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loneworf Bank Notes in Isk 0	Posted - 2016.10.06 22:07:55 - [1] - Quote Please see below a post i sent to ccp. Im curious if anyone else gets the same total frustration as me. Hello team, Its time for me to continue my lobbying for game change regarding capitals and wh space. As you will know from previous tickets im trying to make you aware of improvements you can make to the game play of the half of the human family that are introverts. A quick review of my previous points :- Eve is based on training skills this training opens possibilitys that give a greater game experience the possibilities need to be fair other wise what is the point in training them? The problem is ship progression. With carriers they are a target to pvp players and they can only be flown in null or wh space with effect. i live in wh space because im a solo player. i seem to give great fun to pvp players who like to kill me and it gets tiresome. Once again i got ganked by about 8 players and even though i gave a 40 minute fight i didnt kill even one. This is a continual pattern as there is absolutely no fairness in this situation. All i ever do is lose with there being no deterrent to pvp players. I even ca-lapsed the wh's in my wh but one spawned and the team inside then had there giggle. This imbalance has made me leave the game before - im not doing so this time in fact i renewed my subscription for another 3 months - but as is usual i want to make you realise there is no place to use a carrier that you get a fair fight when your a solo player. You will see by my character i have lost a number of very expensive ships to pve - you dont see me complain about that ! Its the total frustration that ccp use and the training concept of getting better ships but they can not be realised by a solo player. There has to be a way that this can be resolved. Please consider my request because losing so many fine ships gets wearing and takes ages to replace because i cant just buy one. I have to wait for a wh that is big enough to take a capital ship that opens to a system that is selling one. This can take weeks. Manufacturing in a wh also takes weeks and on average i lose 3 occators getting the materials inside. Its a great game but it could be better for the solo player - please remember not all people are extroverts who are craving companionship, 50% of the population are introverts or simply dont feel like interacting after a hard days work. im still wanting the same opportunities to use those ship skills that are the back bone of the game but i dont want to be simply fueling the PVP experience for its own sake. Surely a pvp experience is enhanced in a fair fight not picking on solo players were they have no risk at all. The proposed idea is that anyone who is in a fleet in a wh gets some kind of penalty when attacking solo players involved in pve at a site. The idea is to make the fight fair and not a forgone conclusion. There needs to a a real deterrent or risk to attacking a carrier or similar vessel. This effect only to happen in wh space as null is the place for team pvp and this experience should not be changed for those players. This will give a genuine outlet to the training options you give and a reason to keep playing the game to the solo player.
Malthuras 3	Posted - 2016.10.06 23:19:20 - [2] - Quote This is a terrible idea. You chose to fly solo, more power to you. If you want to be a carrier in a site solo by yourself, thats tons of isk. However, if you choose to operate by yourself, you reap both the rewards and risk of that. Your suggestion is akin to "Waa things aren't fair because people bring more stuff than I do by myself". EVE isn't fair. Everything is a trap, and wh space is the most unfair of all. HTFU.
Mephiztopheleze Laphroaig Inc. 987	Posted - 2016.10.06 23:33:34 - [3] - Quote if you're going to use capitals in a wormhole, sooner or later people are going to notice. Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
PopeUrban El Expedicion Flames of Exile 126	Posted - 2016.10.07 01:26:56 - [4] - Quote Uh. No. You, a single pilot, lost a fight to a group of people. WH space is not designed to cater to solo players who don't want to get jumped. That's the function of hisec, an area of space that is a bit less lucrative because it is less dangerous. Further, CAPITAL ships aren't designed to be flown solo really. They're extremely vulnerable to very cheap ships without some supporting fleet on purpose. They were designed as the centerpiece of corporate and alliance fleets. The fact that you CAN use them to rat doesn't mean the game needs to be redesigned around ratting in them, or making you have some magic shield because you refuse to make friends. YOU made the decision to fly a very expensive ship, without backup, in space that makes it extremely easy to gank you. The game doesn't need some artificial mechanism to remedy your poor decisions. You made a very risky decision, and it didn't work out for you. Either alter your decision making processes, learn to live with your losses due to your risky decisions, or find a game that is designed more in the direction of "fair fights" because EVE is not that game and most likely never will be.
