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DTee
The Huns Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: DTee on 11/05/2007 20:57:04 I would like to congratulate the Alliance on these stats. No doubt more then jsut BoB were invovled in those kills.
In my opinion this war is far from over. There are several factors at play which are still deemed essential, in order to secure a complete alliance victory. The main objectives being that the alliance mounts an offensive against the north. During this offensive breaks down several major players in the north in to smaller entities and "pets".
Firstly, The problem for the coalition being their assets and people are spread out all over the universe.
The Coalition doesn't have a head or a governining body. The leadership of BoB is the leadership of the Alliance, not only are they excellent at what they do. They are brutal in their precision. Everything is planned well in advance. No hasty decisions are made. Meaning that unless an organized counter attack is mounted it is a given that pretty much all northern outposts are lost.
As much as I miss my old friends and despise some bad apples within EVOL. It is clearly understood that BoB are some of the best players ingame. How so? I've sat on both sides of the fence the Organizational culture and behavior within BoB is the main fator in their achievements. Its not called not having a life, or sacrafising all else. What makes a 100 man BoB gang better then a 200 man Coalition gang?!
In a BoB gang no one really ever needs to be told excatly what to do. Eveeryone knows their place, does what they are told. The various parties are already doing what they should be. This reducese the amount of micromanagement the FC has to do. Not failing to mention their Intelligence network.
Another aspect of BoB, which I have found Excellent is their communications. The methods they use, mean thatif anything is going on more or less the whoel alliance knows withinminutes. Until the Coalition aheres to strict rules and innate cultural change. The north is doomed again the best PVP force ingame.
I apologize for the grammer, punctuation and spellings.
Disclaimer: These are my personal views, they do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |
NereSky
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:00:00 -
[452]
*snip* Please don't troll. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
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DeltaH
NOBODY Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:02:00 -
[453]
Originally by: DTee ... and despise some bad apples within EVOL.
Eh? Evol is <3 tho !
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NereSky
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:11:00 -
[454]
*snip* Please do not discuss moderator actions. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:14:00 -
[455]
Originally by: DTee Stuff by DTee
OH HAI DTEE!
Nap-Trainzies, listen to this man, he could save your life :).
I'm probably like the last one to post, I just got off work :(
-Druid
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DTee
The Huns Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:15:00 -
[456]
Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: DTee Stuff by DTee
OH HAI DTEE!
Nap-Trainzies, listen to this man, he could save your life :).
I'm probably like the last one to post, I just got off work :(
much <3
miss u
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RogerWilco
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:24:00 -
[457]
Dtee for queenbee plz..
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Smythe The last 12 months have been an absolute experience for me in EvE. With fighting BoB in ASCN and then being honored enough to be a member I got to see how the other side works.
............ For you all that preach the same ole haxors etc etc and for those of you that preach that BoB is ebil.........
Well hear from me as you have heard it from many many others in and out of BoB,
BoB are truly the ultimate PROFESSIONALS. Being a member of BoB means you fight better, harder and longer. You put yourself in situations because you trust the guy next to you explicitally. Why?
Because we are BAND OF BROTHERS
Stand's on top of hill waving the bob flag. Mr smythe my dear corp and alliance mate, your passion and dedication is mirrored by my own and i totally understand and get what you mean
Emote wipe's tear <3
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:54:00 -
[459]
Is a post like this worth the endless boredom thats called war these days? I prefer to sleep at night tbh.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.11 22:57:00 -
[460]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz *snip* Off topic. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
That post was very much on topic.
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Astarte Nosferatu
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.11 23:15:00 -
[461]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz *snip* Off topic. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
That post was very much on topic.
Yeah, they've been doing that for a while now. Told me I was derailing the thread cause I anwsered the OP's question...
Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP
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soulkiller3
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.11 23:25:00 -
[462]
This is for everone
i feel you all need to get out of your house`s into the sun, man your all welcome to come to mine for a j***t, then come to the local pub for a beer to chilli out, its kool some nice local females to chat to. Then may be come back for some more beers and play a game of football or what ever in the local fields.
Becouse reading this thread i feel you all need to
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IlIlIlIlI IlIlIlIlI
Hos B4 Bros
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Posted - 2007.05.11 23:27:00 -
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I would just like to know, what exactly is tactical about nuking an entire fleet with a single button push of an uncatchable pwnmobile. Or blobbing with motherships, however much you deny the fact that its what you do. 500 fighters in the air is the same as a 500 man frigate blob, the server really doesn't care.
At least be honest about the fact that you're "winning" because you have more ****socking, no-life, meat-puppets, with 60m SP and untold billions of ISK because your entire lives for the last 4 years has been an internet spaceship game.
