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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:03:00 -
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Finally got a real life project out of the way so now theres time to go haxx0r the map some more, comment away;
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/Proto1.jpg
Large Power Blocks are listed and include alliances participating in that block as well as the name its known by.
Conquerable Stations are marked throughout the map and arrows are used to make movements in relation to ongoing wars.
I'm also thinking about changing the colors of alliances to shades of a single color to match their alignment, ie all bob aligned alliances would have a blueish color, all southern coalition pilots a redish color and all northern alliances a green shade. Unaligned alliances would have other colors or be gray. I'll prolly have a copy of this version done somewhere tomorrow.
No the power blocks aren't 100% accurate yet, no the current space markings arent accurate either, its only purpose is displaying the possible changes.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:05:00 -
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Is Cloud Ring officially now another Pet Region?
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:08:00 -
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Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
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Torshin
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:10:00 -
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I like the XX's but not sure what they stand for, also the directional arrows are cool. Also not sure how much of an impact that Rule of Three has played in the New Eden war and whether or not they should be included in the southern bloc
Offical Tardz Poo-litical Anal-yst
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. |
Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:11:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Finally got a real life project out of the way so now theres time to go haxx0r the map some more, comment away;
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/Proto1.jpg
Large Power Blocks are listed and include alliances participating in that block as well as the name its known by.
Conquerable Stations are marked throughout the map and arrows are used to make movements in relation to ongoing wars.
I'm also thinking about changing the colors of alliances to shades of a single color to match their alignment, ie all bob aligned alliances would have a blueish color, all southern coalition pilots a redish color and all northern alliances a green shade. Unaligned alliances would have other colors or be gray. I'll prolly have a copy of this version done somewhere tomorrow.
No the power blocks aren't 100% accurate yet, no the current space markings arent accurate either, its only purpose is displaying the possible changes.
Thanks for your work josh,but i love more the influence map :)
I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP. |
Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:11:00 -
[6]
*remains hiding off the map =P*
Originally by: Splagada
SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Torshin
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:11:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Former Ascn who live in Feyth, used to rent from BOB then switched sides around the time Gek moved in and sieged AZN and VNJG
Offical Tardz Poo-litical Anal-yst
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. |
Major Stormer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:13:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Clearly you have never seen the recuitment forum spammage by cold blade. *shivers in memory of the never ending copy and paste 3 year long replies in every thread and links to that awful awful website*
As for the map, the stations are a nice idea but a change to the icon is needed, it looks like your map has Chicken Pox Josh ;)
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:15:00 -
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Please a) point me to the post that announces BOB claims Cloud ring. or b) stop putting CR as part of the big blue donought. (just a personal request on the part of accuracy)
Other then that the new features are kinda kewl. just hope u update the map enough to make them remain valid...& perhaps at some point make the drone regions look like they arnt so empty? 
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:16:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche
Please a) point me to the post that announces BOB claims Cloud ring. or b) stop putting CR as part of the big blue donought. (just a personal request on the part of accuracy)
Other then that the new features are kinda kewl. just hope u update the map enough to make them remain valid...& perhaps at some point make the drone regions look like they arnt so empty?
Good to see someone stand up and claim what is theirs.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:26:00 -
[11]
Not bad, though i think that there just might be more political subdivisions than the north, the south, and bob/bobskis. :P
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:30:00 -
[12]
Nice changes. I like the addition of the conquerable stations. The color coding for power blocs ideas is a good one.
Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum |
Lea Redux
moon7empler
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:33:00 -
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Me likes a lot. The actual divisions will always attract flames, but the improvements to the layout are indisputably hawt.
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:33:00 -
[14]
And i who thought aaa still officially "owned" catch even though iac have the stations?
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maarud
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Crucifier
And i who thought aaa still officially "owned" catch even though iac have the stations?
WTS: Reading lvl III
Quote:
No the power blocks aren't 100% accurate yet, no the current space markings arent accurate either, its only purpose is displaying the possible changes.
Maarud.