Sojourn Hedion University Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2016.10.07 02:01:30 - [5] - Quote I'll say what others will want to, but won't... Massively Multiplayer Online... Jesus christ, what is it with solo wannabe's constantly trying to harm the game of those that actually play the game with a group. So you got ganked. Whoopty doo. Deal with it and move on. What you're proposing is like going into the Ghetto, walking upto the post box's and properties of people then knocking them over or damaging things, and expecting a group of big black men to go easy on you one at a time, or at least fight you blind folded. Numbers are a force multiplyer. If you can't get that through your head then leave Eve. I am all for expanding wormhole space and having players come because I like the content, but people like you, I'd rather not have people like you in them... TLDR VERSION: **** OFF
radkid10 University of Caille Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2016.10.07 06:38:43 - [6] - Quote loneworf wrote: Please see below a post i sent to ccp. Im curious if anyone else gets the same total frustration as me. Hello team, Its time for me to continue my lobbying for game change regarding capitals and wh space. As you will know from previous tickets im trying to make you aware of improvements you can make to the game play of the half of the human family that are introverts. A quick review of my previous points :- Eve is based on training skills this training opens possibilitys that give a greater game experience the possibilities need to be fair other wise what is the point in training them? The problem is ship progression. With carriers they are a target to pvp players and they can only be flown in null or wh space with effect. i live in wh space because im a solo player. i seem to give great fun to pvp players who like to kill me and it gets tiresome. Once again i got ganked by about 8 players and even though i gave a 40 minute fight i didnt kill even one. This is a continual pattern as there is absolutely no fairness in this situation. All i ever do is lose with there being no deterrent to pvp players. I even ca-lapsed the wh's in my wh but one spawned and the team inside then had there giggle. This imbalance has made me leave the game before - im not doing so this time in fact i renewed my subscription for another 3 months - but as is usual i want to make you realise there is no place to use a carrier that you get a fair fight when your a solo player. You will see by my character i have lost a number of very expensive ships to pve - you dont see me complain about that ! Its the total frustration that ccp use and the training concept of getting better ships but they can not be realised by a solo player. There has to be a way that this can be resolved. Please consider my request because losing so many fine ships gets wearing and takes ages to replace because i cant just buy one. I have to wait for a wh that is big enough to take a capital ship that opens to a system that is selling one. This can take weeks. Manufacturing in a wh also takes weeks and on average i lose 3 occators getting the materials inside. Its a great game but it could be better for the solo player - please remember not all people are extroverts who are craving companionship, 50% of the population are introverts or simply dont feel like interacting after a hard days work. im still wanting the same opportunities to use those ship skills that are the back bone of the game but i dont want to be simply fueling the PVP experience for its own sake. Surely a pvp experience is enhanced in a fair fight not picking on solo players were they have no risk at all. The proposed idea is that anyone who is in a fleet in a wh gets some kind of penalty when attacking solo players involved in pve at a site. The idea is to make the fight fair and not a forgone conclusion. There needs to a a real deterrent or risk to attacking a carrier or similar vessel. This effect only to happen in wh space as null is the place for team pvp and this experience should not be changed for those players. This will give a genuine outlet to the training options you give and a reason to keep playing the game to the solo player. quit complaining to the company running this game they're more likely going to banned your account not everything in this game is best for solo players stop having entitlement issues I expect my ass to be kicked every day I go into a wormhole it doesn't happen every day but I expect it to happen so I'm prepared for it I think I've been playing the game for 40 to 45 days now and I've only got killed by players one time my ship is no carrier but if I lose 5 to 6 in one week I'm paying for a carrier but I'm not that stupid learn to use the directional scan and get yourself a cloaking device if you're not using one if you can't do those basic things why are you flying something that expensive you should go play another game I don't think this game is the game for you
Bloemkoolsaus Viperfleet Inc. Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle 214	Posted - 2016.10.07 10:21:32 - [7] - Quote loneworf wrote: Its a great game but it could be better for the solo player There is plenty of stuff you can do as a solo player. Remember that the high-end sleeper sites where designed with groups of players in mind. There is other content for solo players. loneworf wrote: You will see by my character i have lost a number of very expensive ships to pve Risk vs Reward loneworf wrote: you dont see me complain about that ! Then what exactly is this? loneworf wrote: the training concept of getting better ships In eve, bigger is not better. Also, what the guys above me said!
