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The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.30 23:58:00 - [1] The Star Fraction declares war on PIE Inc. The Free Captains of the Star Fraction give notice of our intent to commit to sanctioned war against the pilots and free-standing assets of PIE Inc. as of one minute after midnight this evening (EVE standard time). In the coming weeks, the Star Fraction is resolved to demonstrate that the very heartlands of the Amarr Empire are unsafe for its supporters and that we û anarchists, rebels, terrorists and outlaws that we may be û can and will operate against loyalist forces in the capital of the Empire and throughout the surrounding systems, constellations and regions. We note that an officer of the Imperial Navy has stated that the Empire and its Navy cannot 'be bothered to police every petty capsuleer organization' and we take them at their word. We will be happy to deny the loyalist paramilitaries of PIE safe use of Imperial space at every opportunity that arises. They are supporters of a corrupt, capricious and oppressive empire; they are our avowed foes; and they took it upon themselves to intervene in our conflict with the now defunct Kimotoro Directive under the absurd cover of 'live-fire exercises'. We look forward to seeing if an organisation that can spare the logistical effort to interfere in a third-party dispute in the Mito constellation will defend its honour and its founding principles in the very heart of the Empire to which it swears fealty. Already, the system of Amarr has played host to dealers in holoerotica, proscribed drugs and substances, and embargoed small arms. The goods in which the entrepeneurs of the Star Fraction have variously traded in the capital of the Empire are without meaningful limit. The customs authorities of the Empire are inept, suffering from a visible laxity and lack of will, and even Imperial servicemen on leave have expressed interest in the products of Dantes Productions û a holoerotica house that famously operates out of the legendary 'rusty Bestower parked by the Emperor Station Monument'. Anarcho-capitalist private enterprise is in full swing in Amarr and the Imperial authorities have no interest in stopping it, despite the calls by some paramilitaries to have us barred from Imperial space by force. Now the paramilitaries will have their opportunity to do something about the activities they so despise. The fighters of the Star Fraction will wage war against the Amarr Empire's capsuleer lackies the better to oppose the spread of the tyrannical 'order' that is espoused by the Empire and all who support it. We begin this fight against the Amarrian paramilitary group that has for so long considered its pilots the paramount 'Defenders of the Empire' and which is for many a symbol of Amarrian loyalism amongst capsuleers. Long has the cluster been told of the strength and will of PIE and its pilots û the so-called 'Praetorians' û and we are assured that PIE is a capable and well-equipped force. We do not underestimate them or the ferocity of the coming struggle and if other 'loyalists' flock to aid PIE, so be it. The Star Fraction fights for the true promise and hope of the future and we will bring that promise and hope to the very heart of the Empire as we live, speak and fight in furtherance and realisation of our philosophy and in opposition to those who worship power while lacking the will to seize it for themselves. ~ all subjects of an empire are slaves; those who do not know they are slaves are also fools ~
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:05:00 - [2] Reserved and first Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve.
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:13:00 - [3] I see the price of White Noise Generators will be rising in Amarr soon, then. NEWEST MOVIE : RECRUITMENT 2007
ZeusCommander Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:22:00 - [4] This could get interesting :) GL to all involved!
Yoshito Sanders Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:30:00 - [5] The Aegis Militia will support it's allies in PIE in wiping out the stain known as Star Fraction. Enjoy your final days, heretics.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Yo**o Sanders The Aegis Militia will support it's allies in PIE in wiping out the stain known as Star Fraction. Enjoy your final days, heretics. Baaaaaaaaaah. _
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:37:00 - [7] For once, I support the actions of Star Fraction. May your missiles strike true. ___ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom of Freedom
Camperific Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:51:00 - [8] Good luck Star Fraction.Hope you get some good kills Axen.
Soratah Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.03.31 01:06:00 - [9] Alas, it seems that there can be no peace anymore between the outspoken pilots of Star Fraction and the Amarr Empire. Apart from being having our ears assaulted with "open letters" and "conclusive memetic studies" must have been severely annoyed, upon their discovery that the Empire, benign as it is, has been switching off and censoring the rhetoric from their mouths. What foolish notions that SF have to actually believe that the Empire itself, along with it's controlling governments would ACTUALLY allow the population in general to listen to their highly... intellectual statements that the general population in the Empire find highly irrelevant. So.. what did Star Fraction's "demonstration" actually achieve here? Indifference, indifference from the Amarr Empire in regards to their antics in Amarr local. Also indifference from the loyalist Amarrian paramilitaries who, although have found SF's activities annoying, just not important enough for extreme actions like war declarations. The Empire is under control by the religious state, it's people have been living with God since the foundation of the Empire. The paramilitaries are still supportive of the Empire and it's people. Out of general principles it just seems better to ignore their political theories, but of course, defend ourselves when our eventual indifference goads them into war. sighs heavily A pity, many of us were getting good at ignoring SF. Now, I'll guess we'll just have to shoot at them until they go away... sighs again Regards.
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.03.31 01:37:00 - [10] I doubt you will need luck, so instead I will wish you good hunting fortune.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.31 01:41:00 - [11] Come and die then, Anarchists. But die knowing that your war, like the aimless cause that fuels it, will be utterly fruitless, even if you gain some success on the battlefield. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Van Cleef Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.31 01:56:00 - [12] The war against terrorists and anarachist rabble is a war that spans all the Nations of Eve. It is unfortunate that Star Fraction has brought war to the Empire relams again. ------------------------------------------------ CEO and Admiral of the Fleet Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.03.31 02:10:00 - [13] Hmm it seems that the Star Fraction has more members but an utter lack of skill in their fighters. Having fought and easily crushed them before I say that even PIE could destroy them. It shall be interesting to see. This sig is secured by Chuck Norris. Don't mess with the man!
Parallax Error Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 02:31:00 - [14] Edited by: Parallax Error on 31/03/2007 02:29:49 Edited by: Parallax Error on 31/03/2007 02:29:16 Oh dear. Praetorians, I expect you to deal with this minor incursion as you would any other. I'm sure the CVA will stand with you as and when you get bored with this self important, barely-sensical, anarchical-yet-want-to-be-godlike, folly. PIE are not the Cyrene Initiative or Kimtoro Directive, this wont be a cheap publicity war. ((OOC: Damn my spelling))
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.31 03:10:00 - [15] I'll be watching with interest. Learn what it means to be Caldari with Omerta Syndicate
Malvan Minmatar Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2007.03.31 07:19:00 - [16] Edited by: Malvan on 31/03/2007 07:16:22 And here I was, eagerly awaiting the first reply from PIE. Anticipating their legendary rapier wit, their infallible arguments, their irrefutable logic. Imagine, then, my disappointment... Malvan. 'A flag that has no nation makes an enemy of the world' - The Golden Apple.
Wanoah Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.31 07:21:00 - [17] Good hunting, Star Fraction. Kick these oppressive zealots back to the dark ages where they belong.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.31 08:28:00 - [18] I will enjoy this. ----------------------------------------------
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 08:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Gaius Kador I will enjoy this. As will I.
Micia Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.31 09:32:00 - [20] Fly without fear; Strike without mercy. _______ Oppressed? Enslaved? Stand up and fight back!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.03.31 09:51:00 - [21] ♫♪Wade in the water Wade in the water children Wade in the water ♪ God's gonna trouble the water... ♫♪ Beautiful song for a sunny morning. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.03.31 10:18:00 - [22] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Come and die then, Anarchists. But die knowing that your war, like the aimless cause that fuels it, will be utterly fruitless, even if you gain some success on the battlefield. This looks like a plea for mercy rather than a threat. Good hunting, Star Fraction. Make them suffer.
Celes Tenebrae Lightning Struck Tower	Posted - 2007.03.31 12:23:00 - [23] Good hunting Star Fraction. Enlighten them. Khanid Canonical Resources
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.31 12:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Gaius Kador Not quite, peon, but in times such as these a straw must be quite the comfort. Karn chuckles Straw? Never heard her called that, tooth-pick yes, but not straw. His smile drops I have no need for comfort slaver, the way forwards is clear. Any attack on your oppressive beliefs is a good thing. Be it fire bomb throwing students rebelling against the false ideals of 'peace at all costs' or the might of the Republic Fleet, stirred to war by a capable leader. While one free man or woman resists you, you have failed. ----------------------------------------- Now recruiting.
KayO MercenaryZ Fate Weavers	Posted - 2007.03.31 12:55:00 - [25] The opposition against the deceitful and inhumane empire grows daily, change is coming yet they are too blind to see it. ((gl and hf all involved))
Svenjabi Xiang Gallente Dark Intentions Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.31 13:13:00 - [26] And so it has finaly come. God luck SF. Fly well and free.
Callistus Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.31 13:29:00 - [27] War, as they say, is good for business. If either side wishes to get that extra edge in combat you know who to talk to. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Lexiana Del'Amore Gallente Equilibrium Society	Posted - 2007.03.31 13:30:00 - [28] Hmmm, Terrorists Vs Slavers... I see this as a win win situation, and therefor wish both parties involved no luck at all and heavy casualities on both sides. Equilibrium Society [.EQS.] is recruiting, visit our Forums
Nautark Mniachei The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.03.31 13:48:00 - [29] Originally by: The Cosmopolite ~ all subjects of an empire are slaves; those who do not know they are slaves are also fools ~ All of Creation is The One God's Domain. The difference between us is that we know we are His servants.
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.03.31 14:15:00 - [30] Both sides are arrogant and self-righteous, but I thik at least PIE Inc have some justification for being so. My money is on PIE Inc Khaldari Research Services BPO Shop KPA Recruiting!
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 15:07:00 - [31] Name a figure and I'll meet the wager.
Yohn Kalvin	Posted - 2007.03.31 15:14:00 - [32] PIE inc has proven through words and deeds their commitment to God and Empire. What has the SF proven? That they can write long and boring treaties on meaningless rantings? Good luck to the SF, they are going to need it. PIE doesnt need luck...they have God and Empire behind them! Yohn Kalvin
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.03.31 15:22:00 - [33] I find Star Fractions timing quite interesting. It can't be a coincidence that whenever Star Fraction fights there is at least one pirate-organisation flying besides them. Gives some vague support to the theory that they're not so much terrorists and anarchists in heart, but instead that this "ideology" is only there to obfuscate what is in truth an enforcer-organisation for a wide-spanning network of pirate corperations. ...either that or they're just afraid of fighting the para-militaries of Amarr on their own. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
fedor345 Caldari FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 15:26:00 - [34] Edited by: fedor345 on 31/03/2007 15:23:18 if i choose now i would say they dont fight alone, if there are the same pirate things they could very well be hired wich is abit shamefull seeing as they say they are doing this in the name of god.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.31 15:41:00 - [35] So we're at war with yet another terrorist/anarchist organisation. They seem to spring from the rocks every so often. I did read the OP with some interest though, as it states very little as to the purpose of this war with regards to when SF will consider it "won". SF will commence operations in the heartlands of the Empire, they state. That would be satisfied simply by sending an interceptor or two to Amarr every other day for a week and then claim victory. Let me state this clearly: Before this war PIE and her allies have used Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations. During this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations. After this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations. This war will continue until the time when SF sees the immensity of the task they have engaged in - and then they will be scurrying off back to whatever holes they came from (unless of course we decide to root them out first). Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 16:09:00 - [36] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus SF will commence operations in the heartlands of the Empire, they state. That would be satisfied simply by sending an interceptor or two to Amarr every other day for a week and then claim victory. Our entire organisation is currently located in your Headquarters Station, Emperor Academy, Amarr System. We are conducting business, flying combat operations, socialising and enjoying the local sights from the Station and System you consider your home. I imagine since you haven't actually been anywhere near our preparations this comes as a surprise to you. But hopefully now you've been properly informed we'll see you in Amarr trying to dislodge our "couple of interceptors" on a nightly basis. Either that or you remain a long long long way away hiding your face and remaining safe. Rest assured whichever option you choose will be clearly represented in the "war diaries" we present to the public concerning this campaign. Star Fraction is recruiting
h37105	Posted - 2007.03.31 16:18:00 - [37] Another good chance for Amarrian lasers to pierce through hulls of those blindfolded by ideas of "democracy", "freedom" and "true hope". Pathetic and hollow goals of loons scattered all around surrounding systems. If boors need to be taught a lesson of obedience and respect, then it shall be done. The true and the only path is spiritual unity, inner belief and patience. It's one's own choice to if either to achieve that by tome, or by sword. In the latter case, we will be honoured to oblige.. "..Eternal Chaunts Benevolence The Selenites Smile and gaze At those we are At those we were Spinning round In their haze.." VIVA LA MUERTE! AMARR VICTOR!
Majaraw Awalabas PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.31 16:26:00 - [38] I am loathe to use a single capacitor unit of my ships on such two-bit **** peddlers. Or another word.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:23:00 - [39] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel I find Star Fractions timing quite interesting. It can't be a coincidence that whenever Star Fraction fights there is at least one pirate-organisation flying besides them. Gives some vague support to the theory that they're not so much terrorists and anarchists in heart, but instead that this "ideology" is only there to obfuscate what is in truth an enforcer-organisation for a wide-spanning network of pirate corperations. ...either that or they're just afraid of fighting the para-militaries of Amarr on their own. The Star Fraction has declared war on PIE Inc. and I am not aware of any pirate organisation that has likewise declared war on the 'Praetorians'. Certainly we have no connection with and are not 'flying beside' any such organisation that may have declared war on Amarrian paramilitary groups. On the other hand, we have been given notice of the intention of the Aegis Militia to declare war on us in support of PIE Inc. We have no problem with this, I may say, but accusations that we are 'afraid' to fight on our own fall very wide of the mark and have absolutely no basis in fact. I don't expect an apology but I do expect you to recognise the facts, particularly as we have a history of openly declaring who it is we are working with at any given time. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:24:00 - [40] I love reading SF posts. Good luck to both sides.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:09:00 - [41] Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas I am loathe to use a single capacitor unit of my ships on such two-bit **** peddlers. Or another word. Nobody asked you to make this post. And if you don't want to fight you can simply stay a long long way away from Amarr. If you hide well enough I suspect we won't bother to come and chase you. Star Fraction is recruiting
Jonny Damordred Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:14:00 - [42] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Nobody asked you to make this post. And if you don't want to fight you can simply stay a long long way away from Amarr. If you hide well enough I suspect we won't bother to come and chase you. Doubtful. I make it a hobby to hunt Galnet rabble. Cheers, Jonny D. -----
IzzyChan Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:42:00 - [43] F'in finally. --------------------
Sardoniac Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:43:00 - [44] Originally by: Karn Mithralia Good hunting free captains. Another blow is struck against the forces of tyranny and oppression. o> I must have missed the blows before then... May He protect you and bless you loyal members of the Holy Amarrian Empire.
Kebabski Minmatar Yiotul Fighters Malachai Fa'an	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:53:00 - [45] Good hunting SF and kick some ass Kebabski
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:02:00 - [46] Edited by: Nomakai Delateriel on 31/03/2007 19:59:37 Originally by: The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction has declared war on PIE Inc. and I am not aware of any pirate organisation that has likewise declared war on the 'Praetorians'. Certainly we have no connection with and are not 'flying beside' any such organisation that may have declared war on Amarrian paramilitary groups. On the other hand, we have been given notice of the intention of the Aegis Militia to declare war on us in support of PIE Inc. We have no problem with this, I may say, but accusations that we are 'afraid' to fight on our own fall very wide of the mark and have absolutely no basis in fact. I don't expect an apology but I do expect you to recognise the facts, particularly as we have a history of openly declaring who it is we are working with at any given time. The Cosmopolite If there is one truth in the galaxy it's that the Amarr Paramilitaries stick together. Fight one and you'll eventually have to fight all of them, no matter if it's Vigilia Valeria, Aegis Militia, CVA or PIE. I'm sure you're not daft, and as such you must know this (just like everyone else in the galaxy). As for pirates. Mortis Angelus declared on CVA just a few days ago, and true to tradition PIE declared upon Mortis Angelus. A few days after and you declare upon PIE. Many people have questioned the wisdom of Mortis Angelus decision to declare upon CVA. From an isolated perspective it is madness, but with your declaration their decision became just a little bit less mad. Especially if they've been promised a few of those billions of ISK that you're supposedly earning every day. Though there is the possibility that you're: 1. Oppertunistic, and found this a good moment to strike. 2. Just lucky and this is all a coincidence. But I don't believe in coincidences. Of course, this might just all be speculation, but one must always strive to find the greatest coherency of all the pertinent facts in order to discern the truth. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:11:00 - [47] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel If there is one truth in the galaxy it's that the Amarr Paramilitaries stick together. Fight one and you'll eventually have to fight all of them, no matter if it's Vigilia Valeria, Aegis Militia, CVA or PIE. I'm sure you're not daft, and as such you must know this (just like everyone else in the galaxy). Indeed. If Vigilia Valeria and/or CVA want to assist their comrades, they know how. On the Mortis Angelus issue, they are completely unaffiliated, but I like their choice of targets.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:29:00 - [48] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel If there is one truth in the galaxy it's that the Amarr Paramilitaries stick together. Fight one and you'll eventually have to fight all of them, no matter if it's Vigilia Valeria, Aegis Militia, CVA or PIE. Let them all follow the Judas Goat to the slaughter. Star Fraction is recruiting
Kabajashi San Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:43:00 - [49] Bringing the war to the opponent's Homeland - I like this strategy. Choosing the battle field is half way to victory. May your blades be sharp, Star Fraction, and may your ships be fast. I'm waiting for the day when all Amarr realize they cannot live in peace until they accept freedom as a fundamental value. Until that day, keep up the fight.
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:20:00 - [50] Pay up, I win the bet.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.01 00:22:00 - [51] Quote: But hopefully now you've been properly informed we'll see you in Amarr trying to dislodge our "couple of interceptors" on a nightly basis. Either that or you remain a long long long way away hiding your face and remaining safe. Rest assured whichever option you choose will be clearly represented in the "war diaries" we present to the public concerning this campaign. Actually most of PIE have been down in Providence recently with our allies conquering a terrorist outpost, destroying POS towers and fighting pirates while helping secure the area so people can travel freely without risk of terror and piracy. Perhaps you're read about it. Hardly "hiding our face" but given your past war diaries this "spin" is expected and typical of your aversion to the truth. Sorry to disappoint you but selling smut out the back of a rusty bestower hardly qualifies you as a "relevant enemy of the empire".... wardec or not. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Tomahawk Bliss INTAKI UNION The OSS	Posted - 2007.04.01 00:25:00 - [52] Originally by: Callistus War, as they say, is good for business. If either side wishes to get that extra edge in combat you know who to talk to. t20? Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Alyne Lylshander Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.01 01:06:00 - [53] Edited by: Alyne Lylshander on 01/04/2007 01:04:14 Originally by: Yohn Kalvin PIE inc has proven through words and deeds their commitment to God and Empire. What has the SF proven? That they can write long and boring treaties on meaningless rantings? Good sir, I make a point of not posting on GalNet, but your message has deeply touched my heart. Few things have had so true a ring to my ears as these words of God-fearing and absolute (do those two not go hand-in-hand, always?!) wisdom. Indeed, upon review of Star Fraction's posting history, I have indeed ascertained that it is nothing but a rag-tag bunch of veritable GalNet addicts. I am quite sure every single one of them has at least two implant hardpoints devoted solely to tracking the developments in this service at every twist and turn of the wire! And a third with a complete lexicon, comprised of every known word, so that they may dutifully smite (I apologize if I misuse this term by associating it with these Goat-worshipping heretics) each and every GalNet enemy, and then hide behind their witty replies, in utter fear of complete, unbending destruction at the Hands of Our Lord and Savior, THE God (for, indeed, he is THE God, as there is only ONE). Star Fraction, is, thusly, hipocritical at its very core. I believe that it operates from a kernel of principles once written by The Cosmopolite, or Atandros, or another such false prophet -- these 'boring treaties' and 'meaningless rantings' are age-old texts, that no one but their Revolutionary Council has access to. The other members of Star Fraction follow these dictates as if they were some sort of holy book, never questioning their words, unbending in their blind devotion to their false Goddess Jade, the Constantine. Indeed, I beg that you believe my words, kind sir. In this day and age, we still have this sort of utterly absurd behavior - people that follow blindly words set in stone eons ago. Long, boring treatises, and meaningless rantings, I say. May God scorch them from this earth with his fiery eyes of laser (for, if God's warriors use the laser as their weapon of favor, then it must have been handed down to them at some point in history, by one of the Prophets, so that they could emulate - if poorly - the holy fire that our Lord dispenses upon those who choose to cross Him!) Fit your lasers, power them up, and join the fight, sir. Maybe you'll catch a glimpse of God in one of your trips between pod and clone-vat! I sure hope to provide you with such a sight, in the name of the one true God. And now, I must return to that which is my actual profession - compulsive consumption of boosters. Indeed, I'm a capsuleer-dilletante, really. Have a blessed day, in God's Holy Name.
