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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:34:00 -
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Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps 0.4-0.1 is a waste and no-one goes there 0.0 is filled with bubble blobs Wars have just been nerfed upside down. Carebears have it all to damn good. HP boost makes things harder to kill... Caldari already sucks.. don't take away our wars!
/Discuss!
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:37:00 -
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I'm going to go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. That's where real PvP is.
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Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tista Carebears have it all to damn good. /Discuss!
Carebears have it too damn good in what way? You can't just pick them off at your leisure or what?
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Portios Smith
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:39:00 -
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You know things are bad when WoW pvp is starting to be more exciting

I want the truth
You can't handle the truth - Ductoris |

Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Portios Smith You know things are bad when WoW pvp is starting to be more exciting

im actualy crying.. because it's true...
after kali and the ultra pirate nerf beating i resorted to WoW.. i spend more time on that than this.. i want real pvp back.. the good old days of people in low sec pirating small time.. and pirate hunters... not all this fancy 30 man blobbage and battleships being nearly invincible ( read prv whine thread)...
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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Marcathonas
Minmatar Zephyr Manufacturing Group SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tista Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps
You know there's an other side to gates, right? I'm still getting a healthy amount of ganks.
As for no-one being in lowsec, relocate. I've found plenty of lowsec systems with an average of 10 residents per system the entire constellation, and they're good to slaughter for a few weeks if not months.
0.0, eh. Bubbles are avoidable if you know how to operate a scanner.
HP boost makes things take longer to kill, not harder.
Yeah you're whining or don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:43:00 -
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CCP backtrack Eve completley till 2006 summer and leave it at that... no more crappy changes.. it was good back then! when people moaned about ECM and frigates didnt take 30 odd bs rounds to pop
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tista Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps 0.4-0.1 is a waste and no-one goes there 0.0 is filled with bubble blobs Wars have just been nerfed upside down. Carebears have it all to damn good. HP boost makes things harder to kill... Caldari already sucks.. don't take away our wars!
/Discuss!
have you ever even been to 0.0? ______________________
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Cleveland Steam
Neverland Ranch Hands
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Portios Smith You know things are bad when WoW pvp is starting to be more exciting

If you want to make a point, at least use something believable to do it. Fetus Balloon?
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Marcathonas
Originally by: Tista Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps
You know there's an other side to gates, right? I'm still getting a healthy amount of ganks.
As for no-one being in lowsec, relocate. I've found plenty of lowsec systems with an average of 10 residents per system the entire constellation, and they're good to slaughter for a few weeks if not months.
0.0, eh. Bubbles are avoidable if you know how to operate a scanner.
HP boost makes things take longer to kill, not harder.
Yeah you're whining or don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
well to be honest.. im fedup of owning a caldari pilot.. i used to have an amarr recon pilot and run around my home system eating noobies alive sneaky style.. now i got a caldari pilot and they cant pvp for crap.. or am i missing something (if so please tell me 2 months of ****e pvp is making me want to revert to WoW)
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tista Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps 0.4-0.1 is a waste and no-one goes there 0.0 is filled with bubble blobs Wars have just been nerfed upside down. Carebears have it all to damn good. HP boost makes things harder to kill... Caldari already sucks.. don't take away our wars!
/Discuss!
WTZ is different from insta-bm's how? Bubbles are avoidable. Wars are not a free time in empire, just pick your targets. Things taking longer to kill making you organise a skirmish instead of a gank? Awwww :( Caldari what?
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Portios Smith
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Cleveland Steam
Originally by: Portios Smith You know things are bad when WoW pvp is starting to be more exciting

If you want to make a point, at least use something believable to do it.
It is, in WoW you need 40 people blobs to PVE but solo PvP is there, in EVE you need 40 people blobs so that solo PVE may flourish 
I want the truth
You can't handle the truth - Ductoris |

Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:49:00 -
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noobs didnt have bms- WTZ is different from insta-bm's how? if you got intell yes- Bubbles are avoidable.
Wars are not a free time in empire, just pick your targets.
meh..-Things taking longer to kill making you organise a skirmish
i miss ganking -instead of a gank? Awwww :(
Caldari sucks monkey-Caldari what?
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:50:00 -
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Wars have not been nerfed. Having 50 wars has been nerfed. having 1 meaningful war against someone you consider a genuine enemy works just the same as always. --------
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Vincent Gaines
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 17/04/2007 21:48:23
Quote: Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps
Instas existed long before....
Quote: 0.4-0.1 is a waste and no-one goes there
Fly through Rancer during peak hours :)
Quote: 0.0 is filled with bubble blobs
completely false. 0.0 has many random roaming gangs through it, and bubbles are not common.
But then again, were't you just upset over warp to 0 not catching anyone?
Quote: Wars have just been nerfed upside down.
Nope, they've just been given a stacking penalty, 'tis all.
Quote: Carebears have it all to damn good.
They make no money, and life a boring existance.. not very good IMO
Quote: HP boost makes things harder to kill...
fights last longer
Quote: Caldari already sucks.. don't take away our wars!
lol
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 Wars have not been nerfed. Having 50 wars has been nerfed. having 1 meaningful war against someone you consider a genuine enemy works just the same as always.
tis expensive, im a solo pilot i prefer to work alone and 200-250mil a war-dec is too much for me.
in the past i have war deced corps.. irritated them into submission then requested the isk to stop.. great fun.
canny do that now 
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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Cleveland Steam
Neverland Ranch Hands
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Portios Smith
It is, in WoW you need 40 people blobs to PVE but solo PvP is there, in EVE you need 40 people blobs in PVP so that solo PVE may flourish 
Meh. Fetus Balloon?
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cleveland Steam
Originally by: Portios Smith
It is, in WoW you need 40 people blobs to PVE but solo PvP is there, in EVE you need 40 people blobs in PVP so that solo PVE may flourish 
Meh.
i see alot of kinda half way answers in this thread.
by that i mean people arnt too sure to agree with the few or go with the masses.
tbh he's right.
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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fuxs
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Portios Smith You know things are bad when WoW pvp is starting to be more exciting

Complaints regarding PVP from someone who wardecs and blasts undocking freighters in Jita? Irony.
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Cleveland Steam
Neverland Ranch Hands
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tista
tbh he's right.
About what? WoW > Eve? Id rather not argue that point because its one of opinion but I still think thats a harsh criticizm...maybe even just knee-jerk.
That game is trash anymore. Addictive trash.
Fetus Balloon?
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:57:00 -
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What a lot of people do not relise, is that pvp for many is the only fun part of eve.
Dont worry privateers - Hopefully Factional Warfare will finally bring back mass empire pvp that you guys wanted. --
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Marcathonas Yeah you're whining or don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
I agree.
CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too. |

shoo e'nuff
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:04:00 -
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So I don't get all this whining here. You can still Wardec corps, you can still Wardec multiple corps. You just can't Wardec EVERYONE and force your pvp preference on them. Why is this such a big deal? You can still pick on the carebears, just not all at once. Who's the master? Shoo E'nuff |

Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
Originally by: Tista I want to gank noobs with no effort, and I can't any more. /Discuss!
Fixed for you.
why should noobs be able to gank me easypies :(
25 mil sp raven VS 2x 2 month old domi's.
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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Cleveland Steam
Neverland Ranch Hands
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
Originally by: Portios Smith You know things are bad when WoW pvp is starting to be more exciting