Michael1995 Lazerhawks 248	Posted - 2016.10.07 10:48:17 - [8] - Quote I agree! Make it so you can jump capitals through and into low-class space!!! Selling WH CFC Standings 10b/month for +10 with: Lazerhawks, Hard Knocks, Overwatch This, Many Vacancies, Golden Showers, Friendly Probes, Isogen Memed. Join up for swag C3 Gila/Osprey ratting fleets daily! We also rent C2s out with CV effect!
Lorno Death Sternenbastarde 82	Posted - 2016.10.07 11:48:00 - [9] - Quote Sorry, I am not able to find any capital kill here: https://zkillboard.com/character/1738919931/stats/ COuld you please point out where the **** you ever lost a capital? And an Orca is not a capital for PVE...
Brown Pathfinder Its a good day to die 13	Posted - 2016.10.07 13:57:13 - [10] - Quote Hey sorry about your losses but you should read the warning message on the show info window when entering a wormhole. It clairly states its space filled with dangers, maybe not exactly listed what dangers but still, same as you try jump into low-sec space... Wormhole space is like others mentioned alot about risk vs reward and special gameplay that you won't find exactly the same way as in other types of space. I would like you study some of the community guides and info about the eve's deep black space: Eve uni Wiki about wormhole space If you have dyslexia or want to have a more visual and audio guides you can look up several on youtube! like this guys has a few Anglov WH Pve guides Or CCP's Flight Academy shows a few of the basics too! Some good info about concepts in Eve Online by Crossing Zebras! Good luck!

Linus Gorp Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker 569	Posted - 2016.10.07 14:00:55 - [11] - Quote Sojourn wrote: I'll say what others will want to, but won't... Massively Multiplayer Online... MMORPG Mostly Men Online Role Playing Girls When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Isaac Armer The Soup Kitchen 336	Posted - 2016.10.07 20:20:12 - [12] - Quote You do realize 'introvert' doesn't mean "I don't want to talk to people, and want to play solo", right? Introvert and anti-social are not interchangeable terms.
loneworf Bank Notes in Isk 0	Posted - 2016.10.07 23:37:57 - [13] - Quote thanks for the reponses - more than i expected. All i take from this are comments from PVP players. Are any of you solo players to be able to comment in kind ? if you are then you have a a fair voice if not you dont ---- i also think you are missing the point , show me were you can use a carrier as a solo player ?? do you agree the game is based on training - yes . then the goal of owning the best possible ships are not realised by all genre of player - that is my point - do you actually get the point?
Seraph Essael Binary Adaption Ascending Darkness 1215	Posted - 2016.10.08 01:06:38 - [14] - Quote loneworf wrote: thanks for the reponses - more than i expected. All i take from this are comments from PVP players. Are any of you solo players to be able to comment in kind ? if you are then you have a a fair voice if not you dont ---- i also think you are missing the point , show me were you can use a carrier as a solo player ?? do you agree the game is based on training - yes . then the goal of owning the best possible ships are not realised by all genre of player - that is my point - do you actually get the point? Holy ****, was that a "WAAAAAAAH! Youre comment isn't valid because it doesn't agree with mine" Get a grip dude. I also know, personally know, three players who fly solo and have a carrier. Difference is, they don't cry about it when they get killed in a site... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Michael1995 Lazerhawks 248	Posted - 2016.10.08 04:03:34 - [15] - Quote You should look into HAW Dreads. Selling WH CFC Standings 10b/month for +10 with: Lazerhawks, Hard Knocks, Overwatch This, Many Vacancies, Golden Showers, Friendly Probes, Isogen Memed. Join up for swag C3 Gila/Osprey ratting fleets daily! We also rent C2s out with CV effect!
Wander Prian Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 268	Posted - 2016.10.08 13:30:54 - [16] - Quote loneworf wrote: thanks for the reponses - more than i expected. All i take from this are comments from PVP players. Are any of you solo players to be able to comment in kind ? if you are then you have a a fair voice if not you dont ---- i also think you are missing the point , show me were you can use a carrier as a solo player ?? do you agree the game is based on training - yes . then the goal of owning the best possible ships are not realised by all genre of player - that is my point - do you actually get the point? Except that is not the way the ship progression works in Eve. Bigger is not always better and the bigger ships do alot better when supported correctly by others. Each ship is a tool you use for certain purposes. They are better at that job, while suffering in other ones. You aren't meant to be able to do whatever you want with whatever ship you want without having problems, especially when flying solo. Eve is not a kind game for people who fly alone. You are meant to play with others, to build something together. While nothing is stopping you from playing alone, the deck is always going to be stacked against you from the start. This is especially true in wormhole-space which, due to its nature, forces more cooperation between pilots than the other parts of Eve. You aren't a special snowflake that should have the game bend around your wishes and big ships aren't designed to be flown alone. HTFU and find some friends to fly with. Hopefully I'll see you in space and I'll make sure another wreck will appear. Wormholer for life.
