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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.24 04:10:00 -
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That about sums it up. All ravens. All cloaked and safed.
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Mista Sexamalicious
Sexa Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.24 04:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mista Sexamalicious on 24/04/2007 04:13:24 I would say, and this is just of the top of my head now mind you, 'That is why that system sucks!'
BTW. There are another 4,999+ other systems out there. SEXEH!
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.24 04:27:00 -
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But they're all the same. At least in Fountain.
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Elliott Manchild
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 04:39:00 -
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Venal is infested with chinese ISK farmers. They always ss and cloak or log soon as anyone comes local then start doing symbols in local. Theres one at least every other jump. Joke really.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat Edited by: Nicocat on 24/04/2007 04:24:30 Linkage
That about sums it up. All ravens. All cloaked and safed.
0.0 sucks for many reasons, yours being a good one. My main issue is I get so bored just ratting out here, that I want to shove my head through my moniter... on a daily basis.
-Karl
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Max Mentor
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Nicocat Edited by: Nicocat on 24/04/2007 04:24:30 Linkage
That about sums it up. All ravens. All cloaked and safed.
0.0 sucks for many reasons, yours being a good one. My main issue is I get so bored just ratting out here, that I want to shove my head through my moniter... on a daily basis.
-Karl
Dont knock it. Try listening to people talk about loyalty points and mission setups in Empire. Rather have fun with ma sister. |
Exid Rihal
Gallente The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:31:00 -
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Edited by: Exid Rihal on 24/04/2007 06:29:12 Assuming you know the general location, grab a bunch of interceptors and fly around at 10k or somethin and see if you can get close enuf to uncloak em. Odds are they are 150km and below hehe.
Never tried it :P but how bout equip mad FOF range missles, with rapid launch and start launchin em every-which way ;D Wonder if that would work.
With that many cloaked, I am 900% sure, if you get a gang ready @ one gate outside the system, grab two iteron II's and bait em :P I'm sure you can get a few of them before they run :D
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:32:00 -
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You just need to hit lots of systems and get lucky.
Or you could try sticking a cloaker alt in their system for a while. -
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Exid Rihal Edited by: Exid Rihal on 24/04/2007 06:29:12 Assuming you know the general location, grab a bunch of interceptors and fly around at 10k or somethin and see if you can get close enuf to uncloak em. Odds are they are 150km and below hehe.
Never tried it :P but how bout equip mad FOF range missles, with rapid launch and start launchin em every-which way ;D Wonder if that would work.
With that many cloaked, I am 900% sure, if you get a gang ready @ one gate outside the system, grab two iteron II's and bait em :P I'm sure you can get a few of them before they run :D
All in safes, bub.
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:50:00 -
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We are doing our best to nail em too. Certain areas of Fountain are absolutely infested.
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Hesed
Amarr Hamartia.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:54:00 -
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Technically, they can't cloak while an npc is targetting them, so you just have to get to the belts sooner.
Which means: -Use faster, lighter ships. -Use them warp rig thingies. -Target smaller systems. -Use more aggressive intel measures.
Don't restrict yourself to ransoming targets that have been scrambled? I don't know why anyone pays a sub just to sit out of the game, so ransom them for the permission to undock/un-ss/uncloak.
But yes, it's stupid. If you have hp damage or something, you should not be able to cloak.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 06:57:00 -
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We are doing our best to nail em too. Certain areas of Fountain are absolutely infested. I just had an evel idea which, although ecxpensive and elaborate, might just be a fun passtime.
In each belt anchor a medium bubble. Leave sytem. Wait a minute or two. Jump in and send a gang memmber to as many belts as possible. IN theory the macroes will not realise they are in a bubble at all and even if they try to warp off they should still be a sitting duck in one of the bubbles.
Of course this solution is impractical but if you are determined I am sure it would produce results.
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.24 07:04:00 -
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I shoulda mentioned, I'm in a dictor. Just about the fastest thing out there =P Go Sabre. As for ransoming them to keep ratting, we tried that once. They paid out .10 isk to each of us. Unfortunately, since we're not macroers, we can't afford to sit there all day 23/7. But it makes for a good argument for an alt in a recon ship just sitting there cloaked all day...
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
mematar
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.24 07:28:00 -
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It is exactly same in Curse, Great Wildlands, Drone Regions and around there. You enter system -> everyone goes to safe and cloaks or logs..
NERF CLOAK or extend the time they stay in space without aggro.