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.05.11 23:29:00 -
[464]
Just so VERY embarassing for the Cryolition crew. They had everything on their side. Despite the fact that the war was created by abusing a real life tragedy from a BoB member they bizarrely managed to spin doctor most of Eve into fighting against BoB. If i had the energy to bother reading their depressing, countless threads about how BoB was going to die it would be immensely amusing.
Cryalition had so much potential to finally take the fight to the Alliance, but at the end of the day they didn't have the talent. Pretty poor when you go from a starting point of having almost every corp in Eve spin-doctored against BoB, and STILL manage to lose.
I just wish the war had lasted a little longer. RA had real potential, and combined with the dumb meatshield of Goons they should have been unstoppable Sadly, as some predicted, they never had the leadership qualities to finish what they started.
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Dr Smythe
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 23:37:00 -
[465]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Dr Smythe The last 12 months have been an absolute experience for me in EvE. With fighting BoB in ASCN and then being honored enough to be a member I got to see how the other side works.
............ For you all that preach the same ole haxors etc etc and for those of you that preach that BoB is ebil.........
Well hear from me as you have heard it from many many others in and out of BoB,
BoB are truly the ultimate PROFESSIONALS. Being a member of BoB means you fight better, harder and longer. You put yourself in situations because you trust the guy next to you explicitally. Why?
Because we are BAND OF BROTHERS
Stand's on top of hill waving the bob flag. Mr smythe my dear corp and alliance mate, your passion and dedication is mirrored by my own and i totally understand and get what you mean
Emote wipe's tear <3
Fire I only wish I could be playing more right now. God damn new job has totally fecked up my eve time. Will sort it out soon enough and will be right back at your side :)
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NereSky
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.12 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Just so VERY embarassing for the Cryolition crew. They had everything on their side. Despite the fact that the war was created by abusing a real life tragedy from a BoB member they bizarrely managed to spin doctor most of Eve into fighting against BoB. If i had the energy to bother reading their depressing, countless threads about how BoB was going to die it would be immensely amusing.
Cryalition had so much potential to finally take the fight to the Alliance, but at the end of the day they didn't have the talent. Pretty poor when you go from a starting point of having almost every corp in Eve spin-doctored against BoB, and STILL manage to lose.
I just wish the war had lasted a little longer. RA had real potential, and combined with the dumb meatshield of Goons they should have been unstoppable Sadly, as some predicted, they never had the leadership qualities to finish what they started.
Sigh you are just not worth it - damn lowlife's
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.12 00:12:00 -
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I think all this no life crap needs dropping now tbh. Yes I know its mostly "my side" doing it. Some BoB members may have thier priorities mixed up, or spend alot more time on eve than you do, but its thier life, and they can do with it as they wish, they shouldnt be slandered for it. Its that effort thats got them this far, and if they can sit back and genuinely say they are proud of what they have accomplished in the past 3 years of thier lives, then so be it.
If you going to say such things, at least put it across in a decent manner, simply state that they spend more time on eve thus can get more done. Theres no need for the playground insults about no mates etc. (Though they can be really funny if light hearted :).)
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.12 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Just so VERY embarassing for the Cryolition crew. They had everything on their side. Despite the fact that the war was created by abusing a real life tragedy from a BoB member they bizarrely managed to spin doctor most of Eve into fighting against BoB. If i had the energy to bother reading their depressing, countless threads about how BoB was going to die it would be immensely amusing.
Cryalition had so much potential to finally take the fight to the Alliance, but at the end of the day they didn't have the talent. Pretty poor when you go from a starting point of having almost every corp in Eve spin-doctored against BoB, and STILL manage to lose.
I just wish the war had lasted a little longer. RA had real potential, and combined with the dumb meatshield of Goons they should have been unstoppable Sadly, as some predicted, they never had the leadership qualities to finish what they started.
Why is it that the worst pro-BoB smack isn't even from BoB themselves?
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Akoudoulos
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.12 00:34:00 -
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Nice stats btw this is just bob losses you forget to mention the LV stations and about all of your allies losses
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laotse
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.12 00:36:00 -
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in 90 day,s bob will be like ascn xetic and kill it self thnx molle lust for hunger kill,s all http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.12 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107 I think all this no life crap needs dropping now tbh. Yes I know its mostly "my side" doing it. Some BoB members may have thier priorities mixed up, or spend alot more time on eve than you do, but its thier life, and they can do with it as they wish, they shouldnt be slandered for it. Its that effort thats got them this far, and if they can sit back and genuinely say they are proud of what they have accomplished in the past 3 years of thier lives, then so be it.
If you going to say such things, at least put it across in a decent manner, simply state that they spend more time on eve thus can get more done. Theres no need for the playground insults about no mates etc. (Though they can be really funny if light hearted :).)