loneworf Bank Notes in Isk 0	Posted - 2016.10.08 21:19:17 - [17] - Quote Your comment was a good one thank you. I dont think though that the core item im trying to talk about is being addressed completely in the cordial comments offered. The core point i am making is based around the training of skills and being able to realise them. Who else would like to be able to use a carrier on a more regular basis. If the game is stacked in such a way that you simply have to have support to fly one then realising the training for a carrier can not be truly realised unless you are 1) in a corp with active crew mates 2) these team mates are happy to offer protection when you want to fly it 3) that you all live in null or wh space. This means that one cant just hop in a carrier at will - your mates have to be online and the space your in has to have something to do with it to make it fun to use, other wise there is no point in training for a carrier. It takes maybe 18 months to train well. Im asking that an opportunity be given to fly one at will were the odds of survival are better than they are now to make it worth doing. My goal was to be able to solo a c5 and possibly a c6 site. It takes time in space to do this and learn the site. I have had heavy loses doing so and lost many carriers which was all my choice to do so. I get particularly upset when i get ganked when there is no equal fight to be had. If i see a crew out hunting its always a ' for gone' conclusion that i will die. i think in the five years i have been playing i have only shoot down 1 player from a hunting crew. Surely anyone can see that is an imbalance. I really fail to see the pleasure in a fight that is never equal were all know they are going to kill the carrier and there will be no loses to them. That is the reality at present and the point i am lobbying for change. i am wondering if after 5 years of gaming that maybe it is time for me to leave. I started , like many, in a high sec mining corp and then we moved on and we played as a wh corp for about 2 years because we could mine the ore we wanted to, but, as happens on a regular bases the player interests change and we all separated. We were not PVP players even then as a matter of principle but some decided they wanted to be so. I simply dont like the predatory nature of pvp and that statement reflects my real life feelings. I decided to stay in a wh and make them my personnel challenge to find a way to do the sites solo. Thats when i trained for a carrier. I finally have a fit that does indeed do a c5 site and the escalations, which, is a huge personnel achievement. I have never once had a carrier long enough that it has paid for itself. i get ganked before that time as the sites have warp disruptors on them and i have to stay in space for about 1.5 hours to do a site. That means i get visited by ganking crews and every time its the same outcome - death. I would defy anyone to feel any differently in my situation. A fair fight is totally acceptable but it is never never never a fair fight and im fed up with it. The training skills cant be realised in a way that they can be realised.
Malthuras 8	Posted - 2016.10.08 23:52:00 - [18] - Quote Everyone understands what you're saying. What we are telling you, and you're not getting, is that...and bear with me now... EVE is NOT fair at all, in the slightest. You choose to train for whatever ships you want. You make money from escalations SOLO, great...You also choose to take the risk that is involved with that, running by yourself, waiting to get ganked. There is nothing you can say that will convince anyone else to feel sorry for you. If you want to make tons of isk in a solo carrier by yourself in sites, great. But if you can't accept the risk that comes with it, don't do it. Risk vs Reward, learn that concept. Train for what you want to train, but have a plan before doing so, and don't come here trying to complain about how EVE isn't fair because since the day this game started, its been like that. I don't think this game is for you if you can't understand that.
loneworf Bank Notes in Isk 0	Posted - 2016.10.09 21:25:11 - [19] - Quote Thank you for your rely. I would like to point out though that not one of my carriers has paid for itself due to the interception of pvp ganking crews. the last carrier did 2x core garrison sites at approx 350m isk each but the carrier loses were 2.1b isk. not a good business model. i finance their build by mining gas and what i can actually pve in the c5 wh were i live. I think i do get the drift of those comments that have been left and that is that the unfairness to the game shouldnt be a worry - but - let me tell you i feel like throwing stuff around the room when i get ganked like that and i put that down to a natural reaction to injustice that seem to be inbuilt. That instinct seems to have fuelled people like Mandela, Luther king etc. when injustice is real and needs addressing of which they did. ( im not making a heroic comparison to myself here though as that would be ridiculous ! ) Even though eve is a game it still appies. Eve advertises careers in mining , exploration , industry , pve etc but when it comes to pve a c6 wh is the ultimate and it cant actually be realised at present in a way that even breaks even in effort, time and skill. That needs addressing in my view. It does sound as if i stand alone in this point and i will have to let the matter rest and consider my future.
