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MoorePhy
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Posted - 2004.01.09 11:52:00 -
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Khal St
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Posted - 2004.01.09 12:08:00 -
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/scribble
Leave 'dem Kessies alone....
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.01.09 17:52:00 -
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*Signed*
If this is just about stopping instant kills with a kestrel on indys, then giving indys the option of mounting an M12 (or like ilk) with defenders could be a better way to go. |

Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2004.01.09 18:42:00 -
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Quote: *Signed*
If this is just about stopping instant kills with a kestrel on indys, then giving indys the option of mounting an M12 (or like ilk) with defenders could be a better way to go.
Its about Kestrels only needing 2 of their 4 high slots to kill another frigate. That said... its rediculous. I only need 2 of my 4 highs on my Breacher too... though 1 is a turret. I just don't see the problem. Remember the TIE-Bomber from Starwars... obviously other sci-fi genre's understand the small, high powered ships.
On a side note... Indies should get the choice of a launcher point and should be able to use cruise as well. They are huge ships and should be able to defend against Cruisers. And I down right fancy the idea of my Mammoth unloading some Frigate Using cruise Missiles on me in 0.0.
Leave everything alone TomB. And bring out the other Missile Launchres ( aka the ones on EVE-DB that we haven't seen yet ) because your nerfing now may need renerfing in the future with their release... and we will be here yet again complaining.
- One good nerf deserves another
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.01.10 02:46:00 -
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some said missiles stinks currently... HMMM!
how come ANY and i do mean ANY person going into PvP, has more launchers on his scorp, then turrets... every caldari ship u see, u know has max launchers on it... no question asked...
i do believe Kestrel shouldnt fire of cruisemissiles... but it has nothing to do with the size of the missiles, or the other higherclassed ships... dont touch anything else but the kestrel and other frigates firing these highpowered missiles...
Make launchers/missiles grouped like Turrets/ammo currently is... S for S, M for M, L for L...
/Signed ˘
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Slave Miner
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Posted - 2004.01.10 09:35:00 -
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Quote: some said missiles stinks currently... HMMM!
how come ANY and i do mean ANY person going into PvP, has more launchers on his scorp, then turrets... every caldari ship u see, u know has max launchers on it... no question asked...
/Signed ˘
There is a reason, it's because they can't fit more turrets than launchers.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.01.10 11:57:00 -
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Please no changes.
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Fan Basto
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Posted - 2004.01.10 12:25:00 -
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signed
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.01.10 13:17:00 -
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I LOVE THIS NEW CHANGES All other BS suck in pvp  
give some love to Gallende to :P
caldary BS must be a electronic war ship not the perfect pvp ship :(
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:44:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: some said missiles stinks currently... HMMM!
how come ANY and i do mean ANY person going into PvP, has more launchers on his scorp, then turrets... every caldari ship u see, u know has max launchers on it... no question asked...
/Signed ˘
There is a reason, it's because they can't fit more turrets than launchers.
so a scorp doesnt have 6 high points.... 4 launchers, 4 turrets ?... and every isnt using 4 launchers along with 2 turrets ?..... IS THAT WHAT UR SAYING ?
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:45:00 -
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signed,
what are ya trying to do to caldari here, come on now...... 4 turrets with 4 launchers cannot compete with 8 turrets. and we can't use launchers if you do this now. or i guess we could try...... ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:33:00 -
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I hate it. CCP needs subly.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Nervar
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Nervar on 11/01/2004 02:56:10 For the love off God roll back this change, It accomplishes NOTHING. Well it does actually, it KILLS the raven wich have a hard time fitting anny siege as it is.
Cant see why one would want to take away frigs to use cruise, its not like there is allot off frig pvp out there, making example the kessie owerpowered.
If you really want to kill frigs abillety to use cruise: 1:Decrease m-12`s and bellow inn capacity 2:Decrease size off heavyes,lights,rockets and defenders inn size.......
Voila, """problem solved""" And last: Why fix something that is allready working.....
Oh and the people crying about all other ships are crap compared with the raven/scorp... get a grip. There are NO major imbalances inn BS todate. Only bad setups, i sugest you wiiner babys learn how to equip a ship, before screaming for a nerf cause you dont have the IQ to come up with a good setup.
And for the guy that wiined about the caldari dont use more guns is: First off all rails suck duck on CALDARI ships. Second have you ever tryed to fit a 4 rails and 4 launchers while maintaining a god medium and low slot setup on a raven..... didnt think so
The Scorp, dosnt get hit this hard as it can actually fit 4 siege while maintaining a good low and med slot setup
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ElDiabloRojo
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: ElDiabloRojo on 11/01/2004 14:48:36 Edited by: ElDiabloRojo on 11/01/2004 14:44:45 dont like the sound of that 1 bit :(
*signs*
whats the point of having an S-110 if u can only use 5 missiles in it, thus leaving 1 capasity that will never get used? gonna rename them to S-100s?
Or maybe we should start putting 6 launchers with Heavy missiles in???
If u really must do this to stop Frigates boost the ravens CPU and give it a new type of launcher so we can fit 6 of them with more then 5 cruise missiles in (11 would be nice ) and thus keep it the same in terms of fire power whilst nerfing the frigates?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:56:00 -
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leave my bloody kestrel alone.
dbp
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hazeb
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:56:00 -
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signed
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Luvsto Haight
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Posted - 2004.01.11 16:02:00 -
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and leave my inquisitor alone to
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ChaosOne
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Posted - 2004.01.11 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: ChaosOne on 11/01/2004 18:15:47 signed
why nerf an entire races ships cos of 1 ship. find another way ccp. ------------------------------------------------
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Rangar
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:18:00 -
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I hate it too
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Shania Twain
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:19:00 -
[110]
bad changes, very bad
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:24:00 -
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Quote: bad changes, very bad
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Star Nove
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:24:00 -
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Signed
Missiles are cool. CCP DONT KILL THEM!!! -nove
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James McGowen
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Posted - 2004.01.12 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: James McGowen on 12/01/2004 02:05:28 Edited by: James McGowen on 12/01/2004 02:05:11 Makeing frig launchers and missles smaller, not torps/crusies/siege launchers bigger would be a better idea imho....
*signed* ----------------------------------------
"To err is human"
To really foul up requires a computer. |

Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:56:00 -
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/Signed again
Tomb if you do this nerf, your new nick name with be dumbass.  ---
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:17:00 -
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signed
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Atea
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:51:00 -
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did i sign already? nm.
/signed
I think the changes might come out nicely with a few adaptions, what I¦d love to see is more variety when it comes to missiles. Like ship class specific ones (same as ammo), or special launchers, or more missile types....
if heavies were to be decreased in size that would encourage kestrel pilots to stay in the fight for longer, not unload and warp out instantly.
xxx Atea. |

zincol
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Posted - 2004.01.12 15:00:00 -
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w00t!
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Uuldahan
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Posted - 2004.01.12 15:22:00 -
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I think you guys should go in the "Ships and Modules" channel of the forum and discuss changes in the new thread created by TomB 
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Shayden
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:34:00 -
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Signed..
Plz dont let the other children laugh at me in my raven, plzzz i wont go back there! 
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Methesda
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Posted - 2004.01.13 04:02:00 -
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If the kestrel really is the issue, then a few defenders in an a3, would sort it out, while you beat the s**t out of it with BigGuns(tm)...
If there is more than one kestrel, then thats tactics ain't it?
Or do defenders still not work right?
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