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slothe
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:15:00 -
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People moaned about the nanobs but there have been more powerful (strangely) ships in eve before, which were your favourites?
Personally i loved the 0 mass mwd cycle jamming torpedo blackbird  any other favourites out there?
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Imechal Ravpeim
International Multi-Player Consortium
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:19:00 -
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I hear stories of a gankgeddon that could melt other BS in two volleys... oh how I wish I were here in those days.
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Cpt Abestos
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:20:00 -
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8hvy drone thorax was pretty good
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Def Antares
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:21:00 -
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2004 scorpion
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Blind Man
Kemono.
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:22:00 -
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the raven nerf threads got going pretty good
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Isonkon Serikain
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:23:00 -
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 Originally by: slothe
People moaned about the nanobs but there have been more powerful (strangely) ships in eve before, which were your favourites?
Personally i loved the 0 mass mwd cycle jamming torpedo blackbird any other favourites out there?
Torpedo BB had to be up there... OR the kestrel with 4 cruise launchers...
Also the artitempest, before tracking was implemented... Insta pop frigs orbiting you 5km away 4tw...
Dual mwd raven, back when torps hit frigs for full damage, was just nasty.
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iudex
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.22 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: iudex on 22/03/2007 23:28:34
I think the Domi was overpowered.
No other ship in EVE was able to do that many things at once:
The Nosferatu in highslots will suck the enemy dry while providing the Domi enough cap for a phat tank.
In medslots it can have ew/tackeling stuff, while having a full tank in lowslots and still doing full damage with drones due phat dronebay + dronebonus.
Caldaris would need 2-3 ships to do all that what a domi can do allone.
Ye, that was an awsome ship ... but wait ... it still can do all this 
Someone forgot to nerf it ??
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Nadraas
Antipodean inc.
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2007.03.23 00:15:00 -
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Gallente.
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 00:26:00 -
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I remember before the ecm nerf and nano-boost the dominix was very mean, heavy nosferatu, ecm and heavy tank with heavy drones for damage was pretty much a win everytime... It is still scary like hell because a lot of nos is still unbalanced and sensor dampeners aren't bad at all...
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Corwain
Gallente
Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.03.23 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: iudex
still doing full damage with drones due phat dronebay + dronebonus.
Caldaris would need 2-3 ships to do all that what a domi can do allone.
My blasterdomi does 720dps with only 5 named blasters...
It only does about 400dps in Nos config.
I think your second problem there is you're trying to play Gallente style with Caldari ships. Try to get some range and use the fact that Caldari can do 3-4x as much damage at 50-70km than Gallente ships can dream of doing at that range.
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Altrex Stoppel
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:00:00 -
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Ownage
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Nim9i5
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:14:00 -
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no clue why ccp nerfed caldari. They are just weak now for pvp. At least damage output was a trade off for missles. But now gallente can get more dps and instataneous
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Esurnir
Amarr
Bears Inc
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Altrex Stoppel
Ownage
That is a Templar, an Ammarr fighter used by carriers.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
Originally by: slothe
People moaned about the nanobs but there have been more powerful (strangely) ships in eve before, which were your favourites?
Personally i loved the 0 mass mwd cycle jamming torpedo blackbird any other favourites out there?
Torpedo BB had to be up there... OR the kestrel with 4 cruise launchers...
Also the artitempest, before tracking was implemented... Insta pop frigs orbiting you 5km away 4tw...
Dual mwd raven, back when torps hit frigs for full damage, was just nasty.
WTS: Kestrel with Cruise Missiles  (Still got it in my hangars btw if someone is really interested )
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Altrex Stoppel
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Esurnir
Originally by: Altrex Stoppel
Ownage
That is a Templar, an Ammarr fighter used by carriers.
I just had to post that pic
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Humpalot on 23/03/2007 01:22:45
As others have mentioned:
- Cruise Missile Kestrel
- Scorpion a few years ago
- Amarr ships before stacking nerf (lots of low slots = lots of damage mods = melt other ships fast)
Think today it has got to be the Dominix. Essentially two MAIN weapon systems (drones and guns) so it can either wail with that or toss the guns and go NOS and tank and ewar and do good damage all simultaneously.
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:47:00 -
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The dominix isn't even close to the only ship with two weapon systems, just one of the ships that effectively pulls it off.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.23 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tulisin Dragonflame
The dominix isn't even close to the only ship with two weapon systems, just one of the ships that effectively pulls it off.
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Sure there are ships with mixed weapons systems but they are a split setup. You trade off a high slot to fit a gun OR a missile launcher but can't do both.
Of course most ships have some drone bat but the Dominix has a HUGE drone bay compared to other ships.
In addition the Dominix gets effectively three bonuses: 5% Hybrid Damage, 10% Drone hitpoints and 10% drone damage.
So, its drones act like a primary weapon system and not just a little something extra. Then it can wallop with Blasters putting out staggering damage with the two combined. Or toss the blasters since you still have a primary weapon system in your drones and NOS the target to hell and back and run your tank forever since nothing else uses cap all the while nailing your target with ewar stuff.
