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Reiisha
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Reiisha on 24/05/2007 12:01:10
 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Well I was one of the people who actually killed that Pirate Abaddon in Kheram yesterday afternoon. And the point was:
A) He had shot at our people previously.
B) He was pirating bestowers.
C) He was hiding in a novice corp so one can't set proper standings to him.
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D) He had "friendly to CVA and NOS" written in his bio.
Point B still doesn't apply as a valid reason though, since SF does support nor oppose piracy, innit?
My apoligies for the contradictory accusation earlier - I have missed this post erroneously.
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:05:00 -
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I don't believe those points were put forward as reasons, only as facts.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Saragael
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction, Ushra'Khan and CVA all work with piratical entities, against their own enemies, in the furtherance of their ideological goals. That anyone would be surprised by this or consider it extraordinary is simply bemusing.
So you are saying the preplanned diversion of Caldari forces in Mito by the use of a tournament for the express purpose of allow the Pirate leadership to meet and discuss how to better exploit the people of the region was in fact a simple act of working with pirates against a common foe?
This common foe then was the people of the Mito constellation?
No, the common foe was the paramilitaries of the Kimotoro Directive. The Star Fraction did not take part in any discussions on how to 'exploit the people of the region'. Any discussions centred on how best to neutralise the State loyalist paramilitaries. Neutral inhabitants of the Mito region did not figure in any talks.
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Now realize I understand your position clearly and am not discussing the attack of common war targets but rather a deliberate and planned support of a pirate infrastrucutre that would effect ALL outside the war target. Your claims sound hollow when put in that context. As doe your claims of being against the state run interests yet your pilots and organization support those interests daily in an effort to gain finances. Your convictions lack any real basis they seem to twist in the wind like a childs toy to suit your needs of the moment.
The Star Fraction did not render support to pirates in the commission of hostilities against neutrals then and have not done so before or since. I do not know what claims you think are hollow. We are not anti-pirates and have never claimed to be such. We strongly support neutrals taking up arms to defend themselves and let us be quite clear on one point: if entities neutral to us defend themselves from or attack any pirate group we are working with they will not come under fire from us unless they first aggress our pilots.
As far as our convictions: they are quite constant and consistent. We do not shoot neutrals. We do not pass intelligence on neutrals to others. We do not support any hostile action by any other entity against those who are neutral to us. Moreover, we do not turn our policy of never shooting neutrals who do not aggress us on and off when it suits us.
What people have a difficulty with is the fact that we assign the status of friend, neutral or hostile to other entities solely and simply on the basis of how they have acted with respect to us or on the basis of strategic and ideological considerations that we judge affect us. Those who acquire hostile status by attacking us become targets without further notice. Those we take the decision to make hostile on a strategic and ideological basis are given 24 hours notice. Those who wish to talk to us and who will respect our sovereignty as an independent organisation will find a sympathetic ear, even though they have previously engaged in hostilities with us.
None of this is piracy and none of this is the support of piracy. It is simply the working of our ideology reflected in our rules of engagement and how we conduct diplomacy.
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:52:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Saragael on 24/05/2007 13:51:29
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction did not take part in any discussions on how to 'exploit the people of the region'.
While you may not have taken part you do not seem to deny that you planned and executed an operationt hat facilitated such talks. Just because you did not pull a trigger to kill a man makes you know less guilty of his murder than if you sold the murder a gun with FULL knowledge of it's intended use. In this case while not activiely engaged in the actions or discussions you readily provided assistsnace knowing the outcome in the long term plans and such you are as responsable as those executing them, you enabled them.
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The Star Fraction did not render support to pirates in the commission of hostilities against neutrals then and have not done so before or since.
Of course you did, you worked with them to end the existence of the local forces that kept the pirates at bay. You claimed to seek freedom for all yet the ones that allowed everyone, except pirates free passage where the ones you attacked. Which is worse in inhibitting freedom, the man the allows all that do not harm to innocents free passage or the one that kills any that passes through a gate based on a whim and tribute, which really does restrict freedom.
Your calls for freedom free NO ONE but the pirates and you claim you do not support them. Your support is more vital to them than drug and sex trade.