Karkoulauskas Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.04.01 04:34:00 - [54] Good luck PIE Inc. Send some prisoners to us if you can, when this war is over and you are Victorious! We can use some extra slaves. Denique Ammataria
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.01 12:23:00 - [55] Originally by: Karkoulauskas Good luck PIE Inc. Send some prisoners to us if you can, when this war is over and you are Victorious! We can use some extra slaves. Denique Ammataria I suspect they will be begging you for aid before the month is out collaborator. See you in space. Star Fraction is recruiting
Koshmarnaya Akula Khanid Provincial Vanguard Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.04.01 14:31:00 - [56] It might be more interesting to read if one side decided to compliment the other instead of berate or posture. Granted I could just be trying to get Tatsue's attention again.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.04.01 15:04:00 - [57] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine I suspect they will be begging you for aid before the month is out collaborator. See you in space. Ah. Painting oneself to be a Minmatar sympathiser, when (in the unlikely case that you win) they are your next target (Caldari, Gallente, Amarr... Minmatar must follow. Especially given your previous statements on the issue). Cute. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
The Yzzerman Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.04.01 18:11:00 - [58] GL star fraction
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.01 18:39:00 - [59] Interresting ploy SF. Spread heresy through the core of the Home Worlds to provoke CVA by word, then declare on their most valued corp to provoke by deed. I admire your skill in the theory of war, but I have a funny feeling PIE will throw a spanner in your works. Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve.
Cyshade Caldari Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2007.04.01 19:14:00 - [60] Edited by: Cyshade on 01/04/2007 19:10:55 Goodluck to the Star Fraction. Anarchy within the Empire is always good
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.04.01 19:53:00 - [61] Our prayers are with the Amarr for swift victory. "Lord, bathe me in Thy Glory Strengthen my hand Let not my compassion prevent me From doing Thy Will Make my life a burning flame to Your enemies For their transgressions that insult Thee Make my death a service to Thy eternal Kingdom For my faith that consumes me" Delictum 23216 Official forums
Kell Atorr Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.04.01 20:47:00 - [62] Originally by: Nautark Mniachei Originally by: The Cosmopolite ~ all subjects of an empire are slaves; those who do not know they are slaves are also fools ~ All of Creation is The One God's Domain. The difference between us is that we know we are His servants. An elegant summary of the ideologies of Star Fraction and PIE, respectively. A pity that so few understand the value, or even the possibility, of collective commitment to individual freedom. -- Vain flame burns fast and its lick is light. Modest flame lasts long and burns to the bone.
DeadRow Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.04.01 22:59:00 - [63] Though I dislike the Empire as much as the next gal. I hope you are successful in repelling these 'free captains'. /DeadRow snip - signature removed, please email us with a link if you wish to know why. -Ivan K
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.04.02 01:43:00 - [64] Although I don't support their aims, I bear some respect for the members of Star Fraction, sufficient that I wish them good luck in wiping out the terrorist pondscum within the Empire. Unfortunately, I'd say that if you're hoping to remove every worthless scumbag within the Empire (whether ir be my definition of "worthless scumbag" or yours) you're going to have to go full-blown genocidal. Safe flying, and may your chosen weapon strike true. And to the Amarrian slavers: die, choking on your own blood. A thousand curses upon every one of you, and may your tainted families suffer a million agonies before death takes them.
Auele Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.04.02 06:03:00 - [65] Enough of this! Where is my SF War Diary!!!! ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- "In the end, people think of the beginning"
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.02 08:28:00 - [66] I am missing the definition of clear goals from this announcement - is this already in preparation of spinning an inevitable defeat as a victory? Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.02 09:30:00 - [67] It's a shame the "noble" Amarr cannot find the grace to afford their enemies the courtesies commonly found between enemies elsewhere in New Eden. Please, enough with the ceaseless beating of chests, dime novel conspiracy theories and the stale, dusty rhetoric. If you cannot find the decency to greet the arrival of war with a foe you claim to despise as much as us with some enthusiasm and nobility of mind, then at least keep your peace. Choose the safety of your outmoded stations or bring the golden barges out to cleanse your empire with the holy light of your god - the choice is entirely yours.
Keerie Jeanmot Gallente Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.02 11:02:00 - [68] The flames of hell are not warm enough - just yet - .
Michaela Cathrine	Posted - 2007.04.02 11:39:00 - [69] Edited by: Michaela Cathrine on 02/04/2007 11:36:59 Best wishes to the esteemed warriors of Amarr.
A Pirate	Posted - 2007.04.02 11:40:00 - [70] Haha! You people [SF/PIE] are nuts! I really don't understand why them PIE guys bother to reply. All you sods [SF] do is write something completely irrelevant. You and your walls of text. Do something original for a chance. You ought to try fighting instead of being all biggie on the wordie. And you UK guy over there. Stuff it buddy. You can't say ** because you cant do **. You all ready lost that outpost. Maybe its time to get mining.. Slave? Bahahwah! See you in empire. PS. Selling A Pirate Ship(s) and A Pirate Corpse(s)! only 10m a piece.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.04.02 11:43:00 - [71] One of the best showdowns has begun . Good luck brothers Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.02 12:55:00 - [72] Originally by: A Pirate Haha! You people [SF/PIE] are nuts! I really don't understand why them PIE guys bother to reply. All you sods [SF] do is write something completely irrelevant. You and your walls of text. Do something original for a chance. You ought to try fighting instead of being all biggie on the wordie. And you UK guy over there. Stuff it buddy. You can't say ** because you cant do **. You all ready lost that outpost. Maybe its time to get mining.. Slave? Bahahwah! See you in empire. PS. Selling A Pirate Ship(s) and A Pirate Corpse(s)! only 10m a piece. ah yes, I see the error of my ways now. I shall change immediately! For then, I can sound like you... -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.02 12:57:00 - [73] Originally by: A Pirate You and your walls of text. Do something original for a chance. You ought to try fighting instead of being all biggie on the wordie. Bring a battleship to AMI, let me know when by evemail and we'll duel. Lets see who is about words on intergal and who is about fighting. Okay? Star Fraction is recruiting
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Daikoku Fleet Shipyards	Posted - 2007.04.02 13:01:00 - [74] Originally by: A Pirate Haha! You people [SF/PIE] are nuts! I really don't understand why them PIE guys bother to reply. All you sods [SF] do is write something completely irrelevant. You and your walls of text. Do something original for a chance. You ought to try fighting instead of being all biggie on the wordie. And you UK guy over there. Stuff it buddy. You can't say ** because you cant do **. You all ready lost that outpost. Maybe its time to get mining.. Slave? Bahahwah! See you in empire. PS. Selling A Pirate Ship(s) and A Pirate Corpse(s)! only 10m a piece. Having flown with Star Fraction in the past I feel honour bound to inform you that you are a fool, or the puppet of a fool. Though SF are fewer in number, PIE/CVA and anyone else joining the fray will have to fight blood, bone and laser cannon for each breath they draw until this conflict is over. ~Ryoji Tanakama
Malthros Zenobia The Cold Wind Foundation	Posted - 2007.04.02 15:06:00 - [75] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Karkoulauskas Good luck PIE Inc. Send some prisoners to us if you can, when this war is over and you are Victorious! We can use some extra slaves. Denique Ammataria I suspect they will be begging you for aid before the month is out collaborator. See you in space. Much like you will be begging your friends, and hiring mercs, if CVA decide you're worth their time? Spare me your witless response, you and I both know it to be true. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.02 15:10:00 - [76] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Much like you will be begging your friends, and hiring mercs, if CVA decide you're worth their time? Spare me your witless response, you and I both know it to be true. Don't judge others by your own standards Malthros Zenobia. Just because you personally lacked the energy and passion to fight for your own alliance when the time was critical doesn't mean others will be similarly lapse. Kimotoro may be dead, but for you at least the scars remain. Star Fraction is recruiting
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.04.02 15:57:00 - [77] Originally by: Heero Yuy It's a shame the "noble" Amarr cannot find the grace to afford their enemies the courtesies commonly found between enemies elsewhere in New Eden. Please, enough with the ceaseless beating of chests, dime novel conspiracy theories and the stale, dusty rhetoric. If you cannot find the decency to greet the arrival of war with a foe you claim to despise as much as us with some enthusiasm and nobility of mind, then at least keep your peace. Courtesy is based on finding at least some shred of common ground, between Amarr and the Star Fraction there can be none. At best (and note "at best") there can be the type of respect found between warrior and a ferocious wild beast (Who's who is up to the reader). As such PIE is showing you quite alot of tolerance, as much as can be shown to barbarians. They're giving you a chance to retreat. Giving SF as much credit as possible this is a war concerning mutually exclusive bodies of coherent knowledge, both with their own internal logics. There can be nothing that the otherside can truly understand, for to understand the opponent beyond the dance of war(and this applies to both sides) would be to taint oneself. Like the Rinzai mystics you can only understand the Amarr truths by becoming Amarr, to understand Amarr faith and to accept the Amarr faith is the same thing. I guess the same thing can be applied to SF. Note that I'm not speaking for any Amarr but myself here. I'm no representative of the Amarr Loyalist fleets and my views on the Amarr faith are considered by some to be...unorthodox. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
The Yzzerman Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.04.02 16:58:00 - [78] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Edited by: Nomakai Delateriel on 31/03/2007 19:59:37 Originally by: The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction has declared war on PIE Inc. and I am not aware of any pirate organisation that has likewise declared war on the 'Praetorians'. Certainly we have no connection with and are not 'flying beside' any such organisation that may have declared war on Amarrian paramilitary groups. On the other hand, we have been given notice of the intention of the Aegis Militia to declare war on us in support of PIE Inc. We have no problem with this, I may say, but accusations that we are 'afraid' to fight on our own fall very wide of the mark and have absolutely no basis in fact. I don't expect an apology but I do expect you to recognise the facts, particularly as we have a history of openly declaring who it is we are working with at any given time. The Cosmopolite If there is one truth in the galaxy it's that the Amarr Paramilitaries stick together. Fight one and you'll eventually have to fight all of them, no matter if it's Vigilia Valeria, Aegis Militia, CVA or PIE. I'm sure you're not daft, and as such you must know this (just like everyone else in the galaxy). As for pirates. Mortis Angelus declared on CVA just a few days ago, and true to tradition PIE declared upon Mortis Angelus. A few days after and you declare upon PIE. Many people have questioned the wisdom of Mortis Angelus decision to declare upon CVA. From an isolated perspective it is madness, but with your declaration their decision became just a little bit less mad. Especially if they've been promised a few of those billions of ISK that you're supposedly earning every day. Though there is the possibility that you're: 1. Oppertunistic, and found this a good moment to strike. 2. Just lucky and this is all a coincidence. But I don't believe in coincidences. Of course, this might just all be speculation, but one must always strive to find the greatest coherency of all the pertinent facts in order to discern the truth. Just speculations
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.02 16:58:00 - [79] Short public service announcement: 109.04.02 00:37 The Aegis Militia has declared war on The Star Fraction. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. 109.04.02 16:41 Vigilia Valeria has declared war on The Star Fraction. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Jalsorpa Puppets on Steroids	Posted - 2007.04.02 17:20:00 - [80] You people make my ears bleed. the reason there's pirates here giving u all grief is all the god-forsaken (forgive the pun ^^) macro haulers that infest your space. that and theres alot of other great targets here in this sad excuse for a lowsec route to 0.0. Tbh what ever the star fraction are doing is their concern, although i can see why they are doing it. BTW ERIS goddess of confusion is the ONE TRUE GOD! Discordia FTW!! that is all, pie-rat out
Jalsorpa Puppets on Steroids	Posted - 2007.04.02 17:34:00 - [81] ok i've now just been told by my CEO that the REAL reason we are here is to reclaim THE HOLY TROUT OF TRUTH the CVA and PIE savagely stole from us doing the last confrontation with the Knee-Nibblers from Paxis 12. in a hainous attack on our faith we have given up our freedom to destroy the HEATHENS who stole from us. WE ARE COMING!!!!
Falcione Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:44:00 - [82] GL and HF Star Fraction! I may not personally agree with your ideals, but when it comes to war, guns are the only things that matter in the end right? Lock and load! My Bio in Progress Prologue / CH.1
Tomahawk Bliss INTAKI UNION The OSS	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:23:00 - [83] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko Short public service announcement: 109.04.02 00:37 The Aegis Militia has declared war on The Star Fraction. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. 109.04.02 16:41 Vigilia Valeria has declared war on The Star Fraction. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. how very interesting, we are watching this conflict with intrest. Tomahawk Bliss Warlord Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Yoshito Sanders Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:52:00 - [84] Quote: 2007.04.02 15:22 The Sani Sabik has declared war on The Aegis Militia. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. The Aegis Militia is honored that we are deemed to be such a threat that Revan Neferis, the well-publicized lover of Jade Constantine, was called on to declare war and help ease the pressue on Star Fraction. We hope we live up to the lofty expectations you have placed on us, though the gesture will ultimately prove futile.
3ll3 Gallente Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:03:00 - [85] Good on ya Star Faction Pop a few Pie's for me please and if ya see Ol'Kos sing him me little song: ♫♪Who ate all the Pies♪ Who ate al the Pies?♪ We did♪ We did♪ We ate all the Pies♫♪ Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis
Mirasta Caldari Aggressive Tendencies	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:18:00 - [86] Trout FOR THE TROUT GOD! Good luck SF, all though you might not need it... these god botheres are but an annoyence. snip. Signature removed as it is excessively distracting. Mail us at [email protected] if you have any further queries - Valorem I loled
Ahanu Gaho	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:22:00 - [87] snip unconstructive & OOC - Karass Sayfo
Tomahawk Bliss INTAKI UNION The OSS	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:43:00 - [88] Originally by: Yo**o Sanders Quote: 2007.04.02 15:22 The Sani Sabik has declared war on The Aegis Militia. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. The Aegis Militia is honored that we are deemed to be such a threat that Revan Neferis, the well-publicized lover of Jade Constantine, was called on to declare war and help ease the pressue on Star Fraction. We hope we live up to the lofty expectations you have placed on us, though the gesture will ultimately prove futile. Now that changes things. What an interesting and unpleasant turn of events. Tomahawk Bliss Warlord Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:57:00 - [89] "Ease the pressure"... Heh.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 21:54:00 - [90] Good fortune to my friends and allies. Amarr Victor
Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization	Posted - 2007.04.02 22:59:00 - [91] I know little of the reason for this war, though my hopes for victory are extended to Star Fraction. I have spoken to them quite a bit, and despite our slightly negative corp standings towards each other, I found their members to be quite sensable despite our differances in believe. PIE, and the Amarr empire as a whole in all honesty, I hold in very little regard and would feel no remorse to see them split and be forced to disperse. Good luck to Star Fraction and their pilots, it's about time someone gave PIE a fight that was equal to their infamy alone.
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.02 23:00:00 - [92] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko "Ease the pressure"... Heh. Is that a euphemism?
Varus Riaz Gallente The Durandal Organization	Posted - 2007.04.03 00:12:00 - [93] In true Gallente fashion, to contradict my corpmate, my best wishes go out to the Amarrian forces in this struggle.
Zagamesh Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2007.04.03 01:41:00 - [94] May the only victory won in this conflict be a Pyrrhic one.
Silas Vitalia Khanid Provincial Vanguard Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.04.03 03:36:00 - [95] -Khanid Kingdom -Vezila IV - Royal Khanid Navy Assembly Plant *Silas looked out over the station atrium from the panoramic window in her quarters. High above the masses below, she watched as the they went to and fro about their daily business. Although they were all individuals with their own thoughts and desires, it really was hard to think of them as anything more than tiny ants from this height. She was finishing her second glass of wine when the chirp in her earpiece brought her out of her private musings. She could tell by the tone that her A.I. had selected a thread from the Capsuleer Forums that she would be interested in. She brought up the thread on her wall display and smiled. The thought of those anarchists receiving a thorough (and righteous) beating from PIE filled her with no small amount of joy. But with that joy came a bit of sadness, as well. Her new life in the Kingdom over the last year had been wonderful....yet news like this seemed to always open old wounds. She found herself longing to be among the true Amarr once again, doing the just work only they are qualified for. "Computer, take dictation, please...." To the members of PIE, Many blessings for my brothers and sisters back home towards the swift and decisive end of this campaign. Godspeed in eliminating this scum and their propaganda from the Empire. I would wish you luck, but that of course has nothing to do with it. May you all do us proud. Well wishes from here in the Kingdom, -Silas
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.03 04:18:00 - [96] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Originally by: Yo**o Sanders Quote: 2007.04.02 15:22 The Sani Sabik has declared war on The Aegis Militia. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. Now that changes things. What an interesting and unpleasant turn of events. Tomahawk Bliss Warlord Two things I'm known for: making things interesting and umpleasant when suits me. This is just a sparkle. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.03 09:28:00 - [97] Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.03 09:32:00 - [98] Originally by: Tharrn Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. You will rarely or never see me at space. I'm a politician not a deck front combat pilot. I have money, I have plenty of kameiras and elite groups to do the "dirty" jobs for me. I still don't understand why you're the only one who finds this "news" amusing. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 11:43:00 - [99] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Tharrn Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. You will rarely or never see me at space. I'm a politician not a deck front combat pilot. I have money, I have plenty of kameiras and elite groups to do the "dirty" jobs for me. I still don't understand why you're the only one who finds this "news" amusing. Or could it be that your history of pirating makes it very difficult for you to fly around in a ship in Empire space? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.04.03 11:51:00 - [100] Originally by: Tharrn Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. You do know that hiring mercs with isk is still fighting a war right? There are several ways to wage war, using isk is one of them.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.03 12:35:00 - [101] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Tharrn Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. You will rarely or never see me at space. I'm a politician not a deck front combat pilot. I have money, I have plenty of kameiras and elite groups to do the "dirty" jobs for me. I still don't understand why you're the only one who finds this "news" amusing. Or could it be that your history of pirating makes it very difficult for you to fly around in a ship in Empire space? It's no history, I still amuse myself killing the ones whose destiny brings in front of the Blood Ascriber. And about Empire, I've been there recentely,, certainly in a capsule buying holereels from Dante productions at Amarr monument. We had 5 of PIE in system and I did my purchase and back to Amarr Theology council station, undisturbed. So, no, Concord will never prevent me from shopping or amusing myself when I wish, where I wish and under whatever circunstances. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.03 12:37:00 - [102] Originally by: Tharrn I am missing the definition of clear goals from this announcement - is this already in preparation of spinning an inevitable defeat as a victory? And the goals of the Vigilia Valeria wardec on the Star Fraction are? (don't throw stones in glass space stations) Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 12:42:00 - [103] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Tharrn Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. You will rarely or never see me at space. I'm a politician not a deck front combat pilot. I have money, I have plenty of kameiras and elite groups to do the "dirty" jobs for me. I still don't understand why you're the only one who finds this "news" amusing. Or could it be that your history of pirating makes it very difficult for you to fly around in a ship in Empire space? It's no history, I still amuse myself killing the ones whose destiny brings in front of the Blood Ascriber. And about Empire, I've been there recentely,, certainly in a capsule buying holereels from Dante productions at Amarr monument. We had 5 of PIE in system and I did my purchase and back to Amarr Theology council station, undisturbed. So, no, Concord will never prevent me from shopping or amusing myself when I wish, where I wish and under whatever circunstances. I hope they delivered your purchase of Do Continue, Medibot for you, you'd have had trouble moving it around in your pod. And of course PIE didn't shoot at you. We're not at war with you yet. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.03 14:46:00 - [104] Originally by: Tharrn Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. Tell me, is a vessel or asset destroyed by a mercenary any less destroyed than one taken out by a loyalist? And while I am sure you don't care much for my opinion on the matter, but I've observed the Sani Sabik deploy military assets in every piece of co-operation we've had. So whatever she is known for in your camp, from where I'm sitting I know Sani Sabik to deploy their assets where they believe they'll make a difference.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.03 15:55:00 - [105] Originally by: Rodj Blake And of course PIE didn't shoot at you. We're not at war with you yet. Child of Ignorance. You don't need a war to shoot at a classified criminal -8.5 standings, in a pod at Empire space. All you need is "guts" to do it. Oh my.. your ignorance is striking. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.03 15:57:00 - [106] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko Originally by: Tharrn Brace for mercenaries - Revan is known to never fight her own wars after all. Pretending to be important is her only expertise. Tell me, is a vessel or asset destroyed by a mercenary any less destroyed than one taken out by a loyalist? And while I am sure you don't care much for my opinion on the matter, but I've observed the Sani Sabik deploy military assets in every piece of co-operation we've had. So whatever she is known for in your camp, from where I'm sitting I know Sani Sabik to deploy their assets where they believe they'll make a difference. Very well said Tatsue. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.03 15:59:00 - [107] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Tharrn I am missing the definition of clear goals from this announcement - is this already in preparation of spinning an inevitable defeat as a victory? And the goals of the Vigilia Valeria wardec on the Star Fraction are? (don't throw stones in glass space stations) I am sure an announcement will be made by the executor with all due Amarrian haste. Until then my question stands: what are your proclaimed goals in this war? Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 16:06:00 - [108] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake And of course PIE didn't shoot at you. We're not at war with you yet. Child of Ignorance. You don't need a war to shoot at a classified criminal -8.5 standings, in a pod at Empire space. All you need is "guts" to do it. Oh my.. your ignorance is striking. As is your ignorance of our rules of engagement. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Falcione Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.04.03 19:08:00 - [109] So Rodj, your RoE won't let you shoot at known pirates unless you have a current war active? Interesting... My Bio in Progress Prologue / CH.1
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 19:30:00 - [110] Originally by: Falcione So Rodj, your RoE won't let you shoot at known pirates unless you have a current war active? Interesting... There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Lucius Lefebvre Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.03 19:46:00 - [111] Edited by: Lucius Lefebvre on 03/04/2007 19:43:22 Quote: There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. Is that to say that members of PIE don't discuss their RoE? Certainly, at the present time, it's somewhat difficult to ascribe any sort of RoE to PIE. More Rules of Non-Engagement.