I am not a big fan of nerfs but c'mon...that has a LOT going for it and I am missing the drawbacks.
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Admiral Seafort
DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2007.03.23 02:00:00 -
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I was just about to tell you that the Domi's drawback was that it looks awful. But then you edited your post.
EVE has no overpowered ships, only wonderful secrets to be discovered. And then nerfed.
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Steini OFSI
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.03.23 02:15:00 -
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Soleteur, the titan Serpentis stole from the Gallente Federation.
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits
Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.03.23 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
In addition the Dominix gets effectively three bonuses: 5% Hybrid Damage, 10% Drone hitpoints and 10% drone damage.
Show me a domi that uses that 5% hybrid bonus and it'll be a domi with no tank.
The domi can only fit large hybrids or more than one or two heavy nos by compromising its tank in a serious way.
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
I am not a big fan of nerfs but c'mon...that has a LOT going for it and I am missing the drawbacks (beyond it being the fugliest battleship in EVE).
Fly a Domi a few times, and I'll graciously let you retract that. You will realize that the Domi is a versatile ship, not an overpowered ship. It can't tank and gank. It can do many things, but it is restricted by grid, so choices need to de made.
Also, I'll grant you it's overpowered when I am able to shoot the guns and missile launchers off other ships. 
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Grez
Minmatar
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:30:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 23/03/2007 03:27:45
T2 Tachyon Apoc...
Used to be such a good sniper before the Tach nerf :(
As far as overpowered to-date goes...
Domi.
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IonHammer
Minmatar
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:33:00 -
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when i started out one of the most feared combo's was a bb and caracal spamming torps/cruise.
Then when inty's turned up cruise spamming crows were seriously good.
I enjoyed my >1 k dps geddon days as well.
Dual mwd raiders in ruprures or ravens were alwasy fun.
Lately nano ships seemd to be getting a lot of help form rigs and implants guess thats nerfed a fair bit now.
Although i guess we can be glad there are no cap ship ab's or mwd's imagine a 8 kms dread with sb's holy cow.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: SN3263827
Originally by: Humpalot
In addition the Dominix gets effectively three bonuses: 5% Hybrid Damage, 10% Drone hitpoints and 10% drone damage.
Show me a domi that uses that 5% hybrid bonus and it'll be a domi with no tank.
The domi can only fit large hybrids or more than one or two heavy nos by compromising its tank in a serious way.
Admittedly I have not flown a Domi and am not aware of its fitting issues. I fly Amarr ships though and have a hard time seeing the the Domi's downsides (at least on paper)
- Apocalypse (equivalent Amarr BS): 10% bonus to Large Energy Turret capacitor use and 5% maximum Capacitor Capacity per level. Drone Capacity 75 m3
- Dominix: 5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level. Drone Capacity 375 m3
So, my battleship (Amarr) burns a bonus just to run its guns for more than a minute or two leaving it with what...another bonus that allows it to shoot for another minute or two? And best I can field is three heavy drones? 
Dominix seems FAR more flexible in its setups. Can go for gank and deal serious damage with drones that dish out good damage AND blasters (highest damage guns in game). Or it can go NOS, run a tank, kill mine (especially mine being Amarr) dish out damage. Slap on tracking disruptors and/or sensor damps and/or jammers in the mids.
Seriously...looking at those two do they seem remotely in the same ballpark? Even if the Domi has issues fitting a full rack of blasters or NOS it has options an Apoc can't come close to.
Bottom line: In a duel would you pick an Apoc over a Domi? Ideally the balance should be that it would be a toss up and depending on setup and pilot skill either could win. I may be missing something but I am hard pressed to see how the Domi could ever lose to an Apoc unless the Domi pilot was mentally defective.
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Feronia Agrona
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:40:00 -
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How about the enigma?
7 High and low slots.. 8 med?
600 CPU and 250k Power grid.. oh yeah.. and its a friggy with an awesome red shield ;)
And don't be like 'zomg we never got to use that so it doesn't count here..'.. so you didn't get to use it..
/me reminisces of alpha testing days..
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JoeT
Amarr
Nuclear Rental Service
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: SN3263827
Originally by: Humpalot
In addition the Dominix gets effectively three bonuses: 5% Hybrid Damage, 10% Drone hitpoints and 10% drone damage.
Show me a domi that uses that 5% hybrid bonus and it'll be a domi with no tank.
The domi can only fit large hybrids or more than one or two heavy nos by compromising its tank in a serious way.
:) I love shield tanked domis in small gangs.. using 6 Ion Blaster Cannons.
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aeti
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:52:00 -
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I raise you dual mwd stabbed up cruise missile firing crows
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Veneth
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Posted - 2007.03.23 04:06:00 -
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The Caracal with the old missile system was amazing. heavy launchers packed with 5 cruise missiles or 2 torps.. you didn't need any other ship to do most anything
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Khadur
Minmatar
Spontaneous Defenestration
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Posted - 2007.03.23 04:45:00 -
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Dual mwd ravens with torps that did full dmg
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