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Macmuelli
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:31:00 -
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With all this number of Capitalships Alliance bring into fights.
+ the incoming Cynorsul/ jump brigde disrupting mods, who will be defentiv difficult to kill.
Is it time for them now?
Coud Elite bs (tech II) be fair chance for Players giving fights against strong allainces and there numbers?.
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No Bpos of them, only invention work.
breg mac
PS: This is a serious Question so Plz keep this treat free from flaming.
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:34:00 -
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No.
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Templer Relleg
Exit 13
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:37:00 -
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They are designing the Tech 2 BS. But no info yet.
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CaptainSeafort
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:38:00 -
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ccp have looked at the idea, tooled around, and decided they have no niche currently. wait a bit 
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Macmuelli
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Macmuelli on 16/05/2007 22:37:52
a bit more then " No " woud be nice 
" but hell " capitals limted to .4 and lower so limit them in there role..?
@cptseaford.. My Paitence is endless as an "old Fisher(angler dont know the correct english word)" so waiting is no problem
"Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi "
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Scynscapaene
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:40:00 -
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They've said they want to find a role for T2 bs' because they dont want them to be "solopwnmobiles" :)
I 'imagine' they will be a big gang bonus ship (alot better then CS')
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:44:00 -
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Give them awsome resistences but the DPS of a wet paper towel and I will be happy. Otherwise, no.
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Macmuelli
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:44:00 -
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Working against cynorsul/ jumpbrigde disrupting in systems coud be a role.. like a " little" siege modus against the anchored disruptors?
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Blind Man
Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:45:00 -
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no. not as a uber dmg/tanker like a command ship (combat 1) or HAC
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:47:00 -
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I am sorry, I was just answering your initial question. There was no qualifier in the initial post which required a certain amount of explanation to be provided for the answer, you just asked a simple question:
"Is it time for them now?"
And I replied with a simple answer. No flame involved, just simple and to the point.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:47:00 -
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Can you say Titan Hunters?
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Aldir Rundal
Gallente
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:48:00 -
[12]
 Originally by: Billy Sastard
No.
qft
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Macmuelli
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: Macmuelli on 16/05/2007 23:01:03
Originally by: Billy Sastard
I am sorry, I was just answering your initial question. There was no qualifier in the initial post which required a certain amount of explanation to be provided for the answer, you just asked a simple question:
"Is it time for them now?"
And I replied with a simple answer. No flame involved, just simple and to the point.
I think "If" there is no role atm for them, actualy it is No time for them now.
My question is more for the incoming things like the large numbers of capital pilots / system wide disruting of cynorsul fields and chances to kill this mods etc...
" To the Question. Is it time for NOW" the Word " Now" i mean it not tomorrow more with revelation 2 / 3
"Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi "
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CrestoftheStars
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.16 23:25:00 -
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YEARRRRRRR!!!!!!
if we are this luky, the t2 bs should game, i mean as you say with the amount of cap ships and the titans out there, etc there should be a smaller ship usefull to take these out, like all the others.
t2frig for cruiser.
t2 cruiser for bc
t2 bc for battleship.
we need the t2 bs for fighting the cap ships ;) :D
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.16 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 16/05/2007 23:48:08
Give them a role that doesn't make tech-1 battleships useless, then they can come (without uber dps and uber-resists).
If they came as bs-sized command ships, then they would be the new veteran pwn-mobile in pvp. Besides that number one choice to own in PvE.
A big veteran alliance has probably no problem to get 50 chars or more into such a ship. I'm no friend of the goons, but I think it would shift pvp too much towards high skillpoint players.
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.05.17 00:17:00 -
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Part of why everyones a bit down on the cap ship focus of the game at the moment is the stupidly high training time to get in one that seems to prohibit any player under 2 years old from really engaging in 0.0 politics at the moment (especially when the changes in the current 0.0 climate may well be permanant and are happening in real time).
Problem with T2 battleships is likely they will take just as long to train up and be somewhat as expensive (perhaps). Even command ships are still a damn long haul for a lot of players (perhaps a year into your first well trained hac, then 6 months into a command ship). Add on to that T2 battleships need T2 guns (perhaps 4-5 months to use them well and train t2 larges, although caldari get it a bit easier here) and all the assorted T2 modules.
