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Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.04.06 09:53:00 - [121] Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Originally by: Mitch Taylor Originally by: Major Stormer As much as I dislike Mitch and Fallen Souls, this kind of ** is never needed. Lets keep it INGAME people. bearing inmind how **ed off i am right now, you just made me smile mate. :) Ironic to see the BOB slaves complain about something enemies of BOB has had to endure for years If u fight BOB - get used to it. If u fight Goons - get used to it. I think it would be ironic if it happened to bob and not their allies. Celes/Toxin vs BOB
Dr Slaughter Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:05:00 - [122] Originally by: Montaire Sadly thats meta-gaming for you. Unless you have some sort of Terms of Service for you TS, what was done isnt illegal. Probably breaks the hackers terms of service (AUP) with their ISP though.
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:05:00 - [123] Urm, Im going to break the forum blackout, but is that there own IRC server ? If so wouldn't it be rather stupid logging onto there as you would give them your IP etc etc.. and if they are known hackers and pretty good wouldn't it be a bad idea giving them your IP ? I dont know much about Internet and hacking, but I surpose you could go through a Proxy to log onto there IRC? Your signature image needs to be related to your ingame persona -Sahwoolo
Howi	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:07:00 - [124] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
DeckardIRL Bravehearts Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:11:00 - [125] Disgusting. 1) Have you logged the various IP addresses from the hacker and run any traces? 2) Provide the IP addresses to CCP and the local police. If you are US then I think the Secret Service also. 3) Have you contacted the TS developers? Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Admiral
Gutsani Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:11:00 - [126] Edited by: Gutsani on 06/04/2007 10:08:31 Well, whoever is employing and enjoying tactics like this against you guys should be even lower on my "sucks incredibly"-list.. (low = sucks alot, top = sucks less) I'm not sorry for you guys (exception for the female), just sorry for the pafethic individuals that do this kinda stuff and probably think they are cool. Hope you end up in jail rather then in the IT-industry, you would prolly be useless for it anyway. Good luck finding them Mitch, and report em to their ISP and stuff like that plz, they deserve it. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
The Dokter 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:20:00 - [127] Oke, everybdoy is already worked up and potining the finger to everybody and nobody at the same time. It seems that some outside group has hacked the ts server. But what I don't understand is that people don't get the difference between spying and hacking. If you spy, you use verbale and sociale skills in-game to get a benefit in-game. If you hack you us an out-side game technic to get an out-side game fun/advantage/grief moment/etc. So for me the use of spys isn't a problem, you can do somehting about, get beter recruitement, get beter control of your members, etc. Against hacking the only solution is out side game mechanics and that has nothing to do with the game. So people please stop saying that the friends of BOB are getting what the deserve because as far as we know at this moment, all the ts breaches by BOB and other allainces (it isn't like nondoy has done it before) have been done with in game mechanics and hacking a server is somehting completly new and I find it rather disgusting some people seem to think this is the right way to go. "It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you."
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:21:00 - [128] Originally by: Robetta Dobbs Edited by: Robetta Dobbs on 06/04/2007 10:01:06 lol :D
Tenaka Kahn Minmatar Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:33:00 - [129] The goons.net guys insofar as i know have no affiliation with Goonswarm and friends. One of their people hacked our TS a while back, luckily he seemed pretty crappy at accomplishing the charter that the goons.net guys seem to follow (i.e. making anyone who uses the internet miserable). I could be wrong about affiliation, but I've seen no ties so far. It is incredibly lame and sad that people can thrive on screwing with other people, good luck on your search and I hope whomever is doing it gets taken down and @#$ !@#$% in a cold prison cell. Ok, thats a tad over the top but sayin it makes me feel better.
Carl Bowmore North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:34:00 - [130] The Doctor has it nailed down as far as I can see. If you gain the trust of your opponent and manage to insert a spy in their organisation to gain intel and spread misinformation and perform acts of ingame sabotage that is all fair to me. Tough but fair. Hack on the other hand is a whole other issue. No ammount of ingame caution can protect you from that. There is a big difference between the two scenarion imo. Whether any alliance has members guilty of the latter I don't know, but I hardly think an alliance as a whole can be blamed, rather its one/a few sad isolated members that bring shame to their aaliance.
Croesus Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:48:00 - [131] Edited by: Croesus on 06/04/2007 10:46:51 What is the moral difference between hacking and using social engineering to get access to a ts server fx?