Proudly a Ex-BYDI member |
Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:40:00 -
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Quote:
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Just some folks trying to ensure the two stations they built by themselves, stay theirs. We are not big by any stretch, certainly not Burn Eden level PVPers but a group of good guys (and of course Teresa ;) ) who have fun, work well together and always show respect on the battlefield.
Farham/Shilok
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:40:00 -
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Josh you misspelled the name of your own alliance 
And AXE as well, afaik it should be Axiom Empire not axoim :P
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:41:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Farham
Quote:
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Just some folks trying to ensure the two stations they built by themselves, stay theirs. We are not big by any stretch, certainly not Burn Eden level PVPers but a group of good guys (and of course Teresa ;) ) who have fun, work well together and always show respect on the battlefield.
Farham/Shilok
I thought you were rebel pets?
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Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:43:00 -
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Curse Alliance, Great Wildlands , Where ?
Celtic Anarchy is recruiting
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:46:00 -
[20]
Quote:
I thought you were rebel pets?
Nope.
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hangnoose
Caldari
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:04:00 -
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Nice map, but you might want to change united legions color?
It looks like BOB is in immensea
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Sir Howard
Gallente
Lynx Frontier Inc.
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:11:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche
Edited by: Louis DelaBlanche on 11/04/2007 18:41:06. b) stop putting CR as part of the big blue donought. (just a personal request on the part of accuracy, though i appreciate this is just a prototype & so the map hasnt been updated just had its new features added on
Heh well first off its a BoB friendly map, apparently by siding with BoB you've givin up all rights to your own color so as to make the blue blob look bigger.
"This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box" |
Tomas Ysidro
Caldari
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:18:00 -
[23]
Anyone else getting timeout errors from Eve-Files?
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PCX339
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: PCX339 on 11/04/2007 19:17:37
Umm... I don't THINK so.
Cloud Ring belongs to YouWhat.
I think you left your April Fool's graphics on this map Josh, jeeze!
Time to start using the daily updated influence map!
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Manas
The Graduates
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:24:00 -
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I am afraid I am getting spoiled by the Influence Map.
- Even tho the renters and the pets want it that way, knowing where the renting alliances are is useful information. A big plus for the influence map.
- Would like more detail on where the smaller alliances are (whether they rent or not).
- Having tied together alliances have similar color schemes (as you suggest) would be a big plus for the JF map.
- I would like the "power blocs" for those not involved in the great war somehow represented as well. (For example the roleplaying blocks, new region blocks, etc.)
To get what I want sounds like alot of work, which is why something based around the Influence map will be the only one that lasts. Maybe what I really want is a tweaked influence map, with a bit more "out-of-game" subjective info in it (like power blocs).
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:26:00 -
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Maybe instead of similar colors, you could use different patterns, like checkerboards for the NorthCo, Plaid for the SouthCo, and maybe a flower print for the Alliance.
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Howard
Heh well first off its a BoB friendly map, apparently by siding with BoB you've givin up all rights to your own color so as to make the blue blob look bigger.
Shouldn't you be arranging more NAPs up north?
Anyway.. This map is a PROTOTYPE .. As in no, it's not an official release, no the map isn't accurate, no it's not final.
The point of the post was to ask your oppinion about the new map layout, not the correctness of it's current area spread.
Now please take your flaming to the other map topic which discusses the correctnes of the information, not the layout and start giving comments and constructive critisism about the new layout suggestion 
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mama guru
Gallente
Friendship 7 Corporation
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: mama guru on 11/04/2007 19:24:39
Allow me to make this perfectly clear to you...
Aprils fool is one thing, its not funny any more though... Cloud Ring belongs to YouWhat, end of story. I dont care if im not supposed to post here, this thread is different.
-YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE-
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:28:00 -
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Josh - If I'm not mistaken, doesn't TCF actually own a couple of station down in lower Immensea? so why is the whole region showing up as United Legion? 
"...Amateurs do it until they get it right, Professionals do it until they can't get it wrong..." |
Varheg Xan
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:30:00 -
[30]
Isn't IAC in the "Southern Coalition"?