Sadly the truth. I barely ever undock anymore.
The best thing WoW has to offer is the humor.
Example: Yo' mama's so fat, it takes 2 warlocks to summon her.
That and all of the ridiculous stereotypes, YTMND's, and e-cliches they've generated by bringing together 6 million teenagers. The monkeys->Shakespear thing comes to mind.
Fetus Balloon?
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Altrex Stoppel
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tista Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps 0.4-0.1 is a waste and no-one goes there 0.0 is filled with bubble blobs Wars have just been nerfed upside down. Carebears have it all to damn good. HP boost makes things harder to kill... Caldari already sucks.. don't take away our wars!
/Discuss!
Made me lol. Msot of 0.0 is so farking empty its not even funny. The parts that are full of bubble blobs can be avoided I mean use the map.
Originally by: ISD Mod-hango (talking about SNOWY) It's a pirate corp, deployed near the amarr gates.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 17/04/2007 22:14:00 ]
Quote: Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps
Use the other side, use a sb'ing Rokh, use the belts use your brains.
Quote: 0.4-0.1 is a waste and no-one goes there
Your right, because it isnt worth it to anyone with sense, or anyone that has 0.0 access.
Quote: 0.0 is filled with bubble blobs
No it isnt. Oh if you come up the pipe with a big gang that has been noticed, sure, your gonna get dictored.(assuming you have crappy scouts, and dont know wtf your doing.)
Quote: Wars have just been nerfed upside down.
Not, The price of multiple wars has just gone up.
Quote: Carebears have it all to damn good.
Whatever, frankly you havent a damn clue if you think Miners have it good.
Quote: HP boost makes things harder to kill...
Gank you mean.
Quote: Caldari already sucks.. don't take away our wars!
No we don't, unless you insist on soloing with cookie cutter configurations, you can dec enough people to make you happy, you just cant dec EVERYONE now.
Quote: Discuss!
Just did.
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Altrex Stoppel
Originally by: Tista Right.. so you can't gank on gates because of 0m warps 0.4-0.1 is a waste and no-one goes there 0.0 is filled with bubble blobs Wars have just been nerfed upside down. Carebears have it all to damn good. HP boost makes things harder to kill... Caldari already sucks.. don't take away our wars!
/Discuss!
Made me lol. Msot of 0.0 is so farking empty its not even funny. The parts that are full of bubble blobs can be avoided I mean use the map.
30000 players devided by 5000 systems?
average of 6 people per system, now consider that 3% of players are in jita, then consider that 60-70% are in 0.5+ and what you got left devided between the 4000 low sec systems
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tista
30000 players devided by 5000 systems?
average of 6 people per system, now consider that 3% of players are in jita, then consider that 60-70% are in 0.5+ and what you got left devided between the 4000 low sec systems
All very well and good, but do you visit 0.0 often? I once found a nice system about 7 jumps from an open ISS station (this being back in the day) with some decent ratting. You know, about 1 million bounty tops, a good enough spread to chain. I set up camp there for about a week, didn't see a single other person there, even once.
Its all there for the looking for. A determined roaming ganker will find enough soloers too keep himself entertained. Not the same kind of intensity of camping a bottleneck or being in Privateers, but enough to make the subscription worth paying for.
Theres plenty of 0.0 pirate corps who entertain themselves well without resorting to bubble camping or POS warfare. Take Triumvirate for example. Been harassing FLA, IRON and D2 effectively since time immemorial. --------
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Tista
30000 players devided by 5000 systems?
average of 6 people per system, now consider that 3% of players are in jita, then consider that 60-70% are in 0.5+ and what you got left devided between the 4000 low sec systems
All very well and good, but do you visit 0.0 often? I once found a nice system about 7 jumps from an open ISS station (this being back in the day) with some decent ratting. You know, about 1 million bounty tops, a good enough spread to chain. I set up camp there for about a week, didn't see a single other person there, even once.
Its all there for the looking for. A determined roaming ganker will find enough soloers too keep himself entertained. Not the same kind of intensity of camping a bottleneck or being in Privateers, but enough to make the subscription worth paying for.
Theres plenty of 0.0 pirate corps who entertain themselves well without resorting to bubble camping or POS warfare. Take Triumvirate for example. Been harassing FLA, IRON and D2 effectively since time immemorial.
is it just me who sees a problem with this both ways? not enough people and too many people?
Originally by: Kruel
Originally by: Admiral Pieg I kind of feel for you guys, i really do, but making whine threads and throwing temper tantrums arent the answer mate.
Why not, it worked for the carebears?
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