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Cautet
North Siders
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Posted - 2007.12.04 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Cannon Is this thread a joke? 
A rook will just jam it because it's mimitar. 
Well, it's actually a total ***** to jam, unlike the other mimitar ship's as it has recon level signal strength. Plus it can use drones to jam itself.
But anyway, apart from that I agree with you, and 99% of posters. All recons are pretty good but this doesn't need a nerf. The reason there are so many about now is that most of the pvp in 0.0 is the amount of nano ships. And they will be essential until nano ships disapear.
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Eve University
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Posted - 2007.12.04 02:53:00 -
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You all DO realize that the last post in this thread before ChimeraRouge necroed it was in May, right?
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.12.04 06:07:00 -
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Haha, there could be some ship that had infinite capacitor, infinite tank, infinite jamming ability, and infinite speed yet if it didn't do over 200dps some people would say "it's fine, it does crap damage".
Crap damage does not make a ship balanced. --- Proud Amarr pilot.
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Semkhet
KR0M The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.12.04 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ion Bartzabel Why?
They are the new "I win ships" because:
you can fit mwd and have a decent speed at 1500-6000ms. can shield extender tank and have 9000 shield, pending fitting. it's not possible to hurt them with missiles, therefore caldari ships are useless against them. it's not possible to track them because of their speed.
Possible solutions;
limit the ship the ships ability to not use more than one webber. remove the ability to fit microwarpdrive. stack nerf nano/overdrives/intertias even more.
I'm sure CCP does not agree that this ship is meant to be like the way the ship works today.
Heck, i'll start training for them myself, there's so much benefits flying the ships, it's crazy :)
Discuss.
Sure bud. The last thing we need is to nerf the easiest toy available to the antinano whining crowd. Nerf Huginns/Rapiers and these forums will turn into "Crocodile Tears Online"...
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Helldrek Demonstar
Section Five
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Helldrek Demonstar on 19/12/2007 22:06:49 tbh
Nerf Huginn and Rapier because they combat nanofags? hmm... phail? 
EDIT: Oh and not to mention needing missiles, drones, shields and speed skills. Onoes about 350dps and not rlly able to outrun heavy missiles without snakes or faction stuff. Overpowered?... and the sky is neon-green? \o/
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Arcane Carnage
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:06:00 -
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Ure not in tri... and your *****ing about rapiers and huginns..
LULZ get skillz.
ps: missiles are VERY affective against them again get skillz
Zarnie plz slap him. -
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Vaal Erit
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:10:00 -
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Double necro? Good god, when will you noobs learn...
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Helldrek Demonstar
Section Five
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit Double necro? Good god, when will you noobs learn...
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Hans Angry
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:27:00 -
[99]
shut up, the ship is fine Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. And it was ten times too big :p If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
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Gort
Storm Guard Elite
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:37:00 -
[100]
somebody lock this double-necro miserable excuse for a joke.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.19 23:45:00 -
[101]
Originally by: kublai
NERFS KILL GAMES.
They do? Ok lets roll back all the nerfs back to the days of the gankageddon. Im game. ---------------------------------------------
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6Bagheera9
Slacker Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.12.20 01:54:00 -
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I have a pretty nice set-up and near max skills and my unrigged Rapier will only go 3.5km/s with gang bonuses. I do not see how anyone could get a Rapier/Huggin going anywhere near 6km/s without snakes. 9K shields is possible, but you'd need to sacrifice resists or tackling/ewar. The Huggin has decent dps, but no more than a typical T2 fitted T1 cruiser. The Rapier is pretty weak on firepower and will need help killing anything beyond destroyer class. So basically the OP is full of **** and needs to go back to WoW.
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xHalcyonx
Amarr Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: 6Bagheera9 I have a pretty nice set-up and near max skills and my unrigged Rapier will only go 3.5km/s with gang bonuses. I do not see how anyone could get a Rapier/Huggin going anywhere near 6km/s without snakes. 9K shields is possible, but you'd need to sacrifice resists or tackling/ewar. The Huggin has decent dps, but no more than a typical T2 fitted T1 cruiser. The Rapier is pretty weak on firepower and will need help killing anything beyond destroyer class. So basically the OP is full of **** and needs to go back to WoW.
I could get my Rapier/Huginn to go 5km/s with no implants. It would require that I put in 2x Polycarbons and then get put into the squad of a max-skilled or near max-skilled Claymore pilot, of which Tri has several. 
3.5km/s without the skirm bonuses though.  ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr! |

Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Plaetean on 20/12/2007 02:57:54 I hope CCP stop listening to their playerbase, the thought that the future of this game is in the hands of people like the OP terrifies me.
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6Bagheera9
Slacker Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.12.20 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: xHalcyonx
Originally by: 6Bagheera9 I have a pretty nice set-up and near max skills and my unrigged Rapier will only go 3.5km/s with gang bonuses. I do not see how anyone could get a Rapier/Huggin going anywhere near 6km/s without snakes. 9K shields is possible, but you'd need to sacrifice resists or tackling/ewar. The Huggin has decent dps, but no more than a typical T2 fitted T1 cruiser. The Rapier is pretty weak on firepower and will need help killing anything beyond destroyer class. So basically the OP is full of **** and needs to go back to WoW.
I could get my Rapier/Huginn to go 5km/s with no implants. It would require that I put in 2x Polycarbons and then get put into the squad of a max-skilled or near max-skilled Claymore pilot, of which Tri has several. 
3.5km/s without the skirm bonuses though. 
2x Polys will help quite a bit, but a Claymore makes a HUGE difference. Everyone affected will receive the equivalent of a full lg snake set. First time I had the pleasure of having a Claymore in gang was in a fleet battle in OOYZ vs. the Goons. My mixed T2/best named Claw which normally did only just under 6km/s was rocketing at closer to 10km/s. Took a little while to learn how to control the damn thing, but once I did it was a blast and I helped bag two Rohks and a Caracal.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.12.20 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vitrael on 20/12/2007 04:41:11
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel you can fit mwd and have a decent speed at 1500-6000ms.
Bzzt. Flown mine with a skirmish specialized Claymore in gang and have not gotten 6000, that requires snakes. If you don't like it, cry nerf snakes, not ships.
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel can shield extender tank and have 9000 shield, pending fitting.
Bzzzt again, with perfect shield skills, two extenders, and gang skills it still won't hit 9000, that would take rigging (in which case it won't go fast) or another extender (in which case it will just suck).
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel it's not possible to hurt them with missiles, therefore caldari ships are useless against them.
Yeah, as long as the MWD is running, try perma-running a MWD on a recon why don't ya.
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel it's not possible to track them because of their speed
See above.
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel Possible solutions;
limit the ship the ships ability to not use more than one webber. remove the ability to fit microwarpdrive.
HAHAHAHAHA
Stop trolling.
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Vergil 577
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2007.12.20 05:41:00 -
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Seriously you should look at a Vagabond. 10-12kms with snakes and hardwires (double that of a rapier). You can get 5000k shield hp with 1 large shield extender and the resists of a HAC, I mean seriously. -------- MAIDS. Don't know why I join a corp with such an obscure name. |

Bodhisattvas
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.20 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ion Bartzabel Why?
They are the new "I win ships" because:
you can fit mwd and have a decent speed at 1500-6000ms. can shield extender tank and have 9000 shield, pending fitting. it's not possible to hurt them with missiles, therefore caldari ships are useless against them. it's not possible to track them because of their speed.
Possible solutions;
limit the ship the ships ability to not use more than one webber. remove the ability to fit microwarpdrive. stack nerf nano/overdrives/intertias even more.
I'm sure CCP does not agree that this ship is meant to be like the way the ship works today.
Heck, i'll start training for them myself, there's so much benefits flying the ships, it's crazy :)
Discuss.
be quiet tosser....
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Mc Fraser
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Posted - 2007.12.20 06:10:00 -
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really stop the damn whining about every damn ship. almost all ships have been nerfed . this game is getting pointless in every patch. WHY `? couse u whine too much
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Synseer
Minmatar Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2007.12.20 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Synseer on 20/12/2007 10:01:19
Originally by: Vitrael Edited by: Vitrael on 20/12/2007 04:41:11
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel can shield extender tank and have 9000 shield, pending fitting.
Bzzzt again, with perfect shield skills, two extenders, and gang skills it still won't hit 9000, that would take rigging (in which case it won't go fast) or another extender (in which case it will just suck).
Ive got 8625shield with 2 LSE and perfect shield skills, goes to 9487.5 w/ siege warfare L5. No rigs.

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Ayr Chron
Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:07:00 -
[111]
Can i say something?
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Yuleth Gix
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:18:00 -
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Necro, for great justice!
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