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:30:00 -
[31]
Will you YouWhat people stop crying about CR, this isn't accurate politically, it's only to show off the WIP layout 
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TJ17
Gallente
Mithril Inc
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:31:00 -
[32]
good map josh but y is IAC not a power block weve been pew pewing with bob and fix
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav
Maybe instead of similar colors, you could use different patterns, like checkerboards for the NorthCo, Plaid for the SouthCo, and maybe a flower print for the Alliance.
Thats actually not a bad idea, while perhaps not as aesthetically pleasing, the suggestive power of colour does have its effect. A change such as making bob blue and coalition red would suggest in its simplicity good vs bad. Which does lead to more claims of bias and favouratism.
'Tis nice to see an update though.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wardog 1
Originally by: NATMav
Maybe instead of similar colors, you could use different patterns, like checkerboards for the NorthCo, Plaid for the SouthCo, and maybe a flower print for the Alliance.
Thats actually not a bad idea, while perhaps not as aesthetically pleasing, the suggestive power of colour does have its effect. A change such as making bob blue and coalition red would suggest in its simplicity good vs bad. Which does lead to more claims of bias and favouratism.
'Tis nice to see an update though.
RA=red, there can be no other way tbh.
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:39:00 -
[35]
Originally by: James Snowscoran
RA=red, there can be no other way tbh.
Agreed.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:47:00 -
[36]
nice map josh, not nearly enough 'mitch' but nice 
Dark-Rising
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Puncher
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:06:00 -
[37]
Not sure why you're still spending time on this TBH, no one views the your map as anything more than A BoB propaganda tool at this point Joshua.
Paladin's EIM is the map of the future.
hirr Morsus Mihi |
Galavet
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:11:00 -
[38]
BoB does not claim Cloud Ring, and we ask the Map maker to change this when the official versions are released.
Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO |
Athanasios Anastasiou
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:12:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Puncher
Not sure why you're still spending time on this TBH, no one views the your map as anything more than A BoB propaganda tool at this point Joshua.
Paladin's EIM is the map of the future.
I view his map as a valuable resource to get a general idea of the power bloks in the war.
Why don't you try to do something constructive instead of putting people down?
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Garrett Smith
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:19:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Wardog 1
Originally by: NATMav
Maybe instead of similar colors, you could use different patterns, like checkerboards for the NorthCo, Plaid for the SouthCo, and maybe a flower print for the Alliance.
Thats actually not a bad idea, while perhaps not as aesthetically pleasing, the suggestive power of colour does have its effect. A change such as making bob blue and coalition red would suggest in its simplicity good vs bad. Which does lead to more claims of bias and favouratism.
'Tis nice to see an update though.
I also think a striped pattern and checkered pattern is a much better idea than blue and red for this exact reason. It is a fact that colors influence, if you want to claim to be unbiased a different method is probably the way you should go.
Originally by: El Yatta
they shouldnt have gotten involved in supercaps, because on the whole they are very dull, except for 2-3 people in the alliance who get to go "wheee, i cant be scrambled, pwn pwn". |
Tod Klemp
Gallente
K-Street Project
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:21:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Crucifier
And i who thought aaa still officially "owned" catch even though iac have the stations?
So that makes IAC pets then.
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WildCard
Gallente
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:33:00 -
[42]
Well i have no problems when you mark CloudRing as part of the "Good Power Block".
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
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Saladin
Minmatar
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:37:00 -
[43]
Frankly the graphics are outdated and quite bland. In addition, the size of the picture and its resolution definitely allow room for some additional text. So instead of have to use the effing legend can we just see the text info of the conflicts instead of (10), (9) and other numbers.
Also I think a nice a tool would be to highlight systems that have capital shipyards in red. Except for mine.
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Kuang
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.11 20:42:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Puncher
Not sure why you're still spending time on this TBH, no one views the your map as anything more than A BoB propaganda tool at this point Joshua.
Paladin's EIM is the map of the future.
Paladins map has it's place ( I do view it everyday ) but having a political map is also nice ... Josh has done a great job ( and thankless one ) and usually very consistent . If you have such a problem with it then please by all means take the time out of your day .. out of your eve time and make a map .
