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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Requiem of Hades
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Posted - 2007.03.23 08:59:00 -
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My constructive suggestion.
New content - Vivox.
Effects - 1) Forum unhappiness. 2) Not user friendly for players with multiple accounts because one instance of Vivox is active on per account basis. 3) Interoperability malfunction because a few have them and some don't.
What to do? A) CCP could give us Vivox for free on all accounts but raise subscription fee to 15.99. Everything else in the world has inflated why not eVe? eVe pricing has been the same since release. B) Introduce special deals. Buy 12 months eVe subscription in advance and get free Vivox for 12 months.
Good idea? Everyone is happy, CCP and us. CCP is 4TW.  --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:05:00 -
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they said they didnt want to add vivox costs to regular supscription fees because they dont want to penalize the people who are not going to use it.
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:08:00 -
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There are another 2 threads on page 1 of this forum already on this subject...
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Elgar Lightfoot
Lightfoot Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:09:00 -
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DEFINATELY NOT. EVE is already the most expensive MMO on the market, for us in the UK. I refuse to cough up even more cash to subsidise YOUR voice chat.
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WETRAIN
Minmatar R.U.S.T. Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:10:00 -
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Jenny are you at work atm ? i`m bored as **** too :(
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:33:00 -
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WTF is eVe?
And no, there is no reason at all to use the VOIP since its a downgrade from programs as Teamspeak and Ventrilo, let alone pay for it!
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u die
Minmatar Sugarcane Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
A) CCP could give us Vivox for free on all accounts but raise subscription fee to 15.99. Everything else in the world has inflated why not eVe? eVe pricing has been the same since release.
short version: worst idea ive heard since a while long version removed, it would not pass the profanity filter ________________________________________________
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Olsen'Kra
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:47:00 -
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Poor,poor Jennny, I wonder what thread you will come up with tomorrow.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.23 09:59:00 -
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We need to enable sound ingame for it to work right?
Sorry but I pass on this one.
And bring back the real Jenny
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Viliny
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:05:00 -
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1Ç =~ free
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned We need to enable sound ingame for it to work right?
Sorry but I pass on this one.
And bring back the real Jenny
Is this correct? I was considering getting vivox, but if it involves turning game sounds back on, then its a no-no.
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Viktor VonCarstein
Amarr Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:06:00 -
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So if I am reading this correctly I need to purchase Eve Voice for each one of my accounts.
If this is the case I will be sticking to contributing to our corp TS.
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Sahjahn
Caldari Black Wolves
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:07:00 -
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Quote: Good idea? Everyone is happy, CCP and us. CCP is 4TW.
I'm not paying money so YOU can use vivox. I don't need it and therefore should have to pay for it.
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Callthetruth
Caldari Logical Logtistics New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:17:00 -
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dodgy program no one wanted took em 2 motnhs of diverted programming time to get it working ( Could have been spent on better things) doesnt work with alts and now we have useless and only small corps will use it. Not one of CCPs brighter ideas
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:18:00 -
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Funny how if I want to use it, I have to pay, but if the bugs it introduces are FREE, GRATIS, NO CHARGE.
Now... given CCP's track record, I am willing to wager one years ViVox subscription that if I actually sign up the white elephant, I don't suffer the bugs I suffer from NOT signing up to it.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:19:00 -
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No thanks.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:46:00 -
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I've had to cancel my EVE subscription (and going to try to live off GTC's till things settle enough to come back with proper money). Making it more expensive for something as menial as VOIP (of which I dont need ever anyhow) for everyone (including those who dont need/want it) is stupid on a level I refuse to comment on due to the choice of words to describe it would give the profanity filter fits for days.
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:53:00 -
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EVE Voice is a premium feature, that mean's it costs a bit extra but it is not necessary to have it. I agree with some of the posters in this thread, we will not raise subscription price to pay for a feature not everyone wants or will use.
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Malcanis
Galactech Industries Ltd. Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire My constructive suggestion.
New content - Vivox.
Effects - 1) Forum unhappiness. 2) Not user friendly for players with multiple accounts because one instance of Vivox is active on per account basis. 3) Interoperability malfunction because a few have them and some don't.
