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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:42:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Vile rat Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:30:22 Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:29:29 Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:28:56 Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door.
Yes because that thread is clearly not prejudice in its construction at all. The fact that your forums state you wanted someone to create a big whine thread on eve-o about it to get them nerfed is well, drawing straws.
As one of goons "leaders", maybe like i said look within.
But no, blame, blame, blame.
It is most amusing to watch though, so please, do continue. I am sure your suggestion for the titan to be nerfed to the use of rookie ship capability is clearly the way forward.
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:42:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Originally by: Darko1107 Youve acused certain people of being bitter, while calling them mosquito's, and saying they "utter nonsense", while only backing it up with your own arrogance.
I am backing it up with my own arrogance. What are you using to back your sayings? 2 years worth of successive failures?
Darko, it's ok. Someone always has to be the bitter pup. I personally am glad it got to be you.
Haha, Please, what have you achieved? How to be told how to fly a mothership?
My point, which you quite clearly have missed, is that, why do i need to be important at all to make the posts that I did? Why does me being a super duper Eve leader mean I'll know more about hypocrissy, like my first post. Why does it mean i know bob leadership is elite, and that BoB members are lemmings, like my second post?
You were trying to act like top notch BoB stud, all important and omnipotent, with your pathetic attempts to put people down. When really your just part of the riff raff.
And tbh, make me out to be as bitter as you want. I think everyone can see im actually not by my reasonably light hearted posts compared to your downright rudeness.
Ok pettle? ------------------
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Liora Vahan
Gallente Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:43:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Shin Ra Has EVE come to the point where the ends justify the means, where to beat an opponent is to suffer longer and where the only shred of fun sipping through come in one persons self-chosen divine right to brag about it on the forums afterwards?
I can't believe i'm quoting Shin Ra. He speaks the truth.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:43:00 -
[124]
Originally by: MacDuncan
Originally by: Queen News
Originally by: MacDuncan
I think you will find most people that are on BoB's side chose to be on that side before this war started or near the start of it anyway, and at that point D2 + friends where putting together massive fleets, -a- was attacking MC, Fix was being attacked by like 5 alliances. So not really sure you can say they chose the side that was winning.
Like AXE e.g.?
Axe, Xelas, Fix, Aftermath, Fatal, Rise, and a few others. They all had choices, anyone of them could have chosen the other side.
But would it be the "easier choice" instead of being thrown out of their "home space"? And anyway...why i'm arguing with an obivious alt? What about us? Are you actually suggesting we should align ourselves with entities that usurped us from Impass, instead of an entity we've shared a long standing good relationship of several years?
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BuIIseye
Amarr Pax Amarria Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:43:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: SirMolle drabble
You wouldn't have achieved any of this if you didn't had all the Devs/GM's on your side.
What's going to be phase 4, ban everyone in the Coalition?
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:46:00 -
[126]
There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.
But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.
After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.
Great stuff and keep it coming! --
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:48:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 11/05/2007 08:44:37
Originally by: Orange Species
Originally by: Vile rat Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:30:22 Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:29:29 Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:28:56 Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door.
Yes because that thread is clearly not prejudice in its construction at all. The fact that your forums state you wanted someone to create a big whine thread on eve-o about it to get them nerfed is well, drawing straws.
As one of goons "leaders", maybe like i said look within.
But no, blame, blame, blame.
It is most amusing to watch though, so please, do continue. I am sure your suggestion for the titan to be nerfed to the use of rookie ship capability is clearly the way forward.
Oh look, a titan pilot isnt whining about titans.... Next you'll be telling me pigs can fly!
BoB have 5 titans, in what, a Year? I Dont know how long they have been out, but in another year you'll have 10. Thats a DD every 6 mins, if thats not overpowered, frankly, I dont know what is.
Not to mention how completely boring that is. But I dont wanna get onto that here. ------------------
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Wolverine PL
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:50:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Originally by: Will Fireblade Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10 Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42 With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.
BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans. History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.
This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.
D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP. RZR is like a feather in the wind. Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough. IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think. AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels
Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.
I salute your honesty !
Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Originally by: Will Fireblade Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10 Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42 With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.
BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans. History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.
This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.
D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP. RZR is like a feather in the wind. Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough. IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think. AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels
Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.
I salute your honesty !
And bob and his slaves (MC etc) are using game exploits like shooting ships in POS, using lag bombs (first fight in C4C) or newest bumping ships with titans from POS which isint an exploit (but bumping empty ships is:/ ) SO yeah BOB congrats, making game for your favor (we all know you made stuff like DD modules or jump portal which takes lots of minerals but almost non m3 to fast build capital ships)
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Will Fireblade
Darwin With Attitude RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:51:00 -
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BoB are masters in pvp and whoever says that it suffers from somekind of delusion. I dont mean that bob are never going to be defeated but what i mean is that if you go after them you better have a plan and the plan the coalition and friends had was at its best childish if non existant.