You're not allowed to post with respect or conscience, Darko, it's in the contract. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Sujin Kai
Starship Direct
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Posted - 2007.05.12 01:18:00 -
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Quote: On February 10th Band of Brothers announced it was time to move onto the second phase of the largest premeditated conflict in history. Like clockwork, enemies rose to the occasion and constructed the single largest organization of players ever seen;
What is it about your real life that gives you this overwhelming compulsion to talk as though you control every aspect of Eve? The act was already exposed when you claimed you were "Stealing Chow's targets", only to be beaten back by a two-pronged counterattack, to watch LV crumble into dust over the course of a few weeks. The act was exposed again when you posted that truly pathetic stuff about your enemies being "dead already" because "we are BoB" (seriously, what were you thinking when you wrote that?).
Now in spite of that double exposure of your hollow pretensions you are back to the same old thing. "We totally wanted a war and our STUPID enemies attacked us like clockwork!". *******s. Your enemies attacked you and you were forced to respond.
Frankly if I were a young man being led around by a middle-aged man who derived all his self-worth from his (unrealistic) perception that he was manipulating a video game world, I would be creeped out. For the young alliance leaders their devotion to the challenges of this game, and the skills they build in leadership and organisation, can hopefully be turned into something useful in the real world one day. But you're already long past the point in your life where you should have used whatever skills you have, and you're still deploying them in Eve. To compensate for your knowledge of that fact you try to project an image of being the very top of the heap ("Hey, SirMolle's competing against a bunch of kids!", "yeah, but he's beatin' the pants off them!").
I shudder to think what's going to happen when it all comes crashing down or, worse, when you win Eve and realise that it doesn't matter.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.12 01:25:00 -
[473]
Nice stats for 90 days hoping for more carnage in the next phase :)
I would like to express lots of <3 to our allies as well you have been slandered a lot and been blobbed a lot by the coalition and still stood ur ground and gave em hell much respect . I have had the pleasure to fly with lots of you and looking forward to flying with the rest and have even more fun. BNC Vs CELES Video
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.12 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Akoudoulos Nice stats btw this is just bob losses you forget to mention the LV stations and about all of your allies losses
Which is quite clearly stated in the OP. Or did you not read it properly? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.12 02:05:00 -
[475]
Just read the whole thread. I can't help but admit that there is a smile on my face, again...
To all those who contacted me to see if they could persuade me to sway FIX to abandon BoB and 'fight for our freedom', I have one thing to say... told you so. I don't know what it is about FIX in all honesty. Most of the time other corps and alliances show respect, then the shooting starts. When FIX is getting piled upon, we're suddenly considered a 'joke' of an alliance, and streams of abuse are directed towards us constantly as enemies strive to break us; multiple alliances hit ED-L9T as their primary target, they came in fresh, while FIX had just come out of a war once again.
I'm mentally blown away at how this aspect of FIX history tends to repeat itself again and again.
Outnumbered, outgunned... no crying. <- try it sometime. FIX is still standing and the tone of the posts in CODA begin to change again, all of a sudden we're not the joke of an alliance we were supposed to be. People are less quick to call us slaves or pets.
That's ok, you will again the next time FIX gets piled on, because FIX has been through this plenty of times before; we know the score.
For some of the coalition, it's your turn to suck it up. As always, there are only two options available. Either you suck it up and deal with it. Or, you bury your head in the sand and make excuses.
Only one of the above works if you want to survive.
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Zrevak Ashek
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.12 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Gadiva I just read the whole thread and it makes me somewhat sad to see the bitterness - especially from Razor and D2 (and especially when we haven't even seen them in combat). Remember this is a game and you should be playing it to have fun. If you are that bitter then try a 3-month break from the CAOD snake pit to put things in perpective. BoB has many a fanatical member but we play to have fun and my wife hasn't mentioned divorce yet.
And many of you are posting like the war is over but it's just starting. With Feythabolis now 100% retaken and safe BoB now sits on the Goons border and RA have suddenly woken up to the fact that there is a danger and moved all their pilots to Tenerifis. So all the good battles and the battles we really want to fight are ahead of us and that is somewhat exciting to me as a former LV pilot.
Yes, now u'll be fighting MACTEP, should be alot more interesting for you, I guess.
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.12 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Yes, Bob are the masters at cheating.
Yes they are, actually, and it's been proven beyond all doubt.
Client hacks? Don't make me laugh. What do you call having CCP give you inside information to help keep your alliance a step ahead of everyone else?
The BoB directorate had a huge blowout over hoarding information CCP had passed down to them. Dianabolic, upset over being attacked by fellow bobbits for not sharing, told them, "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP."
