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Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:26:00 - [151] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Arenis Xemdal People didn't side with us because we had good propaganda, they just didn't want to be associated with bad propaganda. You're wrong. People sided with you because they thought you would win. I talked to a few of them and that's the major one. Reasons for this varied, but everything cropped up. Also this is straying but the second biggest reason was that people thought you were boring to fight, and the cause was not really worth it unless their alliance would prosper doing it. The second part here holds the most thruth I think. People normally loose against you so therefore quite a few don't even want to commit to the fight because their alliance would suffer, and this is a good job on your behalf. Maybe some just found the witch hunt and propaganda in the beginning rediculous and considering, who the backbone of the rapetrain was, they picked their side and wanted to see it crash into a wall. ___________ Muuuhhh !!!
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:26:00 - [152] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/05/2007 09:03:52 Originally by: George Petsch Originally by: Lord WarATron There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming. But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum. After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw. Great stuff and keep it coming! In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none. might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to. Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics. Thankfully eve rewards Tactics > Numbers everyday. If you have good tactics, you will have already planned for titan blasts. All that will happen in 6 months time is that Titan blasts will continue being used as an exceuse when people can no longer foum up super blobs with no stratagy. Nuff said. Personally I think in 6 months time, there are a few options of what is going on: - you will sit here on the forums wondering, why the hell won't anyone fight us? - your current 'allies' sit here, wondering, why the hell is BoB shooting us? Or do you expect to be in the Civil War scenario I keep hearing about? Or is that just a rumor? signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
Lady Gadiva Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:27:00 - [153] Greetings. :)
Lexiana Del'Amore Gallente Equilibrium Society	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:27:00 - [154] Well done BoB Where do i sign up to become a pet?
maGz Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:31:00 - [155] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: Zeros Omega Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24 I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people! While alot of credit goes to command. Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance. Teamwork All nighters before work People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing These are what won the day so far! <edit: spelling> I dont know why, but this is actually the first time I felt truly sorry for bob members. You make a very good point Lunas. Accomplishing something, which bob holds dearly as its #1 goal seems to have superseeded chillaxing and having fun. Has EVE come to the point where the ends justify the means, where to beat an opponent is to suffer longer and where the only shred of fun sipping through come in one persons self-chosen divine right to brag about it on the forums afterwards? Are people like Ev0ke truly the loosers in this conflict, or just the ones with foresight not to be smothered in excessive drawn out scenarios where the only difference between winning and loosing is how much effort your can collectively put into one place at one time. Effort /= Fun. If you can sit back at somepoint down the line and say "it was worth it", then good on you. But I refuse to believe that 2200 bob + 5/10k allies all subscribe to the doctorgonzo school of thought with regards to this. This cannot be repeated enough... So QFT. Nice stats. Must be fun for the capital pilots... ____________
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:34:00 - [156] Originally by: Will Fireblade Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10 Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42 With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days. BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans. History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this. This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself. D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP. RZR is like a feather in the wind. Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough. IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think. AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this. Yah, guess this sums it up pretty well. Only consolation is that towards the end of the ASCN war I was thinking: how the hell did I end up in an alliance with such incompetent idiots in HC. But it seems ASCN was certainly not the only poorly led alliance. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:34:00 - [157] Originally by: Darko1107 Most be the single most hypocritical thing ive hever heard. Who sees themselves as grownups while using words such as "totalhelldeath" which make absolutely no sense at all. I made up words when i was 5. Personally I loved it when Oveur used EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH at the Fanfest . Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106 PvP Tournament Semi-Finalist - 2006 FanFest
Twoside Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:39:00 - [158] Edited by: Twoside on 11/05/2007 09:38:53 Originally by: Robert Dobbs (...) Now it's our turn. Didn't you say that 91 days ago? Also, in the math, please also include the ISK you needed to pour into your blue-making machine, I must say that I'm very impressed how you managed to get other people to fight for you, while hiding behind your capitals yourself. Last but not least, thanks to all Boblets for showing their true face again on the forum, much appreciated. (edit: wrong button 4tl)
OSughhi Romanian Army of ManiaCS	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:43:00 - [159] Originally by: Vile rat Originally by: Orange Species The blaimtrain are going into the ascn phase atm, whining about the game [in this case titans] rather than looking within for a new strategy. This is time for serious business, unfortunatly t1 damper ravens with a dampening range of 12 feet isn't. The problems lie within, you have nobody to blame but your own leadership and when they make threads on goon forums about what game to play next, you can see that their commitment, is, well, "lacking". Speaking of this there is a very in depth and well thought out discussion about titans located in this thread. Titan discussion Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door. Seriously, coalition dont lose to titans. I the dark hours for bob and big push for coalition was delve under siege and 2 versus 2 titans. Coalition deployed fleets several bigger and capitals almost twice numbers. Bob territory was battle ground, LV was gone in npc stations and what was happened in the end? If you think titans are so broken why you are now without one. Mighty RA with such big isk gaining from plexes, even are in bob land, why cannot bring 2 or 3 titans to battle ground? I see, Bob realise how to use fleets and ships properly to get a fight and win. Coalition with rest of eve land without any danger what bring on battle? Only Whinnings about titans. Titan pilots of BoB of right to laugh on you.
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:44:00 - [160] snip - trolling - hutch Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs

Stoned Celt Bloodnok Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:53:00 - [161] snip refers to a removed post - hutch
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:55:00 - [162] Originally by: George Petsch Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/05/2007 09:03:52 Originally by: George Petsch Originally by: Lord WarATron There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming. But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum. After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw. Great stuff and keep it coming! In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none. might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to. Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics. Thankfully eve rewards Tactics > Numbers everyday. If you have good tactics, you will have already planned for titan blasts. All that will happen in 6 months time is that Titan blasts will continue being used as an exceuse when people can no longer foum up super blobs with no stratagy. Nuff said. I see your point, and if it was that way, i'd be really happy. The problem is I have seen a titan pilot DDing a 10 man gatecamp. Maybe I'm alone here, but i think this doesn't "feel right".. Since nobody sheds any tears for the 1 month old newbie who gets his first cruiser ganked by a 10 man gatecamp, why should the community care if the gankers get killed? What are the chances of survival of the 1 month old newbie jumping into a gatecamp vs 15 seconds for gatecampers to warp out? What does not "feel right" about this? Since you claim to have seen, then I can only assume that you lost your ship, and therefore do not like the form of merciless punishment that you freely give out. -- Billion Isk Mission
LancerSix Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.11 09:55:00 - [163] Warning A slight tangent, don't read this is if your easily distracted. Originally by: Queen News Originally by: MacDuncan Originally by: Queen News Like AXE e.g.? Axe Axe lived in Xelas space for the most part being given there own little section of it. Not sure if Axe have gotten anything, they seem to have disappeared from fountain, which Xelas cry's about daily on there forums. Whats all this talk about AXE all of a sudden? Anyway, to say your wrong on a few counts is quite the understatement. Anyhoo, time for a little story. Once upon a time AXE lived in Impass, and it was good. But then, the evil Russians attacked! So, we ask our awesome alliance that we co-founded (ASCN) for help, BUT! BoB had attacked them! The Russians had set us up! It was a trap!!! What ever do we do?! (emphasis mine) Blah blah, fast forward a couple months, we leave Impass for empire and another war is over. Now, having no allegiances we get a call from BoB saying "Hey, y'alls wanna come down and help Xelas hold their borders?" And we're like "0.0 PVP? We're there!" So we move down, our only payment is a share of the Fountain ratting grounds. We keep things light and fast, got some nice kills, took some losses, another day on the front. Now, everyones doing such a damn good job that the front moves up north with MC and company. Naturally, being the bloodthirsty types we are, move up with them and thats where we are now (as our killboards show). I guess my question here is, where did you get it in your head that we lived in Xelas space? We based out of where the action was in the theater that we were needed. We NEVER had our own part of space, nor did we want it, we based out of PNQY-Y. So far, AXE has claimed no sov anywhere. Steel has said many places that at this time he doesn't want it. The fact that Xelas "cry's"(sic) that we're gone tickles me a bit. Not that I dislike Xelas at all, its just that we're a really small alliance with only a handful of primary PVPers. Kind of cool the difference a few good men can make, eh? Anyway, hope that clears some things up. Doc and others in the know, feel free to make corrections. Silly alt, facts are for mains! (Sorry, couldn't resist)
Rasterman Ganja GanjaCorp Security Services	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:24:00 - [164] Originally by: Lorn Yeager Originally by: Will Fireblade Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10 Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42 With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days. BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans. History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this. This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself. D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP. RZR is like a feather in the wind. Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough. IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think. AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this. I salute your honesty ! I salute that the OP you quoted is most likely a planted BoB alt who posted this message at that precise moment to create dissention, distort, and obfuscate.

