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Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.03.29 03:33:00 - [1] We have the mechanics in place already. Could be in all areas of space (Empire, Low sec, 0.0). Would be fun to host events, competitions, buddy fights, practice, etc. Accel Gates: Entrance -1st one for the fighters that want to fight each other -restricted to those that have an "arena pass"see below -2nd right next to it is for spectators -no restriction on amount that can go thru to watch Dead Space: Arena Spectators: can be launched from 2nd gate to a POS shield bubble type area or circle of bubbles around arena so they can move to different sides or change view. Can't be targetted and can't target but can watch or warp away. Arena collidible (like planets are on the inside but not as big) but transparent so they could see in but not go into. Combatants: can be launched into an arena. -CONCORD free zone (give it the mechanics of 0.0 inside only) -I'm thinking a sphere that is transparent but collidible. -Spectators couldn't fly into it (bumped away) or warp to a buddy inside (no warping inside deadspace). -Combatants can't fly out either for the same reason but can warp out if they are not scrambled, or if requested prior to match a set of warp scramble towers can hold ships to the death and only pods can warp out. - Arena passes -Can be gotten from an agent -Team A and B or red and blue have Captains that meet in a station -Think of a trade window but with options to select -number of ships per team 1-20 (or whatever) -death match (warp scramble towers) or chicken out (able to warp off) - any other options people could come up with -Both captains hit [accept] if they agree on terms -Each captain receives X amount of Arena passes (gate keys) that allow access to arena area First of all this is not a completely thought out idea. But the start should give an idea of what direction I was thinking and hopefully start a discussion on the possibility. Secondly let's not make it about yes or no on whether to have it since if it were to become a feature you can always choose to not participate. Thoughts? changes? improvements? _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.29 03:45:00 - [2] Why u wont search before posting ffs, we got topic like that 3 times a week:\| Usual responce: no to carebear pvp - go to 0.0. -------- Mass murderer, pure pvper and starcraft player =D
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.03.29 14:59:00 - [3] FFS? You saw the title of the post, you just HAD to reply in a negative manner. These forums have a no trolling policy btw. -I read the frequently requested topics sticky. -I don't recognize you as a forum authority, get over yourself -If people posting things you don't like bothers you so much you need to stay away from the forums, apparently YOU can't handle it. -The search function will give you 600 posts over the last 4 years, the search function needs options to search from <insert date> forward for it to be useful. -Finally read my post, it's stated that this is an idea and it would be nice for two things to happen, talk about the idea if your interested or stfu since it is JUST an IDEA, m'kay? Some people's kids I swear. _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.03.29 15:07:00 - [4] Here's an excerpt from an above sticky you should have read yourself: "Along with this, the RULES are going to be enforced at a more vigorous level. Please, read the forum rules, and pay attention to them. If you don't like someone's idea, but can't come up with a valid reason why - do not troll the thread. Do no attack them. Please _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
Venomous Angel Strife Mercenaries Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.29 18:04:00 - [5] Anyways !!!! Yeah Good Idea.. I believe An Arena would be kind of hard to manage & limited. BUT an Option to Duel each other would be great.. Or even an option for Gangs to Duel each other.. This would be a good training tool, and Fun.
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.03.29 18:30:00 - [6] Something else I was thinking of as well. Training: Set up so that each player in arena could fire at will on each other and when one reaches 10% hull they are invulnerable. Too many practice/training sessions have resulted in a few oopsies. King of the hill tournament:winner of any engagement receives a pass in their hold to advance to the next round. Winner from round 1 & 2 receive passes to round 3. Final contestant receives a Golden trophy ticket Could have options of to the death []yes []no where each person receiving pass clicks ok in pop up window to confirm. Disclaimer: This is not a idea for ALL of Eve. It's like PvP, mining, missions, POS's, etc. It would be a nice additional content that some will like and do and others may not and not do. It's called a choice. _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.03.29 21:02:00 - [7] No carebear pvp! Ever.
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.03.29 21:15:00 - [8] Originally by: VJ Maverick No carebear pvp! Ever. You and the other yahoo need to read the forum rules for this section. _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.29 23:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Lord Artemis Originally by: VJ Maverick No carebear pvp! Ever. You and the other yahoo need to read the forum rules for this section. You should read forum rules tho, because u would know that to request moderation u need to contact mods by emailing them, not typing on forum "omg u suck coz u didnt type why u dont like it on 3 pages but 5 words instead". -------- Mass murderer, pure pvper and starcraft player =D
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.03.29 23:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Valandril You should read forum rules tho, I have that's why I know your wrong for trolling and providing non-constructive or worthwhile input Originally by: Valandril because u would know that to request moderation u need to contact mods by emailing them, Already emailed Hopefully both of your trash replies will be removed soon. _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!

