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MrMajIc VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.05.01 10:59:00 - [91] ....they do like to talk on the forums alot, but if you jump 10km from them the ctrl Q is too tempting for most of them not to use. TRUST ME i know.....the isk farmers around there put up a better fight usually than xelas. you know the other day i was amused now i think of this 5 iron 7-8 mc clash (us= rapier, claymore, stabber crow and another cepter I think was a bit drunk) Them absolution, sleipnir pilgrim, curse, jag, heretic some other crap maybe 1-2 more......anyways figured it would happen but once they lost the heritic and some small thingie (maybe crow) out pops the I-Win cyno in pops the mothership and carrier. I mean come on here, you were looking for a little fight we offered what should have been a decent little skermish and blobbed with a supercap. but hey it's war I guess anything to win. So much for fun fights
Shadoo North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.05.01 11:11:00 - [92] Edited by: Shadoo on 01/05/2007 11:10:47 Originally by: DeckardIRL Good old Norman..... edited out: link to Xelas killboard Deck And I'm sure you know the background to the kill you linked to on the XS KB and are not just flaming. You're right, good ol' Norman is one of the few people in Xelas I would and did trust to 1v1 with integrity while 10+ guys watch & cheer both sides. That's what was going on last night with some of the 1v1 kills/deaths, including the one you link and the few others out there . Anyway, in before the mods take your content away given it's a KB link... 1/10 for flame attempt.
DeckardIRL Bravehearts Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.01 11:37:00 - [93] Edited by: DeckardIRL on 01/05/2007 11:33:47 Originally by: Shadoo edited out: link to Xelas killboard 1/10 for flame attempt. Jesus! Shadoo and Elwoood Blues have no sense of humour.... Farscape Hw went got his mates and his Deimos and took Norm out a short time later... but have a laugh FFS... in the context of the OP the linkage was funny.... FFS Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Admiral
shimmyckus Minmatar Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.01 12:08:00 - [94] This post is about loggers and Farscape had fair 1vs1 fight with Norman and lost it honourable. So, whats funny about it Deckard? i dont get it ?
Shadoo North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.05.01 12:36:00 - [95] Edited by: Shadoo on 01/05/2007 12:40:14 Originally by: DeckardIRL Edited by: DeckardIRL on 01/05/2007 11:33:47 Originally by: Shadoo edited out: link to Xelas killboard 1/10 for flame attempt. Jesus! Shadoo and Elwoood Blues have no sense of humour.... Farscape Hw went got his mates and his Deimos and took Norm out a short time later... but have a laugh FFS... in the context of the OP the linkage was funny.... FFS Deck Perhaps I don't see the humor, because thou Farscape Hw is on the Saint Schala killmail -- it was also a fair and square 1v1. Other people on the mail were on it because of previous 1v1s they had (and in farscape's case changed ships into to watch). So -- before attempting humor next time that won't be interpreted as flame, check on your facts. Perhaps you might want to consider that as a policy in fact before posting on eve-o , given post history. edit: just to make sure you get all the facts this time Deck, let me fill you in. It'll help you interpret the killboard with a background so you can attempt humor that those actually involved might get. There were 4 1v1s last night: Domi v Domi (Shadoo v norman) Vexor v Vexor (Farscape v Norman) Thorax v Vexor (Narciss v Norman) Vexor v Vexor (Saint v Norman)
Darc Kaahar Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.01 15:09:00 - [96] Originally by: DeckardIRL Edited by: DeckardIRL on 01/05/2007 11:33:47 Originally by: Shadoo edited out: link to Xelas killboard 1/10 for flame attempt. Jesus! Shadoo and Elwoood Blues have no sense of humour.... Farscape Hw went got his mates and his Deimos and took Norm out a short time later... but have a laugh FFS... in the context of the OP the linkage was funny.... FFS Deck Oh yeah just like your thread about the D2 titan pilot, not flamebait at all I suppose? Fair play to Norman though, that vexor is tanked like a domi.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.01 15:34:00 - [97] God damnit someone stop Norm, hes pulled well ahead of me on the Xelas killboard now. yes I am massaging my own ego