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I do not know what claims you think are hollow.
Your claim to support everyones right to make a free choice. the only free choice you allow everyone is the one you deem worthy.
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We are not anti-pirates and have never claimed to be such. We strongly support neutrals taking up arms to defend themselves and let us be quite clear on one point: if entities neutral to us defend themselves from or attack any pirate group we are working with they will not come under fire from us unless they first aggress our pilots.
On the surface this might sound noble and good but you failed to mention the ones you are shooting at are the ones that where protecting those nuetrals. helping them to enjoy the freedom to explore space without fear of some scum attacking them unprovoked. But thats okay we did not shoot the nuetrals you say, we only made sure others could do so.
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We do not support any hostile action by any other entity against those who are neutral to us.
You help remove those that stop them from shooting nuetrals at random, you help them not get cuaght in patrols that seek to protect neutrals because those patrols are being made by those that stop the pirates. You do all this to free the nuetrals and yet only end the end free the pirates to prye on the helpless and you claim you provide no support?
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What people have a difficulty with is the fact that we assign the status of friend, neutral or hostile to other entities solely and simply on the basis of how they have acted with respect to us or on the basis of strategic and ideological considerations that we judge affect us.
This is not correct you profit from the work your people do to SUPPORT the staes and then attack those that do so openly and claim it is to stop them from effecting you? Your entire organization openly supports the state, they make no effort to hide this. Look at the standing your peope have with state sanctioned coproations and even military. You do not stand on your convictions you change them on your whim. You say you want state sanctioning stopped and yet you support it yuorselves. Show me your convictions, actually live them.
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Saragael
"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:58:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Sable Schroedinger
Originally by: Tharrn
Someone must have hit a nerve - the SF forum ganksquad has been called in.
This must be an attempt to avoid combat in space - Amarr village has loosed its idiots.
perhaps I am the village idiot, but I am not the comosic coward. I do not call out a person and call them coward for hiding where I cannot retaliate and then when they stop forward duck. Constantine has done this. I am here, i am not in a corporation you cannot warddec or attack, I am a sole man that stands before you ready to call you trash and back it. Do you step forward as you implied you would if you could. NO, now it is on me to step forward. You speak big words and then hide behind new issues of your own invention. I offer to make the wardec mutual so you do not suffer a financial hardship and yet you duck.
I am a coward because I will not take a second step after taking the first. You called I answer, rather than metting me you run and ask me to chase. All hail SF the big cosmic joke. Note how one man shows the power of God. One man with nothing but his faith has forced SF to hide from their own words and use lies and insults to try to keep others from seeing them flee. Behold the true power of God and conviction, behold what it truly is to be Amarr!
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Saragael
"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:08:00 -
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Saragael, do not worry when they call you a coward, claim that you do not undock or ask you to 'wardec or STFU!'. It's standard lines they have used so often and on so many parties that noone pays heed to it anymore.
And the village idiot was aimed at me I believe.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Nekumi on 24/05/2007 14:08:57
Are you stuck in some sort of loop Saragael? You do realise that reptition of the same falsehoods and lies won't somehow make them true, no matter how hard you clench your buttocks and wish for it to be so.
You have repeatedly and blatantly ignored the actual content of any and all responses to your questions and responded in kind with increasingly rabid responses. I would offer you tutelage and guidance in what you so clearly do not understand but you sir, are beyond hope.
Enjoy your empty threats and in-effectual hand-wringing from the sidelines. Hopefully we will meet in space someday if you ever do get the courage you so acclaim.
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
It's standard lines they have used so often and on so many parties that noone pays heed to it anymore.
And the village idiot was aimed at me I believe.
Didn't Vigilia Valeria declare war on the Star Fraction only recently? I know it was only for a brief amount of time before you retreated and retracted and I know the limited time they participated in the actual combat in theatre was brief but surely you remember that right?
Village would be too small a dominion for one such as you Tharrn. I would classify it more on a galactic scale personally.
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:15:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Nekumi
Edited by: Nekumi on 24/05/2007 14:08:57
You do realise that reptition of the same falsehoods and lies won't somehow make them true, no matter how hard you clench your buttocks and wish for it to be so.
