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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:54:00 -
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No personal comment from myself, officially or unofficially. I am simply pointing out the news
I wasn't aware that m0o were having such a dramatic impact on the FIX region (querious or whatever its called now)? Or is everybody just off running mission in empire space?
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:56:00 -
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victory!
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:57:00 -
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"We brake for nobody"
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:08:00 -
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HAAAAAAAARRR!
Sass
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0verkill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:09:00 -
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0verkill
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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Femme Fatal
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:20:00 -
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HAAAAAAAARRR!
Thats my line 
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Ezra
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:21:00 -
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No personal comment from myself, officially or unofficially. I am simply pointing out the news
I wasn't aware that m0o were having such a dramatic impact on the FIX region (querious or whatever its called now)? Or is everybody just off running mission in empire space?
I hope that if CFS wants to close off the region, they have the muscle to back it up.
If you think m0o and friends are problems, just wait until all the alliance-haters come down for a piece of the action.
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Ezra Cornell
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Keith Merim
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:41:00 -
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A quote from the news article...
"Protection requires time, hardware and manpower, all of which are precious resources in the unending struggle against the more nefarious citizenry of EVE"
Nefarious?!!? Infamous, Yes, notorious, maybe, but me thinks he's gone to far! 
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:16:00 -
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You know its funny:
Read cfs general forum (one avaiable to the public) they are like:
"WE ARE PWNINGS M0o ALL M0os ARE PWNEDz!"
Then u go to the military forum (not avaiable to the public) and they are all like:
"WTF IS GOING ON WTF IS THE NAVY DOING"
Then u go to the senators forum and they are like:
"WE ARE IN TROUBLE NEED MORE SHIPS AND MONEY PLS HELP"
I would post the rest of Yoda's stuff but its mostly drivel, the guy is all talk never fight, cfs has some good pvpers sadly their leaders are not among them...
BTW CFS are pirates not us, lassy told me so its ok for us to 'work' there...
PWN PWN CHICKEN!
Stav
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:35:00 -
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lol
So if they can't keep m0o out, they are also gonna keep EVERYONE else PLUS m0o out...
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:46:00 -
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Ha.....ha ha ha......ha ...............Ha!
HAHAHAHAHA!
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Ends
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ends on 07/01/2004 23:03:48
Edited by: Ends on 07/01/2004 23:01:44
I am the person who wrote both the old free space bill and this one. I don't appriciate you hacking our private boards either. We'll keep this simple.
The CFS needs to survive, it can't right now. mOo are in fact walking all over us because we can't fund our navy. We can't keep our space lanes open in our current state of govt. Its that simple. Everyone runs for the hills when its time to fight, this can't continue. I wanted to keep space open so passionatly, I have fought SO hard to keep it open for all. The people that want to live in our area simply don't have any sence of responsiblity to our area. When trouble comes they run for the hills. We can't do that any more. We have to have a REASON for poeple to join the CFS. We have to have a way to FUND our navy. 80% of the local poplulation that would passionaly defend the right to mine there wouldn't lift a finger to fight. The 10% that do fight consitently are crusader/heros but there are not enough of them. They have blow up their BS and are fighting mOo in frigates, its not working.
We are going to start selling passes. At this point we don't intend to shut down mining to others. What I am shooting for is for all lawful players in corps to be able to buy mining passes, either for the whole corp or for a day or for individuals. Of course joining the CFS is not really hard to do. You'd do far better to merely join up. Also at this point we are not looking at closing out other alliances but we will charge a fee for mining and fighting. I hope the community can understand. The CFS is not able to fight well enough to survive right now, and its because nobody has any reason to have responsiblity toward the region. We can't survive without this change. I am sorry. I promise the community this decision was far harder for me than you may know.
Senator Ends.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:02:00 -
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No hacking took place, sadly not all of your high ranking members are satisifed with your leadership...
And for a corp such as ourselves, the information was rather cheap.
I must say some of the stuff I was forwarded from your boards gave us hours of giggles...
'gm alts' indeed :P
Your alliance will burn, anarachy will prevail ¼_¼
Have a nice day...
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Ends
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:08:00 -
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People of good will are stronger than you Stavros, we have conviction and pride. Your urge to statify your next simple lust won't stand up to us in the long run. We will fight. We will prevail.
Also I'd like to thank mOo for teaching this alliance to become strong, as you have with so many others you tempered until they drove you out.