Wander Prian Art Of Explosions 270	Posted - 2016.10.10 00:29:20 - [20] - Quote Have you tried, I don't know... Joining a corporation? Playing with others? Flying something cheaper than a carrier? Nowhere has CCP said that you are supposed to be able to solo C5 sites in a carrier without a huge risk of losing it to the site or to players. You have chosen to play alone in the hardest part of the game and now you complain how it's not fair... The problem is with your, not with the game. Everything is working as it should. Wormholer for life.

Duo Roman Warp Nomads 26	Posted - 2016.10.10 13:34:31 - [21] - Quote You may feel good going solo but you don't know what you are missing until you join a corp with nice, like-minded people. Mandela ant Luther King fought to REMOVE different sets of rules applied to the same people. That is actually the opposite of what you are suggesting.
YeuxVerts Belle Calibrated Chaos Triumvirate. 8	Posted - 2016.10.11 10:49:19 - [22] - Quote loneworf wrote: Eve advertises careers in mining , exploration , industry , pve etc but when it comes to pve a c6 wh is the ultimate Wrong. There is no "ultimate". And even if there were, a lot of people could argue incursions and/or L5s are harder and more rewarding. If you want to solo C5 or C6 sites, you can do them reasonably safely on Sisi. Or you can join a corporation that lives there. All in all, you're pushing towards two aspects of Eve that are not part of Eve : solo gameplay, and safe PvE. It won't happen. I didn't want my dignity anyway.
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 2451	Posted - 2016.10.12 15:11:43 - [23] - Quote loneworf wrote: Thank you for your rely. I would like to point out though that not one of my carriers has paid for itself due to the interception of pvp ganking crews. the last carrier did 2x core garrison sites at approx 350m isk each but the carrier loses were 2.1b isk. not a good business model. That your business model isn't very good is a problem YOU have to solve. You can't ask for the entire game to undergo a paradigm shift to accommodate the fact that you can't formulate a winning strategy. "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 576	Posted - 2016.10.13 03:30:52 - [24] - Quote I think the real progression in Eve is to try different aspects of the game -- not just advance in ship size. Kudo's for living in WH space. And more kudo's for pulling it off solo. If you think about capital ships in a navy, they are always protected by lots of non-capital ships. People like catching big fish. When you become a big fish, people will hunt you and you need the other ships to protect you. If you want to use your capital for PvE you might consider moving to null rental space. Otherwise, you might need to move to a new hole if people are seeding your current hole for content. Realistically, I don't see how CCP can do what you want without hurting the rest of the game. But don't give up on Eve, think of what you want to try next. Or don't write off the possibility of joining a corp. There are a lot of low-key corps where people are mature and don't bother you much -- just don't go on a Pandemic Horde drunk fleet ;-) .
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 576	Posted - 2016.10.13 03:41:36 - [25] - Quote Duo Roman wrote: Mandela ant Luther King fought to REMOVE different sets of rules applied to the same people. That is actually the opposite of what you are suggesting. Or perhaps Ghandi, Mandela and MLK developed tactics to gain power for their group against a more powerful group that was ready to lose their master morality. Wouldn't work so well against ISIS or Nazi's, or the Amarian mindset in Eve.