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.01 15:57:00 - [98] aye norm's vexor was cool, it was a good laugh and some nice fights, esp the domi vs. domi which lasted like 10minutes :) but its not norm thats here smacking is it.... ------------ Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.01 17:22:00 - [99] Originally by: DeckardIRL Edited by: DeckardIRL on 01/05/2007 11:33:47 Originally by: Shadoo edited out: link to Xelas killboard 1/10 for flame attempt. Jesus! Shadoo and Elwoood Blues have no sense of humour.... Farscape Hw went got his mates and his Deimos and took Norm out a short time later... but have a laugh FFS... in the context of the OP the linkage was funny.... FFS Deck No. Talk to Norman before sprouting **** on the forums. Norman 1v1'd Farscapes vexor first, then my thorax and then schala beat him in his vexor. Go away troll. ---- Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] -Targoviste
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.01 19:15:00 - [100] Originally by: DeckardIRL Good old Norman..... Linkage Deck Good ol' Deckard

Farscape Hw Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.01 19:17:00 - [101] lol i even frappsed all the 1v1's. THAT VEXOR WAS EVIL.i was in hull b4 i even got him to armor me using t2 drones and him using t1. gf though. you guys better give norman something special or we gonna recruit him tbh.
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.01 19:18:00 - [102] Farscape it was coz he got your t2 drones he killed me. :( ---- Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] -Targoviste
Nai Ling Amarr Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.01 20:20:00 - [103] Originally by: Farscape Hw lol i even frappsed all the 1v1's. THAT VEXOR WAS EVIL.i was in hull b4 i even got him to armor me using t2 drones and him using t1. gf though. you guys better give norman something special or we gonna recruit him tbh. I never understood how Norman could lose that many ships and replace them so quickly. I sure hope he gets a great price on those things. lol There can't be that much ISK in the wrecks. Norman is class, though. _______________________________________________
Dominixa Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.01 20:45:00 - [104] Originally by: Farscape Hw lol i even frappsed all the 1v1's. THAT VEXOR WAS EVIL.i was in hull b4 i even got him to armor me using t2 drones and him using t1. gf though. you guys better give norman something special or we gonna recruit him tbh. Norman would never join the goons :). The mineral requirements of Norman alone would stifle goon shipbuilders.
ALPHA12125 Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.01 20:46:00 - [105] go norman go \o/ :)
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.05.01 21:20:00 - [106] Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 01/05/2007 21:16:19 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Zimi Vlasic LOL @ the OMG YOU'RE A GOON crowd Not only has farscape never logged from a fight, but I've seen the dude leeroy his deimos into blobs just because he wanted to go down fighting, when he very well could have just logged. He's a class guy and flaming him for something some of his alliance mates do is just retarded. By that logic, you and your alliance should stop flaming FIX for the bad things BoB might have done, because "flaming someone for what some of his alliance mates did is just retarded"? You provide enough reasons for flames without bob. PS - We still love Fink Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
SwindonBadger 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.01 21:50:00 - [107] norman for life not just for xmas 07
Farscape Hw Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.01 22:00:00 - [108] add QILAILE from doomsday corp, memeber of Xelas alliance to the list of loggoffski ravens, comi warped to his belt but the raven was aligned to the next belt. he warped so we jumped in and went to that belt but he logged off in warp. this happened just now
BOBHOPE Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.01 22:03:00 - [109] Originally by: Farscape Hw Edited by: Farscape Hw on 01/05/2007 21:58:02 add QILAILE from doomsday corp, memeber of Xelas alliance to the list of loggoffski ravens, comi warped to his belt but the raven was aligned to the next belt. he warped so we jumped in and went to that belt but he logged off in warp. this happened just now *edit: judging by his employment history... someone is really stupid when it comes to recruiting.
