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Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.06.03 19:55:00 - [31] Originally by: Hans Roaming If you feel that strongly why not get involved? Why bother? No new alliance or corporation has the capital fleet needed to compete. Its basically a waste of resources even trying. You can't really trust to rent space from either side, because once either side wins, they'll just turn on their renters for lack of anyone else to shoot at. BoB though will not ever control all of 0.0, they are simple just to small. Noone is large enough to control all of it. Sure they might be able to eventually knock RED out of 0.0 but that's gonna take probably a year or longer more, that's assuming both the RED pilots and sufficient BoB pilots stay in game. Even the changes brought on in Revelations 2 will not aid smaller alliances/corporations. Moving the defenses outside the shields really only helps the superblobs. Who really thinks that anyone is going to bother completely destroying the guns? Once they go inactive the superblob will target another gun, once their all inactive they'll target shields/tower and end it. At this point in time considering the atmosphere in 0.0, the investment needed to claim territory and defend it, it's just not worth it. Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Diehard Si UK1 Zero Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:07:00 - [32] Edited by: Diehard Si on 03/06/2007 20:05:41 Eve is all about POWER! Fair play to BOB for having a cr@ck at the whip at taking over it. I'm sure to be fair everyone would like to do it, just when people aren't on the same side they will cry. If they take over all space, then win.... if they don't then they still won cos they had FUN playing a computer game! Thats what it's all about basically. some people need to lighten up and maybe go outside a few times -------------------------------------- Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life!
Ballistic CEO The Ballistic Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:10:00 - [33] thanks to those that understand where im coming from and have made this an interesting read. This is seriously not intended to be flamebait, though it is interesting to me that the people suggesting it is dont have a theory to put forward. Some of the answers have given me a little more hope to be fair, but non-BoB, go ahead tell me, why is it that you will not lose?
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:15:00 - [34] Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf No new alliance or corporation has the capital fleet needed to compete. Its basically a waste of resources even trying. The capital ships are out there, this weekend CE deployed 30 plus dreads in an assault on a system in the drone regions. This was one corp that used to be in D-2.
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:21:00 - [35] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf No new alliance or corporation has the capital fleet needed to compete. Its basically a waste of resources even trying. The capital ships are out there, this weekend CE deployed 30 plus dreads in an assault on a system in the drone regions. This was one corp that used to be in D-2. I'd hardly call that a new corp/alliance Hans Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf No new alliance or corporation has the capital fleet needed to compete. Its basically a waste of resources even trying. The capital ships are out there, this weekend CE deployed 30 plus dreads in an assault on a system in the drone regions. This was one corp that used to be in D-2. I'd hardly call that a new corp/alliance Hans Who says it has to be a new corp or alliance, plenty of alliances out there not blue with BoB and I gave you an example of one corp who used to be in the biggest alliance in the north with 30 plus cap ships, one corp. In fact they are in a brand new alliance they just created too.
fightnkill Dark Blade Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:28:00 - [37] It's basically a choice of A) Paying $12.95 a month and becoming someone's pet/slave B) Move on with another game The way I know, Eve isn't the only multiplayer game. But then again, it is quiet possible that an elite group of players from other games are in-control as well. Well maybe I'll keep playing Eve until a game similiar to Eve comes out
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf No new alliance or corporation has the capital fleet needed to compete. Its basically a waste of resources even trying. The capital ships are out there, this weekend CE deployed 30 plus dreads in an assault on a system in the drone regions. This was one corp that used to be in D-2. I'd hardly call that a new corp/alliance Hans Who says it has to be a new corp or alliance, plenty of alliances out there not blue with BoB and I gave you an example of one corp who used to be in the biggest alliance in the north with 30 plus cap ships, one corp. In fact they are in a brand new alliance they just created too. The part of my post you quoted specifically said new corp/alliance...... Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf The part of my post you quoted specifically said new corp/alliance...... How long has the alliance CE is now in been around?
Kryztal Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:46:00 - [40] Yup i would :p When BoB wins, the game will evolve to the next stage and more and more will work towards fighting against them. People need to evolve and up their game just like in most great games. Static is for the weak, evolution is the win button.