Ends.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:10:00 -
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We have never been driven out of anyway, we simply seek to kill, we are at rest in cfs now because it enables us to build up our forces.
This is the real world btw not cartoons, just because u think your are the good guys don't get you jack, cept dead ¼_¼
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:15:00 -
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Interesting...
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Negotiator on 07/01/2004 23:54:55
Could some plz tell me how CFS plans on preventing others from accessing their space if their military is in deep poo? The only person that deserves real respect in CFS is Fedayken Naib, even tho he is kinda bad at PvP 0_o... DigitalCommie is cool too. Everyone else has been broken by our military and our propaganda machine. CFS was a great training ground for returning m0o members and the corporation is as strong as ever after this glorious victory.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/01/2004 00:15:38
Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 08/01/2004 00:11:07
yay! \o/
edit from my original post:
changed my mind, this bites!
you're hurting more non-cfs than cfs.. instead of forcing the slackers that don't do anything to actually do something, you wanna close off space in a desperate attempt to get more isk.
newsflash, those that don't do anything in cfs right now STILL won't do anything even if this is implemented. So instead, you wanna TOLL the majority of people that HELP you on a daily basis to break up m0o blockades? potentially keeping them OUT of the area and thus diminishing your strength? PFF! I say..
I'm sorry but negotiator is right in the post under this one, if you change the very principles by which you stand for they have totally crushed you, and this is far worse than publicly admitting defeat.. any respect that you had from the "good guys" for trying to keep space OPEN and be the "lawful types" will be totally gone..
The only reason I chose to help out is because I like pvp, and I sympathize with good guys.. omg im gonna be so ****ed off if this turns into another FA/Stain/NVA/CA type alliance
I for one will NOT be paying any tolls any time soon, good luck trying to keep me out, an angry communist is far worse than any pirating cow >:/
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Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Negotiator on 07/01/2004 23:54:55
Could some plz tell me how CFS plans on preventing others from accessing their space if their military is in deep poo? The only person that deserves real respect in CFS is Fedayken Naib, even tho he is kinda bad at PvP 0_o... DigitalCommie is cool too. Everyone else has been broken by our military and our propaganda machine. CFS was a great training ground for returning m0o members and the corporation is as strong as ever after this glorious victory.
Propoganda bull
It will be a victory when there is no more CFS you may have one the battle but not the war.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Negotiator on 08/01/2004 00:02:55
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Propoganda bull
It will be a victory when there is no more CFS you may have one the battle but not the war.
Thats the point of this thread. There is no more CFS. We have destroyed what u stood for, we changed your alliance as we saw fit. When we came to FIX, A2 was one of the busiest chokepoints on the map, Gehi was the biggest center of production and business in the South. Everything is gone now. CFS lost. All we need now is your OFFICIAL surrender to [m0o] corp. Then we will leave.
P.S
Digi, i meant to say you ;) Dunno why i said Dreamworks...i still dont like him :P
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:02:00 -
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The victory comes when, for the majority of the time you are unable to enforce your alliance rules and are unable to offer a satisfactory response to our repeated occupation of your space and our destruction of your people.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:10:00 -
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The victory comes when, for the majority of the time you are unable to enforce your alliance rules and are unable to offer a satisfactory response to our repeated occupation of your space and our destruction of your people.
Listen until things settle after castor you can talk talk talk all you want. We'll see where we are all at in a month or 2.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Negotiator on 08/01/2004 00:02:55
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Propoganda bull
It will be a victory when there is no more CFS you may have one the battle but not the war.
Thats the point of this thread. There is no more CFS. We have destroyed what u stood for, we changed your alliance as we saw fit. When we came to FIX, A2 was one of the busiest chokepoints on the map, Gehi was the biggest center of production and business in the South. Everything is gone now. CFS lost. All we need now is your OFFICIAL surrender to [m0o] corp. Then we will leave.
P.S
Digi, i meant to say you ;) Dunno why i said Dreamworks...i still dont like him :P
Your talking our your pooti
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:30:00 -
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never seen you fight...are you one of those that are hiding behind the navy?
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:32:00 -
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I am the person who wrote both the old free space bill and this one. I don't appriciate you hacking our private boards either. We'll keep this simple.
