Originally by: Kayosoni

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all who post below have aids

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Originally by: LancerSix

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Edited by: LancerSix on 11/05/2007 06:26:12
Good job guys, lets keep up the good work and finish this once and for all.

Also, does this mean the blanket silence by BoB members is officially off? I'll be interesting to see what they have to say.

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Originally by: MrTripps

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combat in Jita is as slow and ugly as watching senior citizens copulate.

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Gratz. Lets hope things pick up some, I bought all these carriers and nobody seems to want to kill them :(

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Originally by: SirMolle

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Edited by: SirMolle on 11/05/2007 06:22:46


On February 10th Band of Brothers announced it was time to move onto the second phase of the largest premeditated conflict in history. Like clockwork, enemies rose to the occasion and constructed the single largest organization of players ever seen; some 20,000 characters, two dozen alliances, and 21 regions. With complete superiority in manpower and assets, this Coalition embarked on a very simple mission: to annihilate us.

The following are the results of the last 90 days taken from our killboard. These don't include damages inflicted and sustained by allies anywhere, we leave that for their announcements.

Capitals
129 destroyed
17 lost

Battleships
2840 destroyed
535 lost

Capsules
5653 destroyed
835 lost

Total
18941 ships destroyed
3900 ships lost

Accuracy for ships is high but does not consider battles where the brunt of the work was being done by allies.

Starbases
148 destroyed
15 lost

Accuracy for Starbases may be off by as much as 15-20% either way, only counts Towers and excludes anything that was stolen.

Unlike the previous war this one involved many alliances and killboards, making it impossible to calculate for ISK. Tentative figures place the total cost of this war at 2-3 Trillion, outshining the previous.

People have argued the stats mean nothing if the job is done. Of the 52 stations under what is considered BoB space, 11 fell under siege and were repelled. Of all the regions initially considered Coalition space, three have been lost with two others under siege. Of all the battles fought in EVE, the Coalition set a new record for the largest failure of intelligence in history. And most importantly... for every new enemy made, a brother-in-arms is found.

We are pleased.

Like the conflict before it, and the one before that, this day marks yet another era of destruction. The third phase of the Pendulum War. Larger battles, bigger damage, higher risks, tougher struggles. We want more, can you say the same?

For whichever side you fight... you'll be lucky to see the fourth phase.

P.S.
Say hello, BoB

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Originally by: Neutral News

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Where are LV, MWA and gunboat diplomacy. Oh yeah haha empire. And don't act like attacking the north was part of your plan. You said CHOW (chowdown of lv) we're stealing your targets. The pendulum war was supposed to be in the south.

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Originally by: SirMolle

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*STUFF*

P.S.
Say hello, BoB

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Originally by: SirMolle

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Edited by: SirMolle on 11/05/2007 06:22:46

For whichever side you fight... you'll be lucky to see the fourth phase.

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Molle, we will all see the 4th phase. It'a game. If you doomsday ppl in here, they don't fall dead from their chair, neither their computer explodes.

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Originally by: Nifel

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Molle, we will all see the 4th phase. It'a game. If you doomsday ppl in here, they don't fall dead from their chair, neither their computer explodes.

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And what if the coalation drops dead before a 4th phase? I might read it wrong, but that's how I read it. Step up the game lads ^^.

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24
I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people!

While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal

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Originally by: Nifel

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Molle, we will all see the 4th phase. It'a game. If you doomsday ppl in here, they don't fall dead from their chair, neither their computer explodes.

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And what if the coalation drops dead before a 4th phase? I might read it wrong, but that's how I read it. Step up the game lads ^^.

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No, seeing it is not the same as reading about it on the EVE Online forums. People drop out of active participation in the conflict on both sides every time, usually when they stop having fun. There were corps/alliances dropping out from the conflict after a few weeks or months. It doesn't all happen on the same day we happen to make a post declaring change.

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Sad to see that bob's ingame achievements will always be fazed by such clumsy announcements.

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Originally by: George Petsch

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So please, you are no leader of a mighty fighting force.
You are playing an intarweb spaceshipgame for 4 years, that doesn't make you alexander the great...