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf The part of my post you quoted specifically said new corp/alliance...... How long has the alliance CE is now in been around? It doesn't matter really, I'm not even sure who they are in at this point, I do remember when they left D2. The problem is for most corps in that situation is that if they did suffer significant losses they have no real means of replacing their ships. I mean CE probably has 1 capital shipyard, which would mean months to replace any significant losses. That's the main problem, BoB says they keep waiting for a challenge and then kicking all the alliance that are still really in a build up phase. So long as they keep doing that they will never get an equal challenge. I do not however believe the war is over, nor do I believe that BoB will necessarily win overall. I expect a stalemate or quagmire at this point. I still believe that RED is the stronger foe that BoB faces. The real test will be to see how many of the long term veterans stay. The current war I don't believe can be completed in less than a year assuming that both sides keep significant numbers of their veterans. If either side has a number of veterans that decide to move on to another game then that will change the dynamics a lot. Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:51:00 - [42] Anyone who bothers reading any thread titled "After bob wins..." Deserves to be shot. You think 2000 people can holdall of 0.0? Are you daft? Do you even play this game? Boycott this post and pod the OP at every available opportunity just for the sheer stupidity of this.
Kalestra Cable Caldari Faust Industries	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:55:00 - [43] Originally by: Angelonico Anyone who bothers reading any thread titled "After bob wins..." Deserves to be shot. You think 2000 people can holdall of 0.0? Are you daft? Do you even play this game? Boycott this post and pod the OP at every available opportunity just for the sheer stupidity of this. I don't think the OP meant win in that sense more has the ability to go round knocking down peoples sand castles whenever they feel like with not much to stop them rather than trying to control every square inch of 0.0.
TrippyX Caldari The Syndicate Inc DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:55:00 - [44] Originally by: Ballistic CEO Which ever way you look at it the outcome is pretty much inevitable its just a question of when. A few corps that were lucky enough to see this from the start will always be on BoBs side (grats to YouWhat for good foresight) and therefore they have no worries. they should be worried, just wait until BoB has one of their famous standing resets.
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:15:00 - [45] Originally by: Kalestra Cable Originally by: Angelonico Anyone who bothers reading any thread titled "After bob wins..." Deserves to be shot. You think 2000 people can holdall of 0.0? Are you daft? Do you even play this game? Boycott this post and pod the OP at every available opportunity just for the sheer stupidity of this. I don't think the OP meant win in that sense more has the ability to go round knocking down peoples sand castles whenever they feel like with not much to stop them rather than trying to control every square inch of 0.0. "Bob Wins" means they complete their objective: complete ownership of all of 0.0 (filled with their pets - Hi Fix, Rise, etc. ::waves::) That is their own stated objective. That will never happen because of logistical impossibilities and because I won't let them. (Oh, and a few thousand others.) Please god stop buying into their propaganda. It's silly.
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:17:00 - [46] Originally by: Kalestra Cable Originally by: Kitarie Edited by: Kitarie on 03/06/2007 18:19:43 If I am right then they are hoping another strong alliance rises which they can compete against. BOB actively encourages alliances to grow/fight each other in the aim of having a 'challenge' to fight at a later date. Of course if no alliance rose to the extent they'd provide even the slightest challenge would BOB still want to exist? hahahahaha oh man thats great tell another one
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:18:00 - [47] Edited by: fire 59 on 03/06/2007 21:21:11 Edited by: fire 59 on 03/06/2007 21:20:29 Edit - Step away from the reply button, that's it baby. Just keep walking
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:22:00 - [48] Originally by: Shin Ra It would be interesting to see if a controlled war could work in eve. If bob control all of 0.0, I would find it hard to imagine all their pets living peacefully. It would likely give an opportunity to say, OK x pet wants to attack y pet and y pet wants to attack x. Let them have a war or whatever but without 20 other alliances bandwagoning. Just a thought.
Kalestra Cable Caldari Faust Industries	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:24:00 - [49] Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: Kalestra Cable Originally by: Kitarie Edited by: Kitarie on 03/06/2007 18:19:43 If I am right then they are hoping another strong alliance rises which they can compete against. BOB actively encourages alliances to grow/fight each other in the aim of having a 'challenge' to fight at a later date. Of course if no alliance rose to the extent they'd provide even the slightest challenge would BOB still want to exist? hahahahaha oh man thats great tell another one I would tell another but I've used up my quota for the week.. next week maybe??