Malvan Minmatar Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2007.04.03 19:54:00 - [112] Originally by: Rodj Blake As is your ignorance of our rules of engagement. Originally by: Rodj Blake There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. What's really striking right now is your apparent inability to string together a coherent line of thought. Has this all bit a bit much for you? Maybe you should go for a lie down, I'm sure the empire can get along without for a while while you recover your wits. Malvan. 'A flag that has no nation makes an enemy of the world' - The Golden Apple.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 20:18:00 - [113] Originally by: Malvan Originally by: Rodj Blake As is your ignorance of our rules of engagement. Originally by: Rodj Blake There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. What's really striking right now is your apparent inability to string together a coherent line of thought. Has this all bit a bit much for you? Maybe you should go for a lie down, I'm sure the empire can get along without for a while while you recover your wits. I fail to see anything incoherent here. There's something that we don't discuss, and people who we don't discuss it woth are ignorant of the details. Makes perfect sense. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.03 21:15:00 - [114] Could it be, perhaps, that you don't discuss it with anyone at all and that this is the explanation behind the lack of PIE pilots in the skies of Amarr? Is it, in fact, that PIE don't know their own ROE and so don't dare venture out for fear of a spanking (or worse/better) by Rodj? Whatever the reason, it surely can't be because they fear such an irrelevant and utterly inconsequential entity as the Star Fraction.....
Keerie Jeanmot Gallente Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.03 21:18:00 - [115] Originally by: Heero Yuy Could it be, perhaps, that you don't discuss it with anyone at all and that this is the explanation behind the lack of PIE pilots in the skies of Amarr? Is it, in fact, that PIE don't know their own ROE and so don't dare venture out for fear of a spanking (or worse/better) by Rodj? Whatever the reason, it surely can't be because they fear such an irrelevant and utterly inconsequential entity as the Star Fraction..... I'm getting dizzy of jumping back and forth from Amarr to Kor-Azor after the few war targets that keeps hiding. The Aegis Milita I think is in the same pack as all these PIE too.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.03 22:10:00 - [116] Play nice guys. We declared this war, so the pressure is on us to fight, not them. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 22:19:00 - [117] Originally by: Heero Yuy Whatever the reason, it surely can't be because they fear such an irrelevant and utterly inconsequential entity as the Star Fraction..... I can only speak for myself here. I, for one, am currently busy laughing at the fact that an alliance, which doesn't believe in governments or military powers, thinks that paying a weekly fee to a government sanctioned military power entitles them to convenience, attention or acknowledgement rather than ridicule.
Falcione Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.04.03 22:50:00 - [118] Originally by: Rodj Blake There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. Oh, come now Rodj... now you're just trying to be mysterious. And we all know that's Lady Revan's job My Bio in Progress Prologue / CH.1
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.03 23:10:00 - [119] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad I can only speak for myself here. I, for one, am currently busy laughing at the fact that an alliance, which doesn't believe in governments or military powers, thinks that paying a weekly fee to a government sanctioned military power entitles them to convenience, attention or acknowledgement rather than ridicule. Less laughing and more fighting from you mr hooded figure. Your comrades are not doing very well. Star Fraction is recruiting
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.04 00:18:00 - [120] Originally by: Falcione Originally by: Rodj Blake There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. Oh, come now Rodj... now you're just trying to be mysterious. And we all know that's Lady Revan's job Rawr! "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
3ll3 Gallente Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.04.04 00:34:00 - [121] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Falcione Originally by: Rodj Blake There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. Oh, come now Rodj... now you're just trying to be mysterious. And we all know that's Lady Revan's job Rawr! And no where as cute as her either Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.04.04 01:09:00 - [122] Originally by: Falcione Originally by: Rodj Blake There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. Oh, come now Rodj... now you're just trying to be mysterious. And we all know that's Lady Revan's job Revan is Mysterious? Don't make me laugh. She's the number one attentionseeker in the galaxy. I'm an Amarr loyalist, yet I know less of the inner workings of PIE than I know of the powerstructure of the Bloodraiders. Why? Because they (and Revan in particular) flaunt themselves. Rodj Blake for example can be (on occasion) pressed for information by pointed questions, Revan however craves to reveal things about herself and her organisation even when nobody wants to know. Seriously, I've seen people who are more mysterious than Revan on Gallente realityshows like "Truth or Dare Luminare". ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Kovid Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 01:45:00 - [123] Originally by: Falcione Originally by: Rodj Blake There are elements of our RoE which we don't discuss You shouldn't assume anything about them. Oh, come now Rodj... now you're just trying to be mysterious. And we all know that's Lady Revan's job I almost crashed while docking because of that. Oh well, it would have been an Amarr station. ---------------------------------- An informal Star Fraction FAQ \| ----------------------------------
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 06:58:00 - [124] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger We declared this war, so the pressure is on us to fight, not them. Damn. I was just beginning to disrespect all pilots of the Star Fraction for "not having a clue" and then you go speak some sense Sable. That's not nice. To explain to the rest of you guys and girls out there. Since joining up with PIE about a year ago, I simply don't remember a time when we did not have at least 3 active wars going. One of these has always been against the Ushra Khan alliance. One of the consequences of being continously in the front line is that we must prioritize our targets according to importance. Star Fraction simply doesn't rank that high on the list. If you guys wish for this to change, I'd advice you spend some time and effort to actually "compete" with our other enemies for position, rather than simply spend your time here complaining about it. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 07:16:00 - [125] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Sable Schroedinger We declared this war, so the pressure is on us to fight, not them. Damn. I was just beginning to disrespect all pilots of the Star Fraction for "not having a clue" and then you go speak some sense Sable. That's not nice. To explain to the rest of you guys and girls out there. Since joining up with PIE about a year ago, I simply don't remember a time when we did not have at least 3 active wars going. One of these has always been against the Ushra Khan alliance. One of the consequences of being continously in the front line is that we must prioritize our targets according to importance. Star Fraction simply doesn't rank that high on the list. If you guys wish for this to change, I'd advice you spend some time and effort to actually "compete" with our other enemies for position, rather than simply spend your time here complaining about it. tsk tsk Mr A. thats just a wordy way of saying "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough". This will be settled in space. See you there. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Atandros Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 08:25:00 - [126] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Sable Schroedinger We declared this war, so the pressure is on us to fight, not them. Damn. I was just beginning to disrespect all pilots of the Star Fraction for "not having a clue" and then you go speak some sense Sable. That's not nice. To explain to the rest of you guys and girls out there. Since joining up with PIE about a year ago, I simply don't remember a time when we did not have at least 3 active wars going. One of these has always been against the Ushra Khan alliance. One of the consequences of being continously in the front line is that we must prioritize our targets according to importance. Star Fraction simply doesn't rank that high on the list. If you guys wish for this to change, I'd advice you spend some time and effort to actually "compete" with our other enemies for position, rather than simply spend your time here complaining about it. Are the stations in Domain crawling with Minmatar insurgents then? Because that's where you can be found most of the time when we aren't fighting you or hunting you down, as we and you know quite well. Perhaps this is also the excuse for the dire performance you've displayed and all the losses you've taken? Do you find coordinating fleets and organizing your forces just too much of a bother for an unimportant war like this? -------
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.04 11:05:00 - [127] Are you still pondering your goals or must we surmise that you have none? Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 11:12:00 - [128] why not use your superior Amarrian brain to work out why pro enlightened anarchists would fight statist, oppressive government loyalists and what their aims might be. Really, itÆs not hard. Either that or you can throw your toys out of your pen cos the anarchists wonÆt jump when you tell them to. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 11:33:00 - [129] My personal goal is merely to kill as many Amarrian pigdogs as I can. So far, I'm succeeding in that aim.
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.04 12:06:00 - [130] It is amusing once again to see two of the most "vocal" organisations in the cluster at locked horns, talking *****s to eachother on GalNet. I'm sure that the war statitics will invoke the same war of words once published, if you all manage to undock and actually shoot eachother rather than playing a game of who's the most competent wiseass in the CRC's territory. Good luck to the Star Fraction, it'll be nice to see a pack of dead slavers and Imperial Loyalists. The only good slaver is a dead one. >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<**
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 12:14:00 - [131] Don't worry Verone, the war in space is started for sure. We have 60% of the killrate of the entire CYI campaign in the first 3 days of this one. I even managed to blood my Oneiros last night for great amusement. Some of the beasts of the Amarrian movement (blake, archbishop. kador etc) have already obliged us by exploding and things are looking promising. Star Fraction is recruiting
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 12:15:00 - [132] Originally by: Tharrn Are you still pondering your goals or must we surmise that you have none? Well lets think it through Tharrn. What does the campaign name suggest to you? Star Fraction is recruiting
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.04 14:21:00 - [133] You tell me. I didn't ask for a quiz. I could make wild guesses ranging from the destruction of PIE to the elimination of all Amarr loyalists, but would prefer a clear definition of goals. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.04 14:41:00 - [134] Haha, all I read in this thread is tired PIE rhetoric and a cascade of common-sense truths from The Sani Sabik and Star Fraction. It's the end for you, Amarrian paramilitaries.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 14:44:00 - [135] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Haha, all I read in this thread is tired PIE rhetoric and a cascade of common-sense truths from The Sani Sabik and Star Fraction. It's the end for you, Amarrian paramilitaries. Back hiding in Luna Rossa again, whelp? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 14:44:00 - [136] Originally by: Tharrn You tell me. I didn't ask for a quiz. I could make wild guesses ranging from the destruction of PIE to the elimination of all Amarr loyalists, but would prefer a clear definition of goals. Enjoy -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 14:54:00 - [137] Jasmine, if you are going to compare Amarr to the Gallente, I think the public should hear the relative percentage of your death rate to the campaign against the Gallente as well as your kill rate. But then, statistics are nothing more than tools for PR, as they can be twisted to say whatever you want them to say. What matters in war is not statistics but the simple question of who manages to accomplish their goals. Of course, as your organisations true goals are utterly impossible to achieve... you are at a slight disadvantage in that department, aren't you? Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:13:00 - [138] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Jasmine, if you are going to compare Amarr to the Gallente, I think the public should hear the relative percentage of your death rate to the campaign against the Gallente as well as your kill rate. Its a harder fight certainly, but your allies are dying in droves. Just an hour ago we had the incredible sight of an entire AM squadron going down to us to a man just a few jumps away from a larger PIE group docked in Amarr and refusing to come to their aid. We found it disgusting cowardice to be honest with you. Quote: But then, statistics are nothing more than tools for PR, as they can be twisted to say whatever you want them to say. What matters in war is not statistics but the simple question of who manages to accomplish their goals. Of course, as your organisations true goals are utterly impossible to achieve... you are at a slight disadvantage in that department, aren't you? What if our "true goal" is to utterly humiliate you and reveal to the universe what a toothless paper tiger PIE truly is? From where I'm viewing the situation "that goal" would be proceeding pretty well right at the moment. Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:20:00 - [139] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/04/2007 15:21:42 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/04/2007 15:18:53 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/04/2007 15:18:29 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine What if our "true goal" is to utterly humiliate you and reveal to the universe what a toothless paper tiger PIE truly is? From where I'm viewing the situation "that goal" would be proceeding pretty well right at the moment. So the mighty Star Fraction, scourge of the empires, bane of governments, champions of post-humanism is reduced to attempting to score points to make people look less good than would otherwise be the case. And still failing. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:26:00 - [140] Originally by: Rodj Blake So the mighty Star Fraction, scourge of the empires, bane of governments, champions of post-humanism is reduced to scoring points to make people look less good than would otherwise be the case. Ah no Rodj. We are far above your level I'm afraid. Star Fraction is recruiting
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:28:00 - [141] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake So the mighty Star Fraction, scourge of the empires, bane of governments, champions of post-humanism is reduced to scoring points to make people look less good than would otherwise be the case. Ah no Rodj. We are far above your level I'm afraid. Only in your overinflated opinions of yourselves. ---- It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Atandros Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:28:00 - [142] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Jasmine, if you are going to compare Amarr to the Gallente, I think the public should hear the relative percentage of your death rate to the campaign against the Gallente as well as your kill rate. Okay Gaven, Our kill to death ratio for the Cyrene campaign was 3,09 : 1 and our ratio for the current campaign is 3,29 : 1. Yours, Atandros -------
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:32:00 - [143] Originally by: Redwolf Only in your overinflated opinions of yourselves. Don't like us humiliating your friends mr CVA? I wonder whatever you might do about it. A difficult problem for you for sure Star Fraction is recruiting
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:38:00 - [144] That wasnt the statistic Ms. Constantine used, now was it? Thank you for illustrating my point that statistics say what you want them to rather than anything of importance. Perhaps you should concentrate on winning your unwinnable war rather than attempting to write it off as already won. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:45:00 - [145] Originally by: Atandros Our kill to death ratio for the Cyrene campaign was 3,09 : 1 and our ratio for the current campaign is 3,29 : 1. Interseting figures indeed. I could of course produce statistics that shows that the figures in this war are closer to 1:1. But if your figures makes you happy then by all means stick to them. Come to think of it I could probably also produce statistics that shows the exchange rate as 329:1 in our favour. The fact remains that your success or failure in this war will be measured by what you actually achieve rather than by some exchange rate that can be argued from here to the end of time. Your purpose to this war (as far as I can tell - SF tends to be rather vague in this regard) was to destroy PIE in and around Amarr. Before this war, PIE and her allies has partly operated from bases in and around Amarr. During this war, PIE and her allies partly operate from bases in and around Amarr. After this war, PIE and her allies will continue to partly operate from bases in and around Amarr. You have already failed - you just haven't had the courage to admit it to yourselves yet. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:54:00 - [146] Burn! ----------------------------------------------
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:55:00 - [147] Come on guys, have some self respect. This is all starting to sound like "please stop shooting us". If thatÆs really what you're saying, and I'm not saying it is, contact a diplomat in private and ask for surrender terms. At least that way you may walk away with some dignity. If not, please reconsider the terms you post in, but these are ones of the defeated abd its making you look poor. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.04 16:04:00 - [148] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Come on guys, have some self respect. This is all starting to sound like "please stop shooting us". If thatÆs really what you're saying, and I'm not saying it is, contact a diplomat in private and ask for surrender terms. At least that way you may walk away with some dignity. If not, please reconsider the terms you post in, but these are ones of the defeated abd its making you look poor. I haven't heard the fat lady sing yet. In fact it's not even really started and you are already starting to claim victory? Sounds a bit desperate. We are prepared for a long-term campaign with many ups and downs. Let's see who holds the field when it's finally over. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 16:04:00 - [149] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Come on guys, have some self respect. This is all starting to sound like "please stop shooting us". If thatÆs really what you're saying, and I'm not saying it is, contact a diplomat in private and ask for surrender terms. At least that way you may walk away with some dignity. If not, please reconsider the terms you post in, but these are ones of the defeated abd its making you look poor. What you're hearing and what we're saying appear to be different. Another SF delusion. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 16:06:00 - [150] Are you in a competition with Revan for the spot of court jester, Mr Sable? This is what awaits your soul: "When the ears hear only The mouth shouting And the eyes see only The fingers broken The world has turned And God has gone Left us with fond memories Of sweet life without pain." Repent. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 16:07:00 - [151] Then enough words PIE. Come and fight! Star Fraction is recruiting
Alistair Cononach Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 16:53:00 - [152] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Come on guys, have some self respect. This is all starting to sound like "please stop shooting us". That is a line I doubt you will ever here from one of us. I say shoot me. I say KILL me. Kill me once, I shall rise again. Kill me again, and I will rise again. Kill me a thousand times, destroy me over and over. You cannot defeat me that way. You cannot take away my pride. You cannot take away my will. You cannot take away my faith. You cannot take away the only two things that truly matter. God. And Empire. So feel free to shoot me as often as you can, while you can. You accomplish little, you prove nothing. For no matter how many times we may die, we shall never be defeated. Never.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:05:00 - [153] Originally by: Alistair Cononach Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Come on guys, have some self respect. This is all starting to sound like "please stop shooting us". That is a line I doubt you will ever here from one of us. I say shoot me. I say KILL me. Kill me once, I shall rise again. Kill me again, and I will rise again. Kill me a thousand times, destroy me over and over. You cannot defeat me that way. You cannot take away my pride. You cannot take away my will. You cannot take away my faith. You cannot take away the only two things that truly matter. God. And Empire. So feel free to shoot me as often as you can, while you can. You accomplish little, you prove nothing. For no matter how many times we may die, we shall never be defeated. Never. Undock then. Star Fraction is recruiting
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:16:00 - [154] What makes you think that you dictate the terms of engagements? Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Kovid Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:45:00 - [155] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Come on guys, have some self respect. This is all starting to sound like "please stop shooting us". If thatÆs really what you're saying, and I'm not saying it is, contact a diplomat in private and ask for surrender terms. At least that way you may walk away with some dignity. If not, please reconsider the terms you post in, but these are ones of the defeated abd its making you look poor. I haven't heard the fat lady sing yet. In fact it's not even really started and you are already starting to claim victory? Sounds a bit desperate. We are prepared for a long-term campaign with many ups and downs. Let's see who holds the field when it's finally over. My guess is Sable was referring to PIE specifically. VV and AM have come to rescue PIE. Why they do the legwork for PIE I do not know. They try, PIE sits and eats in station among the explosions outside. Intresting RoE PIE has. I know I haven't counted out VV or AM. ---------------------------------- An informal Star Fraction FAQ \| ----------------------------------
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:46:00 - [156] Originally by: Tharrn What makes you think that you dictate the terms of engagements? I was responding to the stirring propaganda post above. Are you telling me it was all hot air now? Star Fraction is recruiting
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:56:00 - [157] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Undock then. Wow Star Fraction propaganda really has reached a new level of professionalism now I am sure PIE will continue to fight on their own terms and at times of their own choosing... Good luck my brothers! Please feel free to call on me if you ever need any assistance against the anarchist scum. ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:59:00 - [158] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/04/2007 17:55:15 Originally by: Kovid They try, PIE sits and eats in station among the explosions outside. Intresting RoE PIE has. I know I haven't counted out VV or AM. I must say, it was very clever of our pilots to destroy your executor's Sleipnir whilst they were eating in the station. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 18:14:00 - [159] Originally by: Hardin I am sure PIE will continue to fight on their own terms and at times of their own choosing... Of course, they are outgunned and outfought, its entirely reasonable for them to fight guerilla-style and hide in stations through the day waiting their few chances. But lets have a little less chest-beating about the military capabilities of the empire paramilitaries while they are doing it perhaps? Star Fraction is recruiting
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 18:15:00 - [160] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/04/2007 17:55:15 Originally by: Kovid They try, PIE sits and eats in station among the explosions outside. Intresting RoE PIE has. I know I haven't counted out VV or AM. I must say, it was very clever of our pilots to destroy your executor's Sleipnir whilst they were eating in the station. Indeed, it was a well executed guerilla combat action.
Leon 026 Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.04 19:02:00 - [161] Edited by: Leon 026 on 04/04/2007 18:58:52 Interesting. I thought it was Star Fraction that declared war on PIE after them having ignored the petty 2-bit prn peddling in Amarr? So why should PIE run off to engage Star Fraction again, when they obviously dont care enough? ------- Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings*
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 19:23:00 - [162] Edited by: Nekumi on 04/04/2007 19:19:52 Originally by: Leon 026 Edited by: Leon 026 on 04/04/2007 18:58:52 Interesting. I thought it was Star Fraction that declared war on PIE after them having ignored the petty 2-bit p*rn peddling in Amarr? So why should PIE run off to engage Star Fraction again, when they obviously dont care enough? Once again, you are most correct. Having the Star Fraction in the heart of their Empire killing them daily is of no concern to the mighty navies of PIE. The majority of their affairs are conducted in station anyway. In fact it has troubled them so little that their brethren in Aegis Militia and Vigilia Valeria have war declared in support. Nothing to see here, move along.