Zrevak Ashek Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.04.06 10:57:00 - [132] Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 06/04/2007 10:53:54 Originally by: UGWidowmaker Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Originally by: Vily Edited by: Vily on 05/04/2007 23:51:49 Originally by: Ty'derian Ironic to see the BOB slaves complain about something enemies of BOB has had to endure for years If u fight BOB - get used to it. If u fight Goons - get used to it. 100% agree there is a difference between sneaking on someones TS server and listening, and verbally assaulting female members. if you think that that is legitimate in ANY WAY, you need to get a reality check Oh, the spindoctors are here allready! Run to the hills! so u condole this ?? i dont like you! ccp plz do something to this moron. ___________________________________________________________ Condole? U mean condone? I was responding to Vily's attempt at making it look like I condoned this kinda behaviour by spinning my words. Which I did not. Reading comprehension 4tw. And yes, ure obviously a moron and I dont like u either
TheHumanity	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:04:00 - [133] g00ns.net is a not uncommon hacking group who **** up online games' websites and teamspeaks. Take a look. They have no association with Goonfleet or SomethingAwful.com. Neither goons.net or g00ns.net are websites made or maintained by Goonfleet.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:07:00 - [134] Originally by: Croesus What is the moral difference between hacking and using social engineering to get access to a ts server fx? Social engineering can be stopped/prevented by almost everyone, hacking can only be stopped by those who are good at it. Social engineering also fits within the game where hacking is taking it out of the game and the obvious step after that would be dropping by someones house with a baseball bat, not quite the direction you want online gaming to go ey? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Zakalwe Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:13:00 - [135] Edited by: Zakalwe on 06/04/2007 11:10:46 Originally by: Mitch Taylor Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 05/04/2007 23:21:57 What concerns me is this, our recent hostilities with certain corporations. The hackers apparent knowledge of the game our corporation and others we are at war with. And to put it simply the filthy language we had to endure. One female member was in a private channel and was called a * repeatedly. I am sickened by this turn of events, i sincerely hope this is not happening to anyone else and that this is not the way this game/war will be played from now on. We are just playing a game. These actions sicken me, whoever is responsible. Mitch For Dark Sorry for my bad english... I would be CCP, I would start to be anxious... Crowd Control Production slowly but surely start to control nothing of their game. It is clearly known in all psychology book that involving certain people in a certain amount of time and investment in any activity is a risk. And it is logical to see now the result of this equation. -The reaction of certain people about the "dev affair" has clearly showed to CCP how much certain people were addicted to the universe of Eve. -The anti BoB bashing campaign on this forum, and the war campaign in the game to defeat BoB is not really a game anymore : what Mitch just told us is the proof that it exceed largely the "game" itself. It start to enter in the Real Life of people. It's time to Crowd Control Production now to take serious decisions about the way their game works and to understand that they've created something that could escape from them. Hmmm... not in the name of my Corp/Alliance
Izzy Pol Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:14:00 - [136] Originally by: Kerosene I saw a post on eve-o from Blacklight that for the life of me I can't find but I had it quoted in my sig a while back if you remember. It said "We are on your forums We are on your teamspeak We are in your corp We don't care." It wasn't phrased exactly such but that's pretty close. So before everyone says 'OMGBOB WOULD NEVER DO THIS!' (tm Rexthor), remember... yes they would, have and do. You people seriously need a bit of reading comprehension and to stop twisting the truth. If you go back in history you will find 1) Infiltration != hacking and 2) Disrupting operations != Calling a member a ***** repeatedly and swearing at others (the worst accusation I recall about BoB is a spy started singing in one fleet battle) You aren't comparing apples with apples and are just letting your side of the conflict get in the way of rational discussion (yet again!)
Ronin Reborn Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:14:00 - [137] Before I got banned from our server I noticed they changed the server name to g00ns.net and the only remaining room name to www.g00ns-forum.net. This confirms, in my mind, that its a random act of e-vandilization. The "hackers" were obviously children, I made a comment about school must've just gotten out...oddly enough it was 4:00 in California at the time
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:18:00 - [138] you are not the only one who has had this. TRI teamspeak was hacked by the same person it sounds, someone came on and started throwing abuse as guest1... it was kind of funny though his accent made him more of a joke than something to be annoyed at. Anyway G00N.net came up as we were all banned. But i am told that they are nothing to do with any one single game and they are a group of common teamspeak griefers. So just change all ts details.
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:20:00 - [139] Originally by: Vily Edited by: Vily on 05/04/2007 23:51:49 Originally by: Ty'derian Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Originally by: Mitch Taylor Originally by: Major Stormer As much as I dislike Mitch and Fallen Souls, this kind of ** is never needed. Lets keep it INGAME people. bearing inmind how ed off i am right now, you just made me smile mate. :) Ironic to see the BOB slaves complain about something enemies of BOB has had to endure for years If u fight BOB - get used to it. If u fight Goons - get used to it. 100% agree there is a difference between sneaking on someones TS server and listening, and verbally assaulting female members. if you think that that is legitimate in ANY WAY**, you need to get a reality check I can sign that. <br> ...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
lles Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:25:00 - [140] Originally by: Dr Einkeisel Urm, Im going to break the forum blackout, but is that there own IRC server ? If so wouldn't it be rather stupid logging onto there as you would give them your IP etc etc.. and if they are known hackers and pretty good wouldn't it be a bad idea giving them your IP ? I dont know much about Internet and hacking, but I surpose you could go through a Proxy to log onto there IRC? Well...it looks like you know alot of it. And Im not gonna say that at some times TS get hacked just before or at the time of a battle with BOB. But that "MUST" be coincedence.....
g4mb0l Gallente Ghosts Of Stealth Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:30:00 - [141] Edited by: g4mb0l on 06/04/2007 11:29:25 I run a company that rent out teamspeak etc. Unfortunately teamspeak takeovers happens a lot, this is usually not directly hacking but kiddies that convince someone to do something they should not. Usually someone will jump on and convince some SA to pres keyboard shortcut that will make the intruder SA (i think they removed that shotcut from newest teamspeak not sure though, but probably a lot still use older version). So limit the number of SA's on your server to a minimum, and all SAs should have a hard password, and be very carefull with strangers. And get your TS provider to find the IP of the intruder and make him contact whatever company that it came from.