Its not really a full solution.
Personally I think CCP ought scale back the role of cap ships, and fix pos warfare somehow. But cap ship guys might disagree with me there  . I doubt anyone disagrees that pos warfare blows goats however.
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Gamesguy
Amarr
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.17 00:19:00 -
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Make them anti-caps ships. Let them mount XL weapons(a full rack of say 4-5) with massive reduction to cap use and tracking speed, then toss on a massive damage bonus.
I envision each one doing equal or greater damage than a sieged dread, with the same tracking, but much less tank(standard BS tank with t2 resists).
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.05.17 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Make them anti-caps ships. Let them mount XL weapons(a full rack of say 4-5) with massive reduction to cap use and tracking speed, then toss on a massive damage bonus.
I envision each one doing equal or greater damage than a sieged dread, with the same tracking, but much less tank(standard BS tank with t2 resists).
I half reckon letting battleships fit siege modules would pretty much do most of the trick.
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.05.17 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 17/05/2007 00:41:07
i want my t2 megathron with hac resists and 8 lowslots now. 
if it turns out to be too uber, give it some stupid gangbonus instead of a second damage bonus.
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Senite Ascani
Gallente
Celestial Janissaries
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 00:44:00 -
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No
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.17 01:08:00 -
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T2 BS = shield and armor resists halfway between T1 and T2, gang bonues better than command ships, half the number of guns as a normal BS but able to fit an ECM device that halfs one type of shield and armor resist of its target.
Bet that would diswade a few people from getting capitals. 
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.17 01:36:00 -
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They're already doing them, they're called flagships and the skins look sexy.
Originally by: Benglada
And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.17 01:46:00 -
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yeah as long as they are balanced
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Khel'tar
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Posted - 2007.05.17 01:59:00 -
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An anti-capital ship short of dreads would be awesome. There's definately a niche there, how you'd fill it without making dreads pointless is another question.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.17 03:02:00 -
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MMMMMM!! Tech II Rokh with 350km sniping..../drool
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 03:57:00 -
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I think it would be a good idea for them to be like small cap ships.
They should be designed for 'softening up a pos' before the dreads and other caps come in. Something that can take out the 'cyno jammer' modules on the poses. And that can tank the guns for abit. It could also be something that could have a specially ability to take out super caps.
It should have an exceptionally slow locktime as to make it almost useless in normal fleet battles. And it should move slower as well. Fill the 'destroyer niche' between battleship and capitalship.
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Alexi Borizkova
Caldari
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.05.17 06:25:00 -
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I want a ishukone skinned scorpion that projects a cloaking field for its squad.
And the other races can get something similiar, I suppose.
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.05.17 07:09:00 -
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lol imagine a t2 abaddon. Shaweeeet!
Seriously though, if they do make t2 bs. It will make faction BS inept.
Also for the suspected price of a t2 bs one could fly a carrier for this said price.
I'd really like to see how it would work. *pff nah*
But would love to see a T2 Abaddon.
But up middle finger to T2 Domi.
That'd be nasty.
I think the T2 BS should be something different to like a HAC is for a cruiser. I'm thinking more along the lines of a 'Fleet Command Ship" TM.
FCS Ftw!!!
Make it like a regular ass BS with extra slots for gang warefare mods. blah blah.
And yeah a type of fleet cloak array. Yesh
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.17 07:15:00 -
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the gap between capships and battleships is currently too big. T2 BS would fit that role perfectly. And CCP lost all credibility about the no 'solopwnmobiles' when they introduced motherships.
And a T2 BS would still get ripped apart by capitals anyway.
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Ash Vincetti
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.17 11:37:00 -
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I would like to see t2 BSes fill the logistics gap that t2 cruiser logistic ships never filled properly. Logistics ships (sometimes) work in small engagements, and even then, they die prematurely. There simply is'nt a viable niche for logistics atm. This would be the ideal role for a t2 BS. (command ships are tough enough already. Either toughen up the logistics, or create a t2 BS variant that's able to keep up with the damage.)
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