Isabella Montague Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.30 01:15:00 - [11] I like it. It gives the opportunity of having fair fights instead of going to 0.0 and getting ganked 3 or more v 1. Same with the training. I know EVE is about risk v reward, but I'm sure even in a universe like that you wouldn't want to blow your friend up and would have "safety protocols" in place. Either have your ship stop you automatically from laying the final blow or having "simulated damage." Simulated damage would consist of a counterpart of all the ammo in eve. "Dummy ammo" if you will. Using this ammo has the exact same effects live counterpart would have, but once a kill is scored or all of the opposing teams ships are killed, then the simulation is over and all ships revert back to their original state.
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.30 01:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Isabella Montague I like it. It gives the opportunity of having fair fights instead of going to 0.0 and getting ganked 3 or more v 1. Same with the training. I know EVE is about risk v reward, but I'm sure even in a universe like that you wouldn't want to blow your friend up and would have "safety protocols" in place. Either have your ship stop you automatically from laying the final blow or having "simulated damage." Simulated damage would consist of a counterpart of all the ammo in eve. "Dummy ammo" if you will. Using this ammo has the exact same effects live counterpart would have, but once a kill is scored or all of the opposing teams ships are killed, then the simulation is over and all ships revert back to their original state. Go to sisi ? Free pvp for all And as stated already, this is carebearing pvp, nothing to do with real one so it suck. 1vs1 pvp is not dead, say hi to lowsec. -------- Mass murderer, pure pvper and starcraft player =D
Isabella Montague Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.30 02:05:00 - [13] Edited by: Isabella Montague on 30/03/2007 02:01:21 Originally by: Valandril 1vs1 pvp is not dead, say hi to lowsec. And what exactly is it that makes it 1 v 1 pvp? There's nothing stopping 3rd or even 4th parties from interfering. If you haven't noticed, Honor isn't something that's running rampant through the EVE universe. If someone sees a target that's engaged with someone else and is hurting badly, there's nothing stopping them from swooping in for the kill. The OP's suggestion would keep non involved parties out. Other MMO's have arenas, why not EVE?
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.30 02:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Isabella Montague Edited by: Isabella Montague on 30/03/2007 02:01:21 Originally by: Valandril 1vs1 pvp is not dead, say hi to lowsec. And what exactly is it that makes it 1 v 1 pvp? There's nothing stopping 3rd or even 4th parties from interfering. If you haven't noticed, Honor isn't something that's running rampant through the EVE universe. If someone sees a target that's engaged with someone else and is hurting badly, there's nothing stopping them from swooping in for the kill. The OP's suggestion would keep non involved parties out. Other MMO's have arenas, why not EVE? Because eve is like real life, its not fair. Scamming, trapping, loggofski its all viaable tactics in eve. Almost like in real life. This is what makes eve different from all other MMOS where pvp is designed for carebears. -------- Mass murderer, pure pvper and starcraft player =D

ReverendM Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.30 02:26:00 - [15] Shuffles janitors out of the thread and posts Marines Thread Cleaned As has been repeated, if you don't like an idea - come up with a logical reason why. "Cause I doesn't leik its" is not acceptable. Thank you though for pointing out this is a common thread. It's been added to the common ideas index. -ReverendM eve-crc.net \| Common Ideas \| Forum Rules

Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.03.30 04:02:00 - [16] Valandril, a) You don't have to use it. b) It will not keep anyone from having PvP. c) If noob players (under a year) get a chance to use it and build up their confidence this will lead to more PvP. d) You don't like the idea, your opinion is noted and your entitled to feel that way. If you have nothing more to add then I'm asking you to stop repeating yourself. Everyone can see your thoughts are "no", why don't you go PvP. _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
velocity7	Posted - 2007.03.31 03:24:00 - [17] Here's another idea to expand; have a PVP Simulation Arena in stations. Basically, there'd be a new button right under "Undock", and instead it takes you to a screen allowing you to enter PVP arenas across the entire EVE Universe. Simply pick an arena with certain regulations and go. If you die in there, you get sent back to a screen confirming respawn or return to the station. :)
Emylissan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.03.31 03:30:00 - [18] Or that specific battles could be all virtuel battles in a kind of matrix. So to say an online game inside an online game :P
Kenji Noguchi APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:59:00 - [19] I fully support this. Currently, there is no way to do real combat competitions; every time somebody tries to organize one, he has to fight game mechanics to be able to do it without CONCORD interfeering or griefers coming and ruining the event. And, of course, there is no way to challenge somebody to a honorable duel. That would be great too! Kenji Noguchi, Caldari State warrior. APEX Unlimited Security Division.
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.08 05:45:00 - [20] Strongly against it. If you want to do free pvp do it on sisi. This would be like having arena in Lineage 2 or battlegrounds in WoW. Honestly, it's really not needed for eve - and it would imo destroy the game. There are alliance/corp tournaments etc if you want to test yourself. But all people should learn "proper" pvp. I can't even imagine dealing with the gazillion of forum flooders who think they are uber in the arena. Besides arena would have a fraction of what real pvp is like - finding targets, anticipating movements etc etc... I doubt any good pvper will support a such thing... The idea is good, just not for EvE. PvP in EvE should be special. But hey - that's my opinion. N.F.F. Recruitment