What falsehood do you speak of, show me the lie I have told.
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You have repeatedly and blatantly ignored the actual content of any and all responses to your questions and responded in kind with increasingly rabid responses.
I have not ignored the content I have pointed out how you are twsiting things and shone the pure light of God's Holy Truth on them.
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but you sir, are beyond hope.
This is where you are most wrong, I am full of hope, for God is still god and nothing SF or the Minmatar can do will change that. he is my hope and my guidance.
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Enjoy your empty threats and in-effectual hand-wringing from the sidelines. Hopefully we will meet in space someday if you ever do get the courage you so acclaim.
I see, SF will speak high words but lacks the true coruage of their convictions to back them. You want to change the way the universe things but fear trying to change one man with god on his side. Perhaps you are not fools. You should fear God and those that walk with him.
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Saragael
"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:20:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Saragael
Originally by: Nekumi
Edited by: Nekumi on 24/05/2007 14:08:57
You do realise that reptition of the same falsehoods and lies won't somehow make them true, no matter how hard you clench your buttocks and wish for it to be so.
What falsehood do you speak of, show me the lie I have told.
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You have repeatedly and blatantly ignored the actual content of any and all responses to your questions and responded in kind with increasingly rabid responses.
I have not ignored the content I have pointed out how you are twsiting things and shone the pure light of God's Holy Truth on them.
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but you sir, are beyond hope.
This is where you are most wrong, I am full of hope, for God is still god and nothing SF or the Minmatar can do will change that. he is my hope and my guidance.
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Enjoy your empty threats and in-effectual hand-wringing from the sidelines. Hopefully we will meet in space someday if you ever do get the courage you so acclaim.
I see, SF will speak high words but lacks the true coruage of their convictions to back them. You want to change the way the universe things but fear trying to change one man with god on his side. Perhaps you are not fools. You should fear God and those that walk with him.
Your repeated ignorance will not save you Saragael, just make the fall a little easier to manage.
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:42:00 -
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A bully is one that tries to scare another into backing down. They make threats and call names and then if need be they find someone to punch. To defeat a bully however is actually easy. You do not let him have the control or the initiative. You call his bluff and force him to stand his ground. When you do he will run and try to hide behind his words every time.
SF has shown this day they are a pathetic bully. I and others speak out against the TRASH they try to pass as truth. We show the flaws in their logic. First they try to argue, losing that they try to call us down, losing that they threaten to retaliate but then complain because we are not where they can retaliate. At this point they typically ignore the person in question becuase they lacked the courage to step out into the light and say here I am.
This day things have changed for Star Fraction. I was called out and I did not shrink down and step away. i do not hide behind the legalities of Concord and take my pot shots. I stand in the light and defy your darkness. i am here for all to see and hear. I have answered your challenege and now you try to hide. You make excuses and then dance away. You think this makes you look above it all but it does not it makes you look pathetic.
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Saragael
"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:57:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Saragael
A bully is one that tries to scare another into backing down. They make threats and call names and then if need be they find someone to punch. To defeat a bully however is actually easy. You do not let him have the control or the initiative. You call his bluff and force him to stand his ground. When you do he will run and try to hide behind his words every time.
SF has shown this day they are a pathetic bully. I and others speak out against the TRASH they try to pass as truth. We show the flaws in their logic. First they try to argue, losing that they try to call us down, losing that they threaten to retaliate but then complain because we are not where they can retaliate. At this point they typically ignore the person in question becuase they lacked the courage to step out into the light and say here I am.
This day things have changed for Star Fraction. I was called out and I did not shrink down and step away. i do not hide behind the legalities of Concord and take my pot shots. I stand in the light and defy your darkness. i am here for all to see and hear. I have answered your challenege and now you try to hide. You make excuses and then dance away. You think this makes you look above it all but it does not it makes you look pathetic.
There have been no threats, there has been no running, there has been no backing down. I am beginning to think that you don't actually realise how false your words are.
Keep crowing Saragael, you are your own worst enemy.
If you want a fight, I'll be in Mista.