Leon 026 Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.04 19:48:00 - [163] If there's nothing to see, then why all the Galnet posting? On the contrary, this new empire drama is something of an entertainment. ------- Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.04 20:04:00 - [164] My my the cries for attention get louder and louder. Try not to whine so much when others do not behave as you desire, anarchists.
Vantras Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.04 20:51:00 - [165] Star Fraction always conveys to me the unique ability if not desire to wage war without having to even enter space. I have a distinct feeling that give the brave pilots of The Fraction a forum and a keyboard and they could wage a most vigorous war! Just dock the ships lads...you appear to do far better in this format. Vantras
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.04 21:09:00 - [166] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine But lets have a little less chest-beating about the military capabilities of the empire paramilitaries while they are doing it perhaps? Why not? This is, quite simply, not a war that Star Fraction can strategically win. Given the current parameters, it's a war they can fight and conclude completely on their own terms and claim victory. Brilliant public relations on Star Fraction's part, as ever, but hardly a stirring military accomplishment. I've heard rumors of an Amarr paramilitary pushing the boundaries of oppression and various outmoded memes into the Providence region. I think your campaign is misplaced, though you'll tell me I'm wrong.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 22:07:00 - [167] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 04/04/2007 22:04:24 I believe there is little merit in continueing to twist meaningless numbers. The simple reality is that those God despises will lose in the grand picture, as the servants of the deceiver always do. Confess your sins and submit to God's Judgment, and it might go easier on you. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 22:40:00 - [168] My My Gaven, where have you been? I was looking forward to seeing you in space to demonstrate 'Amarrian Power' alongside your comrades. It seems to me that you haven't even fired a shot... Tharrn, I did see you out and about earlier, though you also have yet to participate in battle - perhaps you can enlighten us as to what attraction keeps Gaven from joining us? I would guess by your own status you might be more familiar with it, yes? Ah well. Keep 'dictating your terms of engagement' by all means, and if you would not mind sharing your findings as per the dockside attractions of various Empire stations with us, I might be curious to read it. So, where was it again we were supposed to "Come and Die" again? I guess its not Amarr... _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 22:42:00 - [169] Originally by: Garreck I've heard rumors of an Amarr paramilitary pushing the boundaries of oppression and various outmoded memes into the Providence region. I think your campaign is misplaced, though you'll tell me I'm wrong. What better place than Amarr itself, Garreck? _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Grim86StonE Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.04 22:51:00 - [170] You pilots from Star Fraction... so much talking, so much debating....pointless. All you do is talk on Galnet and on local comm channels. Know that the Forces of Aegis Militia have come to assist their brothers from PIE and VV, not to rescue anyone. I am dying to see your weekly report where I am certain that it will reek with your boasting and propaganda. If you say that we came to "rescue" PIE, what have you got to say about the Bloodveil scum that declared open war on us ?
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.04 22:56:00 - [171] Originally by: Grim86StonE All you do is talk on Galnet and on local comm channels. Probably a wise choice to check combat records before you make foolish accusations, yes? Originally by: Grim86StonE If you say that we came to "rescue" PIE, what have you got to say about the Bloodveil scum that declared open war on us ? I am sure they have their own reasons. Though I am sure if you undocked more regularly you would know that Star Fraction forces have no need of rescue. Unless you would like to take a casual trip to Amarr and see how things really are? _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Grim86StonE Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.04 23:06:00 - [172] I already have. And I don't think you know when I undock and dock. Furthermore, I am certain that everyone knows Star Fraction is 80% galnet chatter and maybe 20% actual deeds.
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.04.04 23:56:00 - [173] The days of the "golden fleets" in amarr and minmatar space are since long gone, I do however think most amarrians still live in the past. Inside their own minds they still see their numbers and ships...lost in dreams...cause they do no longer exist in reality.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 00:40:00 - [174] Unfortunately for your ego, Ituralde, your organization is not enough of a threat to pull me from the planetside business that has been increasingly keeping me from my ships. When I get a break from said business I would be glad to burn you personally. But then, God and Family do not always let you do what you want to. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 00:40:00 - [175] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Interseting figures indeed. I could of course produce statistics that shows that the figures in this war are closer to 1:1. But if your figures makes you happy then by all means stick to them. Come to think of it I could probably also produce statistics that shows the exchange rate as 329:1 in our favour. Perhaps if you're incapable of doing simple division. By the way, the ratio is now 3.63, thanks.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 00:49:00 - [176] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri When I get a break from said business I would be glad to burn you personally. But then, God and Family do not always let you do what you want to. Should I understand that as a challenge to a duel, Gaven, or is this more of that "come and die" that has been thus largely unsubstantiated in this conflict? Just curious. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 00:53:00 - [177] Its a message that should I get a chance, I will send you to hell. Nothing more, nothing less. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 00:56:00 - [178] Fair enough, I look forward to when you try. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Kovid Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 03:44:00 - [179] Edited by: Kovid on 05/04/2007 03:40:26 Originally by: Camar The days of the "golden fleets" in amarr and minmatar space are since long gone, I do however think most amarrians still live in the past. Inside their own minds they still see their numbers and ships...lost in dreams...cause they do no longer exist in reality. Very true, now it's time to clean up the paramilitary sects. Have you seen the golden wrecks of the Amarrians equiping projectiles, blasters, and using non-Amarr drones? ---------------------------------- An informal Star Fraction FAQ \| ----------------------------------
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.04.05 04:13:00 - [180] Originally by: Kovid Edited by: Kovid on 05/04/2007 03:40:26 Originally by: Camar The days of the "golden fleets" in amarr and minmatar space are since long gone, I do however think most amarrians still live in the past. Inside their own minds they still see their numbers and ships...lost in dreams...cause they do no longer exist in reality. Very true, now it's time to clean up the paramilitary sects. Have you seen the golden wrecks of the Amarrians equiping projectiles, blasters, and using non-Amarr drones? What next, will you demand that PIE hand out their module setups and only attack when you're prepared? It's enough that the're giving you easy jamming setups (and this far I hav't seen a single SF fleet not fielding a blackbird or Rook), because handing out free defense configurations would have been a bit too much. The PIE are proud, but there is a limit to how far you take that pride if it means losing the advantage of unpredictability. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Wrabloc Casimi Amarr House Casimi	Posted - 2007.04.05 05:32:00 - [181] House Casimi supports PIE and Aegis Militia in this endeavour, and will begin mass producing Punisher and Executioner class starships in Empire space for use by PIE and Aegis Militia. I encourage PIE and AM to contact Gothika Mamet by Eve-Mail with your needs, and she will do her best to accomidate your needs. God Speed to the Empire Loyalists, and may the Star Fraction be reduced to rubble.
Bacchanalian Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 05:52:00 - [182] Originally by: Wrabloc Casimi House Casimi supports PIE and Aegis Militia in this endeavour, and will begin mass producing Punisher and Executioner class starships in Empire space for use by PIE and Aegis Militia. I encourage PIE and AM to contact Gothika Mamet by Eve-Mail with your needs, and she will do her best to accomidate your needs. God Speed to the Empire Loyalists, and may the Star Fraction be reduced to rubble. Oh shoot, we're baked now. Quick, someone provide us with an endless supply of Tristans or we'll be done! Star Fraction is recruiting, join the revolution!
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 06:05:00 - [183] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Interseting figures indeed. I could of course produce statistics that shows that the figures in this war are closer to 1:1. But if your figures makes you happy then by all means stick to them. Come to think of it I could probably also produce statistics that shows the exchange rate as 329:1 in our favour. Perhaps if you're incapable of doing simple division. By the way, the ratio is now 3.63, thanks. As I said, if your little numbers keep you happy, by all means stick to them. Of course, statistics can be tweaked to show just about anything you want, but just ignore that. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Takakura Hirohito	Posted - 2007.04.05 06:48:00 - [184] What are the URL addresses for the PIE and Star Fraction killboards? I would like to compare the two and see who is really ahead instead of trying to compare 10 different ratio statistics from 10 different sides.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.04.05 07:10:00 - [185] Originally by: Takakura Hirohito What are the URL addresses for the PIE and Star Fraction killboards? I would like to compare the two and see who is really ahead instead of trying to compare 10 different ratio statistics from 10 different sides. ((it's against the rules to post links to killboards. use google)) ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Bacchanalian Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 07:10:00 - [186] Originally by: Takakura Hirohito What are the URL addresses for the PIE and Star Fraction killboards? I would like to compare the two and see who is really ahead instead of trying to compare 10 different ratio statistics from 10 different sides. If you want a link to the Star Fraction board, feel free to EVE Mail me. I do not believe this is a place for linking them, though I could be mistaken. Moreover, I do not believe PIE bothers to post their losses, whatever the reason, so theirs may be wildly inaccurate. Star Fraction is recruiting, join the revolution!
The Yzzerman Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.04.05 08:45:00 - [187] PIE where are you?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.05 09:27:00 - [188] Originally by: Wrabloc Casimi House Casimi supports PIE and Aegis Militia in this endeavour, and will begin mass producing Punisher and Executioner class starships in Empire space for use by PIE and Aegis Militia. I encourage PIE and AM to contact Gothika Mamet by Eve-Mail with your needs, and she will do her best to accomidate your needs. God Speed to the Empire Loyalists, and may the Star Fraction be reduced to rubble. With allied like these who needs enemies? Keep up the good work House Casimi!!!! I'm sure the vessels you offer are very fitting to the pilots who you present them. Originally by: The Yzzerman PIE where are you? You'll find them inside stations at Empire, Amarr, Kor-Azor, around that block doing some "important thing" while camped by a member the "unholy trinity" and making their department of forum PR burn their heads to try to make them still look good. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 09:43:00 - [189] Originally by: Wrabloc Casimi House Casimi supports PIE and Aegis Militia in this endeavour, and will begin mass producing Punisher and Executioner class starships in Empire space for use by PIE and Aegis Militia. I encourage PIE and AM to contact Gothika Mamet by Eve-Mail with your needs, and she will do her best to accomidate your needs. God Speed to the Empire Loyalists, and may the Star Fraction be reduced to rubble. Thank you for your kind offer Mr Casimi. In addition to its own highly active industrial division, PIE Inc already has a number of supply agreements with allied corporations. As such, it is unlikely that we will be making usage of your generosity at this time. Feel free to drop by the PIE Public channel at any time to learn more about us. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 09:45:00 - [190] Originally by: Revan Neferis You'll find them inside stations at Empire, Amarr, Kor-Azor, around that block doing some "important thing" while camped by a member the "unholy trinity" and making their department of forum PR burn their heads to try to make them still look good. Because of course, the brave leader of the Sani Sabik alliance is hardly ever seen in a station. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Grim86StonE Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.05 10:35:00 - [191] Originally by: Revan Neferis You'll find them inside stations at Empire, Amarr, Kor-Azor, around that block doing some "important thing" while camped by a member the "unholy trinity" and making their department of forum PR burn their heads to try to make them still look good. Oh this is rich indeed. Look who decided to talk about staying in stations and doing some important things. Besides calling hordes of mercenaries and other acolytes to do her bidding and of course besides her ceaseless ramblings on Galnet the so called "Lady" Revan also gives some very good advices as seen above. Now in case anyone wonders why she, (the so called "Lady") never leaves the confort of a station, I might shed some light on the situation. These holoreels are courtesy of the excelent pilots of Aegis Militia and osme of their illustrious allies : PIE and CVA. Please disregard the comical note about them, we enjoy them so much. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/RevankGank2.wmv http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/RevanGank.wmv Enjoy!
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 10:42:00 - [192] Originally by: Grim86StonE Besides calling hordes of mercenaries and other acolytes to do her bidding ... I think I'll stop you there since the rest of your post is null. Star Fraction is recruiting
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.04.05 10:58:00 - [193] Obviously, PIE and their allies currently involved in the conflict are no match for the Star Fraction. That does not surprise me, but nevertheless, I would like to congratulate SF on victory accomplished in less than a week. What I don't understand, is what is with all this arguing and shooting in the air trying to intimidate your enemies, and force them to fight a battle they can not win. There is always bigger fish to fry, and in all honesty, Star Fraction will not be able to do it from Amarr. You have allies, you have the resources. Why the delay?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.05 11:18:00 - [194] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/04/2007 11:19:07 Originally by: Grim86StonE Originally by: Revan Neferis You'll find them inside stations at Empire, Amarr, Kor-Azor, around that block doing some "important thing" while camped by a member the "unholy trinity" and making their department of forum PR burn their heads to try to make them still look good. Oh this is rich indeed. Look who decided to talk about staying in stations and doing some important things. Besides calling hordes of mercenaries and other acolytes to do her bidding and of course besides her ceaseless ramblings on Galnet the so called "Lady" Revan also gives some very good advices as seen above. Now in case anyone wonders why she, (the so called "Lady") never leaves the confort of a station, I might shed some light on the situation. These holoreels are courtesy of the excelent pilots of Aegis Militia and osme of their illustrious allies : PIE and CVA. Please disregard the comical note about them, we enjoy them so much. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/RevankGank2.wmv http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/RevanGank.wmv Enjoy! I keep telling, these videos are clearly the state of how important I become to AM and PIE universe. these are of course year old, I have spent my life at 0.0 and low sec and have been killed thousand of times by other 0.0 alliances, I shall demand a video for each of my new clone's casuality! At any case, it does prove a simple fact: if a ship can be killed, is because it's at space not at station * winks* Good heaven's I'm glad that I don't claim to be a paramilitary pilot but a Politician, imagine if I'd have to face the shame you PIE and AM people are facing now... How do you actually have the capacity to use every word and PR against you? It's hilarious. Thanks for the holorells dear, I had missed the links to my collection. Oh and notice I'm always honoured to remind how many ships AM thinks is needed to get to face "Moi" Regards Revan "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.05 11:25:00 - [195] Originally by: Ituralde Originally by: Garreck I've heard rumors of an Amarr paramilitary pushing the boundaries of oppression and various outmoded memes into the Providence region. I think your campaign is misplaced, though you'll tell me I'm wrong. What better place than Amarr itself, Garreck? Simple matter of attainable objectives. Star Fraction, while posing a reasonable threat to PIE, cannot harm the Holy Empire. Attacking PIE does nothing to harm the Empire or even slow down paramilitary expansionism. If Star Fraction are content to trade "effective results" for "clever publicity," that's their own lookout I suppose. But expect to be called on it. PIE will weather this seige, the much ballyhooed kill ratio will narrow, Star Fraction will end the war before said ratio becomes unfavorable and will then claim victory... And will have accomplished nothing.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 11:42:00 - [196] y'know, you're starting to sound like CYI, and KD before them... -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 11:54:00 - [197] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 05/04/2007 11:50:36 Originally by: Tecam Hund Obviously, PIE and their allies currently involved in the conflict are no match for the Star Fraction. That does not surprise me, but nevertheless, I would like to congratulate SF on victory accomplished in less than a week. Thank you for your regards Tecam, but we're not anywhere near victory yet in my opinion, the fight has only begun.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 12:12:00 - [198] Originally by: Tecam Hund Obviously, PIE and their allies currently involved in the conflict are no match for the Star Fraction. That does not surprise me, but nevertheless, I would like to congratulate SF on victory accomplished in less than a week. What I don't understand, is what is with all this arguing and shooting in the air trying to intimidate your enemies, and force them to fight a battle they can not win. There is always bigger fish to fry, and in all honesty, Star Fraction will not be able to do it from Amarr. You have allies, you have the resources. Why the delay? You don't kill an organisation like PIE in a single week. Their pride alone is worth another few, past glories a handful more. Their allies another month perhaps. Their mystique and place in the history of the cluster: a little more time beyond this. The point is that it will in all likelihood take several months until PIE is reduced to the status of post war KD and CYI. But while they are suppressed they will bleed energy and commitment from their member base and morale will begin to fail. Thats the long game Tecam. There are no short cuts to meaningful victory. This war has hardly started. Star Fraction is recruiting
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.05 12:19:00 - [199] Everyone is entitled to his own delusions. Garreck summed it up quite nicely. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.05 12:22:00 - [200] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Babble Many have tried but killing PIE is something that no other entity has ever achieved. It is also way out of your league. ---- It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Axen Vormar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 12:34:00 - [201] Edited by: Axen Vormar on 05/04/2007 12:30:52 Originally by: Redwolf Many have tried but killing PIE is something that no other entity has ever achieved. It is also way out of your league. Who can kill people that have access to cloning anyway? We are brutal anarchists, longing for a revolution. And that means: we want to change their minds. Maybe they will set themselves free from the imperialist dogma, if not, then we shall fight. Deaf ears will meet bullets that shatter bones and mind alike.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 12:39:00 - [202] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine You don't kill an organisation like PIE in a single week. Heh. Wench. ----------------------------------------------
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.05 13:33:00 - [203] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger y'know, you're starting to sound like CYI, and KD before them... To be sure. In a case like this, it will take a year for the difference between CYI/KD and PIE to be seen. Time is the only real measure of dedication stated and dedication true.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 13:43:00 - [204] Originally by: Garreck In a case like this, it will take a year for the difference between CYI/KD and PIE to be seen. Time is the only real measure of dedication stated and dedication true. Do not make the mistake of underestimating our will. We are quite aware that the undertaking will last considerably longer than that in Mito and have made our plans accordingly. Anyone who imagines we can be waited out is deluding themselves. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 14:18:00 - [205] Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 05/04/2007 14:25:32 Originally by: The Cosmopolite Anyone who imagines we can be waited out is deluding themselves. Well I'm sure the only party involved in this little attempt of yours to provoke a reaction or win some sort of imaginary Galnet popularity contest, that cares about your nonexistant agenda and your estimate on the length of it's execution, is the CONCORD financial department. But thanks for the heads up I guess, even if statements such as these are worthless coming from a group of people who take turns contradicting eachother's opinions.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 14:36:00 - [206] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 05/04/2007 14:25:32 Originally by: The Cosmopolite Anyone who imagines we can be waited out is deluding themselves. Well I'm sure the only party involved in this little attempt of yours to provoke a reaction or win some sort of imaginary Galnet popularity contest, that cares about your nonexistant agenda and your estimate on the length of it's execution, is the CONCORD financial department. But thanks for the heads up I guess, even if statements such as these are worthless coming from a group of people who take turns contradicting eachother's opinions. You missed out the word "Hypocrite". It appears to be the word of the moment thatÆs to be crow bared into every sentence like a kid whoÆs learnt a rude word. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 14:47:00 - [207] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger You missed out the word "Hypocrite". I think you meant "Opportunist", but earning my rhetoric badge isn't on the top of my list.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 15:18:00 - [208] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Well I'm sure the only party involved in this little attempt of yours to provoke a reaction or win some sort of imaginary Galnet popularity contest, that cares about your nonexistant agenda and your estimate on the length of it's execution, is the CONCORD financial department. Faintly amusing. I've noted your attempts to suggest that paying CONCORD war fees is in some way a contradiction with our ideology. I would ask in response why an organisation that dislikes CONCORD so much û numerous of its members being on record as speaking against it and at length û has petitioned for and gained permission to engage in mutual warfare in CONCORD-protected space against certain entities? You may find amusement in our paying CONCORD to suspend your protected status vis a vis our pilots but I wonder really how you can do so without expressing distaste for the payments to CONCORD made by your Aegis Militia and Vigilia Valeria friends. However, I am inclined to think that dwelling overmuch on the various accomodations that our respective organisations need to make with the detestable CONCORD does little good. We pay CONCORD to suspend their protection of your pilots. You agree with CONCORD that you do not wish their protection when fighting certain entities. In both instances, we are disdainful of CONCORD but recognise that certain actions must be taken to achieve certain effects. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.05 15:40:00 - [209] I have the strange feeling that you didn't really miss the actual point but just decided to ignore it (like the still standing question for a clear definition of your actual goals). And as a sidenote I hate having to pay CONCORD, too. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.04.05 15:44:00 - [210] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Ituralde Originally by: Garreck I've heard rumors of an Amarr paramilitary pushing the boundaries of oppression and various outmoded memes into the Providence region. I think your campaign is misplaced, though you'll tell me I'm wrong. What better place than Amarr itself, Garreck? Simple matter of attainable objectives. Star Fraction, while posing a reasonable threat to PIE, cannot harm the Holy Empire. Attacking PIE does nothing to harm the Empire or even slow down paramilitary expansionism. If Star Fraction are content to trade "effective results" for "clever publicity," that's their own lookout I suppose. But expect to be called on it. PIE will weather this seige, the much ballyhooed kill ratio will narrow, Star Fraction will end the war before said ratio becomes unfavorable and will then claim victory... And will have accomplished nothing. Indeed... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 15:48:00 - [211] Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 05/04/2007 15:47:12 Originally by: The Cosmopolite Faintly amusing. I've noted your attempts to suggest that paying CONCORD war fees is in some way a contradiction with our ideology. I would ask in response why an organisation that dislikes CONCORD so much û numerous of its members being on record as speaking against it and at length û has petitioned for and gained permission to engage in mutual warfare in CONCORD-protected space against certain entities? Not agreeing with some of CONCORD's policies and respecting the Empire's decision to allow them to operate within it's borders aren't mutually exclusive actions, at least not for those loyal to the Empire. But I think you are missing what I was getting at, not that it matters much.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 16:28:00 - [212] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Not agreeing with some of CONCORD's policies and respecting the Empire's decision to allow them to operate within it's borders aren't mutually exclusive actions, at least not for those loyal to the Empire. But I think you are missing what I was getting at, not that it matters much. Not agreeing with CONCORD's policies and recognising the reality that we have to overcome the protection they afford to Amarrian loyalists in the Empire by one means or another are likewise not mutually exclusive actions. As to your point, yes, I missed it. So what? I don't care sufficiently about whatever it might be besides the jibe about CONCORD. Sound familiar? The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.05 17:41:00 - [213] Originally by: The Cosmopolite As to your point, yes, I missed it. So what? I don't care sufficiently about whatever it might be besides the jibe about CONCORD. Sound familiar? Yes, that's ok, Cosmopolite. Seems like asking SF a question is as fruitful as asking a class of preschool children their favorite color, so I'll just acknowledge Jade Constantine's vague hint of a goal that is the destruction of PIE and look forward to another victorious day.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.05 18:11:00 - [214] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Yes, that's ok, Cosmopolite. Seems like asking SF a question is as fruitful as asking a class of preschool children their favorite color, so I'll just acknowledge Jade Constantine's vague hint of a goal that is the destruction of PIE and look forward to another victorious day. Jade Constantine has not posted on this GalNet channel and indeed, as you may be aware, is not able to do so by order of the CRC. The war aims that we wish to publicise at this time are contained in the statement at the beginning of this thread. Progress has been made in this regard. At this time, we will say no more and Amarrian paramilitaries keep assuring us they don't care so we will continue to keep our own counsel for the moment. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.04.05 18:57:00 - [215] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Tecam Hund Obviously, PIE and their allies currently involved in the conflict are no match for the Star Fraction. That does not surprise me, but nevertheless, I would like to congratulate SF on victory accomplished in less than a week. What I don't understand, is what is with all this arguing and shooting in the air trying to intimidate your enemies, and force them to fight a battle they can not win. There is always bigger fish to fry, and in all honesty, Star Fraction will not be able to do it from Amarr. You have allies, you have the resources. Why the delay? You don't kill an organisation like PIE in a single week. Their pride alone is worth another few, past glories a handful more. Their allies another month perhaps. Their mystique and place in the history of the cluster: a little more time beyond this. The point is that it will in all likelihood take several months until PIE is reduced to the status of post war KD and CYI. But while they are suppressed they will bleed energy and commitment from their member base and morale will begin to fail. Thats the long game Tecam. There are no short cuts to meaningful victory. This war has hardly started. I suppose that would depend on the objective. Most wars are won or lost before the first shot is fired, and in my opinion PIE has no chances of emerging victorious in this conflict. They are outclassed. If eradication is what you seek, then certainly it is not over yet. It will be a lot of time spent on squishing worms though.