Have always thanked Josh in local back when VIRII was utopia to when CDC was in Vale ... and will thank him right now ( since now I am a so called bob alt / pet ) for the job he does and all the crap he takes
btw new map is nice and an upgrade was due
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Firane
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:36:00 -
[45]
Looks good. I'm not sure about changing to shades though, this war won't last forever and people will be fighting each other again soon enough.
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Snarker
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:39:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Hi!
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NeverL
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:41:00 -
[47]
hehe ca are empire carebears good good
lets join hands and mine veld in jita
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.11 22:41:00 -
[48]
Originally by: WildCard
Well i have no problems when you mark CloudRing as part of the "Good Power Block".
Now you're just pushing it. =P
Originally by: Splagada
SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 22:43:00 -
[49]
Blimey at all the complaints over cloud ring. Please note hte disclaimer in the original post, i should prolly also point out that Cloud Ring was never meant to be marked Bob space, it simply a shade of blue which relates to the 2nd paragraph in the OP. I missed the alliance label though. 
Again, this map is purely for getting comments on the new changes NOT for the accuracy of this and that claim displayed here, you'll find those correctly marked on map that should be replacing the april fools edition in an hour or so.
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Borg017
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.11 22:54:00 -
[50]
Josh, nice try but the auto-map is still better. Sorry, it is the truth .
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 23:02:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Borg017
Josh, nice try but the auto-map is still better. Sorry, it is the truth .
Technically it's subjective opinion, but hey, go wild man.
It's not like anyone's forcing you to read Joshua's map anyways
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GO MaZ
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.04.11 23:04:00 -
[52]
I Cant hear over all this slurping.
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Githtakai
Gallente
Crab and Krawdad Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.11 23:25:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Firane
Looks good. I'm not sure about changing to shades though, this war won't last forever and people will be fighting each other again soon enough.
True but even outside war people tend to group together, the north has always been largely united, same with certain alliance in the south and Bob space. While the number or name of power blocks would change the existence of such power blocks would not.
Yeah, but that is subjective while diplomancy is nuanced and constantly changing. It would suck to be attacked by a big (say, Blue) force because Josh thought you were buddies with the Red guys when in fact you just had a temporary peace.
Maps change opinions and strategies, mapmakers need to try to keep opinion out of it.
My 2 cents as a guy between alliances for the time being.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Guardians of the Dawn
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.11 23:43:00 -
[54]
The maps is better. But your map is a political map. It cannot be better than Paladiind one to show who gained and lost space. So i think you shoud concentrate on showing political relations, like soem said simmilar patter colors for deeply bound alliances etcc..
I know its a lot of work, but its the type of thing your map can do and paladin 's can't
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.04.12 01:43:00 -
[55]
Edited by: RedClaws on 12/04/2007 01:41:35
Originally by: Shin Ra
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Us :D
ex-ASCN that payed off bob to let us stay in our space. 2 months later we saw a way to rebel against bob (common what do you expect from a "bob pet alliance") and took it.
Originally by: Major Stormer
Clearly you have never seen the recuitment forum spammage by cold blade. *shivers in memory of the never ending copy and paste 3 year long replies in every thread and links to that awful awful website*
Sorry don't know any cold blade though. We're a new alliance :)
We don't smack, we give good fights and we have mature players. Currently fighting RISA alliance.
On the topic of the map though : Sorry Joshua but after seeing all sorts of works from you I believe that you're very pro-bob and thus I never really believe much you make anymore. A good mapmaker or reporter should always have a neutral standpoint.
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Syntosk
Amarr
Ticon Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.12 02:07:00 -
[56]
Originally by: RedClaws
On the topic of the map though : Sorry Joshua but after seeing all sorts of works from you I believe that you're very pro-bob and thus I never really believe much you make anymore. A good mapmaker or reporter should always have a neutral standpoint.
This guy is right, to see what BoB think of the game, see joshua map, to see what is real, see paladin's map.
Any doubt Joshua vision is biased? i give no credit to his maps... what what?