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
Didn't Vigilia Valeria declare war on the Star Fraction only recently? I know it was only for a brief amount of time before you retreated and retracted and I know the limited time they participated in the actual combat in theatre was brief but surely you remember that right?
Village would be too small a dominion for one such as you Tharrn. I would classify it more on a galactic scale personally.
As you keep crowing about this the reasoning shall be layed out *again*:
VV declared war on SF in reaction to the wardeclaration on PIE. After a while the Amarrian block had you pretty much locked down in Amarr Prime, where you either refused to undock - excuse me, 'spent freetime at your leisure' - or zipped around in Interceptors only.
At that point you very apparently no longer posed a threat, were under tight control by a number of other pro-Amarrian forces and simply did not warrant spending 200 million ISK per week to watch you either in station or avoiding the pro-Amarr forces in Interceptors.
And now watch the forum ganksquad come in to refute it all - round and round and round we go...
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Nekumi on 24/05/2007 15:01:28
Edited by: Nekumi on 24/05/2007 15:01:02
Originally by: Tharrn
Originally by: Nekumi
Didn't Vigilia Valeria declare war on the Star Fraction only recently? I know it was only for a brief amount of time before you retreated and retracted and I know the limited time they participated in the actual combat in theatre was brief but surely you remember that right?
Village would be too small a dominion for one such as you Tharrn. I would classify it more on a galactic scale personally.
As you keep crowing about this the reasoning shall be layed out *again*:
VV declared war on SF in reaction to the wardeclaration on PIE. After a while the Amarrian block had you pretty much locked down in Amarr Prime, where you either refused to undock - excuse me, 'spent freetime at your leisure' - or zipped around in Interceptors only.
At that point you very apparently no longer posed a threat, were under tight control by a number of other pro-Amarrian forces and simply did not warrant spending 200 million ISK per week to watch you either in station or avoiding the pro-Amarr forces in Interceptors.
And now watch the forum ganksquad come in to refute it all - round and round and round we go...
What's the point in proving you wrong again Tharrn? You'll just wheel out the jibber jabber later anyway. If it's one thing you guys are consistent at it's repetition.
You know you where bested in space and for me that's enough.
And that silliness about a JF forum ganksquad is a bit rich. I know Jas has a big personality on here and even if you counted her as three people, you and your little cronies outnumber Star Fraction posts by a wide margin.
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:03:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Saragael on 24/05/2007 15:02:07
Originally by: Nekumi
There have been no threats, there has been no running, there has been no backing down. .
So you are saying Constantine has NEVER said to a pilot fresh from graduation that disagreed that if they want to move to a real corporation she would be happy to deal with them? You do not consider that a threat or a challenge? I have accepted that challenge and stepped forward, yet now I see that SF will not directly confront me but agains wants me to do for them first, that is not backing down? Now instead of Constantine or someone of authority stepping up to stand before this matter they allow their court jesters to do it while they are suddenly unable to respond, that is not running?
Call it and me what you like the universe sees the truth. Spin it how you like the universe sees the truth. I have not spoken a falshood or said I lie all i have done is bring your own words and actions back for you to face in the light of day. As with all evil once in the light of God it begins to falter, just as SF is now faltering.
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"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Nekumi on 24/05/2007 15:06:32
Originally by: Saragael
Edited by: Saragael on 24/05/2007 15:02:07
Originally by: Nekumi
There have been no threats, there has been no running, there has been no backing down. .
So you are saying Constantine has NEVER said to a pilot fresh from graduation that disagreed that if they want to move to a real corporation she would be happy to deal with them? You do not consider that a threat or a challenge? I have accepted that challenge and stepped forward, yet now I see that SF will not directly confront me but agains wants me to do for them first, that is not backing down? Now instead of Constantine or someone of authority stepping up to stand before this matter they allow their court jesters to do it while they are suddenly unable to respond, that is not running?
Call it and me what you like the universe sees the truth. Spin it how you like the universe sees the truth. I have not spoken a falshood or said I lie all i have done is bring your own words and actions back for you to face in the light of day. As with all evil once in the light of God it begins to falter, just as SF is now faltering.