redialer Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.04.05 22:23:00 - [216] unlimited supplies at your request :D o - RMS \|\___0 - Coulition Of CAREBEAR killiers \|\\|\\_\_ red1
redialer Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.04.06 03:23:00 - [217] holy hell were's the love red1 CPP bash me
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 09:53:00 - [218] What is the matter with you anarchists? Lack self esteem? Discipline is for the devoted. 4 km/s whining vagabonds are not going to win you any war, you know, nor will.. EM tanked Sleipnirs. ----------------------------------------------
Axen Vormar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:19:00 - [219] I'll take you single handed, dog. Stop underestimating the ship and the pilot. You'll be ready for reeducation when I am done with you.
Azure Skyclad Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:33:00 - [220] Edited by: Azure Skyclad on 06/04/2007 10:29:24 Originally by: Gaius Kador What is the matter with you anarchists? Lack self esteem? Self esteem? I'm not the one who rises every morning and mutters to a myth for guidance and strength. I look to my own two hands for that. Takes guts Gaius. Quote: Discipline is for the devoted. .........implying only the pious possess discipline? Come now Gaius, you're blind maybe but not stupid. Quote: 4 km/s whining vagabonds are not going to win you any war, you know, nor will.. EM tanked Sleipnirs. Tiny pieces in a larger mosaic so i'm not really sure why you bring this up. Are you lacking anything better to say? http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/
Pagan God Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:02:00 - [221] *****************FLASH NEWS************** - The SF's kill ratio is now 1.544.233,53 : 1 (and keeps growing by 234/minute) - Statistics show that 99.99% of AM pilots remain docked 100% of their life and eat sugar-coated donuts while the SF's brave pilots kill everything in sight - Also, we are told that SF already won this war (from before they thought about declareing it actually) as they did another 10 wars to various corporations and alliances amongst wich BoB and some other ones not yet created. - we also found out that Revan's new "special friend" is the Jovian Minister of Foreign Relations...for the next 5.21 hours ******************END OF FLASH NEWS*********** Now that u feel better with yourselves stop the forum **ing and continue this war with the little pride u have left, don't become revans. disclaimer: the above represents my personal opinion and does not represent the views of The Aegis Militia or none of the pilots that are curently, were, or will ever be in any sort of relationship with The AM.
Desslokh	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:06:00 - [222] sf pilots should try to learn some decent fittings for their ships..i'm sure that this will be a very difficult task for them... and don't be afraid to fight in low sec spece...nobody lives froever :)
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:44:00 - [223] Originally by: Pagan God *****************FLASH NEWS************** - we also found out that Revan's new "special friend" is the Jovian Minister of Foreign Relations...for the next 5.21 hours ******************END OF FLASH NEWS*********** Oh no... Jade, I swear, it was just dinner, nothing else!! The jovian gentlemen was not attractive!!! Pagan God, knowing you from the times of VF, I expected more of you my old friend. What a shame. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"**
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 13:38:00 - [224] Quote: Self esteem? I'm not the one who rises every morning and mutters to a myth for guidance and strength. I look to my own two hands for that. Takes guts Gaius. Left to your own two hands? Sounds like you need to find a friend wench. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 14:40:00 - [225] Originally by: Axen Vormar I'll take you single handed, dog. Stop underestimating the ship and the pilot. You'll be ready for reeducation when I am done with you. Sad little peon, I am your better. ----------------------------------------------
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 15:19:00 - [226] Originally by: Gaius Kador Originally by: Axen Vormar I'll take you single handed, dog. Stop underestimating the ship and the pilot. You'll be ready for reeducation when I am done with you. Sad little peon, I am your better. all available evidence seems to indicate otherwise. DonÆt you think its about time you stopped deluding yourself? -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 15:24:00 - [227] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: Self esteem? I'm not the one who rises every morning and mutters to a myth for guidance and strength. I look to my own two hands for that. Takes guts Gaius. Left to your own two hands? Sounds like you need to find a friend wench. Archbishop Are you offering to lend Azure one of your Altarboyz? Star Fraction is recruiting
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 15:24:00 - [228] Originally by: Desslokh sf pilots should try to learn some decent fittings for their ships..i'm sure that this will be a very difficult task for them... and don't be afraid to fight in low sec spece...nobody lives froever :) hey Octavinus! I think theres someone in this hole with us! -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 15:26:00 - [229] Originally by: Desslokh sf pilots should try to learn some decent fittings for their ships..i'm sure that this will be a very difficult task for them... Good enough to blow up another of your Battleships this afternoon though. Maybe you should work on your own fittings before handing out advise Amarrian. Star Fraction is recruiting
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 15:26:00 - [230] Is that you accepting his challenge, Gaius? Or are you just going to hide, whine, and hope someone out there believes you? Ah, but of course, you are going to let your cowardly ROE make up for your honor, aren't you? Fair enough. We need not concern ourselves with such protections the so-called 'Praetorians' put in place for themselves. We have little more we need to argue. The truth is on our side. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:18:00 - [231] Originally by: Ituralde Is that you accepting his challenge, Gaius? Or are you just going to hide, whine, and hope someone out there believes you? Aren't you a little too old to be playing 'Dare' ?
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:24:00 - [232] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Aren't you a little too old to be playing 'Dare' ? Playing? No, this is no game, Kaiso Ohad. We take our honor very seriously and defend it with martial power if we deem it necessary. I guess it's no surprise that you are unfamiliar with such a concept. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:31:00 - [233] Definetly Aridia. ----------------------------------------------
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:34:00 - [234] Originally by: Gaius Kador Definetly Aridia. If Aridia is the home of Amarrians that aren't utter weaklings, perhaps you should have done some recruiting there, yes? _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Kovid Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:35:00 - [235] Originally by: Gaius Kador 4 km/s whining vagabonds are not going to win you any war, you know, nor will.. EM tanked Sleipnirs. Domain will continue to be patrolled by highly skilled pilots piloting fine Thukker Mix and Boundless Creations (among others) technologies. And no the ship does not win the war. The people/pilot do. In the meantime Dante's Production continues in Amarr. Even residents of Providence seem were interested in buying AND participating in the holoreels. But the real business is Amarr from what I hear. ---------------------------------- An informal Star Fraction FAQ \| ----------------------------------
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:38:00 - [236] Originally by: Ituralde We take our honor very seriously and defend it with martial power if we deem it necessary. It's right there in front of you.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:44:00 - [237] What, do you honestly expect us to individually hunt down every single fool who spits from the sidelines? Hardly, only against those we deem significant. Perhaps though we estimated significance incorrectly with PIE? It seems only your ego is up to scratch. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:46:00 - [238] Originally by: Ituralde What, do you honestly expect us to individually hunt down every single fool who spits from the sidelines? Hardly, only against those we deem significant. My thoughts exactly.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:50:00 - [239] Its your choice to pretend a force that is actively at war with you and makes you unable to travel freely throughout the empire is insignificant. Though by all means, don't let common sense stop you; at this rate you will fit right in with the rest of your comrades. I thought that PIE would sooner die than refer to Amarr as a 'sideline' but perhaps those days are now long past. Or, perhaps, they never existed in the first place? One can only guess... _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 17:04:00 - [240] Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 06/04/2007 17:03:43 Originally by: Ituralde Its your choice to pretend a force that is actively at war with you and makes you unable to travel freely throughout the empire is insignificant. Empire space not being safe for pilots of Amarrian Paramilitaries is the status quo and hardly news. My point is there's really no incentive for me to actively engage someone whose one and only goal is the destruction of my ship until I see fit. You aren't a threat to anyone or anything but my ship and its crew, and no amount of yelling "Undock!" or questioning my honor or courage is going to change anything about that. So let's lose the attitude.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 17:19:00 - [241] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Empire space not being safe for pilots of Amarrian Paramilitaries is the status quo and hardly news. My point is there's really no incentive for me to actively engage someone whose one and only goal is the destruction of my ship until I see fit. You aren't a threat to anyone or anything but my ship and its crew, and no amount of yelling "Undock!" or questioning my honor or courage is going to change anything about that. So let's lose the attitude. Don't make a mistake. We actually like you running and hiding ineffectually. It proves our point about the ideological weakness of capsular nationalism very appropriately. Its good to find out that PIE are not the exception to the Mito and Placid rule. Star Fraction is recruiting
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.06 17:29:00 - [242] Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 06/04/2007 17:26:43 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Don't make a mistake. We actually like you running and hiding ineffectually. It proves our point about the ideological weakness of capsular nationalism very appropriately. Its good to find out that PIE are not the exception to the Mito and Placid rule. The situation will prove to you whatever you want it to prove to you. I've already spent my last grains of salt the last time you fought causality by accusing your enemy of passivity and making up exaggerated statistics at the same time, so I'll leave you to it.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.06 17:31:00 - [243] I admit I have some distant and lingering attachments to the empire and it pains me to a degree that those fighting in its name and for its people have so little respect for it. But alas, its merely one part indicative of the degradation of the whole and shows all the more that there are elements that need to be purged for the sake of the people living in the Empire now. But, as it seems to be generally the case, Jasmine is right. A cowering enemy is one we have to waste little time on; it makes our job easier. As satisfying as it would be to watch your ships melt under my lasers, it seems that I will have to settle with a slow fading into obscurity as your ultimate doom. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Khavi Vetali Team Americas Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.06 17:32:00 - [244] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad My point is there's really no incentive for me to actively engage someone whose one and only goal is the destruction of my ship until I see fit. Isn't that a goal in every conflict? The destruction of the means and resources to continue to fight? You must run, safespot and dock quite often. Also, just because they haven't stated any long term goals doesn't mean they don't have them. Originally by: Itanis "Hello there mate, I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm going to have to sodomize you with howitzers. Have a lovely day!"
Yoshito Sanders Amarr The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.07 04:06:00 - [245] Just to cut off any attempts at spin. Aegis Militia has temporarily retracted the war on Star Fraction. If things go off without a hitch, the fighting will restart a few moments after the war is officially over. However, things rarely go off without a hitch, so there may be a short period of time where we are unable to fight each other. We would not do this under normal circumstances, but CONCORD rules and regulations demand that we drop the war at the present time.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 04:29:00 - [246] Originally by: Yo**o Sanders Just to cut off any attempts at spin. Aegis Militia has temporarily retracted the war on Star Fraction. If things go off without a hitch, the fighting will restart a few moments after the war is officially over. However, things rarely go off without a hitch, so there may be a short period of time where we are unable to fight each other. We would not do this under normal circumstances, but CONCORD rules and regulations demand that we drop the war at the present time. So you're not moving to Syndicate to live among the stars? _
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 09:09:00 - [247] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Don't make a mistake. We actually like you running and hiding ineffectually. If you are quite happy with the situation as it is, why have you spent the last 8 pages of this thread whining about it? As for the "running and hiding" bit, that's entirely your version. It has been said before - we have many enemies and will deal with them in order of importance. You people just don't rank that high on the list. But don't worry - we'll get around to dealing with you eventually. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.07 10:53:00 - [248] Originally by: Yo**o Sanders Just to cut off any attempts at spin. Aegis Militia has temporarily retracted the war on Star Fraction. If things go off without a hitch, the fighting will restart a few moments after the war is officially over. However, things rarely go off without a hitch, so there may be a short period of time where we are unable to fight each other. We would not do this under normal circumstances, but CONCORD rules and regulations demand that we drop the war at the present time. The Sani Sabik ackowledges your "temporary surrender" against our allied forces and will be ending our wars accordingly. "Power destroys the ones who dont have it"
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.07 12:33:00 - [249] So, which of your goals have been achieved so far apart from filling page after page with your usual, mindless smacktalk? Quick, you can make up as many as you want now as you wiggled like worms and refused to name your actual goals from start. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Razor Jaxx Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 12:53:00 - [250] Originally by: Tharrn So, which of your goals have been achieved so far apart from filling page after page with your usual, mindless smacktalk? Quick, you can make up as many as you want now as you wiggled like worms and refused to name your actual goals from start. It's not our goals you should be concerned with, tyrant, but yours. How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? Or maybe your 'protector' ideal was that of a 'pimp' all along?
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 13:07:00 - [251] Originally by: Razor Jaxx How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? All you turn is coats.
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 13:29:00 - [252] Originally by: Razor Jaxx Originally by: Tharrn So, which of your goals have been achieved so far apart from filling page after page with your usual, mindless smacktalk? Quick, you can make up as many as you want now as you wiggled like worms and refused to name your actual goals from start. It's not our goals you should be concerned with, tyrant, but yours. How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? Or maybe your 'protector' ideal was that of a 'pimp' all along? If what you are doing in Amarr was considered a threat or pronounced illegal activity the Amarr Navy would destroy you rather promptly. Enjoy sitting in Amarr beating your chests, the borders of the Empire continue to expand.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 13:54:00 - [253] But for how long, slaver? While you curators may enjoy some small measure of success lately, your empire-bound brethren (unparalleled by the way, in the chest-beating department) have already largely been shown up for the toothless, spineless curs that they are. Granted one segment of the paramilitaries has shown a semblance of backbone by bringing the fight in a consistent manner, but the self-styled "Empire's Finest" have been conspicuous only by their consistent absence. One wonders how long it will take before the idea sinks in among the oppressed and disenchanted of the cluster that the dogs of the emperor have had their tails tightly cropped, their teeth filed down and are now in fact no more than harmless, house-bound pets....
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 14:20:00 - [254] Another change of tune.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 14:45:00 - [255] How so, slaver? In any case, my tune is my tune and only that. Don't assume it is anything more.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.07 15:08:00 - [256] Originally by: Razor Jaxx It's not our goals you should be concerned with, tyrant, but yours. How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? Or maybe your 'protector' ideal was that of a 'pimp' all along? As I said: we are prepared for a long campaign. You in contrast are already proclaiming victory after a week here. So stick with your delusions of winning a war - we'll talk again in a few months. Or maybe it's all just a failed attempt at 'propaganda' and 'psyops'? Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Atandros Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 15:22:00 - [257] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Razor Jaxx It's not our goals you should be concerned with, tyrant, but yours. How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? Or maybe your 'protector' ideal was that of a 'pimp' all along? As I said: we are prepared for a long campaign. You in contrast are already proclaiming victory after a week here. Nobody from SF to my knowledge has declared victory yet. What we have been pointing out is the evident ineptitude, lethargy and disorganization of the Amarrian paramilitaries, and the total rout you have suffered thus far. Quote: we'll talk again in a few months. I look forward to it, and await the ace up your sleeve with bated breath. -------
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 15:45:00 - [258] Originally by: Solusar If what you are doing in Amarr was considered a threat or pronounced illegal activity the Amarr Navy would destroy you rather promptly. Enjoy sitting in Amarr beating your chests, the borders of the Empire continue to expand. If the worthless galnet stalkers of the CVA want to dance they have to buy a ticket. Otherwise they can be ignored as the irrelevence they clearly are. Star Fraction is recruiting
Dominus1 Gallente Trojan Ink	Posted - 2007.04.07 18:37:00 - [259] To the fine capsuleers of the Star Fraction: Trojan Ink wishes to lends its support in your latest endeavor to wipe PIE off the star maps. We are relatively new corp to New Eden and would like to assist in any way possible with arms and material. Please convo or EVE-mail when the opportunity presents itself. Again good luck in your campaign and fly safe all of you. Regards, Dominus1 Causing trouble as best I can!