Also i would like to add that bob have the funds to back up their pvp style which make it very hard for their enemies to keep up not to mention that true power comes from the realization that the enemy is inferior. In order that to happen you need to have a plan and trust and dedication in your abilities and your team something that the coalition proved it didnt had.
End of transimition you can keep up the forum wars i will still keep enjoying the game.
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Arenis Xemdal
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:51:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Silmas Impressive numbers.
The sad thing here is all the blind followers and brown-nosers who make this possible. I argue that BoB's strong point is not their military, but their propaganda and social engineering. Not meaning their military wouldn't be strong as well...
I don't agree with your argument at all, maybe you'll appreciate me explaining, maybe you wont. The same party line that was used to create the Coalition is the same reason people found it fun to fight against it. If you try to polarize the whole of EVE, you better have reason better than what Astarte Nosferatu cites.
People don't want to fight on the side that takes things so seriously, there are plenty of real reasons to want to destroy us. Or how about simply having no reason at all? Besides, Coalition leaders had free reign for three months to say whatever they wanted and get away with it. People didn't side with us because we had good propaganda, they just didn't want to be associated with bad propaganda.
Might of been better if you actually had one person in charge, and one voice. But then it wouldn't be an equal partnership anymore, and you'd have to drop the "lol bob pets" line completely.
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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:51:00 -
[131]
Edited by: Orange Species on 11/05/2007 08:47:42 Oh exploits you say.
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wierchas noobhunter
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:52:00 -
[132]
bob who ?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:52:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Will Fireblade Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10 Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42 With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.
BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans. History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.
This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.
D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP. RZR is like a feather in the wind. Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough. IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think. AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels
Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.
That.... is probably the most honest reasoning i have heard on the forum's from an enemy for as long as i can remember .
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George Petsch
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:54:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Lord WarATron There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.
But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.
After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.
Great stuff and keep it coming!
In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none. might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to.
Everytime you don't fuel your POS God kills a little blue robot
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:54:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 11/05/2007 08:44:37
Originally by: Orange Species
Originally by: Vile rat Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:30:22 Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:29:29 Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:28:56 Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door.
Yes because that thread is clearly not prejudice in its construction at all. The fact that your forums state you wanted someone to create a big whine thread on eve-o about it to get them nerfed is well, drawing straws.
As one of goons "leaders", maybe like i said look within.
But no, blame, blame, blame.
It is most amusing to watch though, so please, do continue. I am sure your suggestion for the titan to be nerfed to the use of rookie ship capability is clearly the way forward.
Oh look, a titan pilot isnt whining about titans.... Next you'll be telling me pigs can fly!
BoB have 5 titans, in what, a Year? I Dont know how long they have been out, but in another year you'll have 10. Thats a DD every 6 mins, if thats not overpowered, frankly, I dont know what is.
Not to mention how completely boring that is. But I dont wanna get onto that here.
Would help if your memebers would participate in producing them instead of beeing simple isk sink (boogie ace, for instance ) -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Laythun
Black Lance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:55:00 -
[136]
Ok. as someone who been in multiple different factions.
The ONLY problem for the coalition was a lack of a long term strategic goal and coordination amoung all parties. past that its all speculation.
Kudos to the peeps in BOB (the ones i like, fk the rest tbh)
Black Lance Brother
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Iva Soreass
FireStar Inc
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:58:00 -
[137]
Originally by: George Petsch Enter random whinage here
Do you ever post without whining ?
Originally by: Farscape Hw,GoonSwarm Member im not a goon
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Tanya Kovacs
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:00:00 -
[138]
Funny thing is:
1) t20-incident 2) Sir Molle made the notorius "pendulum"-announcement. 3) Coalition called to arms, CAOD was full of "yarrr bob!! time to die you ******* cheaters!!"-like posts. A huge blob was formed, LV was stomped into ground by the overwhelming forces of the southern front of the coalition, while the northern front was attacking Fountain and FIX. It almost looked like "whole EVE against BoB and some allies". Rapetrain at it's best.
Now members of the coaltion are complaining they can't beat BoB because some alliances sided with them against this huge blob and call them brownnoses and winnerteamjoiner? --
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:01:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal People didn't side with us because we had good propaganda, they just didn't want to be associated with bad propaganda.
You're wrong. People sided with you because they thought you would win. I talked to a few of them and that's the major one. Reasons for this varied, but everything cropped up.
Also this is straying but the second biggest reason was that people thought you were boring to fight, and the cause was not really worth it unless their alliance would prosper doing it. The second part here holds the most thruth I think. People normally loose against you so therefore quite a few don't even want to commit to the fight because their alliance would suffer, and this is a good job on your behalf.