Farscape Hw Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.01 22:45:00 - [110] just now we had a Xelas raven in a belt and he cloaked then logged off. his name was YESHIU from doomsday corp.

band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.05.02 02:09:00 - [111] you do know a lot of xelas like to insta dock or POS up when hostiles show up but they arent the only ones of course most alliances have their non PVP pilots do that
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.02 03:49:00 - [112] norman once again impressed me today, after killing a xelas raven and as another entered structure, norman warps in in his scorp to attempt to save his fellow pilot, sadly he lost his own ship as well, but kudos for having the balls to try and save his alliance members. ------------ Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Farscape Hw Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:09:00 - [113] Originally by: sakana norman once again impressed me today, after killing a xelas raven and as another entered structure, norman warps in in his scorp to attempt to save his fellow pilot, sadly he lost his own ship as well, but kudos for having the balls to try and save his alliance members. yea that was awesome of him, he almost made it through the gate as well since his pod jumped the instant he blew up. ya know i was taking a look on xelas killboard and i think that guy is more than half of all pvp in that alliance. ya know i think we killed him about 4 or 5 times today.
Algorithm 5 Caldari Hakata Group Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:10:00 - [114] FWIW (and I don't mind posting because it's hardly a secret) Doomsday is the experiment (using directors that actually speak chinese) to try and "rehabilitate" some of the macro-ratters\|farmers that infest Fountain (the same guys and their many alts in the same 10 systems skipping from corp to corp and application-spamming all and sundry). I believe part of it's purpose may have also been to suck some of them into blue rather than have them reporting ship movements to hostiles during the outpost deployment. I don't mind saying there's some internal disagreements (although mostly at the academic level) over whether it's a good idea or not, but the people that started it think it can be done, and the alliance isn't profiting off it (except perhaps in terms of raven/cloak/torp sales) so there's a bit of a wait-and-see attitude at the moment. Of course, I happen to ravens, cloaks and torps to the market, so I'm probably a little biased (when you kill a doomsday member, I make a bunch of isk) If you are killing doomsday members in farming ravens, it doesn't surprise me one bit. It's the same guys everyone kills anyways in a multitude of other corps, but now a number of them have been isolated into one corp for a while. But to be honest, I doubt the experiment will last.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:15:00 - [115] Originally by: MrMajIc ....they do like to talk on the forums alot, but if you jump 10km from them the ctrl Q is too tempting for most of them not to use. TRUST ME i know.....the isk farmers around there put up a better fight usually than xelas. you know the other day i was amused now i think of this 5 iron 7-8 mc clash (us= rapier, claymore, stabber crow and another cepter I think was a bit drunk) Them absolution, sleipnir pilgrim, curse, jag, heretic some other crap maybe 1-2 more......anyways figured it would happen but once they lost the heritic and some small thingie (maybe crow) out pops the I-Win cyno in pops the mothership and carrier. I mean come on here, you were looking for a little fight we offered what should have been a decent little skermish and blobbed with a supercap. but hey it's war I guess anything to win. So much for fun fights What does MC dropping carriers in have to do with this. Anyway I am sure they had fun, I know I do everytime I drop my carrier into battle weather its vs 1 person or 100.
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:24:00 - [116] over a year ago when fa and vc where still around a small group of us nearly destroyed xelas allaince. i dont recall any good fights with them really except when they where with a bob fleet. but they where the same back then.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:31:00 - [117] Originally by: DeathGrip What does MC dropping carriers in have to do with this. Anyway I am sure they had fun, I know I do everytime I drop my carrier into battle weather its vs 1 person or 100. You Sir, owe me 5 hobgoblin I's from last night!
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:37:00 - [118] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: DeathGrip What does MC dropping carriers in have to do with this. Anyway I am sure they had fun, I know I do everytime I drop my carrier into battle weather its vs 1 person or 100. You Sir, owe me 5 hobgoblin I's from last night! LOL, that was fun. Was my first actual day back from vacation gave me a good laugh.