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 19:13:00 - [260] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine If the worthless galnet stalkers of the CVA want to dance they have to buy a ticket. Otherwise they can be ignored as the irrelevence they clearly are. That is satisfactory. We've got the better dance floor and a hotter date.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 20:30:00 - [261] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/04/2007 20:27:01 I suggest you check the news, Mr. Ituralde. You might find the article about events that took place while PIE pilots were "Unable to travel freely" to be an interesting refutation of the idea that Amarrian Paramilitaries have been suppressed. When you are the most important target in the area, you will be targeted, but when there are more important business items on the agenda of helping to defend Amarr, you become little more than annoyance to be batted away and shot at a later date. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 20:47:00 - [262] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I suggest you check the news, Mr. Ituralde. You might find the article about events that took place while PIE pilots were "Unable to travel freely" to be an interesting refutation of the idea that Amarrian Paramilitaries have been suppressed. Given that the news fails to mention that a Star Fraction battlegroup slightly smaller than the PIE group interdicted and destroyed the fleet commanded by Rodj Blake as it returned from Ordion, it would be somewhat disingenuous to cite it as evidence that Amarrian paramilitaries are able to travel freely. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:04:00 - [263] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I suggest you check the news, Mr. Ituralde. You might find the article about events that took place while PIE pilots were "Unable to travel freely" to be an interesting refutation of the idea that Amarrian Paramilitaries have been suppressed. Given that the news fails to mention that a Star Fraction battlegroup slightly smaller than the PIE group interdicted and destroyed the fleet commanded by Rodj Blake as it returned from Ordion, it would be somewhat disingenuous to cite it as evidence that Amarrian paramilitaries are able to travel freely. The Cosmopolite Something tells me this embarrassing faux pas from Gaven indicates the degree to which he is remote from the current status of the war in space. Posting about the free transit of a battlegroup that was subsequently eliminated by a Star Fraction combat wing strikes a very amusing note from this Amarrian dockmonkey. Star Fraction is recruiting
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:06:00 - [264] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri an interesting refutation of the idea that Amarrian Paramilitaries have been suppressed. Originally by: The Cosmopolite it would be somewhat disingenuous to cite it as evidence that Amarrian paramilitaries are able to travel freely. You're refuting a statement that was not made, Mr. Cosmopolite. SF are boasting of kill ratios to prove their success against PIE. PIE have tangible proof, however, that they are still quitecapable of carrying out their mission of defense of the Empire.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:13:00 - [265] Edited by: Heero Yuy on 07/04/2007 21:10:10 Self-defence, however, appears to be beyond their remit and/or capabilities. An interesting dichotomy right there.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:14:00 - [266] I believe that that engagement, despite it being a minor defeat, when taken with the second successful escort later, is proof of what I have said already on these forums. We will engage you when we chose, and while you may win some victories, you will take your losses as well. Any attempts to suggest that PIE is already on the road to defeat will just make you look worse when you realize you cannot win this war and run off again. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:15:00 - [267] Originally by: Garreck You're refuting a statement that was not made, Mr. Cosmopolite. And you are intervening with galnet posts in a conflict you have precisely nothing to do with. Unless you want the reputation of a man who can achieve nothing in space and must instead chatter endlessly on the galnet you should avoid the topics concerning the actual war unless you are prepared to do something to make a difference. Star Fraction is recruiting
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:16:00 - [268] Originally by: Heero Yuy Edited by: Heero Yuy on 07/04/2007 21:10:10 Self-defence, however, appears to be beyond their remit and/or capabilities. An interesting dichotomy right there. Cute, but irrelevant. What you should be doing is agreeing with Jasmine that obviously one week ain't gonna get the job done. Roll up your sleeves and to it, Fractionite.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:17:00 - [269] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Any attempts to suggest that PIE is already on the road to defeat will just make you look worse when you realize you cannot win this war and run off again. Brave words for a dockmonkey. I'll pay you more mind when I see you in space. Star Fraction is recruiting
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:18:00 - [270] The CVA has no need to enter this war. They are perfectly positioned to continue to expand Amarr while you waste your time failing to suppress PIE. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:22:00 - [271] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri The CVA has no need to enter this war. They are perfectly positioned to continue to expand Amarr while you waste your time failing to suppress PIE. You'll forgive me for ignoring the words of a coward of course. Star Fraction is recruiting
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:23:00 - [272] It is nice to know you are reduced to petty insults rather than arguments. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:24:00 - [273] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Garreck You're refuting a statement that was not made, Mr. Cosmopolite. And you are intervening with galnet posts in a conflict you have precisely nothing to do with. And that is something especially you never do naturally. Oh, come on... bitter that the CVA is not acting as you had planned? You sound a bit whiney there. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:25:00 - [274] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine And you are intervening with galnet posts in a conflict you have precisely nothing to do with. Unless you want the reputation of a man who can achieve nothing in space and must instead chatter endlessly on the galnet you should avoid the topics concerning the actual war unless you are prepared to do something to make a difference. My reputation is of no concern. If putting some perspective on Fractionite spin marks me an incapable pilot, so much the worse for those who do encounter me in space.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:25:00 - [275] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri It is nice to know you are reduced to petty insults rather than arguments. Well Gaven, in the absence of an actual target in space our options are limited. I'd love to fire tech2 hybrid rounds at you but that rather involves you undocking first. Star Fraction is recruiting
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:27:00 - [276] Edited by: Heero Yuy on 07/04/2007 21:25:30 Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Heero Yuy Edited by: Heero Yuy on 07/04/2007 21:10:10 Self-defence, however, appears to be beyond their remit and/or capabilities. An interesting dichotomy right there. Cute, but irrelevant. Of course. After all, everything not in accordance with your opinions must be irrelevant. Whatever you say the fact remains that we are in your capital system, spoiling for a fight. Your allies, however, steadfastly refuse to engage or undock. Spin it entirely how you like, the "praetorians" appears simply to lack both the courage, moral fortitude and military capability to engage our limited numbers. When their compatriots occasionally make an inept attempt, they generally die most spectacularly. That, of course, is as it should be, but it would be better by far if they found it within themselves to make more of an effort.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:33:00 - [277] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri in full You might find the article about events that took place while PIE pilots were "Unable to travel freely" to be an interesting refutation of the idea that Amarrian Paramilitaries have been suppressed. Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri as edited by Garreck an interesting refutation of the idea that Amarrian Paramilitaries have been suppressed. Originally by: The Cosmopolite it would be somewhat disingenuous to cite it as evidence that Amarrian paramilitaries are able to travel freely. You're refuting a statement that was not made, Mr. Cosmopolite. SF are boasting of kill ratios to prove their success against PIE. PIE have tangible proof, however, that they are still quitecapable of carrying out their mission of defense of the Empire. Hence, not suppressed. Gaven Lok'ri's full remarks made use of the phrase 'unable to travel freely' in a clearly ironic manner. I note you carefully left that out of your quote-chopping. I simply shrug at this. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:35:00 - [278] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Any attempts to suggest that PIE is already on the road to defeat will just make you look worse when you realize you cannot win this war and run off again. Once again, no one from the Star Fraction has declared victory or judged PIE to be defeated. It is only your friends and allies that seek to put such a construction on our words. We have the will for a long and bloody war and we fully expect one. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:38:00 - [279] We can but hope....
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:38:00 - [280] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Gaven Lok'ri's full remarks made use of the phrase 'unable to travel freely' in a clearly ironic manner. I note you carefully left that out of your quote-chopping. I left it out because it was accurate enough: Let's get to the technical truth of the matter. PIE are still capable of travelling freely enough to accomplish their stated mission. So long as they continue to be capable of doing so, your war is a failure. Which is why, I'm sure, we're seeing Fractionites get a bit worked up.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:38:00 - [281] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/04/2007 21:34:48 Choosing to engage is traveling freely, even if you lose the battle. The fact that your destruction of the first escort fleet was after the objectives were accomplished, and that you failed to bother the second one at all, suggests to me that yes PIE can travel freely when it feels like it. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:39:00 - [282] I find it most mindboggling how you mnage to kill battlegroups of people that never undock. I think it can be summed up as: SF are talking out of their arses at least 50% of the time. In fact that's a statement I have found to hold true throughout SF history. At least you are consistant in some points. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:42:00 - [283] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/04/2007 21:34:48 Choosing to engage is traveling freely, even if you lose the battle. The fact that your destruction of the first escort fleet was after the objectives were accomplished, and that you failed to bother the second one at all, suggests to me that yes PIE can travel freely when it feels like it. Anyone can travel freely at the helm of interceptors with warp core stabilization modules Gaven. Whether thats actually helping much to "defend the empire" - thats another kettle of fish entirely. Star Fraction is recruiting
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:46:00 - [284] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Whether thats actually helping much to "defend the empire" - thats another kettle of fish entirely. We're coming full circle. As has been pointed out, PIE have already demonstrated this capability.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:46:00 - [285] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: The Cosmopolite Gaven Lok'ri's full remarks made use of the phrase 'unable to travel freely' in a clearly ironic manner. I note you carefully left that out of your quote-chopping. I left it out because it was accurate enough: You quoted out-of-context to fit the words to your own particular purpose in comparing my remarks and Gaven Lok'ri's. Accurate? Hardly. Quote: Let's get to the technical truth of the matter. PIE are still capable of travelling freely enough to accomplish their stated mission. So long as they continue to be capable of doing so, your war is a failure. Which is why, I'm sure, we're seeing Fractionites get a bit worked up. I'm not worked up in any way. If you are making so obvious a point as to say that any war is a failure until it yields victory, then that is fine. I think is rather banal and trite as points go, personally. The war continues. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:49:00 - [286] Originally by: The Cosmopolite I think is rather banal and trite as points go, personally. It's right up there with space not being entirely safe for a corporation with active wars.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:50:00 - [287] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri And Cosmopolite, your organization's rhetoric is as random as your organization's ideals. Some of you are talking as if PIE is gone and dead, others are saying it will take months. Some of you are saying we have taken crippling losses, while others say we never undock. Make up your minds. I repeat, only you and your friends and allies are putting the construction on our words that PIE is defeated. We know the war will be long and we are quite prepared to commit to a lengthy and brutal war. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:52:00 - [288] Originally by: Garreck Which is why, I'm sure, we're seeing Fractionites get a bit worked up. Either that or we are quite sensibly harnessing your windy (if vaporous) bravado to ensure that our war declaration remains at the top of the IGS "hot topics" of discussion. I wonder? Star Fraction is recruiting
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:55:00 - [289] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite I think is rather banal and trite as points go, personally. It's right up there with space not being entirely safe for a corporation with active wars. So why are you making that point instead of demonstrating it? The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:55:00 - [290] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Garreck Which is why, I'm sure, we're seeing Fractionites get a bit worked up. Either that or we are quite sensibly harnessing your windy (if vaporous) bravado to ensure that our war declaration remains at the top of the IGS "hot topics" of discussion. I wonder? Why should it not be? I'd be happy for it to remain at the top for a year running so that when Star Fraction are forced to admit defeat, we can all look at the hollow insults you hurled at my betters just to harness my windy, vaporous bravado.
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:00:00 - [291] Originally by: The Cosmopolite So why are you making that point instead of demonstrating it? There's nothing to demonstrate as far as I'm concerned.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:12:00 - [292] Originally by: Garreck Why should it not be? I'd be happy for it to remain at the top for a year running so that when Star Fraction are forced to admit defeat, we can all look at the hollow insults you hurled at my betters just to harness my windy, vaporous bravado. Your betters perhaps, not the betters of anyone else. I guess its painful to discover that you have prostituted yourself to a civilization of cowards and dock monkeys but those are the breaks Garreck. Still, I'm left wondering why you are spending all your time posting on galnet for an organisation that is resolutely uninvolved in this conflict. You remind me of a hungry little child pressing his nose against a sweet shop window at the moment Star Fraction is recruiting
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:21:00 - [293] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine a civilization of cowards and dock monkeys And while I'm at the terminal...With all due respect to your endurance in this "Repeat ad nauseum, hope for a reaction" campaign of yours, you know what they say about people who try the same exact thing twice and expect a different outcome.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:22:00 - [294] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: Jasmine Constantine a civilization of cowards and dock monkeys And while I'm at the terminal...With all due respect to your endurance in this "Repeat ad nauseum, hope for a reaction" campaign of yours, you know what they say about people who try the same exact thing twice and expect a different outcome. Well not like you have the opportunity to do anything else at the moment is it Star Fraction is recruiting
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:25:00 - [295] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Well not like you have the opportunity to do anything else at the moment is it I see an opportunity to rest my case rising and might just take it.
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:30:00 - [296] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Razor Jaxx It's not our goals you should be concerned with, tyrant, but yours. How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? Or maybe your 'protector' ideal was that of a 'pimp' all along? As I said: we are prepared for a long campaign. You in contrast are already proclaiming victory after a week here. So stick with your delusions of winning a war - we'll talk again in a few months. Or maybe it's all just a failed attempt at 'propaganda' and 'psyops'? To put this to rest, I was the only person to congratulate SF on what, in my opinion, is an obvious military victory. Judging from the killboard records and the way the slavers perform on Galnet I can see as much. However if anybody is prepared for a long campaign and is dedicated to their goals, that would be SF. Mito constellation campaign proved that, and you are not performing any better than State loyalists did.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:31:00 - [297] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite So why are you making that point instead of demonstrating it? There's nothing to demonstrate as far as I'm concerned. So why make the point at all? You do realise you are the first person to actually make that point, I suppose? You sought to dismiss us by pointing out that empire space is generally unsafe for Amarrian paramilitaries in reply to my comrade Ituralde. It was indeed a banal and trite point at the time but I really do not know why you insist on pointing this out. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:38:00 - [298] Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 07/04/2007 22:39:39 Originally by: The Cosmopolite You do realise you are the first person to actually make that point, I suppose? Black market memory implants failing again? Here, let me give you a hand: "In the coming weeks, the Star Fraction is resolved to demonstrate that the very heartlands of the Amarr Empire are unsafe for its supporters" - The Cosmopolite (queue the spin)
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:10:00 - [299] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite You do realise you are the first person to actually make that point, I suppose? Black market memory implants failing again? Here, let me give you a hand: "In the coming weeks, the Star Fraction is resolved to demonstrate that the very heartlands of the Amarr Empire are unsafe for its supporters" - The Cosmopolite (queue the spin) I have no need of spin. I knew quite well you would attempt to quote the original post. (However, others should note that the paramilitary is trying to cast any reply I make as 'spin' ahead of me actually replying.) Here is your remark as to the banality of the point in context: Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite I think is rather banal and trite as points go, personally. It's right up there with space not being entirely safe for a corporation with active wars. Here is your point, the first time someone makes this point, in context: Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: Ituralde Its your choice to pretend a force that is actively at war with you and makes you unable to travel freely throughout the empire is insignificant. Empire space not being safe for pilots of Amarrian Paramilitaries is the status quo and hardly news. Here is the full sentence from the war declaration announcement (note once more that a paramilitary has quoted out of context): Originally by: War Declaration In the coming weeks, the Star Fraction is resolved to demonstrate that the very heartlands of the Amarr Empire are unsafe for its supporters and that we û anarchists, rebels, terrorists and outlaws that we may be û can and will operate against loyalist forces in the capital of the Empire and throughout the surrounding systems, constellations and regions. The statement in the War Declaration was a statement of resolve and our will to demonstrate it on a continuing basis. It was not making the point you made. So, no spin needed, we didn't make the point you described, rightly, as banal and trite, whereas you did. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:16:00 - [300] I still fail to see how being determined to demonstrate something that's common knowledge isn't banal and trite, regardless of rhetorics.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:17:00 - [301] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad I still fail to see how being determined to demonstrate something that's common knowledge isn't banal and trite, regardless of rhetorics. By the demonstration being part of the reason that it is so. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:24:00 - [302] Originally by: The Cosmopolite By the demonstration being part of the reason that it is so. Well it's not.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:29:00 - [303] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite By the demonstration being part of the reason that it is so. Well it's not. Does that apply to the other active wars? Are you now rendering your remark meaningless as well as banal? The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:32:00 - [304] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Does that apply to the other active wars? No, it doesn't.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:34:00 - [305] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite Does that apply to the other active wars? No, it doesn't. So of all the active wars the only one that does not contribute to the fact that space is not entirely safe for Amarrian paramilitaries is the one that has, in the last week, resulted in the most losses? Interesting logic. Complete nonsense but interesting as an example of how the paramilitary mind works. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:41:00 - [306] Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 07/04/2007 23:39:04 Originally by: The Cosmopolite So of all the active wars the only one that does not contribute to the fact that space is not entirely safe for Amarrian paramilitaries is the one that has, in the last week, resulted in the most losses? I didn't say it doesn't contribute to the fact, I said that it's not the reason for it but is desperately trying to be, which coupled with the contribution for contribution's sake makes it banal and trite.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:48:00 - [307] Quote: It's not our goals you should be concerned with, tyrant, but yours. How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? Well at least we now have one clear cut war objective for the Star Fractions latest campaign! Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:49:00 - [308] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite So of all the active wars the only one that does not contribute to the fact that space is not entirely safe for Amarrian paramilitaries is the one that has, in the last week, resulted in the most losses? I didn't say it doesn't contribute to the fact, I said that it's not the reason for it but is desperately trying to be, which coupled with the contribution for contribution's sake makes it banal and trite. Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite By the demonstration being part of the reason that it is so. Well it's not. You clearly say here that the war it is not part of the reason. Which is to say that, in terms, you said it does not contribute to the fact that Amarrian paramilitaries are not safe in space. We are not claiming to be the sole reason by any means and give all good wishes to anyone who is at war with you and being part of the reason that you are not safe. As for why we fight you, it is not for the sake of it but because you support an imperial system that we have consistently opposed for many, many years. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:53:00 - [309] Originally by: The Cosmopolite You clearly say here that the war it is not part of the reason. Which is to say that, in terms, you said it does not contribute to the fact that Amarrian paramilitaries are not safe in space. Daytime related comprehension issues. It's a petty, meaningless brawl in my eyes, is that ok?
Razor Jaxx Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.08 11:00:00 - [310] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: It's not our goals you should be concerned with, tyrant, but yours. How long are you going to sit idly, and passively watch us turn your crown-jewel of a system into a gigantic brothel? Well at least we now have one clear cut war objective for the Star Fractions latest campaign! Archbishop Not as much an objective as a side occupation while we eagerly await your presence. One must find these young, vain amarrian civilian beauties of noble origins a new, more befitting occupation, right?
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.08 11:10:00 - [311] Edited by: Octavinus Augustus on 08/04/2007 11:06:11 Originally by: The Cosmopolite As for why we fight you, it is not for the sake of it but because you support an imperial system that we have consistently opposed for many, many years. Of course, your allies in Bloodveil does not support any such imperial system. Consistency, Mr Cosmopolite - are you familiar with the term? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.08 12:13:00 - [312] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Of course, your allies in Bloodveil does not support any such imperial system. Consistency, Mr Cosmopolite - are you familiar with the term? You cannot talk your way out of this war and the sooner you start to realise that the more esteem and dignity will surround the circumstances of your death. At the moment you are pretty much beneath contempt, for having been convincingly trounced in debate on this very issue by those of SF who deign to "educate" you while refusing adamantly to fight the war in space (since you personally have paid precisely no role in the conflict this thread was placed to declare) you occupy the role of a galnet voice without substance. Star Fraction is recruiting
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.08 15:57:00 - [313] Edited by: Octavinus Augustus on 08/04/2007 15:55:18 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine You cannot talk your way out of this war Where in the name of all that is holy did you get that from my post? Originally by: Jasmine Constantine At the moment you are pretty much beneath contempt, for having been convincingly trounced in debate on this very issue by those of SF who deign to "educate" you Well your contributions certainly haven't helped in this regard - and as it's actually the opposite that has taken place, I assume you have moved back to your personal "don't read the posts, just start smacktalking" policy again. I do notice however, that you seem to like my "beneath contempt" statement of another post since you are quick to copy it. Originally by: Jasmine Constantine ...you occupy the role of a galnet voice without substance. For the umpteenth time your actions contradict your words, Jasmine. You have consistently answered to any post I've made - although with little intellect and no insight. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.08 16:07:00 - [314] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Edited by: Octavinus Augustus on 08/04/2007 15:55:18 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine You cannot talk your way out of this war Where in the name of all that is holy did you get that from my post? Because for the last week I have never seen you in space and you appear in none of our records of kills or losses and you exist merely as a talking head on galnet. Since all you can do is talk its a fair assumption you are trying to talk your way out of this war. Star Fraction is recruiting
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.08 16:42:00 - [315] On the one hand you say it is all fine and dandy that people like Revan just talk on these threads but on the other hand you want people to shut up as they are not on your killrecords? You are getting more inconsistant daily, and then you wonder why people don't take you serious. You try to spin things however it befits you at any given moment. Don't be surprised when you are called out for it. I suggest you make up you mind about what is acceptable practice to you and then try to stick to it yourself unless you aim to rename your organization to Hypcorite Fraction finally. And before you fume and spray spittle again - we bought a ticket, so according to your logic in regards to Garreck I am allowed to speak up. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.08 17:04:00 - [316] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: The Cosmopolite As for why we fight you, it is not for the sake of it but because you support an imperial system that we have consistently opposed for many, many years. Of course, your allies in Bloodveil does not support any such imperial system. Consistency, Mr Cosmopolite - are you familiar with the term? The Star Fraction does not consider the Bloodveil an ideological threat, have some overlapping interests with them, and they certainly, as you and others have been at pains to point out, do not support such an imperial system as you support. As for my personal familiarity with the term 'consistency', I can only say that I consider myself to be consistent in my beliefs and in living according to them. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.08 17:20:00 - [317] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Because for the last week I have never seen you in space and you appear in none of our records of kills or losses and you exist merely as a talking head on galnet. Since all you can do is talk its a fair assumption you are trying to talk your way out of this war. As usual, little Jasmine, your assumptions are as flawed as your sense of logic. If you actually bothered to read the posts I've made on the topic, you'd see that I have consistently said that we shall deal with you when we see the time as right. You'd also find that I have never tried to talk my way out of this war. But perhaps the concept of actually reading up on a topic before commenting on it is alien to you? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Bacchanalian Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.08 18:17:00 - [318] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Because for the last week I have never seen you in space and you appear in none of our records of kills or losses and you exist merely as a talking head on galnet. Since all you can do is talk its a fair assumption you are trying to talk your way out of this war. As usual, little Jasmine, your assumptions are as flawed as your sense of logic. If you actually bothered to read the posts I've made on the topic, you'd see that I have consistently said that we shall deal with you when we see the time as right. You'd also find that I have never tried to talk my way out of this war. But perhaps the concept of actually reading up on a topic before commenting on it is alien to you? There's something about killing loudmouthed cowards that is akin to kicking a puppy. Kicking an annoying, yapping, worthless cur of a dog. I look forward to punting this one. Star Fraction is recruiting, join the revolution!