I think you misunderstand what she meant by a real corporation Saragael. I know it may seem like we only target galnet strumpets after our recent campaigns against PIE, but it takes more than a few posts on galnet to actually register on our radar.
So keep the faith, young pilot. Your time may come, just not yet.
If you just want to lose a few hulls or try to count coup against a few of the Star Fractions finest come to Mista and you will have all the duels you like.
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
You know you where bested in space and for me that's enough.
Claiming it over and over again won't make it true. You still achieved absolutely nil in Amarr.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
Originally by: Nekumi
You know you where bested in space and for me that's enough.
Claiming it over and over again won't make it true. You still achieved absolutely nil in Amarr.
Sound advice Tharrn, maybe you should listen to yourself a little more.
We achieved what we set out to achieve.
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
I think you misunderstand what she meant by a real corporation Saragael. I know it may seem like we only target galnet strumpets after our recent campaigns against PIE, but it takes more than a few posts on galnet to actually register on our radar.
Ahh I see so I am benieth your notice becuase I am a single man that things you asre all fools. Yet I recall when PIE declared you benieth their notice you called them liars and declared them cowards.. HHHmm Interesting how easily you can twist circumstances to suit your particular meaning. Dont worry I will help you see me more clearly soon.
I will make a proper post shortly but for effect here ANY Amarr organization that is fighing SF and needs recon work may contact me and I will provide it as quickly as possible. For that matter as long as ANY Amarr groups are under attack by SF I will provide the recon and intel for free to ANY group attacking SF, even Minmatar.
I am here to stay lacky and you can pass that along to your boss. tell her to quit hidding under her desk and know that a man that is loyal to God and Empire will stand between SF and the Empire in any way that I can. I may lack the finances for a war dec but I do not lack the determination to work for God.
In the mean time I will also be sure to frequent every thread SF has to find the lies they have told and shine light upon them, unravelling the twisting of words you do.
This will end when SF removes itself from Amarr affairs..
So keep the faith, young pilot. Your time may come, just not yet.
If you just want to lose a few hulls or try to count coup against a few of the Star Fractions finest come to Mista and you will have all the duels you like.
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"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Saragael
Originally by: Nekumi
I think you misunderstand what she meant by a real corporation Saragael. I know it may seem like we only target galnet strumpets after our recent campaigns against PIE, but it takes more than a few posts on galnet to actually register on our radar.
Ahh I see so I am benieth your notice becuase I am a single man that things you asre all fools. Yet I recall when PIE declared you benieth their notice you called them liars and declared them cowards.. HHHmm Interesting how easily you can twist circumstances to suit your particular meaning. Dont worry I will help you see me more clearly soon.
I will make a proper post shortly but for effect here ANY Amarr organization that is fighing SF and needs recon work may contact me and I will provide it as quickly as possible. For that matter as long as ANY Amarr groups are under attack by SF I will provide the recon and intel for free to ANY group attacking SF, even Minmatar.
I am here to stay lacky and you can pass that along to your boss. tell her to quit hidding under her desk and know that a man that is loyal to God and Empire will stand between SF and the Empire in any way that I can. I may lack the finances for a war dec but I do not lack the determination to work for God.
In the mean time I will also be sure to frequent every thread SF has to find the lies they have told and shine light upon them, unravelling the twisting of words you do.
This will end when SF removes itself from Amarr affairs..
So keep the faith, young pilot. Your time may come, just not yet.
If you just want to lose a few hulls or try to count coup against a few of the Star Fractions finest come to Mista and you will have all the duels you like.
This is so cute.
Saragael, when you can inflict significant losses on Star Fraction pilots, make it nigh impossible for us to move in space without resorting to cloaking devices, warp stabilisers and interceptor class vessels, then have us flee to cower beneath a stronger alliances skirts and someone within our group has the temerity to call you irrelevant, I will attend an Archbishop lecture of your chosing. 
At the moment, you are just one man full of bluster and rebuke. If you really want a reaction do something of note in space. If you just want some attention, come to Mista.
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Amira Silvermist
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
We achieved what we set out to achieve.
Turning Amarr into a gigantic brothel?
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:34:00 -
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The truth is very simple.