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24
I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people!

While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24
I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people!

While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24
I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people!

While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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Shift down a gear guys, or this will end up as the bob vs. ppl-who-still-have-a-life war

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: George Petsch

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So please, you are no leader of a mighty fighting force.
You are playing an intarweb spaceshipgame for 4 years, that doesn't make you alexander the great...

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So why do you still play? seems like you're frustrated over a intarweb spaceshipgame, now that's a real problem. At least the OP is having fun.

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Originally by: ACHURA CALDARIAN

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ah i thought Molle selling a 90 days GTCs to help BOB funds :)

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Originally by: Ria Sotori

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Hi Boys & Girls,

Your beachheads became graveyards
Your Pos spamming became derelicts
Your forum propoganda fell short
Your fleet commanding was embarassing
Your intel was a joke
Your strategy was hysterical
Your choo choo was derailed

In short, playtime is over. Let the grownups show you how its done.

Welcome to TotalHellDeath Online :D

xoxox

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: George Petsch

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So please, you are no leader of a mighty fighting force.
You are playing an intarweb spaceshipgame for 4 years, that doesn't make you alexander the great...

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So why do you still play? seems like you're frustrated over a intarweb spaceshipgame, now that's a real problem. At least the OP is having fun.

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No, i enjoy killing your pets
plus, post with your main.

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: George Petsch

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So please, you are no leader of a mighty fighting force.
You are playing an intarweb spaceshipgame for 4 years, that doesn't make you alexander the great...

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So why do you still play? seems like you're frustrated over a intarweb spaceshipgame, now that's a real problem. At least the OP is having fun.

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No, i enjoy killing your pets
plus, post with your main.

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Originally by: Phoenixgurl

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We are the elite of Eve. Welcome to hell!

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Originally by: Queen News

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: George Petsch

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So please, you are no leader of a mighty fighting force.
You are playing an intarweb spaceshipgame for 4 years, that doesn't make you alexander the great...

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So why do you still play? seems like you're frustrated over a intarweb spaceshipgame, now that's a real problem. At least the OP is having fun.

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No, i enjoy killing your pets
plus, post with your main.

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Yes we can all see how well that is working out. How many BoB pets have lost there space so far. Thats right zero. How many BoB pets have gained space so far, atleast 3 that I know of. Sounds like BoB is getting bigger.

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: George Petsch

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So please, you are no leader of a mighty fighting force.
You are playing an intarweb spaceshipgame for 4 years, that doesn't make you alexander the great...

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So why do you still play? seems like you're frustrated over a intarweb spaceshipgame, now that's a real problem. At least the OP is having fun.

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No, i enjoy killing your pets
plus, post with your main.

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Wait, you enjoy killing my pets? are you threatening my dog? Or does this kind of logic only works for you when you try to troll?

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Edited by: Darcuese on 11/05/2007 07:51:01
Anyway, I have to thanks some ppl on coalition side for entertainment we had last 2-3 monhts.

We won fights, sometimes we lost.

ATM statistic might be on our side, but I wish there could be better coordination on coalition side so this space events could continue . It does seem that alliances on coalition side are spreaded more then needed atm, but we will see what future prepared for all of us

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Originally by: Ria Sotori

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Hi Boys & Girls,

Your beachheads became graveyards
Your Pos spamming became derelicts
Your forum propoganda fell short
Your fleet commanding was embarassing
Your intel was a joke
Your strategy was hysterical
Your choo choo was derailed

In short, playtime is over. Let the grownups show you how its done.

Welcome to TotalHellDeath Online :D

xoxox

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Originally by: Riwer

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Edited by: Riwer on 11/05/2007 07:45:47

PS - Stop running away bastards, I have +200 kills in this ship and the voices in my head demands more!

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Originally by: Juan Andalusian

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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 11/05/2007 07:59:24
Why are the members of mosquito alliances like Razor and Iron posting like they matter in any conceivable way?

Kindly make room for more important people and stop your bitter drivel of utter nonsense.