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:25:00 - [50] Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Kalestra Cable Originally by: Angelonico Anyone who bothers reading any thread titled "After bob wins..." Deserves to be shot. You think 2000 people can holdall of 0.0? Are you daft? Do you even play this game? Boycott this post and pod the OP at every available opportunity just for the sheer stupidity of this. I don't think the OP meant win in that sense more has the ability to go round knocking down peoples sand castles whenever they feel like with not much to stop them rather than trying to control every square inch of 0.0. "Bob Wins" means they complete their objective: complete ownership of all of 0.0 (filled with their pets - Hi Fix, Rise, etc. ::waves::) That is their own stated objective. That will never happen because of logistical impossibilities and because I won't let them. (Oh, and a few thousand others.) Please god stop buying into their propaganda. It's silly. you goons talking about propoganda is like a dog complaining about other people drooling do you have any sort of refutation or are you just gonna shout NUH UH while point your finger at us
Angelonico Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:27:00 - [51] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Shin Ra It would be interesting to see if a controlled war could work in eve. If bob control all of 0.0, I would find it hard to imagine all their pets living peacefully. It would likely give an opportunity to say, OK x pet wants to attack y pet and y pet wants to attack x. Let them have a war or whatever but without 20 other alliances bandwagoning. Just a thought. Given that hypothetical, bob would MAKE them live peacefully. There's a certain cult of worship between pets and bob (ask me about my time in Fix.) They fawn, adore, and essentially worship their masters. No one would fight each other out of fear of reprisal - despite old/new grudges that might arise. Bob won't let their pets scrap because it is not in their interest. Anyone remember they came up with the term "pet"? Or am I the only one?
jarack Energy.	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:29:00 - [52] This is what happens.. 2 Alliances, 1 Server... The mother of all battles.... Tranquility versus the chineese Server... Winner..... wins Then......? Jarack.
Johndunbar	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:47:00 - [53] pls disperse the devs equaly in 0.0!
Felxia CrossFire Collective	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:56:00 - [54] Wonder if BoB will ever bore? I guess not. Grrr don't have a sig.
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:01:00 - [55] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Shin Ra It would be interesting to see if a controlled war could work in eve. If bob control all of 0.0, I would find it hard to imagine all their pets living peacefully. It would likely give an opportunity to say, OK x pet wants to attack y pet and y pet wants to attack x. Let them have a war or whatever but without 20 other alliances bandwagoning. Just a thought. Wait a second. If BOB was to conqueror all of 0.0 they could allow their "pets" to fight each other to settle differences? Meaning we won't see 1 side with 5 allies and the other with none, just a normal fight? --------------------------- Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:06:00 - [56] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Shin Ra It would be interesting to see if a controlled war could work in eve. If bob control all of 0.0, I would find it hard to imagine all their pets living peacefully. It would likely give an opportunity to say, OK x pet wants to attack y pet and y pet wants to attack x. Let them have a war or whatever but without 20 other alliances bandwagoning. Just a thought. OMG, I never thought I would actually agree with BE but.... QFT Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
First Stotherd Caldari MisFunk Inc. Frontline.	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:08:00 - [57] If BoB win, it will most likely either result in the end of eve, or the end of renting space. Why would thousands more players rent space from less than 3000? Especially when there are virtually no threats? It would only be so long before a second huge war broke out. Less than 3000 players cannot control all of 0.0 Theres also alot of merc alliances left, what do they plan on doing? Paying rent to BoB when thier main source of income doesn't really exist anymore? Eve just won't stabilise the way BoB wants it to.
DeadDuck Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:09:00 - [58] Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf No new alliance or corporation has the capital fleet needed to compete. Its basically a waste of resources even trying. The capital ships are out there, this weekend CE deployed 30 plus dreads in an assault on a system in the drone regions. This was one corp that used to be in D-2. I'd hardly call that a new corp/alliance Hans Well CE has 200 members and deployed 30 Caps, now imagine if they work together with a corporation capable of gather similar numbers. Thats right you will have a MC fleet style, and we all know what they are capable of.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:15:00 - [59] Originally by: Ballistic CEO Originally by: Hans Roaming If you feel that strongly why not get involved? I have been, and I have seen all I need to see. There is only one side in this war. i am not making 'claims' i am logically looking at the situation as it stands. im not interested in creating flamebait, i was wondering if someone could tell me im wrong? Funny how much "neutral" guys are thinking like you. If there is only one way to this war, please explain why Bob haven't still released their ubdr rigthous fury on RaGoons then. Oh by the way : both side shoot neutrals. ----- History is made by whinners Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:18:00 - [60] Originally by: First Stotherd If BoB win, it will most likely either result in the end of eve, or the end of renting space. Why would thousands more players rent space from less than 3000? Especially when there are virtually no threats? It would only be so long before a second huge war broke out. Less than 3000 players cannot control all of 0.0 Theres also alot of merc alliances left, what do they plan on doing? Paying rent to BoB when thier main source of income doesn't really exist anymore? Eve just won't stabilise the way BoB wants it to. The funny thing is Bob think they can slave 10k/20k with 2-3k people. They could slave 1k people 20 time, okay. By the time they slave 10k people, I'm sure there will be rebellions. ----- History is made by whinners Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)

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