product prices in a non-proportional way. It is very unsure, yes, but it might just work. And then I'm sure POS owners would be happy too :)
On the other hand, if ice product prices go up, more new ppl will join the fold in their retrievers in search for easy money.
As well as that, remember that invention is taking over, so moon minerals will have more individual clients. You won't have to make personal deals and try and get orders from t2 magnats, because there will be a more demanding market niche opening from all those entrepreneurs that never scored a BPO yet, but have the skills and will to produce t2 from invention system only.
All in all, POS operations are standing on the edge, but might just climb up, imho.

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Originally by: Holy Cheater

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Originally by: Rover Vitesse

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Can't wait until I catch you in a bubble tbh.

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You can't place a bubble in empire space or did I miss something? :)

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Originally by: Illyria Ambri

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Patch was a failure.. New region roids are still lacking ore...

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