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.08 22:10:00 - [319] Originally by: Bacchanalian There's something about killing loudmouthed cowards that is akin to kicking a puppy........ I look forward to punting this one. It has, unfortunately, become an all too rare experience to see a post from our enemies with some wit, humour and intelligence in it. This is one of those occurences. It is only fair that I applaud you Mr Bacchanalian for making it. If Star Fraction intends to see this war through as you claim you will, I'm sure you'll get your chance some day. Whether you'll be facing a poodle (whatever that may be) or an Amarr slave hound remain to be seen. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.08 22:27:00 - [320] There will be slaver hounds and poodles, yes. I think you've made it very clear which you are. No need to worry, the slaver hounds can be punted as well. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 00:00:00 - [321] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus we shall deal with you when we see the time as right. You'd also find that I have never tried to talk my way out of this war. Quite a sum of people bearing the colors of PIE, indeed including it's CEO, seem to consider the time being right somewhere around now. To my knowledge, you are the only person of PIE that persists in being a loudmouth with no activity in space. Even Archbishop has put some efforts in the battles, but you have not. So whatever you feel like saying about you and yours dealing with us when you so choose, fact remains that the others are seeking to deal with us now while you only idle in a station, content to see your brothers and sisters in arms sacrifice life, crew and ships to repel us without you.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 06:50:00 - [322] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 09/04/2007 06:46:58 We had nothing more important to do other than fight you today, so we fought you. It really is that simple, that doesn't change the fact that you are one of the least important of our enemies, though we will gladly kill you when we have nothing more important to deal with. As for your current attempt to avoid answering the points leveled, Octavinus was involved in todays action to a more than satisfactory degree. That you did not see him directly is your problem and by no means due to cowardice. Of course, as you are one of Revan's allies, it bears repeating that the idea that someone must be active in a war to make an argument about said war is at best a rather hypocritical comment. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 07:53:00 - [323] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko To my knowledge, you are the only person of PIE that persists in being a loudmouth with no activity in space. Even Archbishop has put some efforts in the battles, but you have not. This open admittance from a Star Fraction member that "nearly all PIE members have put effort into battles with the SF" should stop and further arguments and insults from other SF members about PIE staying docked and being unwilling to fight. To my knowledge that is the only thing point still being actively argued about here, so I propose to end this particular thread here. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:05:00 - [324] Very well, Gaven, we of course do not determine your priorities. Your priorities are not our concern. The fact of the matter is, we are here to make Amarr and the surrounding area unsafe for you, and so long as you demonstrate that by hiding, you play into our hands. By all means, hide from battle, you make our lives far easier. See, Gaven, we needn't fight you at all if your own cowardice does our job for us. Keep inventing things to keep yourself occupied though, if you keep at it you might be able to convince someone that you have done something to forward your mysterious agenda. After all, what purpose do 'Praetorians' have that can't even freely travel in and around their own capitol? If you can accomplish your goals in your current condition, by all means go ahead, because it's quite clear they are altogether meaningless if they are achievable in such a pathetic state. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:06:00 - [325] Originally by: Merdaneth This open admittance from a Star Fraction member that "nearly all PIE members have put effort into battles with the SF" should stop and further arguments and insults from other SF members about PIE staying docked and being unwilling to fight. To my knowledge that is the only thing point still being actively argued about here, so I propose to end this particular thread here. Hardly, Merdaneth. It means that most all of the rest of your pilots managed to get a few shots off on the record. Twisting words is pathetic when the truth does not support them by any stretch of the imagination. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:45:00 - [326] Originally by: Ituralde The fact of the matter is, we are here to make Amarr and the surrounding area unsafe for you, and so long as you demonstrate that by hiding, you play into our hands. By all means, hide from battle, you make our lives far easier. See, Gaven, we needn't fight you at all if your own cowardice does our job for us. Originally by: Ituralde Considering the recent upsurge in using plain T1 fittings and the deployment of legions of T1 cruisers by the Amarrian loyalists. So in order to clarify, we hide from battle while fielding legions of T1 cruisers. Perhaps you should consider coordinating your IGS postings somewhat. Originally by: Ituralde Twisting words is pathetic when the truth does not support them by any stretch of the imagination. I couldn't agree more. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.09 10:34:00 - [327] Originally by: Ituralde After all, what purpose do 'Praetorians' have that can't even freely travel in and around their own capitol? If you can accomplish your goals in your current condition, by all means go ahead, because it's quite clear they are altogether meaningless if they are achievable in such a pathetic state. You didn't read about Archbishop's little journey in a Bestower or the recent GalNet news about the Speakers of Truth then it seems. Why you think you accomplish anything by sitting idly in one system in force is beyond me, but you surely have your reasons. The only reasoning I can come up with though is that you are too afraid to travel abroad and stick together in a lump to beat your chests and tell each other stories about how you are winning and how PIE is disintegrating already. Matter of fact is that the impact you have on day to day dealings and operations is exactly nil. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:07:00 - [328] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus So in order to clarify, we hide from battle while fielding legions of T1 cruisers. Perhaps you should consider coordinating your IGS postings somewhat. PIE typically hide from battle while AM field legions of tech1 cruisers would be more accurate to say. Star Fraction is recruiting
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:09:00 - [329] Originally by: Tharrn Matter of fact is that the impact you have on day to day dealings and operations is exactly nil. Tell that to Lallara Zhuul's new clone! Star Fraction is recruiting
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:17:00 - [330] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Tharrn Matter of fact is that the impact you have on day to day dealings and operations is exactly nil. Tell that to Lallara Zhuul's new clone! Indeed, I had fun pinning her down while the rest of their forces ran from us in fear of their lives .
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:23:00 - [331] This is disappointing. I thought it was Star Fraction that takes pride in letting their guns do the talking. Why try so hard to prove that the Amarr home systems aren't safe for the Amarr paramilitaries any longer? Or did something change about 'gunboat diplomacy'? I really ought to follow up on the memos. Please continue posting accurate statistics, and let the spectator judge for himself. The spin induces headaches. ---------------
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:24:00 - [332] Originally by: Davlos This is disappointing. I thought it was Star Fraction that takes pride in letting their guns do the talking. Why try so hard to prove that the Amarr home systems aren't safe for the Amarr paramilitaries any longer? Or did something change about 'gunboat diplomacy'? I really ought to follow up on the memos. Please continue posting accurate statistics, and let the spectator judge for himself. The spin induces headaches. Later on today we release the first War Diary and combat video review. Then I guess you see for yourself. Star Fraction is recruiting
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:29:00 - [333] I hope that you, Madam Constantine, realize that War Diaries and combat recordings are spin as well. I'm quite satisfied enough with crunching the numbers. Thank you however for the consideration of informing me of the upcoming features. It's far more entertaining than the GalFed reality holovids that I've been watching to amuse myself with. ---------------
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:32:00 - [334] Originally by: Davlos I hope that you, Madam Constantine, realize that War Diaries and combat recordings are spin as well. I'm quite satisfied enough with crunching the numbers. Thank you however for the consideration of informing me of the upcoming features. It's far more entertaining than the GalFed reality holovids that I've been watching to amuse myself with. I think you know where you can find the raw data if you want an upcoming preview Davlos, its not a difficult search. Star Fraction is recruiting
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:34:00 - [335] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine PIE typically hide from battle while AM field legions of tech1 cruisers would be more accurate to say. First, I must regrettably correct myself. I just noticed that in my post above I quoted Ituralde for speaking about Amarr Loyalists fielding T1 cruisers. The actual post was made by Atandros. As for the post by Atandros it was made to indicate that I apparently didn't contibute much in way of financing our war effort as you had lately been killing only T1 cruisers (the point made by Atandros). Reading this reply consequently makes it look as if I'm now financing the warefforts of AM. I'm not. AM are quite capable in their own right and hardly need my financial aid. As for PIE hiding - Read the news, Read Archbishops posts and look to your own kill and deathboards. If you wish to accuse me of being a coward that is your business, but to accuse PIE as a whole for such a thing is plain lunacy. But I must congatulate you Jasmine. For the first time in a very long time you've actually managed to put up an argument without simply smacking your ear off. I hope this is the beginning of a new style. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:17:00 - [336] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Indeed, I had fun pinning her down while the rest of their forces ran from us in fear of their lives . Oh, we can repeat last nights performance any time: Go in with a mostly T1 fleet of equal size, beat the SF HAC fleet into pulp and recover to leave you to your idling in Amarr again. The Amarr forces held the field while you huddled up in the Emperor station rubbing your sore bums. Your killboard tells the real story of the night: you lost the engagement, and no amount of spinning will change that. And we did it all without ever undocking our horde of T1 cruisers! Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:44:00 - [337] Edited by: Octavinus Augustus on 09/04/2007 12:40:45 Originally by: Tharrn And we did it all without ever undocking our horde of T1 cruisers! Tharrn, be nice. It was a legion, not a horde Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:45:00 - [338] Originally by: Tharrn Oh, we can repeat last nights performance any time: See you again tonight. If thats what you call a "victory" this is going to be a hilarious war. Star Fraction is recruiting
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:48:00 - [339] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Davlos I hope that you, Madam Constantine, realize that War Diaries and combat recordings are spin as well. I'm quite satisfied enough with crunching the numbers. Thank you however for the consideration of informing me of the upcoming features. It's far more entertaining than the GalFed reality holovids that I've been watching to amuse myself with. I think you know where you can find the raw data if you want an upcoming preview Davlos, its not a difficult search. Been doing so for about a week. Some ship fittings gave me a chuckle or two - no names mentioned. ---------------
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:08:00 - [340] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine See you again tonight. If thats what you call a "victory" this is going to be a hilarious war. It is already a hillarious war you will win on neither the IGS nor in space. And we come and go as we please, not as you please, if you haven't noticed yet. So savour your dellusions of 'winning' while they last. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Atandros Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:21:00 - [341] Originally by: Tharrn Oh, we can repeat last nights performance any time: Go in with a mostly T1 fleet of equal size, beat the SF HAC fleet into pulp and recover to leave you to your idling in Amarr again. The Amarr forces held the field while you huddled up in the Emperor station rubbing your sore bums. Your killboard tells the real story of the night: you lost the engagement, and no amount of spinning will change that. And we did it all without ever undocking our horde of T1 cruisers! And you accuse us of spin? You went in with a battleship-heavy fleet that outnumbered our T2 cruiser- and T2 frigate-heavy force, took a total of 8 battleship losses, 1 inty loss and a handful of pod losses for the kills you got on us, and held the field for a few minutes at most before an SF battleship fleet undocked and proceeded to chase you some half a dozen jumps out of Amarr, blowing up Lallara's and Gaven's battleships in the process. All the forces involved and losses taken are a matter of public record, viewable on our killboard. And, finally, the declaration of economic victory implicit in your crowing about "beating the SF HAC fleet into a pulp" is a bit hollow if you remember that SF builds all of the T2 ship types and many of the T2 module types lost in that engagement for its members at construction price. -------
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:27:00 - [342] Ah, better don't get into an economic debatte like that. It makes you look as stupid as people who claim 'minerals I mine myself are free minerals'. Our fleet held the field and recovered - look up the term if you are unfamiliar with it. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:34:00 - [343] Originally by: Tharrn Ah, better don't get into an economic debatte like that. It makes you look as stupid as people who claim 'minerals I mine myself are free minerals'. Our fleet held the field and recovered - look up the term if you are unfamiliar with it. Suffice to say the truth of the engagement will be told in the war diary. And if you don't like what is going to be written there I would advise you to get writing and prepare your own. Star Fraction is recruiting
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:40:00 - [344] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Suffice to say the truth of the engagement will be told in the war diary. And if you don't like what is going to be written there I would advise you to get writing and prepare your own. I can understand how you must believe this. After all, Star Fraction pilots are known for their ability to present an unbiased assesment of a given situation. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:44:00 - [345] Quote: Suffice to say the truth of the engagement will be told in the war diary. And if you don't like what is going to be written there I would advise you to get writing and prepare your own. How's that brothel war objective coming along? Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:47:00 - [346] I would have thought you nationalists knew by now we weren't writing for your benefit. What you think means precisely nothing. Star Fraction is recruiting
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:58:00 - [347] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Suffice to say the truth of the engagement will be told in the war diary. And if you don't like what is going to be written there I would advise you to get writing and prepare your own. 'The truth' an SF propganda material don't mix well - the rule of thumb seems to be that 50% truth is the highest you'll ever reach. Thus I am waiting for a good laugh with baited breath. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Atandros Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:46:00 - [348] Originally by: Tharrn Ah, better don't get into an economic debatte like that. It makes you look as stupid as people who claim 'minerals I mine myself are free minerals'. Actually, making the statement above is quite stupid, because applying your example as an analogy for the situation at hand rests on assumptions pulled out of thin air. No-one is claiming we didn't forsake the ISK we could have made by selling those wares on the market, but the value of that profit is a far lesser value than deploying the ships and modules in combat is since they make up a minuscule portion of our factories' output. Matters of economics aside, we hope that the golden fleet has been suitably reinvigorated by what they consider their victory of yesterday, and will make attempts to score further victories against us in that vein. We welcome this with open arms. -------
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:30:00 - [349] Nothing much has changed, I see... ----------------------------------------------
Razor Jaxx Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:53:00 - [350] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: Suffice to say the truth of the engagement will be told in the war diary. And if you don't like what is going to be written there I would advise you to get writing and prepare your own. How's that brothel war objective coming along? Archbishop You insist on calling my personal pet project a war objective, I see. I assure you that you need not use false pretenses to inquire about our services, however. We assure utmost discretion to our clients of all creeds and races, be they freedom fighters from the outskirts of Molden Heath or senile servants of the church of Amarr. But to answer your initial inquiry, profits have been noticeably on the rise ever since we secured the employment of a 'Domina Augustus' - by her own account the younger sibling of a proeminent praetorian. Who, however, is anybody's guess, as the fair young lady steadfastly refuses to divulge any further information.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 09:54:00 - [351] Originally by: Tharrn Ah, better don't get into an economic debatte like that. It makes you look as stupid as people who claim 'minerals I mine myself are free minerals'. Our fleet held the field and recovered - look up the term if you are unfamiliar with it. Oh please, lets get into this discussion. I want to hear you make a fool of yourself throwing around those magic words you don't really understand and only picked up in a discussion with someone that sounded like they knew what they were talking about down the pub, like "opportunity cost". Suffice to say, it'll be entertaining to hear you make a fool of yourself yet again -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.11 12:01:00 - [352] We have both said our share and I'll leave it to the esteemed reader to make up his mind about who is the fool himself - in contrast to the Hypocrite Fiction I don't have to hammer home my 'arguments' by having them repeated all over by fellow alliance members. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 12:09:00 - [353] Originally by: Tharrn We have both said our share and I'll leave it to the esteemed reader to make up his mind about who is the fool himself - in contrast to the Hypocrite Fiction I don't have to hammer home my 'arguments' by having them repeated all over by fellow alliance members. No guts as a pilot. No guts as an armchair economist -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 12:49:00 - [354] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Originally by: Tharrn We have both said our share and I'll leave it to the esteemed reader to make up his mind about who is the fool himself - in contrast to the Hypocrite Fiction I don't have to hammer home my 'arguments' by having them repeated all over by fellow alliance members. No guts as a pilot. No guts as an armchair economist You don't have guts. You have a bile duct. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.11 12:53:00 - [355] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Originally by: Tharrn We have both said our share and I'll leave it to the esteemed reader to make up his mind about who is the fool himself - in contrast to the Hypocrite Fiction I don't have to hammer home my 'arguments' by having them repeated all over by fellow alliance members. No guts as a pilot. No guts as an armchair economist Cheap words, perhaps they are a reflection of your own skill in the face of those with considerably more experience. It is no matter, whatever words are said we shall see what happens on the field. I am intrigued as to what the true damage is of this conflict, whether there is any true gain or whether indeed this is simply a war of publicity. What exactly has been achieved? Serve the Emperor Above all Others
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:03:00 - [356] Originally by: Rodj Blake You don't have guts. You have a bile duct. Yeah?!!! I skipped biology for economics... Well, at least I learnt something out of this war -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:04:00 - [357] Mr Sable, I remember a time only a few days ago when you were able to present a logical argument to your case - I respect you for that ability. By now however, you are sliding dangerously into the usual SF habit of posting simply unfounded smack. I would suggest that you model your postings more along the lines of Mr Cosmopolite. At least he does command quite a lot of respect for his ability and willingness to argue his views (such as they are) using logic and reason. The words of a respected adversary does weigh a lot heavier than the words of a simple smackartist. If you wish for a serious debate regarding the economics behind this war, the value of loss statistics or any other topic really, I'd suggest you do as Mr Cosmopolite: Originally by: The Cosmopolite Discussion of the figures on that basis is to be expected and quite welcome. If you are content to degrade any discussion to a competition of who can produce the more pointless smack, then by all means continue down the slide you are on. I'm certain that the perseverance of certain SF pilots makes your alliance the favourite in such contests - with or without your involvement. So the question is simply this: What standard will you set for yourself? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:08:00 - [358] In all honesty, it all depends on the mood you catch me in... what I've taken recently... that sort of thing. I have noticed a disturbing trend showing that my mood can be effected by the tone I'm addressed in. Sad that really. Soooo economics. Who's in? -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:26:00 - [359] Where is the point in presenting logic and reason to people who themselves have no care for either? From the very inception of this conflict you have done your best to twist and subvert the simple facts - those being that you have shown no skill, no honour and no courage. Your best so far is a lucky draw; the entire remainder consists of running, docking and being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to your own disorganisation and because you do not dare to stand and fight. All you can muster in opposition is a small brigade of semi-accomplished liars on these forums. And you talk about standards?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:37:00 - [360] Originally by: Heero Yuy Where is the point in presenting logic and reason to people who themselves have no care for either? From the very inception of this conflict you have done your best to twist and subvert the simple facts - those being that you have shown no skill, no honour and no courage. Your best so far is a lucky draw; the entire remainder consists of running, docking and being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to your own disorganisation and because you do not dare to stand and fight. All you can muster in opposition is a small brigade of semi-accomplished liars on these forums. And you talk about standards? If what you're saying is true, PIE will be dead within two weeks. I shall remind you of your words in a fortnight. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:43:00 - [361] Edited by: Kallanagh Tellen on 11/04/2007 13:40:01 Two weeks? Why do I get the feeling I've heard similar engagements MANY times over the years. I very much doubt thet PIE will scatter under this current threat, indeed any other. Edit: damned spelling Serve the Emperor Above all Others
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:49:00 - [362] before you boys and girls get too excited, just remember it was Rodj that came up with the 2 weeks thing. Setting things up, claiming someone else said them, then proving them wrong and then crowing about how good you are has got to be low, even for you guys (and yes, I know I say this in spite of all available evidence - but I do live in hope). -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:52:00 - [363] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Edited by: Kallanagh Tellen on 11/04/2007 13:40:01 Two weeks? Why do I get the feeling I've heard similar engagements MANY times over the years. I very much doubt thet PIE will scatter under this current threat, indeed any other. Edit: damned spelling Indeed not. SF are merely the latest in a long line of enemies to claim that PIE was all but finished. Many of those enemies are now no more, while PIE is still around. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:54:00 - [364] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 11/04/2007 13:51:08 Originally by: Sable Schroedinger before you boys and girls get too excited, just remember it was Rodj that came up with the 2 weeks thing. Setting things up, claiming someone else said them, then proving them wrong and then crowing about how good you are has got to be low, even for you guys (and yes, I know I say this in spite of all available evidence - but I do live in hope). Oh come on now. Are you saying that SF can't destroy an enemy with no skill, no courage, and no honour within two weeks? An enemy that gets swiftly annihilated every time they undock? Or could it be that you know that PIE is actually doing a lot better than your Stir Fiction propagandists would have us all believe? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:57:00 - [365] Originally by: Heero Yuy Where is the point in presenting logic and reason to people who themselves have no care for either? From the very inception of this conflict you have done your best to twist and subvert the simple facts - those being that you have shown no skill, no honour and no courage. Your best so far is a lucky draw; the entire remainder consists of running, docking and being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to your own disorganisation and because you do not dare to stand and fight. All you can muster in opposition is a small brigade of semi-accomplished liars on these forums. And you talk about standards? The leadership of the Amarr Loyalist organisations has formulated a strategy for this war as well as the many other wars we are currently involved in. I'm sure Star Fraction leadership has done the same for you. To be absolutely frank about it, the quality of said strategies are not for you to decide - nor me for that matter. The value of said strategies will actually not be decided by anyone. It will not even be decided on the battlefield. History is full of conflicts where one side might have lost every major battle but still won the war. Consequently, the value of the strategies used by either our sides will not be seen until the smoke clears. If you have achieved what you set out to do when going into this war, you may claim success - according to your objectives. We may do the same according to ours. We might even find ourselves in a position where we may both claim victory. When reviewing those objectives publicly stated by both sides, I find it very likely that we shall. So you see, in the end your opininon on the matter of the strategies used is irrelevant - and so is the opinion of everyone else, including myself. To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 13:59:00 - [366] Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 13:55:59 Originally by: Rodj Blake Oh come on now. Are you saying that SF can't destroy an enemy with no skill, no courage, and no honour within two weeks? An enemy that gets swiftly annihilated every time they undock? Or could it be that you know that PIE is actually doing a lot better than your Stir Fiction propagandists would have us all believe? No, it can't be. However, I'm perfectly sure that PIE will still be around in 2 weeks, simply because your policy is not to engage us unless you have overwhelming superiority in numbers. Also, of course you are able to undock freely and without risk if you so choose. You can do so almost anywhere in the known universe in fact, except, that is, in and around your capital.....