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 02:15:00 -
[57]
I like the outpost/station symbols, an idea that has been suggested a million times before and you've applied it in a pretty neat-looking way. Good job.
I think it would be cool if you could shade the area around certain power blocks to indicate major allegiances such as The North, the RAGoonTCF block, and ofc the BoB block.
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WeComeInPeace Video |
Trivas
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.12 02:56:00 -
[58]
I love the YouWhat text. You should make that the default text for all alliances.
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Admentus Cor'vion
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.12 03:45:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Borg017
Josh, nice try but the auto-map is still better. Sorry, it is the truth .
I think josh could sex up the automap with his photoshop skills.
TBH I think the automap is cool and all and always factual and there's little room for error.
It's also a good way to find offline pos's :)
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Ban Shui
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.04.12 04:04:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
I'm also thinking about changing the colors of alliances to shades of a single color to match their alignment, ie all bob aligned alliances would have a blueish color, all southern coalition pilots a redish color and all northern alliances a green shade. Unaligned alliances would have other colors or be gray. I'll prolly have a copy of this version done somewhere tomorrow.
You could just have two maps.
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Pezzle
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 04:39:00 -
[61]
Actually, instead of shading various cooperating entities, why not just draw a territory line around them in a contrasting color. This way you could show cooperating and overlapping interests. If you are at all interested in keeping track of naps and cooperative ventures of course :)
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 04:42:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 12/04/2007 04:41:29
Originally by: Crucifier
And i who thought aaa still officially "owned" catch even though iac have the stations?
Nobody owns Catch.
IAC owns the JZV constellation and the station systems
AAA own some of the plexes
IAC is the dominant force in the rest of Catch but we don't claim it and afaik AAA don't either.
Edit; IAC is part of the Southern Coalition, not sure all the others listed on map are tho
Rule of Three, POS and the ex-ASCN ones aren't in channels at any rate
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Oli4Oli4
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.12 06:07:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Oli4Oli4 on 12/04/2007 06:03:38
Venal is not D2 space.
Venal is atm a warzone but mainly controlled by Tri and friends we are burning down the region.
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Drilla
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.12 07:22:00 -
[64]
Looks good JF and please continue to make your map, the influence map is so ugly and useless we need yours.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
The Internetz
United Society Starfleet
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.12 07:32:00 -
[65]
Axoim Empire, yo!
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 08:31:00 -
[66]
Originally by: RedClaws
Edited by: RedClaws on 12/04/2007 01:41:35
Originally by: Shin Ra
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Us :D
ex-ASCN that payed off bob to let us stay in our space. 2 months later we saw a way to rebel against bob (common what do you expect from a "bob pet alliance") and took it.
Make up your mind already...yesterday Intrepid Crossing said this:
Originally by: Farham
Originally by: James Snowscoran
I thought you were rebel pets?
Nope.
So which is it?
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Shiraz Merlot
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 10:13:00 -
[67]
"Major blocs" could be better than "Political powerblocks" which sounds to me like some kind of Lego.
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Assassin 2
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.12 10:17:00 -
[68]
Triumvirate is fighting Venal residents over venal pos wars etc so could you make that a war zone please....oh and were winning :P
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:20:00 -
[69]
Like the aditions to the map, I would love to see the blocs be in one and the same color/stripping/etc. Makes it a bit more clear.
Keep up the good work.
p.s. The influence map only shows poses and stations, not who claims a certain region. So this map is needed.
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Glitch 10240
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:30:00 -
[70]
Originally by: James Snowscoran
Originally by: RedClaws
Edited by: RedClaws on 12/04/2007 01:41:35
Originally by: Shin Ra
Who the hell are intrepid crossing?
Us :D
ex-ASCN that payed off bob to let us stay in our space. 2 months later we saw a way to rebel against bob (common what do you expect from a "bob pet alliance") and took it.
Make up your mind already...yesterday Intrepid Crossing said this:
Originally by: Farham
Originally by: James Snowscoran
I thought you were rebel pets?
Nope.
So which is it?
