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Psorion
Absolute Wrath Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:03:00 -
[151]
 Originally by: DiuxDium
Edited by: DiuxDium on 04/06/2007 03:15:41
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: First Stotherd
If BoB win, it will most likely either result in the end of eve, or the end of renting space. Why would thousands more players rent space from less than 3000? Especially when there are virtually no threats? It would only be so long before a second huge war broke out. Less than 3000 players cannot control all of 0.0
Theres also alot of merc alliances left, what do they plan on doing? Paying rent to BoB when thier main source of income doesn't really exist anymore? Eve just won't stabilise the way BoB wants it to.
The funny thing is Bob think they can slave 10k/20k with 2-3k people.
They could slave 1k people 20 time, okay. By the time they slave 10k people, I'm sure there will be rebellions.
There seems to be some misconception that being a BoB renter is akin to slaving away in a salt mine. For those who exist within BoB's sphere of influence who pay rent, all they must do is give a bit of their ratters tax to BoB. For those of us who pay no rent on the Basis of being as one would say a "Guard dog" all that must be done is fight those who would strike at us.
Rebellions occur when those within your domain are angered by high taxes, lack of supplies, or overall arrogance of one's 'masters', in the case of BoB though, they display no such thing.
I'd much rather be a 'knight' of a fair and just 'king' than to simply float about the universe with no goals. While an 'kingdom' of your own is something that can be nice, it is rather difficult to achieve without a large capital fleet of one's own.
To those who lack the standing army to conquer their own lands, to be a defender of an already established empire isn't bad at all. Your masters success is your own, because it is you who fought for it. In the end, it's just a game. If I enjoy playing the roll of a knight, or a king, this is my choice.
Simply put, you're wrong. There will be no wide spread rebellions. Keep on dreaming though!
fake edit; That seemed a bit RP-ish, it was meant to look a bit more like a metaphor. So take it at that. Also, it's incredibly dramatic for just a game, but I feel it fits well with this emo-cut-cut-the-world-is-gun'-end type of thread! Maybe I should write fan fiction. I'll make you a star!
real e; this is my opinion, which should be obvious. Don't consider it a take upon my alliance. I just like playing the knight a lot more than the king, it takes a lot less work. 
Well said. Respect to BOB for being organized and focused with their goals and execution.
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Sochin
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:33:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Sochin on 05/06/2007 21:32:40
Originally by: AegriSomnia
What would it have mattered if the ****s/Commies had conquered the world? No more stupid wars. Everyone just pays everything they own in order to walk down the street, and even then you do so at your own risk. Heaven forbid you might get mistaken for a "radical". A few Jews go to camps and get exterminated, but they had it comin, right? Who cares as long as American Idol is on?
Did you really just compare us to ****s?
EDIT: Did the forums really just censor the word N.azi? This is ridiculous.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Arii Smith
Caldari
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:41:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Arii Smith on 05/06/2007 21:41:54
Edited by: Arii Smith on 05/06/2007 21:41:22
Edited by: Arii Smith on 05/06/2007 21:40:40
I look forward to the day BoB owns it all, I am sure I am not alone when I say that I am ornery as hell, and I am counting the days until I can say "I told you so" to everyone who is not worried.
It is a common mentality these days to assume that everything will work out just because it has in the past. If everyone continues to do nothing because "BoB will never actually own it all" or "Another, greater entity will do all the hard work" (Without changing the debate to contemporary politics, a lot of people assume global warming will be "solved" just because every other major crisis the world has faced has also been overcome, and so they as an individual do nothing and wait for a visionary to fix it all).
There are no other great men, no other grand alliance will spring up because there are no grand players to fill it. Wer only have the players we have now, and BoB has the cream of them.
It is not BoB VS. EVE, it is BoB vs. one single corporation or alliance at a time, and BoB has more than 10x the resources and the available manpower that any other single entity has. The fact that BoB has as man supercaps to themselves as every other organization and individual put together should be cause for great alarm, because even if everyone left joined together right now it would still be a hard goddamn fight to take BoB down.
However, instead of fighting an un-winnable war people would rather just switch sides. If you can't beat them, join them, so BoB gets bigger and the opposition gets weaker.