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:28:00 - [165] Edited by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc on 11/05/2007 10:26:08 O.k im going to try and make this sound as little like a lecture as possible but i a effort to keep this thread open, please do not discus How effective titians are, or what you think should be done with them to balance them - that should be discussed on one of the many other threads in one of the other sections Acusations of cheating, dev, isd involvement, there are threads to discuss that in the Information portal section. If you have evidence of cheating, petition it, if you have evidence of dev involvement please petition it, and it will get esculated to the correct people. Do not use a term "rapetrain" which has become very common in these threads the term is disrepectfull and does not belong in eve-o and i will warn anyone else who uses it in this thread Doing any of the above could earn you a warning, and i would like to see this thread continue hence me trying to nip in the bud the above things. thanks for you time. normal service can be resumed - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| [email protected] \| ME They call me Hutch. I have forgotten why

Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:37:00 - [166] its more of an ape-train than anything else tbph hutch... Your signature <----- My awsome Sig Real men PVP on the Forums.
Rasterman Ganja GanjaCorp Security Services	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:39:00 - [167] Edited by: Rasterman Ganja on 11/05/2007 10:35:58 bleah. death to dupe posts.
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:42:00 - [168] Edited by: Hey You on 11/05/2007 10:39:30 To whoever we were fighting, nice fights most of them. To us, lets have more fun. To our friends, keep having awesome time and Good Job. To fall in love and fall in debt To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane To keep me insane and doing someone else's cocain
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:44:00 - [169] Where are LV stats? The alliance you were entering the war to supposedly defend? If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
hermot Amarr Shadow Monkeys	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:44:00 - [170] Molle owes me 1 bil or i show screenshots of him in a hauler with mining laser

hermot Amarr Shadow Monkeys	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:54:00 - [171] Im not fond of bob i must be honest, but they are good stats for a long war. P.s 1bil molle or the mining in a hauler SS comes out :P
Frances Ducoir Academy of Decadence	Posted - 2007.05.11 10:58:00 - [172] Originally by: SirMolle And most importantly... for every new enemy made, a brother-in-arms is bought or persuaded using conspiracy theories + lies. We are pleased. i guess this is closer to the truth. criticism aside i have to admit bob has done a good job so far BUT you brag about the numbers... (again after the ascn war) and you fail to realize that alliance has a much higher percentage of people participating in the war then coalition. no one can really tell how many coalition + alliance ppl are actually fighting but i guess bob & allies have the + on their side so this is depreciating your "glorious victory" a bit. its not so special. when this war started, i thought whole eve will fight against bob. now its more 50:50 cause so many ppl jumped on the winning side so you can't say "bob won eve". all in all: you have won some nice battles but the whole war isnt as glorious as you want it to be for you (LV anyone? saw some of them doing missions in auvergne ^^). again good job an your BATTLES you won so far. this statement is from a neutral POV cause it won't make any difference for me who wins or looses this war.
Ashido Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:04:00 - [173] Enjoy
Witty Moniker Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:07:00 - [174] Originally by: Eskalin Reserved for witty comment Oh, well I love you too Esk. :) On another note, nice stats. Hello guys. ;) _________________________
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:12:00 - [175] Originally by: Bon Ali This thread is pretty hilarious. Talk about a useless e-peen thread. Honestly, what was the point of it? "LOOK AT ME... PLZ, I MUST BE INTERNET POPULAR. No please look at me." Despite all the talk, hows RSF doing? Oh wait, totally intact and making huge cash reserves? Woops. Propaganda ftw, i guess.
Shinigami Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:14:00 - [176] Edited by: Shinigami on 11/05/2007 11:13:22 Originally by: Frances Ducoir no one can really tell how many coalition + alliance ppl are actually fighting but i guess bob & allies have the + on their side so this is depreciating your "glorious victory" a bit. its not so special. You need to train Excuses to level five because level one just isn't going cut it. Luckily for you it's a rank one skill. --- Help reduce lag in eve by supporting the Titans. Screenshots
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:15:00 - [177] its been fun and work in the same time, but i think i can say for all bob "we want more!1!1" give your best guys, its for the fun. ok our fun but anyway better we have fun then nobody have fun
Mad Mackem E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:16:00 - [178] Well done, EVE on easy mode must be so much fun. CCP and their capital ships have ruined our great game. Regards
R0niN kR0	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:19:00 - [179] Originally by: Tayler Derden i heard that bob not post losses so.. maybe tards like you should first look at your kb and post that nxy you lose?
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:19:00 - [180] Originally by: Mad Mackem Well done, EVE on easy mode must be so much fun. CCP and their capital ships have ruined our great game. Regards haha says the guys of the "20000 people"-coalition. hah eve on easy mode, you have a strange perception of reality... really...



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