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Audemed
Wraiths Reborn Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned We are doing our best to nail em too. Certain areas of Fountain are absolutely infested. I just had an evel idea which, although ecxpensive and elaborate, might just be a fun passtime.
In each belt anchor a medium bubble. Leave sytem. Wait a minute or two. Jump in and send a gang memmber to as many belts as possible. IN theory the macroes will not realise they are in a bubble at all and even if they try to warp off they should still be a sitting duck in one of the bubbles.
Of course this solution is impractical but if you are determined I am sure it would produce results.
That's actually a pretty cool idea if you can get the people to do it. ------ Currently stationed in Iraq, 190 days left to go!
PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login.
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.24 08:43:00 -
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Meh, we've caught them before, you just have to be fast about it.
Of course it sucks that they do it in the first place, but it's not impossible to get rid of them by force. ------
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Kather
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.24 08:43:00 -
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i used to be in fountain, yet never flew a raven or cloaked.
maybe i was missing out
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.24 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 24/04/2007 14:57:24 After a few hours of careful planning, I caught one of them one day. Got all hot and bothered, called for firepower in corp chat, and got my yarr on.
Then I discovered they also have stabs.
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Slax Kalimatar
Minmatar Cyber Rebels
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Posted - 2007.04.24 15:36:00 -
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Fit a 2p scram instead of 1?
anyway.. dont change the cloak... will only nerf the recon force and covertops more and specially the stealth bomber.
or change the cloak to: can only fitted on covertops/stealth bomber and recon force without a penalty.
the penaly for the ships that are not covops/stealth bomb/recon force: same as when u fit stabs. -50% target range -50% target strength or warp inital time increase to 100%.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.24 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Max Mentor
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Nicocat Edited by: Nicocat on 24/04/2007 04:24:30 Linkage
That about sums it up. All ravens. All cloaked and safed.
0.0 sucks for many reasons, yours being a good one. My main issue is I get so bored just ratting out here, that I want to shove my head through my moniter... on a daily basis.
-Karl
Dont knock it. Try listening to people talk about loyalty points and mission setups in Empire. Rather have fun with ma sister.
Yeah, true enough. At least in empire I can pirate freely without traveling 20 jumps to do so.
-Karl
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
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Christopher Dalran
Gallente Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 24/04/2007 15:37:42 I'm sorry but the real problem is Local chat showing who is in the system, local chat can stay but the list of who is in it needs to disappear.
If you CBA to put someone on the gates to watch them then you dont deserve to know if someone is passing through. Also if you CBA to check the system or scann around then you dont deserve to know if a target is in the system either.
Such a change would not Hurt anyone, it would provide benefits and penalties to all parties. It could hide miners/ratters and pirates alike. (Ie. Cloaked gang member watching the gates telling their gang when they need to warp off and cloak). ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.24 15:49:00 -
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No point in nerfing cloaking. They'll just go back to logging out.
Logging out is still the win button of eve.
Shamis
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.24 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Dalran Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 24/04/2007 15:37:42 I'm sorry but the real problem is Local chat showing who is in the system, local chat can stay but the list of who is in it needs to disappear.
If you CBA to put someone on the gates to watch them then you dont deserve to know if someone is passing through. Also if you CBA to check the system or scann around then you dont deserve to know if a target is in the system either.
Such a change would not Hurt anyone, it would provide benefits and penalties to all parties. It could hide miners/ratters and pirates alike. (Ie. Cloaked gang member watching the gates telling their gang when they need to warp off and cloak).
/signed
Local should be like alliance chat. People only show up if they talk/type in local.
-Karl
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Agent Li
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2007.04.24 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Max Mentor Dont knock it. Try listening to people talk about loyalty points and mission setups in Empire. Rather have fun with ma sister.
Yes, your sister is a lot of fun [/sarcasm]
But what I hate in 0.0 is the occasional gate camp.
If it's well run, I just don't have the means to survive one. "Don't be afraid to take advantage of your enemy's weaknesses. Becasuse winning is everything after all." |
Portios Smith
DNR Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Christopher Dalran Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 24/04/2007 15:37:42 I'm sorry but the real problem is Local chat showing who is in the system, local chat can stay but the list of who is in it needs to disappear.
If you CBA to put someone on the gates to watch them then you dont deserve to know if someone is passing through. Also if you CBA to check the system or scann around then you dont deserve to know if a target is in the system either.