(I am waiting until I have the requisite amount of SP and then I am going to try to join a BoB corp, I hate being a second-class citizen but I also hate losing)
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AegriSomnia
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:07:00 -
[154]
Edited by: AegriSomnia on 05/06/2007 22:11:33
Originally by: Sochin
Edited by: Sochin on 05/06/2007 21:32:40
Originally by: AegriSomnia
What would it have mattered if the ****s/Commies had conquered the world? No more stupid wars. Everyone just pays everything they own in order to walk down the street, and even then you do so at your own risk. Heaven forbid you might get mistaken for a "radical". A few Jews go to camps and get exterminated, but they had it comin, right? Who cares as long as American Idol is on?
Did you really just compare us to ****s?
EDIT: Did the forums really just censor the word N.azi? This is ridiculous.
Drawing comaprisons to N.azis (and, yes, they censor it. I guess natsi is a bad word. Who Knew?) is my standard assault, so dont take it personally. They are just the most recent example of use of military aggression to subjigate entire regions of the world. Well, except the US, but no one wants to look in the mirror these days  Anyway, I digress. I wasnt saying you are facist, murdering pigs..well, now that i think about it  ..... OK REALLY this time, I just cant stand all the pets posting on the forums thinking that they are going to get some kind of "free pass" from BoB into 0.0, as long as they tow the party line. I happen to really enjoy the spank/counter-spank that is going on and I hope it doesnt end soon. Too many people, though, commenting on stuff they just dont understand or are even involved with. For Example.....
Originally by: Arii Smith
It is not BoB VS. EVE, it is BoB vs. one single corporation or alliance at a time, and BoB has more than 10x the resources and the available manpower that any other single entity has.
I am not going to argue the resources thing, but FFS, man, just pull up the alliance info. It aint hard. BOB = approx 2800 members GOONSWARM = approx. 4000 members. Its just simple math. You got a little somethin on yer nose, Arii.....
Originally by: grayson 34
Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
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Hunter GlobaGateways
Caldari
The Edge Foundation
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:19:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Arii Smith
Edited by: Arii Smith on 05/06/2007 21:41:54
Edited by: Arii Smith on 05/06/2007 21:41:22
Edited by: Arii Smith on 05/06/2007 21:40:40
I look forward to the day BoB owns it all, I am sure I am not alone when I say that I am ornery as hell, and I am counting the days until I can say "I told you so" to everyone who is not worried.
It is a common mentality these days to assume that everything will work out just because it has in the past. If everyone continues to do nothing because "BoB will never actually own it all" or "Another, greater entity will do all the hard work" (Without changing the debate to contemporary politics, a lot of people assume global warming will be "solved" just because every other major crisis the world has faced has also been overcome, and so they as an individual do nothing and wait for a visionary to fix it all).
There are no other great men, no other grand alliance will spring up because there are no grand players to fill it. Wer only have the players we have now, and BoB has the cream of them.
It is not BoB VS. EVE, it is BoB vs. one single corporation or alliance at a time, and BoB has more than 10x the resources and the available manpower that any other single entity has. The fact that BoB has as man supercaps to themselves as every other organization and individual put together should be cause for great alarm, because even if everyone left joined together right now it would still be a hard goddamn fight to take BoB down.
However, instead of fighting an un-winnable war people would rather just switch sides. If you can't beat them, join them, so BoB gets bigger and the opposition gets weaker.
(I am waiting until I have the requisite amount of SP and then I am going to try to join a BoB corp, I hate being a second-class citizen but I also hate losing)
You are re-confirming my exact points in my posts, this is not something that is starting now, its already more than a trend, its reality. Later’z, what happened on the CCP China server will then happen in TQ I'd say sooner rather than later if CCP does not WAKE up.
All I want from CCP is to view a dev blog about what CCP are thinking about, or are wanting to do with exactly this point. Making a 7 million USD marketing budget for 2007 does not solve anything other than keeping something alive for a short term longer. Far more needs to be done.
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Dracolich
North Star Networks
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:40:00 -
[156]
After 4 Eve years, the only thing that has really changed is the forums; Eve 0.0 space is still filled with goalless and selfish alliances.
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Alias11
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:45:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Sochin
Edited by: Sochin on 05/06/2007 21:32:40
Originally by: AegriSomnia
What would it have mattered if the ****s/Commies had conquered the world? No more stupid wars. Everyone just pays everything they own in order to walk down the street, and even then you do so at your own risk. Heaven forbid you might get mistaken for a "radical". A few Jews go to camps and get exterminated, but they had it comin, right? Who cares as long as American Idol is on?
