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Necroman Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.18 04:04:00 - [31] I find some of your responses humorous.To place an outpost is a risk. To place an outpost with all moons covered is risky. To place an outpost with 51 percent of moons covered is dangerous. To place an outpost with less than 51 percent of moons covered is just plain stupid, You were asked to cover the moons. You failed to do so and now your are whinning because you did not do so. Fly Safe --- Vendetta Underground. never dies, they just go to hell and regroup
Sir Bart Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.18 04:26:00 - [32] I am honestly quite bothered by taking the system from you guys. I wish a peaceful solution could have been worked out as I have always seen Tre Kron as friends. I, however, am not in a position to make descisions. I just shoot who I am told to shoot and have to assume RULE leadership did this as their only option. We have enemies that wish us harm and we cannot allow them a foothold six jumps from our home system. Sorry things didn't work out better, Sir Bart
Ace Frehley Minmatar Black Lance NBSI Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.18 05:41:00 - [33] Edited by: Ace Frehley on 18/04/2007 05:37:20 Kill em Tre!! You got the power of all swedes streanghts behind ya -T DOM LEVANDE!!!!! Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes
Camael Kuro Snow Flake Industries	Posted - 2007.04.18 05:49:00 - [34] Edited by: Camael Kuro on 18/04/2007 05:45:08 You do realise that probably more than 50% of all outposts in EVE are covered by 2-4 POS only? Of course most of them have a significant cap fleet to back them up but taking an outpost while you are blue because 'you are too weak' sounds a bit like an excuse for a land grab to me.
Hauler Biotch	Posted - 2007.04.18 06:05:00 - [35] "Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends, why can't we be friend's, why can't we be friends?"
Twoside Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.18 06:17:00 - [36] Guys, take this discussion off CAOD and sort it in the appropriate channels. Debating on here is pointless and tbh, rather dissapointing from both of your ends.
Dawn Razor Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.04.18 06:18:00 - [37] We have been nothing but straight and honest with RULE, but as stated above TRE has been going through a re-organisation as an alliance the last couple of days. There has been, and still is, lots af administration to handle with new corps entering, and some old corps leaving. What RULE claims to be shady or blurry answers from our part concerning security, capital fleet and alliance corps is simply the fact that our diplomats cannot be held updated with all new facts from all parts of the alliance as they happen in real-time. We are talking about a timespan of a few hours here. The temporary confusion that comes naturally with a shift in command is something an enemy entity would naturally exploit. However, we did not expect it from a long-term friend and ally. Dawn Razor, Diplomat
Achaiah Black Bag Ops	Posted - 2007.04.18 06:24:00 - [38] I don’t know the story behind this, but from the outside it sure looks like a hostile take over based on greed, a lack of targets and some ego issues. As far as I know, the Kali regions are fairly stable with alliances that are friendly to each other. To make a faction that has friends in those regions and bookmarks all over the place, as well as showing the other alliances that you are ready to walk all over your neighbors because you consider them weak by your standards, is hardly something that further stability in the area. It can’t be cost effective as well, if not security is compromised. TRE obviously has pilots that mine, rat and manufacture stuff, something that strengthens the market in the area. On top of that they have (or had) friendly relations with their neighbors. Not only are you showing your neighbors that you are willing to attack even if you are friendly, which decreases the value of your friendship, but you kick out a group of people that actually are good for the economy. Will RULE mine, rat and manufacture oh so much more to compensate for the loss of people doing that in that area (and to cover the cost of the towers), or will they start to recruit new corps that always bring with them the risk of spies and odd personal relationships to all kinds of corps and alliances? With that said.. 2 POS holding sov is something that should make any neighbor concerned. But to conquer it should be far down on the list on things to do if you want to try to hold some kind of odd moral highground on the forums (you are saving the region from likely POS spamming attacks from BoB/MC/Triumvirate!?) From here it looks like you simply felt you could steal a station at a reasonable ISK cost and couldn’t care less that blue forces own the station.
Akashha Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.04.18 06:41:00 - [39] Rule of three has been War mongering for quite some time in the new regions they are the biggest threat to the other alliances out there, not to mention theyre war mongering against other blue alliances like PURE and Astral wolves. i sincerely hope that proper actions are taken and standings to be reset against them.
Pride NL Dominators	Posted - 2007.04.18 06:48:00 - [40] Seems they all disagree with eachother. A classic way to start a war. I bet we will see blood splatters driving in space soon! And much of it! Arrive. Raise Hell. Leave.