seany1212 Relentless Destruction Immediate Destruction 270	Posted - 2016.10.29 10:34:49 - [26] - Quote loneworf wrote: Thank you for your rely. I would like to point out though that not one of my carriers has paid for itself due to the interception of pvp ganking crews. the last carrier did 2x core garrison sites at approx 350m isk each but the carrier loses were 2.1b isk. not a good business model. i finance their build by mining gas and what i can actually pve in the c5 wh were i live. I think i do get the drift of those comments that have been left and that is that the unfairness to the game shouldnt be a worry - but - let me tell you i feel like throwing stuff around the room when i get ganked like that and i put that down to a natural reaction to injustice that seem to be inbuilt. That instinct seems to have fuelled people like Mandela, Luther king etc. when injustice is real and needs addressing of which they did. ( im not making a heroic comparison to myself here though as that would be ridiculous ! ) Even though eve is a game it still appies. Eve advertises careers in mining , exploration , industry , pve etc but when it comes to pve a c6 wh is the ultimate and it cant actually be realised at present in a way that even breaks even in effort, time and skill. That needs addressing in my view. It does sound as if i stand alone in this point and i will have to let the matter rest and consider my future. Your view of the game is completely wrong, mainly because you feel that with enough skillpoints you should be able to play the game with impunity, because you cannot see it any other way maybe this game isn't for you. Also as you 'feel like throwing stuff around the room when getting ganked' you might want to take anger management classes or find another hobby. C5 and C6 PVE were never intended to be done solo, it was meant to be done with small/medium sized gangs depending on ships used and generated content for a range of people this being the idea. Nearly from the beginning people managed to pimp ships to run C5's solo (used to be able to run them in a tengu) but CCP took note and ramped up the neuting effect ruling that out. Now it's pimp fit bs's/marauders if you want to be able to do a select range of sites and then as mentioned by nearly everyone here that it isn't the intention and you're running great risk by doing it solo. tl:dr; Working as intended.
Alysa Vanprice of the Honor Guard 0	Posted - 2016.11.02 14:48:45 - [27] - Quote I'm a solo player...in the sense solo corp. I solo'ed a WH for 3 months before I took my break in 2014. Look at my kill board...hmmm...theres something different... I did a ton of research before even thinking about living in a hole. I also studied what it takes to survive the pvp aspect...DON'T BE STUPID. I knew what was safe, and what was too risky...carrier is NOT an option. If the site requires a carrier...its too risky for the reward. Skip it and go to the lesser site with a better pvp survivability ship. TLDR: Quit whining; You knew what you were getting into, and if you didn't, then you got what was coming. As I tell my kids... Suck it up princess, and learn form you stupidity.
Captain Awkward Republic University Minmatar Republic 129	Posted - 2016.11.03 15:34:18 - [28] - Quote loneworf wrote: Eve advertises careers in mining , exploration , industry , pve etc but when it comes to pve a c6 wh is the ultimate and it cant actually be realised at present in a way that even breaks even in effort, time and skill Even if, who said you should be albe to solo a C6? Its like writing a angry letter to Blizzard that you cant Solo the latest 25+ Hardcore raid. Some stuff in game is simply not ment to be done solo. There is plenty of stuff in EvE that can be done solo. A C6 is not recomendet for solo. Maybe you should consider leaving your WH and go into null. Join a nullsec alliance or move to Providance where you are wellcome even as a Solo Player.
Nikea Tiber Backwater Enterprises RD 42	Posted - 2016.11.07 18:19:40 - [29] - Quote Yeah... I'll bite on this one. Carriers, along with other capital ships, aren't really meant for solo play; between lack of mobility and lack of damage application to targets smaller than you (i.e. basically everything), you are a sitting duck to the first gang that can eliminate your fighters and break your tank. You getting ganked isn't injustice, more people than just you banded together to 'poon your whale ass, if you don't get outgunned, you are going to get outnumbered, it is basically a rule you can count on. Seems like you want a solo pwnmobile. Sorry, they don't exist. Eve isn't built or ballanced for the solo player. Seriously, spend some time on youtube and watch fleet battles between alliances and ask yourself what the result would be if every single cap deployed (I'll wait while you count them all) were the solopwnmobile you feel like it should be. Why fly anything else at that point. You need to let your ideas of "progression" die, bigger ship classes don't necessarily give you the tools to succeed vs an entire hostile gang; everything you can train for either prepares you or sharpens your abilities to fufill different fleet roles; ships don't get better at everything as they get bigger. Make some friends man, it will take you a long way in making every ship class enjoyable. There is a reason coprorations exist, just because you want to solo doesn't mean it is unfair for you to be attacked by a gang; you have an asset other people want to destroy, this should be enough of a lure to provide friends you make with content. It doesn't matter what you are sitting in. At the end of the day, friendship is the best ship. Every solo boat is a km waiting to happen. The obvious solution is to stop soloing and get involved in a player organization. my other nano is a polycarb
Kaivarian Coste Stellar Supply 97	Posted - 2016.11.07 18:49:55 - [30] - Quote I like to play solo but I disagree with this proposal. If you make WHs as safe as high-sec, WH income will be EXACTLY the same as high-sec. And so it's pointless. If you want higher reward, you need to accept higher risk.