The CFS needs to survive, it can't right now. mOo are in fact walking all over us because we can't fund our navy. We can't keep our space lanes open in our current state of govt. Its that simple. Everyone runs for the hills when its time to fight, this can't continue. I wanted to keep space open so passionatly, I have fought SO hard to keep it open for all. The people that want to live in our area simply don't have any sence of responsiblity to our area. When trouble comes they run for the hills. We can't do that any more. We have to have a REASON for poeple to join the CFS. We have to have a way to FUND our navy. 80% of the local poplulation that would passionaly defend the right to mine there wouldn't lift a finger to fight. The 10% that do fight consitently are crusader/heros but there are not enough of them. They have blow up their BS and are fighting mOo in frigates, its not working.
We are going to start selling passes. At this point we don't intend to shut down mining to others. What I am shooting for is for all lawful players in corps to be able to buy mining passes, either for the whole corp or for a day or for individuals. Of course joining the CFS is not really hard to do. You'd do far better to merely join up. Also at this point we are not looking at closing out other alliances but we will charge a fee for mining and fighting. I hope the community can understand. The CFS is not able to fight well enough to survive right now, and its because nobody has any reason to have responsiblity toward the region. We can't survive without this change. I am sorry. I promise the community this decision was far harder for me than you may know.
Senator Ends.
Predicted this a long time ago - I beleive the CFS self-righteous brigade told me to foxtrot oscar as it would never happen.
Unfortunately Ends the proposed Bill is fatally flawed as it openly recognises a CFS inability to enforce any tolls, run checks on activity or provide anything for said "tolls".
m0o, on the other hand, can be paid a toll to gain passage and then do what the hell you like.
Im intrigued how anybody can think it a "good idea" to pay an Alliance money to build a navy which, if it were succesful, would then lock the selfsame toll-payers out of access, building mobiles or placing stations?
As to the entire thing being a "Et tu Ends?" moment for the true believers in what the CFS claimed it stood for... well that goes without saying. Poor Percy must be quaking with rage at the sheer duplicity of it.
Menawhile all those other alliances the CFS hierarchy liked to***** a snoop at.. well who is laughing now?
Did you not think that there was a surefire way you could remove m0o and other blockaders without sacrificing every single last shred of your moral position... I know I can think of half a dozen ways.
You are openly saying you don't conrol the area anymore... beyond that any issue of "tolls" is redundant talk. Quite simply put this very Bill provides the nail in the coffin..it should never have been conceived and Im aghast none of your "thinkers" could forsee its public consequences or that of course you would have outraged members who would leak it (no need to hack what is freely given Ends) to anybody and everybody.
(The above is my personal opinion and in no way an official stance or opinion of my corporation or alliance.)
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:35:00 -
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never seen you fight...are you one of those that are hiding behind the navy?
Have before will again.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:38:00 -
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never seen you fight...are you one of those that are hiding behind the navy?
Have before will again.
Tal
Erm - you're currently, and have been for the last 10 days or so, been running agent missions in Empire space.
One of our corpies is based out of the same station you operate your megathron from.... isnt it ironic that the CFSN is fighting in frigates and you're doing missions in a Megathron?
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 08/01/2004 00:45:28
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never seen you fight...are you one of those that are hiding behind the navy?
Have before will again.
Tal
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Erm - you're currently, and have been for the last 10 days or so, been running agent missions in Empire space.
One of our corpies is based out of the same station you operate your megathron from.... isnt it ironic that the CFSN is fighting in frigates and you're doing missions in a Megathron?
Erm yeah so you stalkin me. Yeah isnt ironic that members of the EF "Partners" to the CFS are doing missions in the same station in a Tempest instead of down fighting MOO. 10 days right and before that ? Your talkin out your ass Morkt as usual.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:45:00 -
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As stated, it's not very good to accuse anyone for hacking it.
There are spies in almost all big corps. But the very structure of CFS means it's useless to place spies there, cause there will always be members who disagree and leak things.
It appears to me that the whole CFS is build upon the assumption that since there are no stations in FIX no really strong corps would have any interest of it. And that will certainly change once player owned structures are introduced.
Sad but true, such a democracy as CFS tried to be will most likely never work in EVE.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:55:00 -
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Erm yeah so you stalkin me. Yeah isnt ironic that members of the EF "Partners" to the CFS are doing missions in the same station in a Tempest instead of down fighting MOO. 10 days right and before that ? Your talkin out your ass Morkt as usual.
Isnt it ironic that a CFS MEMBER is accusing a businesman that has nothing to do with PvP afaik, sorry Morkt if im wrong, that he is not coming down and fighting for your crappy cause, because you did not have the brains to set up a strong alliance. XOXO.
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