Now that's cheating. _________________________________________________________
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Bared Bel'Medar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.12 02:50:00 -
[478]
Since this is a Molle post, this is usually the part where I say something smart assed and funny. But sadly, I've run out of new material
[INSERT REMARK HERE]
There you go. Generic lable. have fun with it
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Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.12 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Anyway, if I read the post I originally quoted right (which obviously could be not the case), it was a shot at Axiom Empire who after the complete and utter defeat of ASCN was quite quick to get positive standings with BoB so they could also "win". At that point in time there was no even a "choo choo" yet.
Just curious as to what your smokin? Axiom Empire looked at a number of options. We had offers from all over Eve to join and do different things. We went into the drone regions for a bit, we entertained some other options but it really came down to changing who and what we are.
For 3+ years I have worked with the likes of the coalition. And its always the same attitude. Always the same game. The carebears get richer and the pvpers do all the work. I have watched BoB grow over those same years always hoping that I could help another alliance reach that level of teamwork and committment. I think we came close with ASCN but a number of things occurred, prior to and during the BoB war, that doomed ASCN.
You can see the same attitudes today. There is no teamwork. Your all whining about BoB and the "pets", game mechanics, etc etc etc. I refused to be part of that again. I saw it in Xetic, I saw it in ASCN, hell, I even saw it my own alliance. The greedy get rich and the guys who worked so hard to protect their assets, so they could make all that isk, get left with nothing. D2/G and their "pets", RA, GOONS, the primary movers and shakers in the coalition have always been regarded as hostile to Axe and DDC. BoB and DDC have had our moments but we have always been straight up with each other.
So when it came down to which side is Steel Rat and DDC going to fall on, I think its rather obvious I would side with a group of people who know about teamwork and don't whine about game mechanics and titans and get stuff done, who I have known since before Eve and win or lose, I knew me and my corp would have fun and lots of pewpew.
After almost 2 months of looking around for a new place to hang Axe's hat, BoB and I came to an agreement. We haven't looked back since. It has been the best move I could have done for Axe. If the coalition pulls together and removes their heads from each others posteriors, they could very well beat BoB and its "pets". BoB could own all of 0.0. Either way, Axe is and will continue to have fun flying alongside some of the best pilots and teamwork in the game.
But please, Axe didn't join BoB to "win" Eve. We joined BoB so the allied channels we are in, aren't full of whining and blame. They are full of people doing their best and putting it on the line.
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FireFox McProwler
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.12 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Rat Edited by: Steel Rat on 12/05/2007 02:59:03
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Anyway, if I read the post I originally quoted right (which obviously could be not the case), it was a shot at Axiom Empire who after the complete and utter defeat of ASCN was quite quick to get positive standings with BoB so they could also "win". At that point in time there was no even a "choo choo" yet.
Axiom Empire looked at a number of options. We had offers from all over Eve to join and do different things. We went into the drone regions for a bit, we entertained some other options but it really came down to changing who and what we are.
For 3+ years I have worked with the likes of the coalition. And its always the same attitude. Always the same game. The carebears get richer and the pvpers do all the work. I have watched BoB grow over those same years always hoping that I could help another alliance reach that level of teamwork and committment. I think we came close with ASCN but a number of things occurred, prior to and during the BoB war, that doomed ASCN.
You can see the same attitudes today. There is no teamwork. Your all whining about BoB and the "pets", game mechanics, etc etc etc. I refused to be part of that again. I saw it in Xetic, I saw it in ASCN, hell, I even saw it my own alliance. The greedy get rich and the guys who worked so hard to protect their assets, so they could make all that isk, get left with nothing. D2/G and their "pets", RA, GOONS, the primary movers and shakers in the coalition have always been regarded as hostile to Axe and DDC. BoB and DDC have had our moments but we have always been straight up with each other.
So when it came down to which side is Steel Rat and DDC going to fall on, I think its rather obvious I would side with a group of people who know about teamwork and don't whine about game mechanics and titans and get stuff done, who I have known since before Eve and win or lose, I knew me and my corp would have fun and lots of pewpew.
After almost 2 months of looking around for a new place to hang Axe's hat, BoB and I came to an agreement. We haven't looked back since. It has been the best move I could have done for Axe. If the coalition pulls together and removes their heads from each others posteriors, they could very well beat BoB and its "pets". BoB could own all of 0.0. Either way, Axe is and will continue to have fun flying alongside some of the best pilots and teamwork in the game.
But please, Axe didn't join BoB to "win" Eve. We joined BoB so the allied channels we are in, aren't full of whining and blame. They are full of people doing their best and putting it on the line.
I agree with Steel on his choice. The game gets alot more enjoyable when you got people who are motivated and will do anything to finish the mission or to finish something. I think alot of people would like to sit down, not follow the bandwagon people who jump on and off every other week.
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