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Random Incarnate
Australia and New Zealand Eve Corp Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.02 08:16:00 -
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Apparently EW drones aren't stacking nerfed...
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.04 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 04/01/2008 11:46:57
Originally by: MwillyC Firstly fantastic guide thanks! Quick Q on Sensor dampeners and the stacking penalty. I understand how it works if I have multiple dampeners fitted to my ship, but does it apply if 3 individual ships each fitted with one dampener, target a single ship? or do they all reduce the target ships locking range by the full strength of their respective modules. Thanks again for a great guide.
Basically all effects for stacking penalties get counted on every target separately. Meaning, if you damp 3 different ships with 3 different dampeners of yours, then assuming, that no one else is dampening those 3 ships, you will get full efficiency on each of your dampeners.
Quote: What I wonder is if I use say sensor damp drones, what gets counted first? I mean if 2 drones damps to some few %. Then I add a 3rd dampener does it get 0.57 stacking penalty? Cause I don't want drones to steal the most effective spot.
As it is stated in the guide, all of the multipliers active get sorted in descending order. Meaning, strongest first, weakest last.
Quote: One time I actually experience someone not beeing damped as much as I anticipated at that time there was another guy in gang with totally unbonused damps dampening aswell. But I might have had to much alcohol on that occasion.
I'd blame the booze.
Originally by: Random Incarnate Apparently EW drones aren't stacking nerfed...
Last I tried they were. I see no reason why they would not be, as CCP would have to specifically make the drones multipliers not get stack nerfed, which would result in more coding efforts. I don't see how that makes sense.
Pretty easy to test though.
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sharp as
VITOC
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Posted - 2008.01.08 02:33:00 -
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Do damps and ecm stack with the Ewar drone of the same type?
sharpy
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Requiescat
True Foundation
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Posted - 2008.01.08 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa
6. Target Painting
Counters: None
Relatively inexpensive Halo implants reduce your sig radius
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.01.08 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: sharp as Do damps and ecm stack with the Ewar drone of the same type?
sharpy
ECM doesn't stack, damps do of course.
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Quadrapodazone
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Posted - 2008.01.16 19:41:00 -
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Awesome guide...thank you so much!
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.19 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 19/01/2008 19:09:42
Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: Ryysa
6. Target Painting
Counters: None
Relatively inexpensive Halo implants reduce your sig radius
They don't directly counter painters though, they just increase your sig radius. And the reduction from halo implants is iirc less/about the same as one painter applied with skills.
It's the same as saying, long range targeting skill is counter to sensor dampeners. It's not.
Also, lol @ "Relatively inexpensive". I'd say that relatively to the cost of 1 target painter, halo implants are extremely expensive :)
Originally by: Quadrapodazone Awesome guide...thank you so much!
<3
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.12 23:40:00 -
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Updated: Scripts. Heavy Interdictors. Interceptor bonuses.
Reports of any mistake appreciated as always.
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Don Jehova
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.14 00:31:00 -
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First of all, excellent guide.
There is a tiny flaw i the ecm formula: "C = (1-(1-J/S)^n)*100%" should be: C = (1-((1-J)/S)^n)*100%
Could'nt get it too work so got out my math book and want over the binomial probabilities, only to find out the only wrong thing was a missing parenthesis (After studying for about an hour :-/). Will probably do me good when the exams come though. ______________________________________________________________
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Random Incarnate
Australia and New Zealand Eve Corp Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.14 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa Edited by: Ryysa on 12/02/2008 23:50:45 P.S. I found that about this just a bit ago. So, if you think I am worthy, vote ;)
I voted. 
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.19 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Don Jehova First of all, excellent guide.
There is a tiny flaw i the ecm formula: "C = (1-(1-J/S)^n)*100%" should be: C = (1-((1-J)/S)^n)*100%
Could'nt get it too work so got out my math book and want over the binomial probabilities, only to find out the only wrong thing was a missing parenthesis (After studying for about an hour :-/). Will probably do me good when the exams come though.
Haha... oops... fixed, thanks for pointing that out.
Originally by: Random Incarnate I voted. 
Thanks :P
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Ksidyn
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Posted - 2008.02.20 04:24:00 -
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Great guide! Extremely useful.
Two things though
1) The bonus the ECM target jammer strength for the T1 ships is 15% per level not 10%
2) You are missing the Kitsune for ships that use ECM. 20% bonus to jamming strength and 10% bonus to ECM cap usage per caladari frigate 10% bonus to ECM optimal range and 5% increase to capacitor capacity per electronic attack skill Thanks again!
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.20 10:29:00 -
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The bonuses got changed, and have not been updated indeed.
I also miss all the other EW frigates from my guide. Need to fix that...
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Natasha Quoirassonne
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Posted - 2008.04.17 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa Deductions - If the bubble is not in the same grid as object B, then nothing will happen
Thanks for clearing this up for me - I had been wondering why bubbles were never set up somewhere in between gates, as this would make escape by going through the gate impossible. |

