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CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:10:00 - [1] Just before the regular downtime today, we discovered an exploit. Due to this we decided to extend the downtime until the exploit could be fixed, and any damage caused by it be reversed. We were successful in both these goals and Tranquility is now back up and running. We could not disclose the true nature of the extended downtime, as that might have notified the exploiters. We hope you accept our apologies for the vague announcement, and for any inconvenience this extended downtime may have caused you. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:13:00 - [2] Since its fixed now mind telling us what the exploit was? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:13:00 - [3] Any chance we could get some information on what the exploit was now that its fixed? Just out of curiosity, of course; it shouldn't matter since it no longer exists. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio
Laserotaku Brotherhood of Polar Equation Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:13:00 - [4] Edited by: Laserotaku on 26/04/2007 14:09:50 PLEASE dont tell, its better that way

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:15:00 - [5] Our policy is not to discuss exploits, but be assured that it was fixed and the exploiters has been dealt with by our friendly neighbourhood GMs. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ


Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:16:00 - [6] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Our policy is not to discuss exploits, but be assured that it was fixed and the exploiters has been dealt with by our friendly neighbourhood GMs. Thats what i like to hear hope they got what was comming to them.... - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| [email protected] \| ME They call me Hutch. I have forgotten why

WhitePhantom Gallente Edenists	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:16:00 - [7] We only need to know it was fixed, perhaps what it effected would be nice, but us being in the dark is best. Bugs should be handled the same way as exploits.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:20:00 - [8] Post the punishment ;-) I'm up for a giggle. i did hear about the one guy some time back that got isk taken out of his wallet... -5bil or something like that... Imagine grinding agents to make that back? /me shudders. SJ. CLS Co-CEO and Standings Director =-
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:21:00 - [9] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/04/2007 14:18:04 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Our policy is not to discuss exploits, but be assured that it was fixed and the exploiters has been dealt with by our friendly neighbourhood GMs. If its your policy not to discuss exploits even after the fact, what happened to the 8/10 Angel complexes? Or the instant-war trick? Or putting dreadnoughts on the undock point of a station? Or using containers as warpin points around gates? Or bookmark bomb shuttles? They seem pretty "discussed" to me. Or are they only allowed to be discussed until they are fixed? --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio
Madman Murry	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:22:00 - [10] Your policy sucks. We are not mushrooms, although you continue to treat us as such.
WhitePhantom Gallente Edenists	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Madman Murry Your policy sucks. We are not mushrooms, although you continue to treat us as such. What possible good would come from us knowing what exploit they fixed?
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:32:00 - [12] Originally by: CCP Wrangler "We could not disclose the true nature of the extended downtime, as that might have notified the exploiters." What were they going to do while they were in a DT like the rest of us? Hmm, somebody who can exploit during DT then... hmmm... 5 isk says this is T21. Eve: Cheats prosper.
Presidente Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:34:00 - [13] Originally by: WhitePhantom Originally by: Madman Murry Your policy sucks. We are not mushrooms, although you continue to treat us as such. What possible good would come from us knowing what exploit they fixed? Yeah ... it's fixed, case closed ... next exploit. I think it's just normal human beeing's curiosity. Pres G +++ JOIN PAP +++
Ling Xiao	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:35:00 - [14] Making it publically known even after it's fixed may only encourage people to find similar problems, or give them ideas of the kind of things to look for. Better safe than sorry. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
Isyel Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Madman Murry Your policy sucks. We are not mushrooms, although you continue to treat us as such. Most just happen to have the intellectual ability of mushrooms tho. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Ling Xiao	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Gaven Blands Originally by: CCP Wrangler "We could not disclose the true nature of the extended downtime, as that might have notified the exploiters." What were they going to do while they were in a DT like the rest of us? Hmm, somebody who can exploit during DT then... hmmm... 5 isk says this is T21. Hi, meet my signature. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
Tortilla Smasher The Stain Project The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:37:00 - [17] Why the hell couldn't you tell us after the server had been taken down? This is crap it really is. Just say 1 minute into downtime "Downtime will be longer" etc etc, instead of this bull**** about server startup. POOR PR, Very poor. -- This is a signature. Un-hijacked since forever *emo-tear this space is MINE! - Deckard I love Deckard+Hutchy - Tortilla
Ar Inziladun United Technologies	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:39:00 - [18] I am glad CCP is on top of things. Thanks for fixing that vague thing that you cannot mention that people were exploiting. You could have just used the normal "we had hardware issues" and no one would have been the wiser. Instead you rile everyone up about some exploit you won't tell them about, lol. I dislike that we do not get compensated for all of these inconviences CCP has been causing. I again lost 12 hrs of training time because the system was down, unexpectedly, and I could not log in to start my new skill before heading to work. Now I am sitting here looking at my character sheet, no blinking light, no skill training. Originally by: CCP Wrangler We hope you accept our apologies for the vague announcement, and for any inconvenience this extended downtime may have caused you. I am glad CCP is sorry all the time but how does that help me? Make things right when unexpected things happen and reimburse your players for their loss. Saying sorry doesn't help me get back lost training time. How many times will CCP say sorry for an issue or mistake before they make amends to the playerbase? I don't accept your apology. Nothing personal but I am a customer and you are a business providing a service. How many times as a customer should I just rollover and accept your apology before I get upset and flip out on the forums? Ooh wait, it just happened. This is a valid concern, please do not remove the post.
