You know when reading this thread title I was actually thinking of something in the opposite direction.

I'd like a more expensive beefier dread. I'd pay an extra bil or so to buy something that had enough EHP to survive one titan zap.

Also I want a dread with decent enough tracking and accuracy that it can be effective while shooting at battleships.

I've always wanted something inbetween battleships and massive capital ships. Now I know that the idea is that there are capitals then super capitals... but the dps jump and cost jump is very large between BS and capital... or so I feel.
My idea would be something along the lines of the tier 3 BC's... it packs a punch, but it dies faster. All that but easier to manufacture and lower material cost. A more disposable dread if you will. Somewhat like the orca is to the rorqual, if that makes any sense to you. Big, slow, capable and more pricey than your typical industrials but not a rorqual by any means.

I think this would allow a bit more action from smaller bodies of players who could now instead of only fielding one dread, can field a handful of these smaller ones with less skilled pilots and less money and if the bigger better pilots with dreads come along, oops ur all of a sudden fighting battleships with cruisers, in terms of proportion.

I contemplate the possibility of them having inherent tracking bonuses to make them hit battleships a little bit. That or maybe throwing off the tracking idea and making them have even worse tracking, but no need for a siege module and short cyno range.

Throw your ideas in, it's just that, an idea. :)


Here's some other random ideas:

- A kind of ship that requires 2 or 3 of the same ship with the same module on them to activate a mini-doomsday or some kind of module that has a pretty big effect but requires you have a handful of people working in unison to acheive it. OR a sort of linking with another ship, which renders you in a siege-like mode of being immobile, but give the receiver an alpha that gets bigger with the more people feeding into it.

Wouldn't Tech 3 Battleships be able to fit that niece if they would ever come out ?

like the new BC's ... sacifice tank for DPS...

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This thread has since become a thread more about a niche to be filled between battleship and capital ships. That or battleship and dread... I really cant tell.

Throw your ideas into the pot!

...this thing would be like 800-1bil Im assuming.

I've always wanted something inbetween battleships and massive capital ships. Now I know that the idea is that there are capitals then super capitals... but the dps jump and cost jump is very large between BS and capital... or so I feel.
My idea would be something along the lines of the tier 3 BC's... it packs a punch, but it dies faster. All that but easier to manufacture and lower material cost. A more disposable dread if you will. Somewhat like the orca is to the rorqual, if that makes any sense to you. Big, slow, capable and more pricey than your typical industrials but not a rorqual by any means.

I think this would allow a bit more action from smaller bodies of players who could now instead of only fielding one dread, can field a handful of these smaller ones with less skilled pilots and less money and if the bigger better pilots with dreads come along, oops ur all of a sudden fighting battleships with cruisers, in terms of proportion.

I contemplate the possibility of them having inherent tracking bonuses to make them hit battleships a little bit. That or maybe throwing off the tracking idea and making them have even worse tracking, but no need for a siege module and short cyno range.

Throw your ideas in, it's just that, an idea. :)


Here's some other random ideas:

- A kind of ship that requires 2 or 3 of the same ship with the same module on them to activate a mini-doomsday or some kind of module that has a pretty big effect but requires you have a handful of people working in unison to acheive it. OR a sort of linking with another ship, which renders you in a siege-like mode of being immobile, but give the receiver an alpha that gets bigger with the more people feeding into it.

For Shame, OP. Taking the cowardly way out by deleting your idea. Terrible as it was, y u no conviction?

Oh Ruby. We arent all beings of poor troll and inability to see the potential in others ideas like yourself.

Roughly 0 in ship to ship combat. Fighters go big boom. Fighters also have travel time and are slow.

Supers are the DPS drone boats of the capital family.

If you don't think carrier drops are used for their DPS than you're living in a fragile sheltered existence out in null where all anyone does is blob. That isn't all eve is.

Why don't you come out of your safe sov bubble to lowsec and see how carriers are used as DPS.

http://divinity.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11976148

and

http://divinity.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11963243.

If you don't think carrier drops are used for their DPS than you're living in a fragile sheltered existence out in null where all anyone does is blob. That isn't all eve is.

edit: you may need to copy paste the links to work.

Yeah, that's a hotdrop Gank. That's not a fight. Fights generally involve shooting on both sides. Mind you, there is *nothing* wrong with ganks; they're fun and are certainly valid PvP. They just aren't what I call fights.

Roughly 0 in ship to ship combat. Fighters go big boom. Fighters also have travel time and are slow.

Supers are the DPS drone boats of the capital family.

Fair enough, though my assertion that fighters tend to die suggests I meant combat in which both combatants are actively shooting.

So read that as "In a Fight, Carriers are Primarily-Totally Logistics ships"

Either it's a small enough fight where the carrier is likely to Triage, or it's a large fight and the Fighters won't do much/will get blown up, or it's a really big fight and the carrier will Triage to save Supers.

In any event, outside a Carrier hotdrop, carriers aren't DPS ships. And even then, a good fleet BS will out damage a Carrier (applied Damage) unless you do something silly like put DCUs on it.

A properly skilled carrier can put out 1000dps without any drone control units, a BS will have a hard time fitting out those numbers while implementing a proper tank. Can you build a dragonslayer fleet of battleships designed to take down a carrier with spider tanking, sure. But you make it sound like carriers are just joke dps and tank and can be taken down by 3-4 battleships sitting on it, when that isn't the case.

As I said before, if you've got other caps to bring in, carriers aren't a big deal, for the small gang people, if someone drops a carrier on your fight, they win, regardless, unless you want to drop one of your own.