Eldwinn STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.18 06:49:00 - [41] Originally by: Akashha Rule of three has been War mongering for quite some time in the new regions they are the biggest threat to the other alliances out there, not to mention theyre war mongering against other blue alliances like PURE and Astral wolves. i sincerely hope that proper actions are taken and standings to be reset against them. Is that the offical stance of the Royal Amarr Institute?
Kai page coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.18 07:21:00 - [42] I bet Helen had soemthign to do with this :p (cats ftw btw)- Sahwoolo Etoophie
Oppus Edea Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.04.18 09:09:00 - [43] Sad to see how RULE "friendship" works. Let other alliances take note of how RULE treats allies and friends. That being said, looking forward to some good PVP.
Dekiri Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.18 09:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Twoside Guys, take this discussion off CAOD and sort it in the appropriate channels. Debating on here is pointless and tbh, rather dissapointing from both of your ends. Why the hell? This is at least a bit entertaining. You guys really have no sense of humor. --------------------------------- My dad can beat up your dad!
Draahk Chimera Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.04.18 09:21:00 - [45] Yay, someone is shooting someone in drone regions.
Tomas Ysidro Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.18 09:54:00 - [46] I for one just twitched at the thought of 11 hours of diplomatic talks
Venix An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:06:00 - [47] Originally by: Tomas Ysidro I for one just twitched at the thought of 11 hours of diplomatic talks 11 hours just today, we have been at this for 3 weeks. Ni4Ni Join Ni4Ni Today! Public Channel: Ni4Ni
goober	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:11:00 - [48] obviously literacy is not a requirement in the eve universe. RULE is being accused of making a land grab and shooting blues. if you are capable of reading, u know these accusations are not true. Tre there was not 1 shot fired until Tre told RULE they would be set as hostile. so naturally, Tre were set hostile to RULE. only then did RULE engage. i dont think any 0.0 corp or alliance would hesitate to omgwtfpwn a hostile alliance only 6 jumps from their home system. no hard feelings Tre. i sincerely hope u put up a good fight. teh goob
Akashha Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:36:00 - [49] I think its quite obvious goober that when u find 12 POS's in youre main system is considered worse then shooting down one blue ship and also considered an extremly hostile act.
Venix An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:37:00 - [50] ^ goober is in rule, he doesnt have his stuff turned on. If you chould give him a chance before you mod. Ni4Ni Join Ni4Ni Today! Public Channel: Ni4Ni

Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:42:00 - [51] I have a question, did RULE spam the POSs before or after they set TRE red? Did you position your POSs in the TRE outpost using your standings with them as friendlies at the time in preparation to spam their system? Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Achaiah Black Bag Ops	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:43:00 - [52] Originally by: goober Edited by: goober on 18/04/2007 10:18:08 obviously literacy is not a requirement in the eve universe. RULE is being accused of making a land grab and shooting blues. if you are capable of reading, u know these accusations are not true. there was not 1 shot fired until Tre told RULE they would be set as hostile. so naturally, Tre were set hostile to RULE. only then did RULE engage. i dont think any 0.0 corp or alliance would hesitate to omgwtfpwn a hostile alliance only 6 jumps from their home system. no hard feelings Tre. i sincerely hope u put up a good fight. teh goob I don't know how it works in your literate part of the Eve universe, but in most other places it is an act of war to POS spam another alliances station-systems. I would say that its a good bet that most alliances rather have their pilots attacked then their sovereignty.
Akashha Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:44:00 - [53] Bien that is correct
Akashha Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:46:00 - [54] They used the friendship of TRE to scout Our POS's and deploy theyres when most of the swedish people were offline and sleeping.
Cartiff Darwin With Attitude RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:51:00 - [55] stamms kool Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why -Sahwoolo "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
Bloedkopp Minmatar Simian Cell Systems	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:57:00 - [56] So IKEA pulls out of Drone Land ?
AlvynNevins Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:58:00 - [57] 11 hours of diplomatic talking (and another 3 weeks before that?). You guys must have too much time Placing more towers in that system is the only way to keep enemies out i think. That's why i try blow every neutral ship up that crosses my way, he might be my enemy soon. - Can't drink as much as i want to puke, sometimes.
Possesive Caldari GALAXIAN Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.18 11:00:00 - [58] Originally by: Akashha They used the friendship of TRE to scout Our POS's and deploy theyres when most of the swedish people were offline and sleeping. Now that we know you're a TRE pilot, you shouldnt have any difficulty posting with your main.
Frygok Minmatar Black Lance NBSI Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.18 11:06:00 - [59] Smacking and mocking in local is not the most classy way to end a friendship and taking over sov in a system that until recently was controlled by friends though. Calling it a defense of own interest is all well and good, but laughing about taking over ex-friends space in local seems to contradict that a bit. I am not involved in this personally though, so I'll wish both alliances good luck and happy shooting.
Venix An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.18 11:20:00 - [60] Edited by: Venix on 18/04/2007 11:23:10 Edited by: Venix on 18/04/2007 11:17:35 Originally by: Frygok Smacking and mocking in local is not the most classy way to end a friendship and taking over sov in a system that until recently was controlled by friends though. Calling it a defense of own interest is all well and good, but laughing about taking over ex-friends space in local seems to contradict that a bit. I am not involved in this personally though, so I'll wish both alliances good luck and happy shooting. When the hell did NBSI come back? Is DJ still there? You know RULE is a bunch of Ex-NBSI dont ya? Anyway, the local was done by 2-3 of the newer alliance members and they were asked to stop, but persisted. RULE does not approve of local smack nor have we ever done it. I am sorry for letting people feel as if we had poor intentions in local, as it was not ment. Reasoning for taking the station we have made clear. Security. We offered tre full rights to everything including our space, we just control the station and they said no. We are very close to more hostiles then people think, so an outpost covered with 2 towers is not acceptable. Any noob alliance can steamroll 2 towers and setup 12 more. We didnt want that to happen and then have to remove them. Ni4Ni Join Ni4Ni Today! Public Channel: Ni4Ni



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