Such a change would not Hurt anyone, it would provide benefits and penalties to all parties. It could hide miners/ratters and pirates alike. (Ie. Cloaked gang member watching the gates telling their gang when they need to warp off and cloak).
/signed
Local should be like alliance chat. People only show up if they talk/type in local.
-Karl
/signed
Local takes away to much potential from EVE, it should be made just like alliance chat.
This sig was made for hijack - Timmeh
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.24 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Portios Smith
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Christopher Dalran Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 24/04/2007 15:37:42 I'm sorry but the real problem is Local chat showing who is in the system, local chat can stay but the list of who is in it needs to disappear.
If you CBA to put someone on the gates to watch them then you dont deserve to know if someone is passing through. Also if you CBA to check the system or scann around then you dont deserve to know if a target is in the system either.
Such a change would not Hurt anyone, it would provide benefits and penalties to all parties. It could hide miners/ratters and pirates alike. (Ie. Cloaked gang member watching the gates telling their gang when they need to warp off and cloak).
/signed
Local should be like alliance chat. People only show up if they talk/type in local.
-Karl
/signed
Local takes away to much potential from EVE, it should be made just like alliance chat.
I used to be against taking local away, since it helps avoid the 100-AU-system-with-noone-in-it-but-you-can't-be-sure problem. But the more I see this isk farmer logging/cloaking ****, the more I'm for it...
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Elspeth Vigneron
Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned We are doing our best to nail em too. Certain areas of Fountain are absolutely infested. I just had an evel idea which, although ecxpensive and elaborate, might just be a fun passtime.
In each belt anchor a medium bubble. Leave sytem. Wait a minute or two. Jump in and send a gang memmber to as many belts as possible. IN theory the macroes will not realise they are in a bubble at all and even if they try to warp off they should still be a sitting duck in one of the bubbles.
Of course this solution is impractical but if you are determined I am sure it would produce results.
I could see this being part of a practical solution if you're really dedicated to running sweeps and cleaning a system. If you're just looking for some easy macro gankage without putting some time into it... Then maybe not.
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Plaetean
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Portios Smith
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Christopher Dalran Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 24/04/2007 15:37:42 I'm sorry but the real problem is Local chat showing who is in the system, local chat can stay but the list of who is in it needs to disappear.
If you CBA to put someone on the gates to watch them then you dont deserve to know if someone is passing through. Also if you CBA to check the system or scann around then you dont deserve to know if a target is in the system either.
Such a change would not Hurt anyone, it would provide benefits and penalties to all parties. It could hide miners/ratters and pirates alike. (Ie. Cloaked gang member watching the gates telling their gang when they need to warp off and cloak).
/signed
Local should be like alliance chat. People only show up if they talk/type in local.
-Karl
/signed
Local takes away to much potential from EVE, it should be made just like alliance chat.
/SIGNED. seriously, this would make eve so much more fun, actually having to use your brain to find out who is in the system with you, rather than it automatically being told to you.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Vendetta Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.24 19:40:00 -
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During one of the patches, local was plain bust for a few hours...it was both terrifying and exhilirating at the same time...who was in local? Who knew? One of the better little hiccoughs.
I highly support making it just like alliance chat..nobody speaks, nobody shows up. Would make looking for war targets a pain in the behind, but would also make them looking for us absurdly difficult.
Now, where is my /signed button....
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Does a lot of shooting for a miner. I've joined the dark side, they had cookies.
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Raal Throx
Minmatar Clausewitz Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: warpod use logon trap send gang member to every belt in the system and logoff
wait 10 mins and logon
profit
Hehe word, can even do it solo, depending on system and if you are fast with the scanner see what belt they where last at.
Warp there if rats there, log wait 4-6 min and logon, hehe works 50/50 doing it solo and great fun.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Red Storm Vendetta
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Posted - 2007.04.24 19:44:00 -
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Aye. not much you can do excatly. Sucks royal ass lol.
Remember however, they are there because people BUY the isk, or they convert it into GTC's.
Thats the real crime :(
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Psorion
Caldari Absolute Wrath Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 13:37:00 -
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Wow, cant keep Nerfing things u cant figure out how to use. As a player that moved from empire to .0 I can say cloaking and Local work great. It doesnt help to 'nerf' them.
1: Cloaking already nerfs your ship. Every cloak a raven? You travel at like 13.5m/s I've been able to avoid enemy gate camps because I was smart enought to have WCS and Cloak on my ship. Now its not 'easy' to travel away from 10+ ships, 10km in a bubble, at 13.5 m/s. makes for an exciting game as you wait the 10 minutes it takes to get out of the bubble. As far as someone 'cloaked and Safespotted, AFK', so what? They cant warp unless they are covert-ops, so they are safe spotted, but they have no real offensive abilities, ie: -0 threat.