Farscape Hw Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.02 07:31:00 - [119] Originally by: Algorithm 5 FWIW (and I don't mind posting because it's hardly a secret) Doomsday is the experiment (using directors that actually speak chinese) to try and "rehabilitate" some of the macro-ratters\|farmers that infest Fountain (the same guys and their many alts in the same 10 systems skipping from corp to corp and application-spamming all and sundry). I believe part of it's purpose may have also been to suck some of them into blue rather than have them reporting ship movements to hostiles during the outpost deployment. I don't mind saying there's some internal disagreements (although mostly at the academic level) over whether it's a good idea or not, but the people that started it think it can be done, and the alliance isn't profiting off it (except perhaps in terms of raven/cloak/torp sales) so there's a bit of a wait-and-see attitude at the moment. Of course, I happen to ravens, cloaks and torps to the market, so I'm probably a little biased (when you kill a doomsday member, I make a bunch of isk) If you are killing doomsday members in farming ravens, it doesn't surprise me one bit. It's the same guys everyone kills anyways in a multitude of other corps, but now a number of them have been isolated into one corp for a while. But to be honest, I doubt the experiment will last. well sir, they are making you look very bad. as if you needed the help of them in doing that. ive only known about the existance of xelas for about 2 weeks now and ive already seen you guys logging off and exploiting errors in the game by every means possible. tell those guys in that assbackend system near pnqy that pos's cannot be fueled while they are in reinforced mode. and no, they should not be invincible. coming out of reinforced mode at 100% shield is an exploit period.
Algorithm 5 Caldari Hakata Group Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.02 08:46:00 - [120] Originally by: Farscape Hw well sir, they are making you look very bad. as if you needed the help of them in doing that. So then either the first or second half of that point is wrong, since they are clearly contradictory :) But yes, to answer the actual point I think you were making, some of the objections to the doomsday experiment do relate to the ethics and fair-play issues of the whole situation. Originally by: Farscape Hw ive only known about the existance of xelas for about 2 weeks now and ive already seen you guys logging off and exploiting errors in the game by every means possible. For a number of issues (logging related especially) every Alliance has members that do whatever they can get away with. People in general don't behave entirely rationally when they are caught by surprise. The adrenalin makes people do unpredictable things sometimes. Like I said, I'll have talk to the guy from my corp that you screen-shotted about what he did. EVERY alliance has people with varying levels of morals (Xelas, Goons, everyone). And EVERY Alliance that ***es about some other Alliance running exploits from some perceived moral high ground is guilty of hypocracy. I've watched Sparta and friends logoffski a 25 man fleet in my home system after they killed Naverin's carrier and our rescue fleet had them camped into the system. Not log for the night, which I can kind of understand (since it was very late euro-time) but log for 30 minutes until the camps left then mass-log back in and leave. I picked up and documented the lagbomb can that a director of a D2 corp used in the first major C4C battle a couple of weeks back. We all know it happens all over EVE, and nobody is immune. Originally by:** Farscape Hw Tell those guys in that assbackend system near pnqy that pos's cannot be fueled while they are in reinforced mode. and no, they should not be invincible. coming out of reinforced mode at 100% shield is an exploit period. I'm afraid I'm entirely unsure of what you are talking about there. Haven't seen or heard a thing about it internally. The whole of the Fountain area (and really, the whole cluster) has been buggy as hell since the last patch, so maybe it was something to do with that? For example, we couldn't get our capital fleet into YRNJ last night to defend the POS there because the entire gang and chat system went to hell, and nobody could jump to the cyno. When it comes to the bugs, you win some and you lose some I'm afraid. However, in regards to that specific case, if you have some evidence of intentional exploits on the part of someone (there's a couple of back-end poses around PNQY so I'm not sure which specific case you are referring to) please send it to me and I'll look into it. Which is not a blatant "Proof of STFU" but more of a "Be Specific or STFU" :)



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