Jack Miton Un.Reasonable 4935	Posted - 2016.11.08 02:54:45 - [31] - Quote HA! HAHAHAHA!!! BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! no. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Orlacc 948	Posted - 2016.11.08 05:23:17 - [32] - Quote Simply ridiculous. WHs are getting to be the only place where things are free form. If you CHOOSE to play solo that is your problem. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Keno Skir 886	Posted - 2016.11.08 14:57:44 - [33] - Quote loneworf wrote: thanks for the reponses - more than i expected. All i take from this are comments from PVP players. Are any of you solo players to be able to comment in kind ? if you are then you have a a fair voice if not you dont ---- i also think you are missing the point , show me were you can use a carrier as a solo player ?? do you agree the game is based on training - yes . then the goal of owning the best possible ships are not realised by all genre of player - that is my point - do you actually get the point? I am a solo player (95% solo kills career so far) and i think you're being incredibly entitled. You can;t walk into a clearly labeled multiplayer game and expect there to be a special little place carved out where you "introverts" (wrong word) can play with your carriers in peace. Actually there is, the SiSi server. Every ship on SiSi is 1isk and there wont be many people trying to hunt you, fly carriers to your hearts content. On Tranquility however EvE is a multiplayer game and allowing carebears like you the ability to wall yourself off from the rest of the game is incredibly damaging both to your learning and the the greater game as a whole. There are ships that are more geared toward solo and ones that are more personnel intensive, this adds depth to the game. Honestly you're kind of lucky you didn't post this in GD or you'd never hear the end of it. As i mentioned i fly almost exclusively solo and much of the time in wormhole space. You have no idea what you're saying. Go play on SiSi if you want single player. (bet you won't tho, because you want loads of ISK on the main server just with no risk at all to yourself..) Gùï> 30 Day Buddy Trial + ISK Bonus & Starting Assistance <Gùï Feel free to contact me regarding my posts, or my 30 Day EvE Buddy Trials \o/
Trinkets friend Empty Vessels 3039	Posted - 2016.11.15 08:12:52 - [34] - Quote loneworf wrote: Please see below a post i sent to ccp. Im curious if anyone else gets the same total frustration as me. The proposed idea is that anyone who is in a fleet in a wh gets some kind of penalty when attacking solo players involved in pve at a site. Yeh, there's already a penalty for people in fleets. its called having to put up with other people. Introverts have a massive advantae. I mean, have you had to hand out on comms with Jester? ~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Elk Oldfaith Sky Fighters 0	Posted - 2016.11.21 14:39:46 - [35] - Quote I want to say loneworf has been a super cool guy in his comments in this thread. Even though his ideas may seem silly, he has been way more civil than the people disagreeing with him! As a member of a WH PvP corp, I have some advice to give loneworf regarding solo PvE in WH space. Contrary to what many have said in this thread, solo PvE in WH space _is_ a potentially viable option. That is part of the beauty of Eve. You can play the game how you want. That said, it is not necessarily _easy_ to play the game any given way. To do solo PvE in WH space, you need to be very very careful. This may involve: bringing all holes in your system to critical mass, warping to safety when a new sig spawns, ratting aligned and ready to warp away at the slightest whiff of trouble, and obsessive d-scanning, among other things. It seems to me unlikely that petitioning to the devs on this particular matter will bring about much change. Instead, I recommend working within the existing rules of the game to achieve what you want, loneworf. PvP WHers have methods, but you also have counter methods to deploy!
loneworf Bank Notes in Isk 2	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:25:45 - [36] - Quote Thank you for your reply Elk Oldfaith i appreciate it. It would appear many dont share the same view that i do on the original post and i have to respect that. I do hope that at some level my view can also be respected as well. I was wondering if i could change the discussion fractionally. As explained before i have not made a carrier pay for itself yet in a wh environment. Some have given suggestions on how to achieve this and i do indeed employ most of the strategies suggested - a quick recap 1) I do align to my pos whilst in a site 2) I did close the wh's to critical and then bubble them 3) i do D scan alot - but on this point it makes no difference because of capital escalations. One is stuck there until one kills the advanced ships due to disruptors and this takes maybe 45minutes to an hour. 4) There is a module you can buy that prevents D scan from picking you up within 30km of its launch point but it only lasts 1 hour and costs 30m to buy. The use is limited. 5 ) i do the sites mid week off peak to help with less traffic being around in my wh. These are the strategies i employ. Does anyone have any other ideas so that i could at least make a capital ship pay for itself? remember ---- i mean solo play. The fit i have is fantastic and cap stable with max training and very expensive fitting to achieve this. The character it was lost on was 'loneworfs brother' . Have a look and see what you can come up with please.