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Originally by: Juan Andalusian

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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 11/05/2007 07:59:24
Why are the members of mosquito alliances like Razor and Iron posting like they matter in any conceivable way?

Kindly make room for more important people and stop your bitter drivel of utter nonsense.

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24
I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people!

While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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Originally by: Juan Andalusian

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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 11/05/2007 07:59:24
Why are the members of mosquito alliances like Razor and Iron posting like they matter in any conceivable way?

Kindly make room for more important people and stop your bitter drivel of utter nonsense.

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Impressive stats but you have to understand that the coalition isn't fighting just bob, they are fighting their allies aswell.

These stats doesn't give a fair view on how the war is going in general just from bob's POW.

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Originally by: Phoenixgurl

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We are the elite of Eve. Welcome to hell!

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Nah i'd say your leadership is the elite of eve.

Your just a lemming, back to work.

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Impressive stats but you have to understand that the coalition isn't fighting just bob, they are fighting their allies aswell.

These stats doesn't give a fair view on how the war is going in general just from bob's POW.

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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Nice....also nice to see the pets bragging about "gaining space" and winning...

Quote:

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for every new enemy made, a brother-in-arms is found.

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It's as easy as usual:
Most pets want to "win" so they join the side of BoB which recently kicked the deeply into their a****...and after turning their heads about around 180 degrees out of BoBs a**** they brag about their wisedom...


btw. Molle:
You can't win this game as long ppl like me still playing pve in empire and enjoying it...

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Youve acused certain people of being bitter, while calling them mosquito's, and saying they "utter nonsense", while only backing it up with your own arrogance.

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Originally by: LUKEC

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Originally by: Phoenixgurl

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We are the elite of Eve. Welcome to hell!

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Nah i'd say your leadership is the elite of eve.

Your just a lemming, back to work.

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leader monkey )

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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood

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I dont know why, but this is actually the first time I felt truly sorry for bob members.

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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Originally by: Juan Andalusian

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Youve acused certain people of being bitter, while calling them mosquito's, and saying they "utter nonsense", while only backing it up with your own arrogance.

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I am backing it up with my own arrogance. What are you using to back your sayings? 2 years worth of successive failures?

Darko, it's ok. Someone always has to be the bitter pup. I personally am glad it got to be you.

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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal

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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood

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I dont know why, but this is actually the first time I felt truly sorry for bob members.

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Its either because a one month member makes insights into the personal lives of thousands, or because you believe it. You don't know why, I don't know which. Still one step ahead.

ps Laythum, Juan is involved in the strategic planning of major ops. I don't think your argument works.

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Originally by: Queen News

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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I think you will find most people that are on BoB's side chose to be on that side before this war started or near the start of it anyway, and at that point D2 + friends where putting together massive fleets, -a- was attacking MC, Fix was being attacked by like 5 alliances. So not really sure you can say they chose the side that was winning.

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Impressive stats but you have to understand that the coalition isn't fighting just bob, they are fighting their allies aswell.

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Originally by: Farscape Hw,GoonSwarm Member

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im not a goon

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Originally by: Queen News

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Impressive stats but you have to understand that the coalition isn't fighting just bob, they are fighting their allies aswell.

These stats doesn't give a fair view on how the war is going in general just from bob's POW.

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I agree 100 percent with this. But you also have to be fair and look at all the kills BoB's allies have that BoB was not involved with. If I recall MC + some friends without BoB just killed almost 20 capital ships about a week ago, and a few days later killed another 10 or so. I think if you look at all everything as a hole, BoB's stats are probably pretty accurate.

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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Originally by: Queen News

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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I think you will find most people that are on BoB's side chose to be on that side before this war started or near the start of it anyway, and at that point D2 + friends where putting together massive fleets, -a- was attacking MC, Fix was being attacked by like 5 alliances. So not really sure you can say they chose the side that was winning.

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Like AXE e.g.?

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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24
I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people!

While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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I dont know why, but this is actually the first time I felt truly sorry for bob members.

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10
Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42
With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.

BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans.
History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.

This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.

D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP.
RZR is like a feather in the wind.
Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough.
IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think.
AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels


Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.

