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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kallanagh Tellen on 11/04/2007 13:40:01
Two weeks? Why do I get the feeling I've heard similar engagements MANY times over the years. I very much doubt thet PIE will scatter under this current threat, indeed any other.
Edit: damned spelling
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:49:00 -
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before you boys and girls get too excited, just remember it was Rodj that came up with the 2 weeks thing.
Setting things up, claiming someone else said them, then proving them wrong and then crowing about how good you are has got to be low, even for you guys (and yes, I know I say this in spite of all available evidence - but I do live in hope).
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Edited by: Kallanagh Tellen on 11/04/2007 13:40:01
Two weeks? Why do I get the feeling I've heard similar engagements MANY times over the years. I very much doubt thet PIE will scatter under this current threat, indeed any other.
Edit: damned spelling
Indeed not.
SF are merely the latest in a long line of enemies to claim that PIE was all but finished.
Many of those enemies are now no more, while PIE is still around.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 11/04/2007 13:51:08
Originally by: Sable Schroedinger before you boys and girls get too excited, just remember it was Rodj that came up with the 2 weeks thing.
Setting things up, claiming someone else said them, then proving them wrong and then crowing about how good you are has got to be low, even for you guys (and yes, I know I say this in spite of all available evidence - but I do live in hope).
Oh come on now.
Are you saying that SF can't destroy an enemy with no skill, no courage, and no honour within two weeks? An enemy that gets swiftly annihilated every time they undock?
Or could it be that you know that PIE is actually doing a lot better than your Stir Fiction propagandists would have us all believe?
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Heero Yuy Where is the point in presenting logic and reason to people who themselves have no care for either? From the very inception of this conflict you have done your best to twist and subvert the simple facts - those being that you have shown no skill, no honour and no courage. Your best so far is a lucky draw; the entire remainder consists of running, docking and being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to your own disorganisation and because you do not dare to stand and fight.
All you can muster in opposition is a small brigade of semi-accomplished liars on these forums. And you talk about standards?
The leadership of the Amarr Loyalist organisations has formulated a strategy for this war as well as the many other wars we are currently involved in. I'm sure Star Fraction leadership has done the same for you.
To be absolutely frank about it, the quality of said strategies are not for you to decide - nor me for that matter. The value of said strategies will actually not be decided by anyone. It will not even be decided on the battlefield. History is full of conflicts where one side might have lost every major battle but still won the war. Consequently, the value of the strategies used by either our sides will not be seen until the smoke clears.
If you have achieved what you set out to do when going into this war, you may claim success - according to your objectives. We may do the same according to ours. We might even find ourselves in a position where we may both claim victory. When reviewing those objectives publicly stated by both sides, I find it very likely that we shall.
So you see, in the end your opininon on the matter of the strategies used is irrelevant - and so is the opinion of everyone else, including myself.
To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so.
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Heero Yuy
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 13:55:59
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Oh come on now.
Are you saying that SF can't destroy an enemy with no skill, no courage, and no honour within two weeks? An enemy that gets swiftly annihilated every time they undock?
Or could it be that you know that PIE is actually doing a lot better than your Stir Fiction propagandists would have us all believe?
No, it can't be. However, I'm perfectly sure that PIE will still be around in 2 weeks, simply because your policy is not to engage us unless you have overwhelming superiority in numbers. Also, of course you are able to undock freely and without risk if you so choose. You can do so almost anywhere in the known universe in fact, except, that is, in and around your capital.....
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:02:00 -
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I think that PIE has proven it has great patience over the years.
With enough patience, a man can sit safely in station for ever. It served as KD and CYI's battle tactic for the period of their wars. It destroyed KD and whilst CYI "live", that life is nothing more than a joke.
You're laying a rather blatant and obvious trap Mr B. I expected better of you.
Now, what it'll come down to at the end of the day is what do people define as "live" as far as PIE is concerned. And i think thats where all the true fighting will happen - because if the past week is anything to go by, it sure as hell won't happen in space. --------------------------------------------
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Heero Yuy
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Octavinus Augustus To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so.
But then we have never claimed to be winning. In fact, it is patently impossible to win against an enemy who lacks the courage to actively engage. Which you do.
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sable Schroedinger before you boys and girls get too excited, just remember it was Rodj that came up with the 2 weeks thing.
Setting things up, claiming someone else said them, then proving them wrong and then crowing about how good you are has got to be low, even for you guys (and yes, I know I say this in spite of all available evidence - but I do live in hope).
Genius Sable..... Just.. genius.
I see I shall have to speak slower in future.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Heero Yuy
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so.
But then we have never claimed to be winning.
I don't know about you, but where I come from "...being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to... ...disorganisation" is a description of somebody that's losing.
