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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.03.17 02:54:46 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:
AUR below 1000 will be erased? WTF
Yeah, that sux.
Regardless of the amount of AUR within the account, CCP should just exchange it all into it's PLEX equivalent with the leftover amount being rounded up to equal 1 PLEX. Especially since it will take 500 of the new PLEX to equal the value of the current PLEX.
DMC
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What I don't understand is why the OP thinks the CSM is behind it. More than likely an employee of CCP is probably behind it if there is indeed some insider PLEX trading going on.
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Drake Aihaken
CODE.d
64
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Posted - 2017.03.17 04:37:53 -
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Looking forward to the next Jita monument shoot. |
Tetsel
Heretic Army
Circle-Of-Two
298
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Posted - 2017.03.17 04:44:15 -
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Maybe somebody is already shooting it.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
522
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Posted - 2017.03.17 05:14:32 -
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i really must say the eve community as a whole are just a bunch of gullible followers who put too much trust into this shady company which has in the past had many scandals and leaks.. and yes its occurred once again
the csm has been a joke ever since it was even thought up. you're damn well knowing folks leak info to people and even over the past few days i noticed a strange behavior in those Plex cartels.
eve is just a money grab folks.. thats all there is to it.. you're finally seeing this.. you knew there was going to be a reason behind the alpha push.. you knew it in your gut.. but you thought "this will make the population numbers look better"
just calling it out like it is..
ccp you're doing one great job of pushing away players and showing your desperate for cash mindset.. i know you're desperate just look at the number of people playing.. can you even count to 75k active players any longer??
so be glad folks.. your csm failed you and they saved their buddies with the real money wallets cause their spreadsheet in space is all that matters..
you're very welcome..
now this is what i call meta-gaming
all the way to the bank.
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l0rd carlos
TURN LEFT
1325
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Posted - 2017.03.17 07:28:17 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:
eve is just a money grab folks.. thats all there is to it.. you're finally seeing this..
Expert call it: A product :)
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
703
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Posted - 2017.03.17 07:38:51 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Regardless of the amount of AUR within the account, CCP should just exchange it all into it's PLEX equivalent with the leftover amount being rounded up to equal 1 PLEX. Especially since it will take 500 of the new PLEX to equal the value of the current PLEX.
There are some many possibilities how to convert <1000 Aurum.Game time, ISKs, SP.
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Kal Mir
Blackwater Task Forces
Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2017.03.17 08:48:19 -
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Girka Kring wrote:(...)
Can we get rid of CSM? Their only role is to leak info for big entities/their friends. Casual players don't care and don't even vote for CSM. Players in big alliances are forced to vote for specific candidates. Overall CSM is giving advantage to 1% of player base, at the expense of reminding 99%.(...)
so true :( |
CopyCatz
Sienar Fleet Systems
81
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Posted - 2017.03.17 08:49:58 -
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It's rumors like this, coupled with the blunt deletion of <1000 aur that keeps sinking my confidence in Eve. I would expect a full inquiry into this by CCP and a statement about the smaller aur amounts before law suit threats start popping up again. |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron
The-Culture
2103
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Posted - 2017.03.17 09:22:01 -
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I might be wrong but afaik every market speculation should affect daily amount of traded items. While graphs provided do not show it.
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Kaivarian Coste
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2017.03.17 09:27:00 -
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Any specific reason why <1000 aurum balances are being deleted? The new plex is supposed to be "granular". This just seems like a cheap, grubby move.
And in all my years, I've never voted once for CSM. It's a rubberstamp for the major blocs in this game, and hardly representative of the entire playerbase. This latest scandal suggests that the CSM is now an enemy of the playerbase. |
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
29378
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Posted - 2017.03.17 10:06:18 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Cade Windstalker wrote:
Second, this change is likely to introduce a lot of new PLEX onto the market in the form of spare AUR. Like, I've personally got about a PLEX's worth of AUR that I've never spent before that I got entirely for free, and a lot of others will have something similar.
Hardly any new PLEX being introduced compared to the many billions of AUR that will simply be erased from the game. Keep in mind that you need 1000+ Aur to be considered for the conversion. Then remember that there are probably 500,000 characters in the game with leftover AUR that amounts to less than 1000 per character. That's straight up theft by CCP to my mind and needs to have some careful discussion before this goes live. You buy AUR with cash and then find it gone one day? Not good for business, CCP. Not good at all. Mr Epeen 
I wonder if they could do it that way:
Search accounts for bought aurum. Search for spent aurum in those accounts.
Replace all bought and not spent Aurum with PLEX.
^ This would be the only fair way in my oppinion.
In every other case people will complain, because they will get "literally robbed". And of course if you bought something for real money, you should keep eqivalent of it, if the game is still functioning. That is what people are thinking usually.
In every other case CCP want to get a lot of bad carma, like EA.
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Dinin Dalael
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.03.17 11:33:27 -
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Drake Aihaken wrote:Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:Plex prices go up and down all the time.
Proof? Or are you just spewing garbage. So you're saying it just happens to be a huge coincidnce? I don't even need my tinfoil on that tight to see that someone leaked and players reaped. If my CSM term were up in 2 weeks, I wasn't planning on running again and maybe even quitting EVE... Just saying - it's not much of a stretch.
What you said here, is kind of ********.
1- Just because you're the kind of PoS that would take advantage of a situation, doesn't mean others would.
2-If a CSM member is planning on leaving EVE, there's not much point in himself trying to enrich himself with isk. Sure he could try and do some RMT but meh...
Source your quotes, or stop spewing conspiracy theories.