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:02:00 - [367] I think that PIE has proven it has great patience over the years. With enough patience, a man can sit safely in station for ever. It served as KD and CYI's battle tactic for the period of their wars. It destroyed KD and whilst CYI "live", that life is nothing more than a joke. You're laying a rather blatant and obvious trap Mr B. I expected better of you. Now, what it'll come down to at the end of the day is what do people define as "live" as far as PIE is concerned. And i think thats where all the true fighting will happen - because if the past week is anything to go by, it sure as hell won't happen in space. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:03:00 - [368] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so. But then we have never claimed to be winning. In fact, it is patently impossible to win against an enemy who lacks the courage to actively engage. Which you do.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:25:00 - [369] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger before you boys and girls get too excited, just remember it was Rodj that came up with the 2 weeks thing. Setting things up, claiming someone else said them, then proving them wrong and then crowing about how good you are has got to be low, even for you guys (and yes, I know I say this in spite of all available evidence - but I do live in hope). Genius Sable..... Just.. genius. I see I shall have to speak slower in future. Serve the Emperor Above all Others
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:28:00 - [370] Originally by: Heero Yuy Originally by: Octavinus Augustus To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so. But then we have never claimed to be winning. I don't know about you, but where I come from "...being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to... ...disorganisation" is a description of somebody that's losing. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:30:00 - [371] Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:27:02 Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen I see I shall have to speak slower in future. You should undock and fight a bit first, so that you have anything at all to speak about.
Tomahawk Bliss INTAKI UNION The OSS	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:34:00 - [372] that is because propaganda sounds better when you lace it with poetic prose and metaphor. it does have a psychological effect of people, whether we want to admit it or not. When a thing is said enough time, at least some of it bleeds through as truth to our minds. that is why all this effort is spent on publicizing the war. We all know it, but that doesn't really change the effect post after post of the same supposition can have. Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:36:00 - [373] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Heero Yuy Originally by: Octavinus Augustus To continously state "We are winning! You are losing!" will in the end prove nothing other than you are in need of convincing yourself it is so. But then we have never claimed to be winning. I don't know about you, but where I come from "...being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to... ...disorganisation" is a description of somebody that's losing. "Losing" and "lost" are entirely different things and can be separated by more than a mere 2 weeks. Not that it matters, we have patience and resolves to at least match PIE. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:36:00 - [374] Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:33:01 Originally by: Rodj Blake I don't know about you, but where I come from "...being swiftly and decisively annihilated singly or in groups due to... ...disorganisation" is a description of somebody that's losing. Now now, don't be pathetic. This is of course exactly the kind of word-twisting you think, erroneously, that you're so good at. Even the most casual reader will instantly realise that there is a difference between winning the battles and winning the war, particularly in this war where the battles are few and far between due to your refusal to engage. You frankly do yourself and your cause no favours whatsoever by by being so obvious and so inept.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:38:00 - [375] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss that is because propaganda sounds better when you lace it with poetic prose and metaphor. it does have a psychological effect of people, whether we want to admit it or not. When a thing is said enough time, at least some of it bleeds through as truth to our minds. that is why all this effort is spent on publicizing the war. We all know it, but that doesn't really change the effect post after post of the same supposition can have. Indeed, I would be much happier if the people who seem so intent on flapping their gums would involve themselves directly in the conflict in space instead of insisting on continued excrement flinging on galnet.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:43:00 - [376] Originally by: Heero Yuy Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:27:02 Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen I see I shall have to speak slower in future. You should undock and fight a bit first, so that you have anything at all to speak about. All in good time my vocal little friend. Serve the Emperor Above all Others
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:45:00 - [377] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 11/04/2007 14:42:51 So we lack the courage to engage... But yet we fought a battle in which the total losses on both sides numbered in the tens of thousands of crew on both sides in which Amarr recovered the bulk of the casualties and equipment... a grand total of three days ago. Or should courage to engage in your vocabulary read as "willingness to commit suicide." We will and have engaged your forces, we will lose some and we will win some. When you leave Amarr haveing realised the futility of your cause, we will still be there, and you will have never stopped takeing casualties. The only person I see who lacks courage to engage is your "ally" of the many mercenaries. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:46:00 - [378] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Originally by: Heero Yuy Edited by: Heero Yuy on 11/04/2007 14:27:02 Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen I see I shall have to speak slower in future. You should undock and fight a bit first, so that you have anything at all to speak about. All in good time my vocal little friend. you wardecc'd 10 days ago, how long do you need?!!! or was it an unfortunate case of ôpremature declarationö? -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:50:00 - [379] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri So we lack the courage to engage... But yet we fought a battle in which the total losses on both sides numbered in the tens of thousands of crew on both sides in which Amarr recovered the bulk of the casualties and equipment... a grand total of three days ago. Or should courage to engage in your vocabulary read as "willingness to commit suicide." The only person I see who lacks courage to engage is your "ally" of the many mercenaries. We are willing to die for our cause, its sad to see you don't share an equal commitment to yours. It is also sad to see that your view of war is one engagement in 10 days. You only prove our point, each and every time you cling to that one battle like a drowning man. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:53:00 - [380] I eagerly await your request for Revan to be silent till she actually is involved in conflict in Amarr with something other than her mercenaries, Mr. Sable. Until then, I believe any statements that Amarrians who have not fought you because they had other things to do should probably be kept silent, unless you like confirming to everyone who might read this thread how much of a double standard you hold on such issues. Or is it that you are saying that VV as a whole hasnt fought you? In which case, are you still trying to beat out Revan as CVA court jester with such blatant lies? Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 14:58:00 - [381] I think you'll find it wasn't me that asked anyone to be quiet. Why would I? Its like a comedy club in here. S'ok though, I forgive you. I'm sure all us lesser beings must look the same to you - I'm the skinny albino one by the way. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 15:01:00 - [382] You are an unusually loud braggart, Mr. Sable, I would suggest that your insults require at least some element of truth to them if they are expected to hit a mark. Unless you really are in some sort of competition with Revan, in which case I wish you good luck as you have no chance. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.11 15:02:00 - [383] Such Hypocracy seems to be the way of the fractionist as of late, a shame since there are some of your number who actually portray quite noble qualities. Nevermind perhaps this is a matter for internal discussion to a degree, I believe that this may be an issue of dicipline and as such something for the SF officers to hopefully address. Serve the Emperor Above all Others
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 15:22:00 - [384] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri You are an unusually loud braggart, Mr. Sable, I would suggest that your insults require at least some element of truth to them if they are expected to hit a mark. Unless you really are in some sort of competition with Revan, in which case I wish you good luck as you have no chance. Loud? Me?! Thats a first. I'm usually being shouted at to "speak up" on coms. As for the rest, I'm afraid, again, you've missed the mark. A quick review of previous posts above - and it was really quick, so I'm not going to claim too much - suggests in one part you've confused me with a woman (not the first time I admit. Some people really do have something against Intaki) and in the second case a Minmatar. Now THAT is a first! As for your friends comments about discipline... I mean, really! Don't have a go at us in one breath about being unruly anarchists and in the next talk about "internal discipline". And I have no interest in Reven's job at all. ...Jade's not my type -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.11 15:30:00 - [385] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 11/04/2007 14:42:51 So we lack the courage to engage... That's about the size of it, yes. Quote: But yet we fought a battle in which the total losses on both sides numbered in the tens of thousands of crew on both sides in which Amarr recovered the bulk of the casualties and equipment... a grand total of three days ago. So you have mustered a little courage a grand total of...1 time. Bravo! Quote: Or should courage to engage in your vocabulary read as "willingness to commit suicide." Not at all, you should bring as many ships as you want and feel comfortable with. It makes no difference to us; it is not as if fighting outnumbered is new to the Fraction. Just come, won't ya?? Quote: We will and have engaged your forces Yeah. Once. Quote: we will lose some You will. Quote: we will win some You might. Then again, you might not. Quote: When you leave Amarr haveing realised the futility of your cause, we will still be there, and you will have never stopped takeing casualties. As if taking casualties is of any concern. You're the ones doing your level best to avoid any such, not us. Quote: The only person I see who lacks courage to engage is your "ally" of the many mercenaries. What they do or don't do is of no concern whatsoever to us.
Kremnican Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 12:09:00 - [386] I always wondered... Doesn't Pax Amarria contain stations schematics? PIE & Co seems to be bit "lost", missing the corridors leading to the docking ports. I have to admit that my wallet is hurt by this war. I'm spending money on girls, drinks and holoreels just to kill the boredom (will you get a killmail for it?).
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.12 12:19:00 - [387] Originally by: Kremnican I always wondered... Doesn't Pax Amarria contain stations schematics? PIE & Co seems to be bit "lost", missing the corridors leading to the docking ports. Why would a treatise on Amarrian foreign policy under Heideran VII contain station schematics? I knew that some Stir Fiction members had trouble with their reading comprehension, but I must confess that even I'm amazed that they would be confused by the diagrams as well. Quote: I have to admit that my wallet is hurt by this war. I'm spending money on girls, drinks and holoreels just to kill the boredom (will you get a killmail for it?). Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 12:23:00 - [388] Originally by: Rodj Blake Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet. Never let a drunken scout something something... Hey are those my shoes? Pretty sure there was no waltzing, I'd never miss a good dance.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.12 12:51:00 - [389] Quote: Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet. I concur with that assumption Admiral Blake. These misfits of anarchy were in fact planning their next "attack" on our holy Empire itself. Read this excerpt from Shastal yesterday to see their "evil plan" for our Empire [ 2007.04.11 20:09:26 ] Scorpio Dantes > City of God, huh? I could probably sell some holoreels there [ 2007.04.11 20:09:37 ] Madelchai > A fine idea! [ 2007.04.11 20:09:41 ] Archbishop > But Amarr shone through and carried the day. Our god did not abandon us. Rather he allowed us sinners to redeem ourselves. [ 2007.04.11 20:09:43 ] Devilish Ledoux > God loves nudie pics, I'm sure [ 2007.04.11 20:09:57 ] Maddock Krug > /emote chuckles [ 2007.04.11 20:09:58 ] Madelchai > He'd not have made us look so good naked if not, I'd think. [ 2007.04.11 20:10:09 ] Scorpio Dantes > Nudie pics? NUDIE PICS? My films are much more than mere smut. [ 2007.04.11 20:10:18 ] Archbishop > But sin is always with us [ 2007.04.11 20:10:24 ] Madelchai > Do tell us more, Mr. Dantes! [ 2007.04.11 20:10:26 ] Archbishop > The danger is always present if we are not on guard. [ 2007.04.11 20:10:32 ] Scorpio Dantes > Sin! Now this sermon is getting interesting! I heard they were fitting a rusty bestower as we speak! Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 14:35:00 - [390] Hate to tell you this, Archie, but the House of Myriad Sweaty Distractions doesn't sell to religious nuts. Which is a shame, since you look like you could use a good, sweaty distraction. _
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 15:52:00 - [391] Originally by: Rodj Blake when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet. I'm sorry, I'll just remind you: We have declared war on you. If you want to parade the transit of someone we're not even at war with while your own crew docks up to reduce casualties... Then you are even more confused than usual so I'd have to ask: are you the employer of that crew buying drop from me the other day? They forgot their change, you see...
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 16:13:00 - [392] Originally by: Rodj Blake Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet. He clone-jumped because your fleet was incapable of clearing a path through the Star Fraction picket force. Strange how Amarrian religious mysteries must be abandoned when Amarrian paramilitaries come up short. Star Fraction is recruiting
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.12 19:15:00 - [393] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet. He clone-jumped because your fleet was incapable of clearing a path through the Star Fraction picket force. Strange how Amarrian religious mysteries must be abandoned when Amarrian paramilitaries come up short. Our mission, if I recall correctly, was to get Brother Joshua safely from point A to point B. Brother Joshua set out from point A with us and arrived safely at point B. End of story. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 19:37:00 - [394] Meanwhile, the Star Fraction makes progress towards its war aims. Welcome to the war, CVA. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.12 19:41:00 - [395] Doubtful, just another change of tune. You should start working on your firsth symphony with them all. If you wanted us in the war you would of declared nearly two weeks ago.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.12 19:52:00 - [396] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Meanwhile, the Star Fraction makes progress towards its war aims. As you failed to answer the questions about your goals you can pull as many Revan Neferis' now as you want - just make them up on the fly! Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 19:57:00 - [397] I'm making absolutely nothing up and no tune is being changed. The campaign has the name it has for a reason. You can try and ignore the fact that our initial objectives have been met in full all you like. Doesn't change the fact that have been met. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.12 20:28:00 - [398] We believe you - we truely do. As much as we believed it when Revan said she hired Privateers to declare on HF and SS to raise the costs for us. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.12 20:40:00 - [399] Originally by: The Cosmopolite You can try and ignore the fact that our initial objectives have been met in full all you like. Doesn't change the fact that they have been met. I guess that can be debated. However, my personal view is that SF should be left to decide for themselves wether they find their war a success - just don't expect the rest of us to share your views on the matter. Originally by: The Cosmopolite In the coming weeks, the Star Fraction is resolved to demonstrate that the very heartlands of the Amarr Empire are unsafe for its supporters and that we û anarchists, rebels, terrorists and outlaws that we may be û can and will operate against loyalist forces in the capital of the Empire and throughout the surrounding systems, constellations and regions. Quite easily obtained to be honest. If you measure your success by the fact that SF are capable of operating ships in the Amarr Empire then you are quite right: You have been succesfull. After all, sending two frigates to Amarr over the course of the week would enable you to claim victory on these grounds. I certainly admit that you have done more than that, but my point is that it would have required no more than this for you to claim your victory. Originally by: The Cosmopolite The fighters of the Star Fraction will wage war against the Amarr Empire's capsuleer lackies the better to oppose the spread of the tyrannical 'order' that is espoused by the Empire and all who support it. This one should prove to be more of a problem for you. The past week has seen several succesfull PIE and Amarr Loyalist operations throughout the Empire in accordance with our stated purposes. Let me mention that just last night Mr Archbishop held another successful sermon and that PIE pilots at the same time provided escort for Brother Joshua in his travels around the Empire. You may claim victory according to your own objectives if you so desire Mr Cosmopolite, you may even believe you have achieved it. However, I think you should realize that others may not agree with you in this question. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 20:47:00 - [400] Ultimately, I am not concerned whether Amarrian paramilitaries believe me or not. Once again, I repeat that victory has not been declared by any of us. I am merely reporting that the objectives of Operation Judas Goat have been met and progress has been made towards our goals in this war. Amarrian paramilitaries can dispute that if they wish but we in the Star Fraction were quite clear as to what we wished to achieve in the initial phase and it has been achieved. We now look forward to the next phase of the war. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Sardoniac Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris	Posted - 2007.04.12 20:48:00 - [401] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake Perhaps your alcoholism and debauchery is what prevented SF doing anything to actually hurt the Empire last night when Brother Joshua waltzed through your fleet. He clone-jumped because your fleet was incapable of clearing a path through the Star Fraction picket force. Strange how Amarrian religious mysteries must be abandoned when Amarrian paramilitaries come up short. The Ordo Quaesitoris, together with the convoy and Brother Joshua passed your fleet and was left unharmed. One of your fleet tried to lock me while the rest took the bait of the roughly 1:2 undermanned PIE fleet that made a stand on the other side of the gate to secure our safe passage. Your lies and deceit wont help you in this loss. All too greedy you went in for the kill...and lost the battle by winning it.
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 21:21:00 - [402] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Let me mention that just last night Mr Archbishop held another successful sermon A successful sermon? Sitting in a cloaked ship to blabber in local is a feat in some way? If you say so.
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.12 21:53:00 - [403] Edited by: Kaiso Ohad on 12/04/2007 21:50:37 Originally by: The Cosmopolite We now look forward to the next phase of the war. You'll run out of catchy campaign names at this rate.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.12 22:15:00 - [404] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko A successful sermon? Sitting in a cloaked ship to blabber in local is a feat in some way? If you say so. Maybe your combined strategical genius just doesn't rival that of a Fedo, which makes you pretty much a very predictable one-trick pony. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 22:32:00 - [405] Originally by: Tharrn Maybe your combined strategical genius just doesn't rival that of a Fedo, which makes you pretty much a very predictable one-trick pony. So says the sheep that behaved precisely as predicted. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.12 23:38:00 - [406] Quote: A successful sermon? Sitting in a cloaked ship to blabber in local is a feat in some way? If you say so. Oh I don't know... attendence was pretty good courtesy of the Star Fraction... while PIE, VV, AM and OO we're helping alter the political dynamics of the Empire with another act of loyalty to God and Empire. I think my sermon was a great success and I am so happy you enjoyed it. I know I did. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 23:49:00 - [407] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: A successful sermon? Sitting in a cloaked ship to blabber in local is a feat in some way? If you say so. Oh I don't know... attendence was pretty good courtesy of the Star Fraction... while PIE, VV, AM and OO we're helping alter the political dynamics of the Empire with another act of loyalty to God and Empire. I think my sermon was a great success and I am so happy you enjoyed it. I know I did. Archbishop I was just told that there would be "punch'n'PIE". _
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 12:17:00 - [408] Originally by: Archbishop Oh I don't know... attendence was pretty good courtesy of the Star Fraction... while PIE, VV, AM and OO we're helping alter the political dynamics of the Empire with another act of loyalty to God and Empire. I think my sermon was a great success and I am so happy you enjoyed it. I know I did. Archbishop Don't pat yourself on the back too much. Its not like we stayed long enough to around getting back in time to force the loyalist fleet to dock up and isolate Brother Joshua to his fate. Star Fraction is recruiting
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 12:30:00 - [409] This is the best war ever, getting to execute these disgusting pigdogs after they run their mouth on IGS is so satisfying .
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.14 13:32:00 - [410] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Archbishop Oh I don't know... attendence was pretty good courtesy of the Star Fraction... while PIE, VV, AM and OO we're helping alter the political dynamics of the Empire with another act of loyalty to God and Empire. I think my sermon was a great success and I am so happy you enjoyed it. I know I did. Archbishop Don't pat yourself on the back too much. Its not like we stayed long enough to around getting back in time to force the loyalist fleet to dock up and isolate Brother Joshua to his fate. The Amarrian Loyalists set out to do two things on the night in question. First, Archbishop was to give one of his famous sermons. Second we were to make sure that Brother Joshua could travel in safety from point A to point B. Archbishop did give his sermon and Brother Joshua set out from point A and arrived safely at point B. I think you'll need a better than average imagination to see this as anything but a success on behalf of the Amarrian loyalists, don't you? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 13:37:00 - [411] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Archbishop Oh I don't know... attendence was pretty good courtesy of the Star Fraction... while PIE, VV, AM and OO we're helping alter the political dynamics of the Empire with another act of loyalty to God and Empire. I think my sermon was a great success and I am so happy you enjoyed it. I know I did. Archbishop Don't pat yourself on the back too much. Its not like we stayed long enough to around getting back in time to force the loyalist fleet to dock up and isolate Brother Joshua to his fate. The Amarrian Loyalists set out to do two things on the night in question. First, Archbishop was to give one of his famous sermons. Second we were to make sure that Brother Joshua could travel in safety from point A to point B. Archbishop did give his sermon and Brother Joshua set out from point A and arrived safely at point B. I think you'll need a better than average imagination to see this as anything but a success on behalf of the Amarrian loyalists, don't you? Independent reports from capsuleers on the scene say you abandoned the convoy and fled to dock to save your ships. Star Fraction is recruiting
Udyr Vulpayne Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.14 14:12:00 - [412] Repeat that lie a few more times and your members may believe it.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.14 14:46:00 - [413] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Independent reports from capsuleers on the scene say you abandoned the convoy and fled to dock to save your ships. While your "independant" pilots may claim whatever they please, the fact remains that we did reach our objectives. Oh, and before I forget. Brother Joshua himself found our services recommendable and had absolutely no complaints about our conduct. Youre grasping at straws here Jasmine. Why don't you just admit it? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.14 15:12:00 - [414] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Independent reports from capsuleers on the scene say you abandoned the convoy and fled to dock to save your ships. You'll be hard-pressed to find someone who takes you seriously, let alone "independent" reports.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 15:15:00 - [415] As opposed to the utter trustworthiness of your side you mean? You're a funny, funny man.
Kaiso Ohad Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.14 15:26:00 - [416] Originally by: Heero Yuy As opposed to the utter trustworthiness of your side you mean? "No, you" seems to be your answer to everything these days, doesn't it.
Heero Yuy Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 16:40:00 - [417] There's really not that much to reply to. After all, most of your bunch have been proven to be inept liars over and over again.

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