Nah intrepid crossing consists of Dragons Rage and AWE (ex-ASCN) and now ATION, as bob invaded, the two corps their at the time decided to take bobs offer, instead of loosing the station and being sent back to empire. After which the newly formed Intrepid Crossing decided to join the coalition and once again fight bob
Hope that explains it m8
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:31:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Assassin 2
Triumvirate is fighting Venal residents over venal pos wars etc so could you make that a war zone please....oh and were winning :P
Fighting is such a strong word for what they're doing, don't you think?
Originally by: Benglada
And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Evenfall Phoenix
The Arrow Project
The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:01:00 -
[72]
tsk tsk you missed The Arrow Project as part of the Northern Coalition.
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Almarez
Setenta Corp
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:03:00 -
[73]
Hey Josh, can you please explain your dating scheme. I think I see day, month, but what is up with the year?
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Nai Ling
Amarr
Middle Finger Technology
Ghosts Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:23:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 11/04/2007 22:46:57
Blimey at all the complaints over cloud ring. Please note hte disclaimer in the original post, i should prolly also point out that Cloud Ring was never meant to be marked Bob space, it simply a shade of blue which relates to the 2nd paragraph in the OP. I missed the alliance label though.
But, JOSH..... That would require reading! You know how that subject goes around here. 
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General Xerxes
Delta Omega Iota Inc.
Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:09:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Almarez
Hey Josh, can you please explain your dating scheme. I think I see day, month, but what is up with the year?
He's using In Game years rather than RL years. Basically it's 109 years since they standardized time so it's the year 109, which corresponds to 2007 in RL.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:11:00 -
[76]
Originally by: General Xerxes
Originally by: Almarez
Hey Josh, can you please explain your dating scheme. I think I see day, month, but what is up with the year?
He's using In Game years rather than RL years. Basically it's 109 years since they standardized time so it's the year 109, which corresponds to 2007 in RL.
Thanks for clearing that up. Most non-RPers don't pick up on that stuff.
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Dire Lauthris
Caldari
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:34:00 -
[77]
I think you should stop messing about with maps and do my damn sig!
o/ I'm fired!
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Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:42:00 -
[78]
Joshua, your graphical sense is great - the map is very visually clear and appealing. Not so sure about the content - but thought you'd appreciate some like.. non-hat responses.
How about including ship/pod kills on the map too? Mega-deaths per region/constellation would be nice... but I guess you'd need ccp help to get the data.
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 21:06:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Morris Falter
How about including ship/pod kills on the map too? Mega-deaths per region/constellation would be nice... but I guess you'd need ccp help to get the data.
That's kinda.. Stupid.. Just use the ingame map for that ****
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.12 21:14:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Morris Falter
Joshua, your graphical sense is great - the map is very visually clear and appealing. Not so sure about the content - but thought you'd appreciate some like.. non-hat responses.
How about including ship/pod kills on the map too? Mega-deaths per region/constellation would be nice... but I guess you'd need ccp help to get the data.
It probably isn't practical, given that the map is only updated every 2 or three weeks or so.
For the automatic map this would be a cool feature though.
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Linavin
Mercurialis Inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.13 00:08:00 -
[81]
The thing that I always enjoyed about your maps was how clean they were. No station markers, no attack move markers. Just crisp alliance boarders and the occasionial war marker. I say play to your niche, the automap already has station markers, and assault markers are simply unessary as far as im concerned (We already can see the direction of conflicts with the warzone box). The Powerblock chart is a nice addition and and its the only one worth keeping in my opinion. It a politcal map, not a factual map, play to your forte and leave the blunt ugly facts to the automap.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.13 06:01:00 -
[82]
Originally by: James Snowscoran
Originally by: Morris Falter
Joshua, your graphical sense is great - the map is very visually clear and appealing. Not so sure about the content - but thought you'd appreciate some like.. non-hat responses.
How about including ship/pod kills on the map too? Mega-deaths per region/constellation would be nice... but I guess you'd need ccp help to get the data.
It probably isn't practical, given that the map is only updated every 2 or three weeks or so.