The pilots of the Star Fraction follow a clear and consistent policy.
We do not engage neutrals.
We do not provide intelligence on neutrals.
We do not assist anyone in the commission of hostilities against neutrals.
Our policy of not engaging neutrals unless they aggress us is longstanding and anyone who breaks this rule pays the consequences.
We engage in warfare against those who attack us or are our ideological foes.
We believe that neutrals should arm themselves and look to their own defence.
We do not attack those who engage in piracy per se.
We do not attack those who engage in anti-piracy per se.
We attack those who have made themselves our enemies.
We are not responsible for the actions of others.
We are responsible for our actions.
Our enemies can seek to twist the truth all they like.
We know that we have remained true to ourselves. In the end, that is all that matters.
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
We achieved what we set out to achieve.
And did what? What has changed in comparison to the time before your little PR campaign? Exactly: nothing.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
Originally by: Nekumi
We achieved what we set out to achieve.
And did what? What has changed in comparison to the time before your little PR campaign? Exactly: nothing.
We proved with action in space that PIE are a lame duck shell of corporation, fronted by galnet blowhards, with zero ability to stand on it's own and dispelled the myth that they have any potency whatsoever.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:54:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Nekumi
We proved with action in space that PIE are a lame duck shell of corporation, fronted by galnet blowhards, with zero ability to stand on it's own and dispelled the myth that they have any potency whatsoever.
Wrong.
I fail to see what your failed campaign against us has to do with your stance towards pirates, however.
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:57:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Nekumi
We proved with action in space that PIE are a lame duck shell of corporation, fronted by galnet blowhards, with zero ability to stand on it's own and dispelled the myth that they have any potency whatsoever.
Wrong.
I fail to see what your failed campaign against us has to do with your stance towards pirates, however.
If I agree with you about this being off topic, will this be dropped or will I see this post quoted in a couple of months as evidence when you blather some more.
I'll take that risk, Mr. Blake and no longer continue with this conversation as long as it remains off topic.
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:59:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Nekumi
At the moment, you are just one man full of bluster and rebuke. If you really want a reaction do something of note in space. If you just want some attention, come to Mista.
We shall see, btw I am in Mista and see no threat here. I guess you are not the might warrior group I hear of. However feel free to hide your fear behind your words and do not stand for what you say. We all see the truth and the Light of God will reveal more.
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Saragael
"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:03:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Saragael
Originally by: Nekumi
At the moment, you are just one man full of bluster and rebuke. If you really want a reaction do something of note in space. If you just want some attention, come to Mista.
We shall see, btw I am in Mista and see no threat here. I guess you are not the might warrior group I hear of. However feel free to hide your fear behind your words and do not stand for what you say. We all see the truth and the Light of God will reveal more.
I'm currently planet bound on Mista VI. I'll be in space later tonight, hopefully I'll see you then.
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Saragael
Amarr
Qodesh Tsdaqah
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:13:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Nekumi
I'm currently planet bound on Mista VI. I'll be in space later tonight, hopefully I'll see you then.
I will be happy to pass along intel on you and all your friends to all interested parties.
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Saragael
"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:46:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Saragael
A bully is one that tries to scare another into backing down. They make threats and call names and then if need be they find someone to punch. To defeat a bully however is actually easy. You do not let him have the control or the initiative. You call his bluff and force him to stand his ground. When you do he will run and try to hide behind his words every time.
SF has shown this day they are a pathetic bully. I and others speak out against the TRASH they try to pass as truth. We show the flaws in their logic. First they try to argue, losing that they try to call us down, losing that they threaten to retaliate but then complain because we are not where they can retaliate. At this point they typically ignore the person in question becuase they lacked the courage to step out into the light and say here I am.
This day things have changed for Star Fraction. I was called out and I did not shrink down and step away. i do not hide behind the legalities of Concord and take my pot shots. I stand in the light and defy your darkness. i am here for all to see and hear. I have answered your challenege and now you try to hide. You make excuses and then dance away. You think this makes you look above it all but it does not it makes you look pathetic.
Did not back down? I offered you a duel that you dodged! The only one backing down here is You.
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Fear is the mind-killer.
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