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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:27:00 -
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If you think the changes to missiles on the test server is the wrong way of sorting out balance issues post your comments here, please keep it constructive and no trolling and flaming,
ALSO DO NOT POST HERE IF YOU ARE ALL FOR THE NEW CHANGES, PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD "I LOVE NEW CHANGES WOOT"
for thos of you who dont know, thye have changed the size of cruise and torps, so now you can only fir 2 cruise in a H-50 launcher!
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Znaei
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:34:00 -
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Signed. They need to find a new way of stopping frigates using cruise missiles. This penelizes all the cruiser and Bs pilots wayyy too much.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Masi
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:40:00 -
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signed! Was on Chaos today, suxs :/ -------------------------
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Valeria
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:43:00 -
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Almost done training for the Tempest... Scorpion will still serve a purpose as a sentry tank though. :(
In other words, these changes suck.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |

Valeria
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:46:00 -
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Also, they really really need to implement ship class limitations as statistics for modules. CCP seems to be against it and rather solve it by crunching numbers, but it would be so much easier to get things balanced.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |

Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:55:00 -
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Dont like it one bit  Spawn of the Devil
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:58:00 -
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Agreed . . . find another way if it's the Kestral that's the issue (although some would argue that the idea of a frigate with cruise missiles is inline with reality- think air launched anti-ship missiles). Wrong to penalize missile users even more by taking thier cargo hold away.
Also give us some better blasters. If Megathron pilots are going to have to fly down another BS's throat, we'd like to have the assurance that we are going to do more than 400 damage a pop.
... That's when I reach for my revolver ... |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:58:00 -
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aye! --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2004.01.07 01:59:00 -
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Dont nerf the missiles CCP Noo sig comming SOONÖ =================================================== What are we going to do about all this ignorance and apathy?.... I don't know and I don't care! |

KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:01:00 -
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I just posted this in patch review. I like to try and give things a go before I dismiss them, so here's what I thought.
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ok, I've just been playing with some loadouts on chaos.
Lasers are pretty much out of the question on a raven now. If you use large hybrids, it's a lot friendlier on the power requirements.
CPU is too high on siege. I had to fit 2 cpu enhancers (with electronics 5) to be about to mount 6 siege. Power grid is spot on.
The only boosters I needed to mount a decent loadout were 2 cpu enhancers, which still left 3 low slots free.
If the CPU requirement could be lowered slightly, then I don't think it will be as bad as I initially thought. The power usage is spot on, it means that lasers are out of the question now, but they can be replaced with 425's which are much friendlier on requirements.
Lower the CPU requirement, and it's kinda practical, but there's not much room for flexibility.
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:03:00 -
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/me signs. Already takes a lot of missiles to operate in a battle, increasing the size will further limit the number we can carry. ______________
The Kerrigan Chronicles |

Endorphin
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:06:00 -
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Why bother trying. CCP doesnt listen to a word you say. They only change things they think are important.
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:10:00 -
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Signed..
Even though you should have put this in Ships & Modules, as TomB monitors that forum, and he is the one responsible for the missile changes.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:14:00 -
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As it is implemented right now on Chaos, NO WAY. There are ways that it could be acceptable (e.g., weapons bay) but without further changes this cannot happen. Missiles suck right now why make them suckier?
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:19:00 -
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Signed ...
Balance the ships and not "hump" the game .. Mongo speaks !!
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Brukhai Khan
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:25:00 -
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Signed.
and I have looked at both sides of the medal. right now CM-loading Kestrels are good enough to make a dent, if they come in large numbers. but you need a lot of them to make a difference, since missile defense (even though defenders still aren¦t optimal) works fairly ok.
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:33:00 -
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****STOP THE NERFING**** This is lame lame lame
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Retirement closing in .
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Pann
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:34:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion.
Eve Community Manager [email protected] CCP |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:38:00 -
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signed, sealed, and pondering having it etched onto every missile I own.
Stay away from my fieyapowah!
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Power
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:41:00 -
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Signed
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Torvus Jay
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:41:00 -
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Signed.
In the very least the H-50s need to be need to be adjusted to compensate and make then carry the same numbers as now. This change will kill frigates haveing any hope of being viable in battle. ______________
Aim careful, and look the devil in the eye. |

voogru
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Posted - 2004.01.07 02:47:00 -
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Signed.
IMO, Put the sizes back to the way they were and make the cruise missile size 2.0 (Same size as torp) Problem solved. ------- Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |

Jael Markinsen
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Posted - 2004.01.07 03:21:00 -
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Signed
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Blade Durrant
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Posted - 2004.01.07 03:38:00 -
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Edited by: Blade Durrant on 07/01/2004 03:38:58 Signed.
If they would multiply the damage on the missile by 2.5x just like the size then maybe not, but as it stands **** NO!!!
-"Podkilling is more than a hobby, Its a way of life."
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.07 04:10:00 -
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Signed. These changes are the complete ruination of Caldari ships. ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.07 04:26:00 -
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... Kinda pointless attmept am afraid, but /signed because those changes cause so many bad sideeffects 'tis simply absurd.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.07 04:47:00 -
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pointless but /signed
AAF way of "balancing" things...but whadda WE know eh? We only play the darn game. 
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.01.07 04:58:00 -
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/SIGNED ---
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2004.01.07 06:10:00 -
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/signed this is a bad idea
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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Golgrath
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Posted - 2004.01.07 06:18:00 -
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/signed
They should instead decrease hold of of a3 and m-12 launchers and, to compensate, decrease size of rockets, defenders, light and heavy missiles.
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