2: Changing the way local operates. Do you really want to not have info about that mob that just jumped into the system you were in alone, while ratting? I think it would imbalance the game to be blinded with local, but have the ship scanner remain functions that are usable.
Local is great Cloaking is great Its not an I=Win button. get over it..
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n0thing
Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 15:34:00 -
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Those who said above that 0.0 is boring or etc due to people ss and run away, well, ofc im not talking about all those npc-23/7 guys. But normally if you dont like 0.0, thats rather because you cant expect same level of careless behaviour as you can see in low-sec sometimes.
If you came to fight into no-sec go hang near chokepoints and war-zones. Youll certainly find some small scale combat for sure. I have no lack of it at least. ---
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Buck Starchaser
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:28:00 -
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I think recon ships were built for that sole reason. If you're in system for a while and nobody can find you on scanner they will eventually get bored of loafing around (or if they are sweatshop miners their boss will get irritated at the loss of income) and either they will go back to what they're doing or leave. Now that I think of it though the amount of skills to fit a cloaking raven with WCS that can rat in 0.0 is low enough that when they log out they are probably just logging in to an alt with the same skills and fitting in another system... ok, now that is a problem Ślocal and cloak are not broken though, leave them allone. the problem is macros and sweatshops or whatever fantasy is the popular accusation these days. kill people not games
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:48:00 -
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Well, either I'm getting better, or they're getting dumber. I'm catching them more recently, but at a cost. *sniffs for his Sabres* Whatever y'all are doing to scare the dumb ones away from your regions, keep it up =P
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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jimmyjam
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Raal Throx
Originally by: warpod use logon trap send gang member to every belt in the system and logoff
wait 10 mins and logon
profit
Hehe word, can even do it solo, depending on system and if you are fast with the scanner see what belt they where last at.
Warp there if rats there, log wait 4-6 min and logon, hehe works 50/50 doing it solo and great fun.
The logon trap is lame.
Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, |
Onstra Deluth
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Posted - 2007.04.27 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Onstra Deluth on 27/04/2007 17:13:02
Originally by: jimmyjam
The logon trap is lame.
No its not. You're lame. Here's to a fantastic tactic that has landed many the diligent isk farmer.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.04.27 20:09:00 -
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I think the most practical solution is to do two things:
1) Remove local or make it "Recent Speakers". 2) Remove belts and static plexes and replace them with exploration sites.
It would only work if both were done, I think.
Sanctions, embargoes and blockades- discuss PVP with ISK! |
Destr0math
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Posted - 2007.04.27 20:57:00 -
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get noob alts in rifters with prototype cloaks and put them in systems with lots of cloaked ratters.
go to work / school / sleep etc.
watch as their profits vanish - can't risk you being in a recon, or if they do risk it, pay attention and use the rifter to scan them down and tackle, then gank the everloving s*** out of them.
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Chia Mulholland
Mulholland Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:04:00 -
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A ship fitted for PvP will most likely beat an equivalent ship fitted for ratting. An agressor will most likely beat an equivalent ship defending because the agressor can pick the time and place of a fight.
There's a reason people in Ravens run instead of staying to fight. They know they'll most likely lose.
Maybe having people show up in local makes it too easy to defend yourself. But if it's removed, every fight will go to the agressor. And if people ratting lose too many ships they'll move back to empire and run missions instead. Or quit.
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Urduar
UrdCorp Enterprises Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:10:00 -
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Actually, the Corss guys aren't really the same as other insta-logging Raven farmers... They do farm, so I guess they're technically farmers, and I think they're Chinese, but there's a few differences:
1) Most don't fly Ravens, they fly semi-pvp fit Domis.. including warp scramblers. 2) They don't (or at least didn't used to) do insta-log, rather if you attack one you'll see all of them come mob you (there's over ten of them, so this can be a big problem if you're solo or small gang hunting) 3) They do pvp, as in actual flying around in a gang hunting for targets. I've been in gangs with them hunting around Fountain.
If anything, the Corss guys blur the line between real players and farmers, I'm not sure what to categorize them as since generally true farmers never pvp unless they absolutely have to, and certainly never go hunting in gangs. But I can say that I've fought against and with them, and though they initially appear to be typical farmers, they're closer to just being real players that happen to be on all the time.