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Originally by: Orange Species

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The blaimtrain are going into the ascn phase atm, whining about the game [in this case titans] rather than looking within for a new strategy.

This is time for serious business, unfortunatly t1 damper ravens with a dampening range of 12 feet isn't.

The problems lie within, you have nobody to blame but your own leadership and when they make threads on goon forums about what game to play next, you can see that their commitment, is, well, "lacking".

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Originally by: SirMolle

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drabble

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You wouldn't have achieved any of this if you didn't had all the Devs/GM's on your side.

What's going to be phase 4, ban everyone in the Coalition?

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:30:22
Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:29:29
Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:28:56
Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door.

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Originally by: Juan Andalusian

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Youve acused certain people of being bitter, while calling them mosquito's, and saying they "utter nonsense", while only backing it up with your own arrogance.

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I am backing it up with my own arrogance. What are you using to back your sayings? 2 years worth of successive failures?

Darko, it's ok. Someone always has to be the bitter pup. I personally am glad it got to be you.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Has EVE come to the point where the ends justify the means, where to beat an opponent is to suffer longer and where the only shred of fun sipping through come in one persons self-chosen divine right to brag about it on the forums afterwards?

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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Originally by: Queen News

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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I think you will find most people that are on BoB's side chose to be on that side before this war started or near the start of it anyway, and at that point D2 + friends where putting together massive fleets, -a- was attacking MC, Fix was being attacked by like 5 alliances. So not really sure you can say they chose the side that was winning.

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Like AXE e.g.?

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Originally by: SirMolle

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drabble

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You wouldn't have achieved any of this if you didn't had all the Devs/GM's on your side.

What's going to be phase 4, ban everyone in the Coalition?

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Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:30:22
Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:29:29
Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:28:56
Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door.

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Yes because that thread is clearly not prejudice in its construction at all. The fact that your forums state you wanted someone to create a big whine thread on eve-o about it to get them nerfed is well, drawing straws.

As one of goons "leaders", maybe like i said look within.

But no, blame, blame, blame.

It is most amusing to watch though, so please, do continue. I am sure your suggestion for the titan to be nerfed to the use of rookie ship capability is clearly the way forward.

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Originally by: Lorn Yeager

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10
Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42
With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.

BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans.
History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.

This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.

D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP.
RZR is like a feather in the wind.
Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough.
IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think.
AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels


Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.

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I salute your honesty !

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Originally by: Lorn Yeager

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10
Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42
With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.

BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans.
History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.

This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.

D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP.
RZR is like a feather in the wind.
Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough.
IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think.
AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels


Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.

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I salute your honesty !

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Originally by: Silmas

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Impressive numbers.

The sad thing here is all the blind followers and brown-nosers who make this possible. I argue that BoB's strong point is not their military, but their propaganda and social engineering. Not meaning their military wouldn't be strong as well...

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10
Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42
With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.

BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans.
History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.

This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.

D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP.
RZR is like a feather in the wind.
Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough.
IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think.
AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels


Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.

But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.

After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.

Great stuff and keep it coming!

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 11/05/2007 08:44:37

Originally by: Orange Species

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:30:22
Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:29:29
Edited by: Vile rat on 11/05/2007 08:28:56
Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door.

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Yes because that thread is clearly not prejudice in its construction at all. The fact that your forums state you wanted someone to create a big whine thread on eve-o about it to get them nerfed is well, drawing straws.

As one of goons "leaders", maybe like i said look within.

But no, blame, blame, blame.

It is most amusing to watch though, so please, do continue. I am sure your suggestion for the titan to be nerfed to the use of rookie ship capability is clearly the way forward.

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Oh look, a titan pilot isnt whining about titans.... Next you'll be telling me pigs can fly!

BoB have 5 titans, in what, a Year? I Dont know how long they have been out, but in another year you'll have 10. Thats a DD every 6 mins, if thats not overpowered, frankly, I dont know what is.

Not to mention how completely boring that is. But I dont wanna get onto that here.