What to do? A) CCP could give us Vivox for free on all accounts but raise subscription fee to 15.99. Everything else in the world has inflated why not eVe? eVe pricing has been the same since release. B) Introduce special deals. Buy 12 months eVe subscription in advance and get free Vivox for 12 months.
Good idea? Everyone is happy, CCP and us. CCP is 4TW. 
I don't particularly want Vivox, which means I don't want to pay for it. The fuss about this mystified me, until I remembered how many whiners there are on this forum.
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Jarjar
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.23 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire eVe pricing has been the same since release.
It most certainly has not! In 2003, I paid $12.95, or 90.4 SEK a month. Now, I pay 14.95 euro a month, or 139 SEK a month. That's an increase of 53.7%.
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire eVe pricing has been the same since release.
It most certainly has not! In 2003, I paid $12.95, or 90.4 SEK a month. Now, I pay 14.95 euro a month, or 139 SEK a month. That's an increase of 53.7%.
25% of that is VAT though, which we didn't have back at release. I blame the EU! Damn people trying to tell me a cucumber has to be straight and not curbed or it's not a cucumber. 
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Kaar
Spankage Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler I blame the EU! Damn people trying to tell me a cucumber has to be straight and not curbed or it's not a cucumber. 
Dude you have issues 
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Skarsnik
Caldari A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I blame the EU! Damn people trying to tell me a cucumber has to be straight and not curbed or it's not a cucumber. 
Dude you have issues 
It's actually true, there is an EU directive that stipulates that if a cucumber is not straight it cannot be classed as a cucumber. Something along those line. Crazy beaureucrats(sp?)  -------------
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Skarsnik
Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: CCP Wrangler I blame the EU! Damn people trying to tell me a cucumber has to be straight and not curbed or it's not a cucumber. 
Dude you have issues 
It's actually true, there is an EU directive that stipulates that if a cucumber is not straight it cannot be classed as a cucumber. Something along those line. Crazy beaureucrats(sp?) 
And suddenly some of the insanity here in the US doesn't seem quite so bad.
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:29:00 -
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A cucumber is not a cucumber if the maximum height of the arc exceeds 10 mm per 10 cm of the length of cucumber. The things you learn while browsing Eve-O forums 
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Valator Uel
Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:32:00 -
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What about making it free to listen, pay to talk?
Oh and Wrangler, can you please please tell someone to answer the questions in the OFFICIAL CCP EVE Voice thread? It's being totaly ignored and there are some honest questions/problems there. -----------------------------------------------------
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Caletha Reborn
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE Voice is a premium feature, that mean's it costs a bit extra but it is not necessary to have it. I agree with some of the posters in this thread, we will not raise subscription price to pay for a feature not everyone wants or will use.
Arent you afraid though that the inability to listen to eve-voice when you dont have a subscription leads to it not being used at all?
I mean everyone in a gang can listen to ventrilo/teamspeak without any additional cost (other then what the corp/alliance pays). With Eve-voice and not being able to listen to people (without the subscription) would mean only half the gang can listen.
Anyways, just my 2 cents. Our alliance will keep using ventrilo/teamspeak for gangs as its just not viable to use a system which only half the gang (if that) will pay for.
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Leneerra
Minmatar Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:43:00 -
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hmm, free to listen, pay to speak.. might solve a lot of comm clutter 
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Bon Hedus
Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 11:48:00 -
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To the OP. My ISP blocks/restricts port 5060 which is used by Vivox/Eve voice. What this means is that I am unable to use Eve Voice. So what you are saying is that you want me to pay for a service I am unable to use? I don't think so. I will stick to Vent. -------------------------------------- Heavy Lag Spike II belonging to EvE Cluster Node #0815 hits your Connection, wrecking your latency to 998ms |

Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.23 12:13:00 -
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Yeah that would be awsome Jenny, So great with to work with a eve-client with voice.
NOT
Vivox is in my opion a stupid ide, Annyone can setup a ts server for free, sure for the bigger corps / orgs u need a bigger ts server. But when 200+ppl share the respons its no worry.
Vivox is in my opion a ide wich havent been tought thrue proprley. This is not a thing eve needed in anny sense. When their is so much other things thats more importen or intrsting.
I would gladly pay more money if they just sorted the problems in 0.0. Like add 15mins logg off timer 24/7.
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