Zakalwe Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:31:00 - [142] Originally by: Vily there is a difference between sneaking on someones TS server and listening, and verbally assaulting female members. That' why i wrote what i wrote. Hmmm... not in the name of my Corp/Alliance
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:31:00 - [143] Originally by: Izzy Pol Originally by: Kerosene I saw a post on eve-o from Blacklight that for the life of me I can't find but I had it quoted in my sig a while back if you remember. It said "We are on your forums We are on your teamspeak We are in your corp We don't care." It wasn't phrased exactly such but that's pretty close. So before everyone says 'OMGBOB WOULD NEVER DO THIS!' (tm Rexthor), remember... yes they would, have and do. You people seriously need a bit of reading comprehension and to stop twisting the truth. If you go back in history you will find 1) Infiltration != hacking and 2) Disrupting operations != Calling a member a ***** repeatedly and swearing at others (the worst accusation I recall about BoB is a spy started singing in one fleet battle) You aren't comparing apples with apples and are just letting your side of the conflict get in the way of rational discussion (yet again!) And your BoB main is named?? <br> ...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
Ravysa Delorean Amarr Torro Negro Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:37:00 - [144] Originally by: DeckardIRL .... ..... 2) Provide the IP addresses to CCP and the local police. If you are US then I think the Secret Service also. .... Deck Bwahahah, also call the president, it¦s a matter of national security, rofl. WTS reality check.
Zrevak Ashek Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:44:00 - [145] Originally by: Ravysa Delorean Originally by: DeckardIRL .... ..... 2) Provide the IP addresses to CCP and the local police. If you are US then I think the Secret Service also. .... Deck Bwahahah, also call the president, it¦s a matter of national security, rofl. WTS reality check. ROFL! As it seems, there are kids involved in the shocking verbal assaults. I vote for them to be spanked repeteadly...and dont forget to notify their parents if u manage to track their IP. Remember to demand those kids get grounded. Nothing hurt more than a little house arrest
Goktar illiat Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:45:00 - [146] Pattesatan ! Thats one cool name lmao.
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:46:00 - [147] Sorry to hear yet another TS getting hacked, friend or foe I would not wish this on anyone (well maybe an exception for Man Utd fans) There is however no difference in how you gain access to a TS and ruin it for somebody, you are still achieving the same end. I live in Yorkshire and over here we call a spade a bloody shuvle non of this bollox about renaming unpleasant tasks/practices to make them more acceptable. So no more 'Social Engineering' it is lieing cheating and being a lowlife scumbag. If you feel you can justify lieing and cheating your way onto a server while hacking a server is something terribly wrong you are fooling only yourself. Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:55:00 - [148] Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Originally by: Mitch Taylor Originally by: Major Stormer As much as I dislike Mitch and Fallen Souls, this kind of ** is never needed. Lets keep it INGAME people. bearing inmind how **ed off i am right now, you just made me smile mate. :) Ironic to see the BOB slaves complain about something enemies of BOB has had to endure for years If u fight BOB - get used to it. If u fight Goons - get used to it. QFT
FooB2 Caldari Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.04.06 12:02:00 - [149] Edited by: FooB2 on 06/04/2007 12:00:39 even though i think its been made fairly evident who was responsible for this (g00ns.net) already, i still think i should point out a few things. TEAM LULZ had nothing to do with this, TEAM LULZ also shares no affiliation with any alliances or organizations ingame. we dont do what we do for anyone but ourselves, nor do we use any illegal methods to do what we do. 95% our comms access is granted by an informant who approaches US and asks US to do a server for him/her, and the other 5% have no passwords in the first place. Also, we identify ourselves as LULZ agents and you can ask us outright wether it was or was not TEAM LULZ and we will tell you the truth. we are also not restricted to EVE servers either, infact we hit less EVE servers than any other. you may call us "dirty metagamers" if you wish, but metagaming implies the person doing the metagaming has something to gain from the target in a game or something, and as said before, we only do it for the lulz. as for the ASCN "is it bob or TEAM LULZ" ordeal... we shared no affilition with them, infact we hate all alliances equally, it was just the tinfoil hat reaction of ASCN that lead to the accusation of BoB, which in turn caused us to take advantage of the potential LULZ that the situation had to offer, and then reveal our true identities at the end. the reason ASCN was the target was infact a member of ASCN that approached people in a certain ingame channel and asked everyone to join, and just screw about, which we did. admittedly it went a bit astray when people who werent TEAM LULZ officials got in and started going "over the line" but thats the way the cookie crumbles. that pretty much wraps it up. good day.
Blitzkrieg Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.04.06 12:06:00 - [150] Metagaming is killing Eve slowly but surely ... Thank you BoB for opening the door to Pandera box

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