Kayoss
HeartVenom Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 07:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kayoss on 17/04/2008 07:02:08 Very nice Guide. Thanks for putting this together.
This should get a sticky!! |

Ryysa
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.05 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Natasha Quoirassonne Let me see if I got this straight: If line A-B does NOT intersect the bubble's sphere, the traveling ship will not end up in the bubble, even if the bubble is on grid with B - correct?
Correct.
Quote: And one last question: Is this sorting order done automatically by Eve, or do I have to do it?
Automatic.
Originally by: Ryysa If I interpret this right, point (b) could be deleted, as it would not be specific to the focused warp disruption script. This would make a few characters of room for future edits.
Focused warp disruption is activated on one target, it is not a bubble. It is just a point with infinite strength.
Quote: There is one slight copy&paste error I caught - you write: Originally by: Ryysa There are two scripts which can be used with dampeners.
in section "5. Tracking Disrupting".
Fixed.
Quote: It is a pity that you left Eve; I hope you will be back one day.
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mirage658584
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Posted - 2008.05.06 07:18:00 -
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I don't know if it has been mentioned but your ECM section has a few errors in the ship listing.
Falcon and Rook get 20% jammer strength/recon level Scorpion gets 15% per bs level Blackbird also gets 15% per cruiser level Griffin gets 15% per frig level
Kitsune is missing: Caldari Frigate Skill Bonus: 20% bonus to ECM target jammer strength and 10% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level
Electronic Attack Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to ECM target jammer optimal range and 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level
And the Widow: Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to cruise and siege missile launcher rate of fire and 10% bonus to cruise missile and torpedo velocity per level
Black Ops Skill Bonus: 20% bonus to ECM target jammer strength and multiplies the cloaked velocity by 125% per level
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Ryysa
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.06 17:20:00 -
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Yeah, it's on the todo list... |

afflikshoN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 04:23:00 -
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Hope this gets stickied sometime soon - great guide. |

Ryysa
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.07 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 07/05/2008 11:07:05
Originally by: afflikshoN Hope this gets stickied sometime soon - great guide.
It hasn't been stickied in about a year, since CCP changed their "stickifying" policy on the S&M (ships and modules of course) forum. So I doubt it ;)
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Kis Kecheri
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Posted - 2008.05.24 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: Kis Kecheri on 24/05/2008 12:34:00 Policy or not, this is one of the best EvE guides around.
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Depopulo
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Posted - 2008.06.12 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Depopulo on 12/06/2008 15:29:34 So lets say I have 2 Grav target jammers each with a jam strength 10 and 2 jammers each with a Grav jam strength of 5. I them attempt to jam a BS with a grav sensor strength of 20. In a nutshell the the first 2 jammers will each have a 50% chance of a successful jam and the second 2 will have each have a 25% chance of a successful jam. Is this correct?? Sorry if I'm stating the obvious..just want to make sure I understand it correectly. |

Random Incarnate
Australia and New Zealand Eve Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.13 11:25:00 -
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Yes, that is right.
The (1-(J/S)^n)*100 is only for calculating overall jam chance with multiple jammers
With your 2 10 strength jammers, you'd have a 75% chance to jam the BS, overall. |

RedScorpion777
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Posted - 2008.08.05 18:37:00 -
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Please clarify for me. Is it possible to breake the lock with ECM burst on target Mega sensor strength: 21 ECM burst 6.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:16:00 -
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That info on Scrambling was priceless, you could have possibly just saved a future ship of mine.
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Ryysa
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: RedScorpion777 Please clarify for me. Is it possible to breake the lock with ECM burst on target Mega sensor strength: 21 ECM burst 6.
yes.
You have a chance of 6/21*100% = 28.57% to break the mega's lock.
Originally by: Jerid Verges That info on Scrambling was priceless, you could have possibly just saved a future ship of mine.
Glad I was of help :) EW Guide - KB Tool - My Music |

Konrad Kurr
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Posted - 2008.09.21 08:03:00 -
[207]
Great guide and bump to the first page so as not to lose it.
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Ryysa
Paisti
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Posted - 2008.09.27 21:02:00 -
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Mh, if anyone feels like updating/fixing some parts, feel free to contact me via my website (My Music in my sig).
Glad it's still of use to people 1.5 year later. EW Guide - Music Downloader - My Music |

Rez Drazdir
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Posted - 2008.10.04 11:57:00 -
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Gr8 one! so happy i found it :D tnx Ryysa! |

Forum Chav
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Posted - 2008.10.06 20:03:00 -
[210]
worthy bump
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