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Heero Yuy
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:27:02
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen I see I shall have to speak slower in future.
You should undock and fight a bit first, so that you have anything at all to speak about.
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Tomahawk Bliss
INTAKI UNION The OSS
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:34:00 -
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that is because propaganda sounds better when you lace it with poetic prose and metaphor. it does have a psychological effect of people, whether we want to admit it or not. When a thing is said enough time, at least some of it bleeds through as truth to our minds.
that is why all this effort is spent on publicizing the war. We all know it, but that doesn't really change the effect post after post of the same supposition can have.
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Heero Yuy
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so.
But then we have never claimed to be winning.
I don't know about you, but where I come from "...being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to... ...disorganisation" is a description of somebody that's losing.
"Losing" and "lost" are entirely different things and can be separated by more than a mere 2 weeks.
Not that it matters, we have patience and resolves to at least match PIE.
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Heero Yuy
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:33:01
Originally by: Rodj Blake I don't know about you, but where I come from "...being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to... ...disorganisation" is a description of somebody that's losing.
Now now, don't be pathetic. This is of course exactly the kind of word-twisting you think, erroneously, that you're so good at. Even the most casual reader will instantly realise that there is a difference between winning the battles and winning the war, particularly in this war where the battles are few and far between due to your refusal to engage. You frankly do yourself and your cause no favours whatsoever by by being so obvious and so inept.
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Nekumi
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
that is because propaganda sounds better when you lace it with poetic prose and metaphor. it does have a psychological effect of people, whether we want to admit it or not. When a thing is said enough time, at least some of it bleeds through as truth to our minds.
that is why all this effort is spent on publicizing the war. We all know it, but that doesn't really change the effect post after post of the same supposition can have.
Indeed, I would be much happier if the people who seem so intent on flapping their gums would involve themselves directly in the conflict in space instead of insisting on continued excrement flinging on galnet.
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Heero Yuy Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:27:02
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen I see I shall have to speak slower in future.
You should undock and fight a bit first, so that you have anything at all to speak about.
All in good time my vocal little friend.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 11/04/2007 14:42:51 So we lack the courage to engage...
But yet we fought a battle in which the total losses on both sides numbered in the tens of thousands of crew on both sides in which Amarr recovered the bulk of the casualties and equipment... a grand total of three days ago.
Or should courage to engage in your vocabulary read as "willingness to commit suicide."
We will and have engaged your forces, we will lose some and we will win some. When you leave Amarr haveing realised the futility of your cause, we will still be there, and you will have never stopped takeing casualties.
The only person I see who lacks courage to engage is your "ally" of the many mercenaries.
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen
Originally by: Heero Yuy Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:27:02
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen I see I shall have to speak slower in future.
You should undock and fight a bit first, so that you have anything at all to speak about.
All in good time my vocal little friend.
you wardecc'd 10 days ago, how long do you need?!!!
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri So we lack the courage to engage...
But yet we fought a battle in which the total losses on both sides numbered in the tens of thousands of crew on both sides in which Amarr recovered the bulk of the casualties and equipment... a grand total of three days ago.
Or should courage to engage in your vocabulary read as "willingness to commit suicide."
The only person I see who lacks courage to engage is your "ally" of the many mercenaries.
We are willing to die for our cause, its sad to see you don't share an equal commitment to yours.
It is also sad to see that your view of war is one engagement in 10 days. You only prove our point, each and every time you cling to that one battle like a drowning man. --------------------------------------------
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:53:00 -
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I eagerly await your request for Revan to be silent till she actually is involved in conflict in Amarr with something other than her mercenaries, Mr. Sable.
Until then, I believe any statements that Amarrians who have not fought you because they had other things to do should probably be kept silent, unless you like confirming to everyone who might read this thread how much of a double standard you hold on such issues. Or is it that you are saying that VV as a whole hasnt fought you? In which case, are you still trying to beat out Revan as CVA court jester with such blatant lies?
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:58:00 -
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I think you'll find it wasn't me that asked anyone to be quiet. Why would I? Its like a comedy club in here.
S'ok though, I forgive you. I'm sure all us lesser beings must look the same to you - I'm the skinny albino one by the way.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 15:01:00 -
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You are an unusually loud braggart, Mr. Sable, I would suggest that your insults require at least some element of truth to them if they are expected to hit a mark.
Unless you really are in some sort of competition with Revan, in which case I wish you good luck as you have no chance.
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.04.11 15:02:00 -
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Such Hypocracy seems to be the way of the fractionist as of late, a shame since there are some of your number who actually portray quite noble qualities.
Nevermind perhaps this is a matter for internal discussion to a degree, I believe that this may be an issue of dicipline and as such something for the SF officers to hopefully address.