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Astarte Nosferatu
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:01:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
I don't agree with your argument at all, maybe you'll appreciate me explaining, maybe you wont. The same party line that was used to create the Coalition is the same reason people found it fun to fight against it. If you try to polarize the whole of EVE, you better have reason better than what Astarte Nosferatu cites.
That doesn't take away the fact this game is rigged beyond belief. You guys even had a Dev leading your Capital Ship fleet ffs. Even if T20 was an isolated incident, BoB will never ever going to lose the label of being full of cheating Devs. The chestbeating and arrogance of a lot of BoB members and BoB slaves isn't exactly helping either.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:01:00 -
[141]
Hello,
NERF TITANS http://www.eve-battlestars.net/chow.html
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:05:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/05/2007 09:03:52
Originally by: George Petsch
Originally by: Lord WarATron There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.
But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.
After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.
Great stuff and keep it coming!
In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none. might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to.
Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.
Thankfully eve rewards Tactics > Numbers everyday. If you have good tactics, you will have already planned for titan blasts. All that will happen in 6 months time is that Titan blasts will continue being used as an exceuse when people can no longer foum up super blobs with no stratagy. Nuff said. --
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Jodax
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:08:00 -
[143]
I've had more fun in the last 3 months in BoB then I had in most of my Eve life.
PS <3 Waagaa
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:10:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
I don't agree with your argument at all, maybe you'll appreciate me explaining, maybe you wont. The same party line that was used to create the Coalition is the same reason people found it fun to fight against it. If you try to polarize the whole of EVE, you better have reason better than what Astarte Nosferatu cites.
That doesn't take away the fact this game is rigged beyond belief. You guys even had a Dev leading your Capital Ship fleet ffs. Even if T20 was an isolated incident, BoB will never ever going to lose the label of being full of cheating Devs. The chestbeating and arrogance of a lot of BoB members and BoB slaves isn't exactly helping either.
Quiet, D2 pet. This tripe got old about 90 days ago. You're not fooling anyone except, tragically, yourself.
And by the way, I rule you.
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Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ |
Will Fireblade
Darwin With Attitude RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:13:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.
Hmm opening a cyno and activating your DD weapon (that can annihilate a fleet) then i guess it involves a very difficult strategy for you
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Astarte Nosferatu
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:17:00 -
[146]
Originally by: deathforge
Quiet, D2 pet. This tripe got old about 90 days ago. You're not fooling anyone except, tragically, yourself.
Ooh, I fear thee. Shut up or go beg BoB to ban me.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP
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ALPHA12125
Gallente 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:20:00 -
[147]
Originally by: George Petsch
Originally by: Orange Species The blaimtrain are going into the ascn phase atm, whining about the game [in this case titans] rather than looking within for a new strategy.
This is time for serious business, unfortunatly t1 damper ravens with a dampening range of 12 feet isn't.
The problems lie within, you have nobody to blame but your own leadership and when they make threads on goon forums about what game to play next, you can see that their commitment, is, well, "lacking".
it talks
well its only normal that titans get a life of their own
allthough i admit it is somewhat disturbing
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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:22:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Will Fireblade
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.
Hmm opening a cyno and activating your DD weapon (that can annihilate a fleet) then i guess it involves a very difficult strategy for you
We rarely use a remote dd. Only if lag was too unbearable so you wouldnt load before fleet warps, in which case it would make sense [not to mention if cyno dies, dd stops] and well its prety easy to kill a cynoship that isnt moving in 15 seconds.
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:23:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: deathforge
Quiet, D2 pet. This tripe got old about 90 days ago. You're not fooling anyone except, tragically, yourself.
Ooh, I fear thee. Shut up or go beg BoB to ban me.
To any members of the cryalition, if you ever find yourself awake at night, wondering why no one takes you and your failtrain seriously, remember 3 months of posts like these.
And by the way, I rule you.
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Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ |
George Petsch
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:25:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/05/2007 09:03:52
Originally by: George Petsch
Originally by: Lord WarATron There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.
But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.
After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.
Great stuff and keep it coming!
In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none. might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to.
Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.
Thankfully eve rewards Tactics > Numbers everyday. If you have good tactics, you will have already planned for titan blasts. All that will happen in 6 months time is that Titan blasts will continue being used as an exceuse when people can no longer foum up super blobs with no stratagy. Nuff said.
I see your point, and if it was that way, i'd be really happy. The problem is I have seen a titan pilot DDing a 10 man gatecamp. Maybe I'm alone here, but i think this doesn't "feel right"..
Everytime you don't fuel your POS God kills a little blue robot
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