*shrug*
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Vantras
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.27 21:43:00 -
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I love the fact that we have pirate types both complaining about cloakers and pleading that afk cloaking (cloaks) NOT get nerfed.
Two competing threads, two sets of whines, opposite sides of the same issue. One from the side of the hunter the other from the hunted.
Personally afk cloaking NEEDS to go...
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n0thing
Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins I think the most practical solution is to do two things:
1) Remove local or make it "Recent Speakers". 2) Remove belts and static plexes and replace them with exploration sites.
It would only work if both were done, I think.
Ok, so first one completly kills no-sec solo due to blobs/gangs/camps and second takes down 0.0 profiting only for cov ops trained pilots?
Id rather go and do lvl 4`s. ---
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Baaldor
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Christopher Dalran Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 24/04/2007 15:37:42
/signed
Local should be like alliance chat. People only show up if they talk/type in local.
-Karl
/signed
Try this....Go into a Lo Sec and close your local...it goes against every thing you have been told but try it. I ran from Otou to Nein to Amamake with out local up. Oh by the way we are at war with the Priva*****s for added spice to the trip. It was nerve racking at first but then you start to notice it becomes more fun as you progress and very focused...
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Mista Sexamalicious
Sexa Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:57:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Baaldor
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Christopher Dalran Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 24/04/2007 15:37:42
/signed
Local should be like alliance chat. People only show up if they talk/type in local.
-Karl
/signed
Try this....Go into a Lo Sec and close your local...it goes against every thing you have been told but try it. I ran from Otou to Nein to Amamake with out local up. Oh by the way we are at war with the Priva*****s for added spice to the trip. It was nerve racking at first but then you start to notice it becomes more fun as you progress and very focused...
I couldn't agree more TBH.
That's exactly how I choose to play now. It puts that edge back in Eve.
You learn so much more so much faster using the scanner than you do using local. ( I wish they would also get rid of the local count on the minimized tab also). Kinda takes a little something away knowing that there is more than one other person in local with you.
SEXEH!
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Linium
Without Reason
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:27:00 -
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I fail to see why a skilled covert pilot can't catch them, my scan time is down to 32 seconds. This means that even if they log off the second i enter local i can still catch them. Try to pin roughly where there SS is by spamming the scan button and having planets etc on scanner, there is good chance that they may even unclock each other if they gang warp to the SS. The same technique can be used to catch people with no aggro who log at POS, just sit off grid to the POS or their rough SS and drop a probe the second local drops, just activate any module on them and they now don't dissapear. ----------------------------------------------------
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n0thing
Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:32:00 -
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Well, removing local will not make you focused, it will rather enforce people to fly in blobs even more. No way I am going to no-sec solo with having a 100% bigger chance of being tackled/cloaked and etc.
If now you can have a fair fighting group with 5-10 ppl and one scout, now youll need alot of more scouts and alot more numbers to lower the enemy-blob-ambush chance.
Not to mention that 0.0 will turn into Cloaker Online with people flying recons/cov ops to prevent gankage. ---
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Linium I fail to see why a skilled covert pilot can't catch them, my scan time is down to 32 seconds. This means that even if they log off the second i enter local i can still catch them.
Great. And then you can take down 20% of their shields before the disappear. Quite handy.
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.28 19:55:00 -
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As a pirate I'm going to say this. Removing local would kill low sec piracy.
Local gives the illusion of safety. It allows the non-inclined PvP player to feel somewhat safer. Warp to 0 also serves this function.
Remove local and you will see all the nice juicy targets disappear. It is proven that people will almost always choose the safer option.
Then it'll just be pirates shooting pirates, until they get bored of low sec's low profitablity and move to 0.0.
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n0thing
Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.04.28 22:34:00 -
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Only change imo that would not harm stuff too much is swapping local to constellation(or whatever its spelled) chat. Like if local gonna be nerfed, then at least simply turn it into group-system visual, that way you both need scouts to determine forces layout but still cant actually get surprise-ganked. ---
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.29 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: DeadProphet on 29/04/2007 01:34:34 farming is out of control
all over 0.0, drone regions are infested, fountain is infested, curse is infested, tenerifis blah blah blah BLAH
so yes, i believe cloaks on non cloaky ships need a nerfing.
everywhere you go is instasafe cloaking ravens. and no i don't need to 'learn to scan faster omg' its pure luck if the belt happens to be right by you, so you can physically get to the belt before he leaves.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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