Emylissan Gallente European Science Armada	Posted - 2007.04.08 08:32:00 - [21] One thing i read in this forum ever and ever again is: Eve is focused on PVP; Everything in EVE is PVP; And an arena is only another kind of PVP so why not establish an arena than? When EVE is that strong focused on PVP why not offer as much kinds of PVP as possible? ----------------------------------------------------- Everyone who finds a type error can keep it. -----------------------------------------------------
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.08 08:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Emylissan One thing i read in this forum ever and ever again is: Eve is focused on PVP; Everything in EVE is PVP; And an arena is only another kind of PVP so why not establish an arena than? When EVE is that strong focused on PVP why not offer as much kinds of PVP as possible? Because its not real pvp, its pvp for carebears who wan't fair fights and prefferably in simulator to not risk any isk. And eve like real life is all around fights and war, ecomomy w/o wars and fights anyone ? -------- "You are receiving this notice in regard to the post below which appeared in our forum on 06/04/2007 22:16:31. Personal attacks (commonly referred to as flames) are not permitted on the foru
Emylissan Gallente European Science Armada	Posted - 2007.04.08 08:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Valandril Originally by: Emylissan One thing i read in this forum ever and ever again is: Eve is focused on PVP; Everything in EVE is PVP; And an arena is only another kind of PVP so why not establish an arena than? When EVE is that strong focused on PVP why not offer as much kinds of PVP as possible? Because its not real pvp, its pvp for carebears who wan't fair fights and prefferably in simulator to not risk any isk. And eve like real life is all around fights and war, ecomomy w/o wars and fights anyone ? When you compare to the present situation in eve to real life, i must live in another world than you. In my world there is no right of the strongest evereywhere. I dont have to fear death from a rifle when going to the market store. And my world is full of risk free competitions. Every sports for example, combat sports and others. When your world is like EVE i am happy i live in mine :P^^ ----------------------------------------------------- Everyone who finds a type error can keep it. -----------------------------------------------------
Hasiti	Posted - 2007.04.09 04:28:00 - [24] Good idea. it could simply be like a simulator in a station (think about the new patch with walking in station). You would plug your character in the matrix and you would start a tournament vs other players. Like Unreal tournament in EVE :)
Wander Lost	Posted - 2007.04.10 13:44:00 - [25] Typically if i wanted to Duel someone i'd call them out to a lone sector of 0.4 space and go at it. An area to specifically do the deed is pointless unless it gave incentives (rewards) or advantages to battle. If an arena where ships could battle without fear of loss then PVP on the grand scale would be affected with people flooding the few areas you could do this. While perhaps an event type arena that opens weekly to allow a "sporting" type of battle, almost olympiad, may suit the background of EVE - Allowed too frequently would destroy the nature of war.
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.10 14:06:00 - [26] Originally by: Wander Lost battle without fear of loss then PVP Never on tq never Go on test server --- Alexandra Frigaro > These RISE guys have a better spawn rate than angels...
Emylissan Gallente European Science Armada	Posted - 2007.04.10 14:11:00 - [27] Originally by: Wander Lost Typically if i wanted to Duel someone i'd call them out to a lone sector of 0.4 space and go at it. An area to specifically do the deed is pointless unless it gave incentives (rewards) or advantages to battle. If an arena where ships could battle without fear of loss then PVP on the grand scale would be affected with people flooding the few areas you could do this. While perhaps an event type arena that opens weekly to allow a "sporting" type of battle, almost olympiad, may suit the background of EVE - Allowed too frequently would destroy the nature of war. When the only reason why people in eve pvping is the battle itself than you are right, but those corporation which fight for territory and power wont get any of that in an arena fight. And in the Arena you wont get loot i think cause the ships are virtual or owned by the arena, fitted with training weapons of some kind. ----------------------------------------------------- Everyone who finds a type error can keep it. -----------------------------------------------------
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.10 16:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Emylissan Originally by: Wander Lost Typically if i wanted to Duel someone i'd call them out to a lone sector of 0.4 space and go at it. An area to specifically do the deed is pointless unless it gave incentives (rewards) or advantages to battle. If an arena where ships could battle without fear of loss then PVP on the grand scale would be affected with people flooding the few areas you could do this. While perhaps an event type arena that opens weekly to allow a "sporting" type of battle, almost olympiad, may suit the background of EVE - Allowed too frequently would destroy the nature of war. When the only reason why people in eve pvping is the battle itself than you are right, but those corporation which fight for territory and power wont get any of that in an arena fight. And in the Arena you wont get loot i think cause the ships are virtual or owned by the arena, fitted with training weapons of some kind. Its already here, we call it test server. Its real --- Alexandra Frigaro > These RISE guys have a better spawn rate than angels...
Ahz	Posted - 2007.04.18 22:43:00 - [29] How about tourney rounds? You'd load your ship with a tournament round (or crystal) and it would fire as normal. It would do "damage" in blue, rather than red, to your target. Of course no real damage would be done. You'd be able to duel with corp mates or whoever without any fear of destroying their ship. An icon appears on their ship when they've gone through structure. Their shields, armor and hull would read as blue until they went through some reset process.
DuAel Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.04.25 17:43:00 - [30] I like it. Scrambling towers is imperative. Those who lose have to lose something.



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