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Enter random whinage here

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Originally by: Farscape Hw,GoonSwarm Member

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im not a goon

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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal

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People didn't side with us because we had good propaganda, they just didn't want to be associated with bad propaganda.

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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal

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I don't agree with your argument at all, maybe you'll appreciate me explaining, maybe you wont. The same party line that was used to create the Coalition is the same reason people found it fun to fight against it. If you try to polarize the whole of EVE, you better have reason better than what Astarte Nosferatu cites.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.

But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.

After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.

Great stuff and keep it coming!

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In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none.
might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to.

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal

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I don't agree with your argument at all, maybe you'll appreciate me explaining, maybe you wont. The same party line that was used to create the Coalition is the same reason people found it fun to fight against it. If you try to polarize the whole of EVE, you better have reason better than what Astarte Nosferatu cites.

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That doesn't take away the fact this game is rigged beyond belief. You guys even had a Dev leading your Capital Ship fleet ffs. Even if T20 was an isolated incident, BoB will never ever going to lose the label of being full of cheating Devs. The chestbeating and arrogance of a lot of BoB members and BoB slaves isn't exactly helping either.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.

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Originally by: deathforge

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Quiet, D2 pet. This tripe got old about 90 days ago. You're not fooling anyone except, tragically, yourself.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Orange Species

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The blaimtrain are going into the ascn phase atm, whining about the game [in this case titans] rather than looking within for a new strategy.

This is time for serious business, unfortunatly t1 damper ravens with a dampening range of 12 feet isn't.

The problems lie within, you have nobody to blame but your own leadership and when they make threads on goon forums about what game to play next, you can see that their commitment, is, well, "lacking".

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it talks

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.

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Hmm opening a cyno and activating your DD weapon (that can annihilate a fleet) then i guess it involves a very difficult strategy for you

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Originally by: deathforge

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Quiet, D2 pet. This tripe got old about 90 days ago. You're not fooling anyone except, tragically, yourself.

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Ooh, I fear thee. Shut up or go beg BoB to ban me.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/05/2007 09:03:52

Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.

But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.

After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.

Great stuff and keep it coming!

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In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none.
might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to.

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Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.

Thankfully eve rewards Tactics > Numbers everyday. If you have good tactics, you will have already planned for titan blasts. All that will happen in 6 months time is that Titan blasts will continue being used as an exceuse when people can no longer foum up super blobs with no stratagy. Nuff said.

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Originally by: Fred0

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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal

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People didn't side with us because we had good propaganda, they just didn't want to be associated with bad propaganda.

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You're wrong. People sided with you because they thought you would win. I talked to a few of them and that's the major one. Reasons for this varied, but everything cropped up.

Also this is straying but the second biggest reason was that people thought you were boring to fight, and the cause was not really worth it unless their alliance would prosper doing it. The second part here holds the most thruth I think. People normally loose against you so therefore quite a few don't even want to commit to the fight because their alliance would suffer, and this is a good job on your behalf.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/05/2007 09:03:52

Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.

But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.

After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.

Great stuff and keep it coming!

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In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none.
might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to.

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Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.

Thankfully eve rewards Tactics > Numbers everyday. If you have good tactics, you will have already planned for titan blasts. All that will happen in 6 months time is that Titan blasts will continue being used as an exceuse when people can no longer foum up super blobs with no stratagy. Nuff said.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood

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Originally by: Zeros Omega

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Edited by: Zeros Omega on 11/05/2007 06:49:24
I would rather have a wall of expert warriors, then a giant stone wall built on the backs of 20,000 people!

While alot of credit goes to command.
Most of it goes to all the pilots in the alliance.
Teamwork
All nighters before work
People who are getting yelled at by their significant others and still playing
These are what won the day so far!
<edit: spelling>

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I dont know why, but this is actually the first time I felt truly sorry for bob members.