For the automatic map this would be a cool feature though.
depending on how he gets his data, a "conflict map" might be pretty easy to make.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.13 06:28:00 -
[83]
Your maps has always been pro-BoB so they aren't accurate or even neutral. Luckily we have nowadays other maps to use
Proud member of Cult of War and Amarr 4tw
Finnish people seeking PvP, contact me ingame!
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.13 09:09:00 -
[84]
Another blatent ignoral of the Privateer alliance stake in empire
HUMPF
SKUNK
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.13 13:05:00 -
[85]
Edited by: MrLobster on 13/04/2007 13:03:38
Influence Map
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=485975 ftw!!!!
I cant wait till they release the XML of all the sovs, then maybe this map can become a true representation.
Edit: I wish eve forums would auto link a url.
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Maliber
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.15 22:58:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Maliber on 15/04/2007 23:01:48
Hi Joshua,
The new map looks great. maybe a little more color difference between the alliances in the same powerblock but other than that i think your map looks great.
Maliber
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Father Weebles
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.15 23:11:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Father Weebles on 15/04/2007 23:07:35
the map doesnt have RIOT
we are fighting alongside CoW against TCF/RA/Goons/CA
"Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
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Drasked
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.16 07:04:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Drasked on 16/04/2007 07:00:54
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
No the power blocks aren't 100% accurate yet, no the current space markings arent accurate either, its only purpose is displaying the possible changes.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.04.16 16:09:00 -
[89]
Keep it up Josh. Love the changers and couldn't do without the map. Seen others, prefer yours.
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Githtakai
Gallente
Crab and Krawdad Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.16 21:20:00 -
[90]
So... what happened to the imminent update ? :)
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.16 21:49:00 -
[91]
What about it?
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Paul Castrin
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.16 23:36:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Puncher
Not sure why you're still spending time on this TBH, no one views the your map as anything more than A BoB propaganda tool at this point Joshua.
Because i dont waste listening to enemies whine about how life is unfair on them.
… and thus the reason why your map will always be tainted to many of us in EVE.
I don't think what you’re doing is a bad thing but when you let your political opinions color your responses it's obvious to all (that are not biased) that your map can't be completely trusted. Maybe as a general "political" map or one that shows regular hot spots but definitely not one that shows what the reality in the game truly is.
For that I will continue to use the newer and less "tainted" influence map. It at least is based on who really owns what in the EVE universe. It may not be as ‘clean’ as yours is or as simple to understand but it’s more accurate over all and once you understand that it’s a truer representation of the messy universe of EVE then you can see how it is merely reflecting that.
I appreciate the work you’ve done and I think you should keep it up and I will probably use it to compare / contrast with the influence map. Besides, competition is a good thing. I'm sure you will agree.
Peace.
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Githtakai
Gallente
Crab and Krawdad Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.17 15:32:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
What about it?
Well, until that response I had thought you didn't make the update since the date in the alliance map thread still indicates an old map.
I see now that you have updated it, but that the link thread has not been updated.
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Proxay
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 15:33:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Githtakai
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
What about it?
Well, until that response I had thought you didn't make the update since the date in the alliance map thread still indicates an old map.
I see now that you have updated it, but that the link thread has not been updated.
He can't edit an ISD post.
God I hope this is under 24kb
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.17 16:10:00 -
[95]
Joshua a word about GW unofficially: There is no CA presence there... well above nominal randoms. There is definately no war between COW and CA there. The Foundation guys are still around but they are our chums as you might now. Numbers wise it is mainly AWAR and RIOT living in GW. We are different alliances but just about. No reason for war marker, no reason for control markers or any marker at all.
If you have to do something call us pirates and put a pirate infestation sign over it...
This post is unofficial so strictly against rules for this threads... but you know that when I tell you something about GW usually a rush of official posts follows and in the end same result as suggested initially... perhaps we can skip that this time?
Mods feel free to delete if appropriate. Ty
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:05:00 -
[96]
Hey nice work on making all the Major blocks visible using the same color, but maybe you can seperate bob and pets more?
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