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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 21/05/2007 11:08:19
 Originally by: sabahl
1) Never lend anyone anything you can't afford to lose, unless you know where they live and are pretty sure you can beat them up in a fight
2) War bonds are only useful if you are sure you will win the war. You can only win a war if you fight, not pack up and cede territory when things get tough. Tactical withdrawels? Well, that's what your leadership appears to have done from your war fund so they can make a big booom ship that they're also in the process of getting nerfed.
3) Either way, you don't come whining on here about your internal problems because all you will get are a load of giggles from the stalls. So, you corp is having funding issues in a war that they can't afford to wage? So what? It's happened countless times over the years and, with hardly an exception, has ultimately led to a complete breakdown in the alliance, corp or rough gang of friends who have been playing the game. But the fact is, the rest of us don't care. We'll read your alliance's obituary later, thank you.
In the meantime, go out and grab some more isk mining or something. Sounds like you need it.
out of curiosity, who are you talking to?
in your eagerness to smack a goon, i think you missed the bit where it was established that the OP probably isn't one.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: ForumPosterAlt
0.0 is a fking joke now anyways.
CCP's vision of how capitals would make sovereignty awesome and whatever, complete failure.
I would say the same think about alt posting in general, Mr ForumPosterAlt. If you want to make a statement here, use your main, and that goes for the OP as well.
/me changes to post with bob alt..... then relises the bob alt is actually in bob
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
you should be willing to sacrifice some isk towards your alliance tbh.
if not you should be kicked.
its not all about you, theres bigger things in the game.
oh no its not all about the members - its about getting toys for the leaders 
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imagine if ants refused to work towards building a colony because they felt they werent getting enough back ...
ants work almost like slaves in a nearly mindless state with blind dedication to the queen - if this is how you see members of an alliance/corp then i hope karma comes back to you real hard - the longer it accumulates the better
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the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:02:00 -
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1 - it's not nice what you are doing now. Not a big fan of GEWNS or of BoB either. You guys are jackasses and it's been seen over time - baiting guys to come in and join just to gank them ganking them. Couldn't happen to nicer guys. :)
2 - 1 aside, an alliance is not a collective of self interests. Well it can be, but it will be short lived. You need to have a colective interest too. If I were a in Mittani's shoes i'd make a pole about it, and see which way it swings.
3 - for me and many people that i know, 2b lost is not that important. Money is easy to earn in this game, and it's a MMORPG so i'm playing to have fun with others. You can run L4's for 2-3 weeks or rat in 0.0 and make that sum fast. If i really liked the guys i was with in the alliance, i would take it as a loss and move on.
4 - in the chance you are an alt to make Goons look bad, nice job. Didn't say you were in GoonSwarm in the post but the hint wasn't exactly "hidden". :)
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Laboratus
Otherwise, nice propaganda.
You should get in to politics, your evasion skills are superb.
Well, you have to admit they are probably a tad better than yours, running away from the forums for 3 months is about as crude as it gets in terms of evasion skills 
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro
in the chance you are an alt to make Goons look bad, nice job. Didn't say you were in GoonSwarm in the post but the hint wasn't exactly "hidden". :)
thats actually the only possibility
only the motives are questionable
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Laboratus
Otherwise, nice propaganda.
You should get in to politics, your evasion skills are superb.
Well, you have to admit they are probably a tad better than yours, running away from the forums for 3 months is about as crude as it gets in terms of evasion skills
To be fair, I was still here, just not posting in CAOD.
Interestingly I still haven't had a straight answer as to the truth of the OP's post, so the evasion continues.
I have a feeling it is proably an accurate reflection of the current position of Goonswarm, no matter what affiliation the true identity of the OP may carry (and no, I honestly have no idea who they are.)
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.21 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 19/05/2007 17:29:17
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
The titan is the most useful ship you could possibly build. If not for the jump bridge then for the fact that it can decimate enemy fleets and scare them into not even defending their stations.
200 battleships on the other hand they'll quite happily engage.
If that is so then it is a sorry comment on the tactical landscape in EVE. I guarantee you any right thinking military in the world would rather have 20 cruisers than 1 battleship. It allows for far greater tactical flexibility, allows you to cover more fronts and then there is the whole "eggs in one basket" deal to contend with.
If a Titan really is THE thing for 0.0 warfare to the point that 1 is greater than 200 people in battleships it needs fixing IMO.
The trick, I think, is that the 200 players will use teir own battleship (and risk it), while the leadership will use the Alliance Titan (and risk it).
So they can have the pie (200 BS) an eat it (the Titan).
There is a different point: if they have truble houlding the territory, where they think to build the Titan?
Wait till they have a core group of system well entrenched and then build it? And in the meantime the other players in the alliance have no isk and no Titan?