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You make a very good point Lunas. Accomplishing something, which bob holds dearly as its #1 goal seems to have superseeded chillaxing and having fun. Has EVE come to the point where the ends justify the means, where to beat an opponent is to suffer longer and where the only shred of fun sipping through come in one persons self-chosen divine right to brag about it on the forums afterwards? Are people like Ev0ke truly the loosers in this conflict, or just the ones with foresight not to be smothered in excessive drawn out scenarios where the only difference between winning and loosing is how much effort your can collectively put into one place at one time. Effort /= Fun. If you can sit back at somepoint down the line and say "it was worth it", then good on you. But I refuse to believe that 2200 bob + 5/10k allies all subscribe to the doctorgonzo school of thought with regards to this.

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10
Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42
With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.

BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans.
History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.

This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.

D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP.
RZR is like a feather in the wind.
Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough.
IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think.
AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels


Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Most be the single most hypocritical thing ive hever heard. Who sees themselves as grownups while using words such as "totalhelldeath" which make absolutely no sense at all. I made up words when i was 5.

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Originally by: Robert Dobbs

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(...)
Now it's our turn.

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Originally by: Orange Species

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The blaimtrain are going into the ascn phase atm, whining about the game [in this case titans] rather than looking within for a new strategy.

This is time for serious business, unfortunatly t1 damper ravens with a dampening range of 12 feet isn't.

The problems lie within, you have nobody to blame but your own leadership and when they make threads on goon forums about what game to play next, you can see that their commitment, is, well, "lacking".

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Speaking of this there is a very in depth and well thought out discussion about titans located in this thread.

Titan discussion

Everybody is encouraged to read and comment about the thoughts provided there however please leave your alliance/corp prejudices at the door.

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/05/2007 09:03:52

Originally by: George Petsch

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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There have been many memorable battles so far. Battles on all levels - Capital warfare, roaming gangs, fleets. All great stuff - keep it coming.

But one battle I will never forget was a simple 1v1 with my patented Shield Tanked Launcher Curse, vs a Passive Purger Drake. Some may argue that both ships are stupidly overpowered in these types of setups, but that is a issue for another forum.

After approx 15 minutes of fighting alone in local, we both laughed that we could not break each others tank and called it a mutual draw.

Great stuff and keep it coming!

---

In 6 month from now the battle would have ended with a DD blast. try to keep it in memory, the chances of experiencing it again are slim to none.
might be abit exaggerated, but sadly this is the direction this game is moving to.

---

Titan blasts are an excellent way to remove blobs that contain no cohearent stratagy, other than to put together the biggist blob in some vain hope that Numbers > Tactics.

Thankfully eve rewards Tactics > Numbers everyday. If you have good tactics, you will have already planned for titan blasts. All that will happen in 6 months time is that Titan blasts will continue being used as an exceuse when people can no longer foum up super blobs with no stratagy. Nuff said.

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I see your point, and if it was that way, i'd be really happy.
The problem is I have seen a titan pilot DDing a 10 man gatecamp.
Maybe I'm alone here, but i think this doesn't "feel right"..

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Originally by: Queen News

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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Originally by: Queen News

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Like AXE e.g.?

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Axe

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Axe lived in Xelas space for the most part being given there own little section of it.
Not sure if Axe have gotten anything, they seem to have disappeared from fountain, which Xelas cry's about daily on there forums.

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Originally by: Lorn Yeager

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Originally by: Will Fireblade

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Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:28:10
Edited by: Will Fireblade on 11/05/2007 08:26:42
With great sadness i have to say this but the truth has to be said. I was one of the pilots who really wanted to take the fight to bob and do some dmg. I think i first realized that bob are not going to be defeated the first week of the war or was it the first 5 days.

BoB have the players, the skills, the friends and the funds to confront any alliance and any size of blob. Not to mention that this game has changed drastically with the introduction of the Titans.
History repeat itself and it proves once again that isk if they are not combined with dedication and experience in pvp dont mean anything. The task was simple, work together to kill bob, how hard can that be??? all we had to do was to assign different systems to different alliances i mean how many systems can bob fight at the same time? Coalition and friends was unable to complete even a simple task like this.

This war has been lost the min it started. Let me explain myself.