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:40:00 - [19] Dear CCP, I hope you get the problem sorted. ignore the whingers. lots of love Ry ry XXX
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Ar Inziladun I am glad CCP is on top of things. Thanks for fixing that vague thing that you cannot mention that people were exploiting. You could have just used the normal "we had hardware issues" and no one would have been the wiser. Instead you rile everyone up about some exploit you won't tell them about, lol. I dislike that we do not get compensated for all of these inconviences CCP has been causing. I again lost 12 hrs of training time because the system was down, unexpectedly, and I could not log in to start my new skill before heading to work. Now I am sitting here looking at my character sheet, no blinking light, no skill training. Originally by: CCP Wrangler We hope you accept our apologies for the vague announcement, and for any inconvenience this extended downtime may have caused you. I am glad CCP is sorry all the time but how does that help me? Make things right when unexpected things happen and reimburse your players for their loss. Saying sorry doesn't help me get back lost training time. How many times will CCP say sorry for an issue or mistake before they make amends to the playerbase? I don't accept your apology. Nothing personal but I am a customer and you are a business providing a service. How many times as a customer should I just rollover and accept your apology before I get upset and flip out on the forums? Ooh wait, it just happened. This is a valid concern, please do not remove the post. can i have your stuff?
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:41:00 - [21] Originally by: SamuraiJack Post the punishment ;-) I'm up for a giggle. i did hear about the one guy some time back that got isk taken out of his wallet... -5bil or something like that... Imagine grinding agents to make that back? /me shudders. It was one of them famous m0o guys, and there were no agents to grind away at. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Ling Xiao Hi, meet my signature. >sigh< So far, we only have solid proof that 0.0 is rigged. So I avoid 0.0 because of that. When we have solid proof that low sec is rigged, I will avoid that too. Ditto highsec. And finally, Darkfall isn't out yet, and neither is Infinity. Show me a viable alternative to Eve, and I am gone. But I suspect you are a troll, and no answer will satisfy you. Eve: Cheats prosper.
Maximillian Power Minmatar WOLFPACK DELTA SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:44:00 - [23] Nice work guys. Thanks for letting us know why the outage occurred (and it didn't even affect me cause I was working). On another note - I, personally, cannot think of any reason not to let us know what the exploit was. Seems a sensible thing to do imo. I've always found that, in reality, eve is not down that much considering the user load it is under. In general I find it impressive. -------------------------------- So....
Laserotaku Brotherhood of Polar Equation Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:47:00 - [24] id imagine also that only people that do exploit are curious about what it was
Ar Inziladun United Technologies	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:47:00 - [25] Originally by: ry ry Originally by: Ar Inziladun I am glad CCP is on top of things. Thanks for fixing that vague thing that you cannot mention that people were exploiting. You could have just used the normal "we had hardware issues" and no one would have been the wiser. Instead you rile everyone up about some exploit you won't tell them about, lol. I dislike that we do not get compensated for all of these inconviences CCP has been causing. I again lost 12 hrs of training time because the system was down, unexpectedly, and I could not log in to start my new skill before heading to work. Now I am sitting here looking at my character sheet, no blinking light, no skill training. Originally by: CCP Wrangler We hope you accept our apologies for the vague announcement, and for any inconvenience this extended downtime may have caused you. I am glad CCP is sorry all the time but how does that help me? Make things right when unexpected things happen and reimburse your players for their loss. Saying sorry doesn't help me get back lost training time. How many times will CCP say sorry for an issue or mistake before they make amends to the playerbase? I don't accept your apology. Nothing personal but I am a customer and you are a business providing a service. How many times as a customer should I just rollover and accept your apology before I get upset and flip out on the forums? Ooh wait, it just happened. This is a valid concern, please do not remove the post. can i have your stuff? Who said I was quitting? Just upset that is all. Voicing that anger helps.
Maximillian Power Minmatar WOLFPACK DELTA SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Laserotaku id imagine also that only people that do exploit are curious about what it was No - many people are generally inquisitive about what can and does go wrong. -------------------------------- So....
Laserotaku Brotherhood of Polar Equation Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:50:00 - [27] Edited by: Laserotaku on 26/04/2007 14:48:55 at least we have few altposts who try to sway public opinion so that it makes CCP look bad for not posting what the exploit was
Maximillian Power Minmatar WOLFPACK DELTA SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:53:00 - [28] Originally by: Laserotaku at least we have few altposts who try to sway public opinion lol - was that directed at me I've been accused of a lot of things but that just takes the proverbial biscuit tbh -------------------------------- So....
Laserotaku Brotherhood of Polar Equation Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Maximillian Power Originally by: Laserotaku at least we have few altposts who try to sway public opinion lol - was that directed at me I've been accused of a lot of things but that just takes the proverbial biscuit tbh no, it was directed for alts
Maximillian Power Minmatar WOLFPACK DELTA SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:56:00 - [30] Originally by: Laserotaku Originally by: Maximillian Power Originally by: Laserotaku at least we have few altposts who try to sway public opinion lol - was that directed at me I've been accused of a lot of things but that just takes the proverbial biscuit tbh no, it was directed for alts anyway - don't want to go any further off topic - so i'll say fair enough. I just don't get exactly who in the list of responses you were actually getting at. My bad. -------------------------------- So....

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