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Rosalina Sarinna
KHM Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.21 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rosalina Sarinna on 21/05/2007 13:55:13
I guess what i find funny is the ascertion that GF is broke. I mean seriously... a single char can make a few bil ISK in a month, even with only 10% of GF doing anything / logging in, thats nearly 1 trillion ISK.
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ForumPosterAlt
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Posted - 2007.05.21 14:22:00 -
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Post with your main so I can get you kicked from your corp kekekeke
NO - you lamers need to stfu about posting with your GD main
if you care so much about the person the view is coming for more than the actual view itself, it says something about you
FORSHAME
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.05.21 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rosalina Sarinna
Edited by: Rosalina Sarinna on 21/05/2007 13:55:13
I guess what i find funny is the ascertion that GF is broke. I mean seriously... a single char can make a few bil ISK in a month, even with only 10% of GF doing anything / logging in, thats nearly 1 trillion ISK.
Corp/alliance financing is not so much a matter of how much each person in the corp/alliance CAN earn, but is more a matter of how much they DO earn, and how much of that goes TO the corp/alliance.
For an alliance to earn a proper income from its members, those members need to:
a) Do the ISK grind (to reach your 1b+, very intensive too)
b) Donate the money they earn to their corp/alliance
Mostly, both of these are not something people like to do (especially the last one)...
I don't know how GS finances work, but if their members DON'T do a) and b) above, any corp/alliance could/would be in trouble...
Note: I don't claim GS has/hasn't got financial problems (I have no knowledge either way). I'm just pointing out that POTENTIAL earnings by members is not related to how much corp/alliances ACTUALLY make from those members...
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rosalina Sarinna
Edited by: Rosalina Sarinna on 21/05/2007 13:55:13
I guess what i find funny is the ascertion that GF is broke. I mean seriously... a single char can make a few bil ISK in a month, even with only 10% of GF doing anything / logging in, thats nearly 1 trillion ISK.
I think you somewhat underestimate the cost of regional control.
You need a lot of income just to keep things ticking over.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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FGxHalsey
Freedom Guard
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd
Edited by: Iraf Thaiberd on 19/05/2007 22:49:24
While we'd like to thank the thread starter for the chuckles, and we hate to interrupt the weekly-scheduled "goons are dead/lost/broke/amoral/INTERNET" thread, a little background may help here.
Here's another post by the same person, implying that they're in BoB at the time:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=518418&page=4#108
Screenshotted for when they edit it:
http://graham.elitistjerks.com/busted1.jpg
And here's one where the same person is claiming to be in -V-:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=461617&page=3#63
And the screenshot for the post-edit:
http://graham.elitistjerks.com/busted2.jpg
Conclusions? Who knows? As far as I can tell, this person is just a bad troll. The "argument" put forth in the original post makes it clear (at least to us) that this is either an awful troll by an errant member of GS or someone in another alliance.
Anyway, continue with your "goons are dead/lost/broke/RA SLAVES!/amoral/INTERNET" whatever thread I guess. I won't be responding to any posts or questions because the stink of this place gives me the creeps, and I'm busy at work anyway.
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Marqdest
Forced Meme
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Posted - 2007.05.22 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
(snip) Remedial and I are going to take the titan fund ISK and spend all of it creating a huge arena where we partake in a RL battle for a large ham. (snip)
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Aeryn Davenport
Claflin Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.22 07:22:00 -
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I mentioned this in the post in CAOD that was deleted, so I will mention it again. Are you the same person who posted this issue there? Maybe, maybe not I guess.
Anyways, War Bonds was a horrible idea because it doesn't seem to me that Goonswarm has any reliable isk generating techniques that could both fund a major war and pay back loans.
Personally, it seems like Mittani is more interested in bragging rights than anything else. Remedial's retirement post listed all of these Goonswarm accomplishments and perhaps Mittani is trying to cement his own legacy. Also, it sounds like both of them are obsessed with proving that Goon is one of the top alliances in the game and the titan represents proving they are a valid alliance.
It really doesn't seem like a titan will do anything to help your alliance. AAA and D2 both have one and there's no indication that it's helped them in their battles much. In fact, titans are most effective against your alliance because your victories tend to come from superior numbers.
It seems like the obsession with a titan may end up tearing apart your alliance.
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bob74
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Posted - 2007.05.22 11:28:00 -
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My personal opinion? you got a leadership that thinks getting the titan up and running can save your space, see if it can. If after oh, Id say a month, things still seem bad and no payment in site, id ask one more time, then leave if it still upsets you. My question is do you really "need" the isk that you loaned them? If not and you can still get what your after, then what is the big deal, as an alliance member your suppose to help people work towards a common goal.
Just my two cents worth.
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