D2 have the numbers and the isk but honestly they suck in PvP.
RZR is like a feather in the wind.
Goons have numbers (in techI frigs), now they have dreads but they fly them like frigs still andas it seems thats not enough.
IRON need to drop their egos and realize that they are not so good as they think.
AAA i have never seen them, and i dont mean on the battlefield but not even on the intell channels


Forgive me if iam forgetting anyone but this is the truth and as much as it hurts to admit everyone deep inside know this.

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I salute your honesty !

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1. How effective titians are, or what you think should be done with them to balance them - that should be discussed on one of the many other threads in one of the other sections


2. Acusations of cheating, dev, isd involvement, there are threads to discuss that in the Information portal section. If you have evidence of cheating, petition it, if you have evidence of dev involvement please petition it, and it will get esculated to the correct people.


3. Do not use a term "rapetrain" which has become very common in these threads the term is disrepectfull and does not belong in eve-o and i will warn anyone else who uses it in this thread

They call me Hutch. I have forgotten why

Originally by: SirMolle

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And most importantly... for every new enemy made, a brother-in-arms is bought or persuaded using conspiracy theories + lies.

We are pleased.

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Originally by: Eskalin

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Reserved for witty comment

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Originally by: Bon Ali

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This thread is pretty hilarious. Talk about a useless e-peen thread. Honestly, what was the point of it? "LOOK AT ME... PLZ, I MUST BE INTERNET POPULAR. No please look at me."

Despite all the talk, hows RSF doing? Oh wait, totally intact and making huge cash reserves? Woops. Propaganda ftw, i guess.

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Originally by: Frances Ducoir

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no one can really tell how many coalition + alliance ppl are actually fighting but i guess bob & allies have the + on their side so this is depreciating your "glorious victory" a bit. its not so special.

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Originally by: Tayler Derden

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i heard that bob not post losses so..

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Originally by: Mad Mackem

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Well done, EVE on easy mode must be so much fun.

CCP and their capital ships have ruined our great game.

Regards

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Originally by: Faramir.

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Our turn.

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Originally by: Frances Ducoir

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Originally by: SirMolle

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And most importantly... for every new enemy made, a brother-in-arms is bought or persuaded using conspiracy theories + lies.

We are pleased.

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i guess this is closer to the truth.

criticism aside i have to admit bob has done a good job so far BUT you brag about the numbers... (again after the ascn war) and you fail to realize that alliance has a much higher percentage of people participating in the war then coalition.

no one can really tell how many coalition + alliance ppl are actually fighting but i guess bob & allies have the + on their side so this is depreciating your "glorious victory" a bit. its not so special.

when this war started, i thought whole eve will fight against bob. now its more 50:50 cause so many ppl jumped on the winning side so you can't say "bob won eve".

all in all: you have won some nice battles but the whole war isnt as glorious as you want it to be for you (LV anyone? saw some of them doing missions in auvergne ^^).

again good job an your BATTLES you won so far.
this statement is from a neutral POV cause it won't make any difference for me who wins or looses this war.

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Originally by: Shinigami

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Edited by: Shinigami on 11/05/2007 11:13:22

Originally by: Frances Ducoir

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no one can really tell how many coalition + alliance ppl are actually fighting but i guess bob & allies have the + on their side so this is depreciating your "glorious victory" a bit. its not so special.

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You need to train Excuses to level five because level one just isn't going cut it. Luckily for you it's a rank one skill.

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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1

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wow a lot of baby bobbies bragin about how well they did, guys just because you joined bob a few month ago, because u failed at your old alliance, doenst has made bob that powerfull.

Respect for the real old bob players, that started bob and did go all the way.

On behalf of the war, what ive seen was absolut boring, but nonetheless bob did great, so gj on wining eve.

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Originally by: Frances Ducoir

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when this war started, i thought whole eve will fight against bob. now its more 50:50 cause so many ppl jumped on the winning side so you can't say "bob won eve".

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Originally by: Frances Ducoir

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excuse for what? i did nothing in this war.

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Originally by: Mad Mackem

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Well done, EVE on easy mode must be so much fun.

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Originally by: Nero Winger

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you starded out with the biggest mouth ingame "D2 will kill you" and you were the most easiest to kill, ask MC youll get a similar answere.

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