Duo Roman Warp Nomads 26	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:58:38 - [37] - Quote loneworf wrote: Does anyone have any other ideas so that i could at least make a capital ship pay for itself? You should collapse all the WHs. After you collapse them a new static will appear. Do not warp to the new static, your hole will be safe until a wandering WH pops up. (Edit: unless there is someone already in your system). This way you will reduce the risk. When new signature pops up, assume that someone entered your system and is already looking for you.
Egsise Special Boat Service. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 10	Posted - 2016.12.09 05:53:16 - [38] - Quote loneworf wrote: Its a great game but it could be better for the solo player - please remember not all people are extroverts who are craving companionship, 50% of the population are introverts or simply dont feel like interacting after a hard days work. im still wanting the same opportunities to use those ship skills that are the back bone of the game but i dont want to be simply fueling the PVP experience for its own sake. Surely a pvp experience is enhanced in a fair fight not picking on solo players were they have no risk at all. The proposed idea is that anyone who is in a fleet in a wh gets some kind of penalty when attacking solo players involved in pve at a site. The idea is to make the fight fair and not a forgone conclusion. There needs to a a real deterrent or risk to attacking a carrier or similar vessel. This effect only to happen in wh space as null is the place for team pvp and this experience should not be changed for those players. This will give a genuine outlet to the training options you give and a reason to keep playing the game to the solo player. As an 89% introvert(mbti tests <3 ) I don't understand your point. Eve is a multiplayer game. Sure we can have a fleet penalty when we fight against a single ship. Then we would just be unfleeted and still killing your Chimera
Kosomot Poseidon Energy and Industrial DRONE WALKERS 36	Posted - 2016.12.15 00:27:43 - [39] - Quote I'm not going to carry on with what has already been said, but here is what i will say. Find a new WH, I would never consider staying in a wormhole with Russians, they are way more bad ass than you. it's way more secure in SOV Null and you fly around in your orca and do whatever you do. You don't even have to talk to people just contribute on some level and people leave you alone, and risk is as minimal as it gets in null, as long as you are not brain damaged and know how to use your tools. That being said, even in high sec you can still get ganked in whatever you are flying. Undock some fancy ship and just because they can some suicide squad just waiting for whatever undocks decides it's you. That's EVE, it's what makes it great, that if you undock it you should be prepared to lose it I will say, if you want, "I don't want anyone to hurt my feelings, and i shouldn't lose my stuff when my feelings get hurt"...well World of Warcraft is that way ----> Fly Safe I am a miner, mission runner, and explorer... or as EVE Online would have it... A Carebear!!
Aitu Foo Holdings AL3XAND3R. 7	Posted - 2016.12.27 16:30:01 - [40] - Quote loneworf wrote: thanks for the reponses - more than i expected. All i take from this are comments from PVP players. Are any of you solo players to be able to comment in kind ? if you are then you have a a fair voice if not you dont ---- i also think you are missing the point , show me were you can use a carrier as a solo player ?? do you agree the game is based on training - yes . then the goal of owning the best possible ships are not realised by all genre of player - that is my point - do you actually get the point? I have solo PvE'd in wh space a lot. I dualed and triple boxed. I was able to solo capital escalations (carrier / dread / loki ) back when wolf rayets had an armor resist buff. I brought my caps in from nul and lowsec. At no point ever would I have considered "giving" a fight with them. With just a solo carrier I would clear c5/6 gas sites and gas mine. During the time I spent with a small group I also flew caps. I would never have used them to fight. I have not lost a capital ship but have help kill two. At no point in my entire time playing Eve has there ever been a point where fighting in a cap would have been a good idea. I did once blow up a POS when no one was there to fight back if you want to count that. You will always be out numbered and always out gunned. I have quit because of this in the past and I suggest you do the same.



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