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri You are an unusually loud braggart, Mr. Sable, I would suggest that your insults require at least some element of truth to them if they are expected to hit a mark.
Unless you really are in some sort of competition with Revan, in which case I wish you good luck as you have no chance.
Loud? Me?! Thats a first. I'm usually being shouted at to "speak up" on coms.
As for the rest, I'm afraid, again, you've missed the mark. A quick review of previous posts above - and it was really quick, so I'm not going to claim too much - suggests in one part you've confused me with a woman (not the first time I admit. Some people really do have something against Intaki) and in the second case a Minmatar. Now THAT is a first!
As for your friends comments about discipline... I mean, really! Don't have a go at us in one breath about being unruly anarchists and in the next talk about "internal discipline".
And I have no interest in Reven's job at all.
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Heero Yuy
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.11 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 11/04/2007 14:42:51 So we lack the courage to engage...
That's about the size of it, yes.
Quote: But yet we fought a battle in which the total losses on both sides numbered in the tens of thousands of crew on both sides in which Amarr recovered the bulk of the casualties and equipment... a grand total of three days ago.
So you have mustered a little courage a grand total of...1 time. Bravo!
Quote: Or should courage to engage in your vocabulary read as "willingness to commit suicide."
Not at all, you should bring as many ships as you want and feel comfortable with. It makes no difference to us; it is not as if fighting outnumbered is new to the Fraction. Just come, won't ya??
Quote: We will and have engaged your forces
Yeah. Once.
Quote: we will lose some
You will.
Quote: we will win some
You might. Then again, you might not.
Quote: When you leave Amarr haveing realised the futility of your cause, we will still be there, and you will have never stopped takeing casualties.
As if taking casualties is of any concern. You're the ones doing your level best to avoid any such, not us.
Quote: The only person I see who lacks courage to engage is your "ally" of the many mercenaries.
What they do or don't do is of no concern whatsoever to us.
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Kremnican
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:09:00 -
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I always wondered... Doesn't Pax Amarria contain stations schematics? PIE & Co seems to be bit "lost", missing the corridors leading to the docking ports.
I have to admit that my wallet is hurt by this war. I'm spending money on girls, drinks and holoreels just to kill the boredom (will you get a killmail for it?).
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kremnican I always wondered... Doesn't Pax Amarria contain stations schematics? PIE & Co seems to be bit "lost", missing the corridors leading to the docking ports.
Why would a treatise on Amarrian foreign policy under Heideran VII contain station schematics? I knew that some Stir Fiction members had trouble with their reading comprehension, but I must confess that even I'm amazed that they would be confused by the diagrams as well.
Quote: I have to admit that my wallet is hurt by this war. I'm spending money on girls, drinks and holoreels just to kill the boredom (will you get a killmail for it?).
Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet.
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Nekumi
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet.
Never let a drunken scout something something... Hey are those my shoes?
Pretty sure there was no waltzing, I'd never miss a good dance.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:51:00 -
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Quote: Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet.
I concur with that assumption Admiral Blake. These misfits of anarchy were in fact planning their next "attack" on our holy Empire itself. Read this excerpt from Shastal yesterday to see their "evil plan" for our Empire
[ 2007.04.11 20:09:26 ] Scorpio Dantes > City of God, huh? I could probably sell some holoreels there [ 2007.04.11 20:09:37 ] Madelchai > A fine idea! [ 2007.04.11 20:09:41 ] Archbishop > But Amarr shone through and carried the day. Our god did not abandon us. Rather he allowed us sinners to redeem ourselves. [ 2007.04.11 20:09:43 ] Devilish Ledoux > God loves nudie pics, I'm sure [ 2007.04.11 20:09:57 ] Maddock Krug > /emote chuckles [ 2007.04.11 20:09:58 ] Madelchai > He'd not have made us look so good naked if not, I'd think. [ 2007.04.11 20:10:09 ] Scorpio Dantes > Nudie pics? NUDIE PICS? My films are much more than mere smut. [ 2007.04.11 20:10:18 ] Archbishop > But sin is always with us [ 2007.04.11 20:10:24 ] Madelchai > Do tell us more, Mr. Dantes! [ 2007.04.11 20:10:26 ] Archbishop > The danger is always present if we are not on guard. [ 2007.04.11 20:10:32 ] Scorpio Dantes > Sin! Now this sermon is getting interesting!
I heard they were fitting a rusty bestower as we speak!
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:35:00 -
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Hate to tell you this, Archie, but the House of Myriad Sweaty Distractions doesn't sell to religious nuts. Which is a shame, since you look like you could use a good, sweaty distraction. _
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