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
67
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Posted - 2017.03.17 11:49:18 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:If you're right I hope CCP bans those involved, but I don't think you're right. sits back to watch the entertainment
They wont;
Or they would just find someone which they can blame;
CSM's are just a CCP bitches... thats all about it;
Need a prove? Watch a video how amazed they were with a new scanning system (and a march patch at all) - and how many players are now speaks it's one of the worst changes ever/
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Salvos Rhoska
2461
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:02:33 -
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That the PLEX change and Aurum wipe is happening in the first place is already in and of itself a CSM failure.
PLEX was working just fine.
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Keno Skir
1390
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:02:43 -
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CopyCatz wrote:It's rumors like this, coupled with the blunt deletion of <1000 aur that keeps sinking my confidence in Eve. I would expect a full inquiry into this by CCP and a statement about the smaller aur amounts before law suit threats start popping up again.
There are no grounds for a law suit so the threats, much like always, would be without a leg to stand on
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Anthar Thebess
1688
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:04:47 -
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CCP ban all involved people.
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
292
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:05:23 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:i really must say the eve community as a whole are just a bunch of gullible followers who put too much trust into this shady company which has in the past had many scandals and leaks.. and yes its occurred once again
who says they trust? Maybe they just are busy with REAL problems as many of them lead an adult life.
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Mr Mieyli
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
453
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:06:38 -
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Sure get rid of the CSM.
As well meaning as they are and as much effort as CSM members put in, they are a strong echo chamber for CCP. I worry that it is dangerous for CCP to listen as heavily as they do on the CSM. Eve could quite easily drift farther and farther from normality as it's steady playerbase continually push for changes they want, then adapt. For example, take an honest outside look at suicide ganking. Don't fall back on the 'data' that ganking keeps players in game, I believe players who do find combat and player interaction will stay longer but not because they were ganked. Eve players reason that ganking is necessary for various reasons, due to the games design. However an outsider just sees that your stuff can be destroyed even if you're trying to be careful by moving it in highsec.
CCP either need as wide a net as possible on their ideas, or they need to decide on a goal on to for it for better or worse. For example, WoW decided on their own to make a panda expansion. That decision, I'm sure, cost as well as gained them players. Either take all the feedback you can, or go with your own path.
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JC Mieyli
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:12:35 -
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scam involves real money
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
Black Marker
945
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:18:32 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:As well meaning as they are and as much effort as CSM members put in, they are a strong echo chamber for CCP. I worry that it is dangerous for CCP to listen as heavily as they do on the CSM. Eve could quite easily drift farther and farther from normality as it's steady playerbase continually push for changes they want, then adapt.
CCP listens to the CSM? Since when?
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Tetsel
Heretic Army
Circle-Of-Two
300
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:24:37 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Mr Mieyli wrote:As well meaning as they are and as much effort as CSM members put in, they are a strong echo chamber for CCP. I worry that it is dangerous for CCP to listen as heavily as they do on the CSM. Eve could quite easily drift farther and farther from normality as it's steady playerbase continually push for changes they want, then adapt. CCP listens to the CSM? Since when?
Pretty much this when it comes to real money and not game design CCP gives no **** for the CSM, Alpha clones were a big move and CSM learnt about it 2 days prior to the devblog, it wasn't discuss at all with them under NDA.
Delete CSM plz that just a metagame tool for big voting groups and a PR/DC for CCP.
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Cat Evergreen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
12
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:30:12 -
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I don't see any indication for increased volume of PLEX traded in your screenshoot. Do you have other proof or indication that someone has been buying up PLEX before or during the price spike?
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commander aze
410
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:35:29 -
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Or... just a thought we elect people with high moral character via elecrions from the popular vote
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
Black Marker
949
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:38:18 -
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commander aze wrote:Or... just a thought we elect people with high moral character via elecrions from the popular vote
So nothing changes and the system will still be gamed by the nullsec blocs to gain access to NDA information and further their goals?
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
570
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:39:37 -
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Salvos Rhoska
2464
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:56:59 -
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commander aze wrote:Or... just a thought we elect people with high moral character via elecrions from the popular vote
When has this ever happened in the entire history of voting.
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
1308
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Posted - 2017.03.17 12:57:34 -
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This thread was an inside job by the CSM to raise the prices on tinfoil hats. |
Kane Carnifex
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
38
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Posted - 2017.03.17 13:02:25 -
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An Employee or CSM Member broke the None-Disclosure-Agreement (NDA).
Honestly this will be really hard to proof and sue the right person.
Why happens this? Because of this ******* secret none Transparency ****.
Doesn-¦t work in Companies, doesn-¦t work with Friends.. and also doesn-¦t work for Governments.
But hey "We are CCP", we don-¦t learn from history...we want our own proof.
Fine, here is your proof you **** doesn't work how you like it.
PS: Sorry for the hard language but political correctness is another **** like above.#
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Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
226
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Posted - 2017.03.17 13:08:49 -
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who knows if CSM are involved in RMT trades and making plex prices spike up then raze it to ground to make it low value for in-real-world currency so the csm buy new plex system plexes then scream its bad to go change it back then 5000 new plex is turned to 50000 another new plex so they sell it to lower plex prices just to say again plex ened changes |
Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
571
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Posted - 2017.03.17 13:09:19 -
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Kane Carnifex wrote:An Employee or CSM Member broke the None-Disclosure-Agreement (NDA).
Honestly this will be really hard to proof and sue the right person.
Why happens this? Because of this ******* secret none Transparency ****.
Doesn-¦t work in Companies, doesn-¦t work with Friends.. and also doesn-¦t work for Governments.
But hey "We are CCP", we don-¦t learn from history...we want our own proof.
Fine, here is your proof you **** doesn't work how you like it.
Btw, i am german... I now my **** bro.
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