Did you really just compare us to ****s?
EDIT: Did the forums really just censor the word N.azi? This is ridiculous.
Hey, didn't you?
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Fedaykinn
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.07 01:01:00 -
[158]
Originally by: fightnkill
It's basically a choice of
A) Paying $12.95 a month and becoming someone's pet/slave
B) Move on with another game
The way I know, Eve isn't the only multiplayer game. 
But then again, it is quiet possible that an elite group of players from other games are in-control as well.
Well maybe I'll keep playing Eve until a game similiar to Eve comes out
Wait for X online :) That will be the new uber space game
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Sarah Sujik
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Posted - 2007.06.07 02:43:00 -
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i cheered for ASCN, i cheered for D2, and i will cheer for RA! i love going for the underdog. Thing is, if RA were to pull off an amazing victory over BOB and push bob back into only holding Delve/fountain i'd actually change and cheer for BOB, there's no fun cheering for someone you KNOW is going to win! :P
if RA take out bob, i'd cheer for whoever stands up to RA, if BOB take out RA, i'll cheer for the next alliance who stands up. if bob control all of 0.0 i'll cheer for the rebels!
all this being said, BOB may caputre all of 0.0 and if they do, congrats, if they managed to do this, then it's a pretty good guess they deserved it. but it won't last, BOB are together and thier bond strong because they have fun doing as they are, they enjoy the challenge that everyone presents them. i honestly belive that if BOB (or any alliance in the future that controls the entire 0.0) will eventually collapse. mabee not straight away, but all your hardcore leaders and stratergists will eventually fade away, the hardcore PVP'ers without a strong goal or challenge will get bored, and start taking more and more periods of inactivity to a point where BOB(or whoever) weaken as nothing keeps them interested in the game, there's no more challenge left to accomplish.
at this point, a new alliance will rise and take 1 outpost... then 2.. then 10 and eventually others will see and start pushing out into 0.0 again, takeing back space, and fighting to keep it, bob will eventually own only 2-3 regions again.. this may bring back all the hardcore players to build up again, this may not, and bob may die.. there's no way to predict it at all. all we can do is watch and wait. and have fun along the way.
later,
Sarah
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Hickock
Caldari
Nuc'em fow show
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.06.07 03:14:00 -
[160]
to be quite honest, i love BoB, they dominate eve. If you cant beat them, join the,. Thats the way it has become and everyone that joins loves it. Join them, then see how your point og view changes
Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.07 08:50:00 -
[161]
Edited by: Lorn Yeager on 07/06/2007 08:50:51
Originally by: fightnkill
It's basically a choice of
A) Paying $12.95 a month and becoming someone's pet/slave
B) Move on with another game
The way I know, Eve isn't the only multiplayer game.
But then again, it is quiet possible that an elite group of players from other games are in-control as well.
Well maybe I'll keep playing Eve until a game similiar to Eve comes out
You dont have to be someones Pet. You can go live in Delve or Fountain without blue standings.
You just have to watch your behinds a bit. Just because it says BoB, doesnt mean there are BoB pilots (or anyone else) in every single system.
In Querious we have "non-alligned" inhabitants here and there. Mostly around A-2 but also in the better ratting systems with ninja ratters.
Dont think you are out of choises. Crank up a small pos somewhere and live from that. Its pioneer like and very fun!
Go ask Sniggs how they stayed in delve/fountain for the better part of 6 month.
But if you only want to carebear in safety, then you might have a problem. 0.0 is all about pew-pew.
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amstaffuuu
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.07 15:07:00 -
[162]
Most of people in eve wants PvP.
BoB will get most of the universe until bobs slaves will raise against them.
I want to be there for that.
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Attila Barca
Minmatar
Kartago Corp.
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Posted - 2007.06.07 21:32:00 -
[163]
All great things must Crumble and Fall.
BoB is no exception, should they gain Total Domination.
No victory lasts forever, and the time of the empire will always end. So it has always been, and so it will always be.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.07 21:40:00 -
[164]
Originally by: amstaffuuu
Most of people in 0.0 wants PvP.
BoB will get most of the universe until bobs slaves will raise against them.
I want to be there for that.
Feexed.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.07 22:12:00 -
[165]
Bob is here to have fun. And from what I've been reading they are having alot of fun  .
I for one wouldn't quit if they "won" however they never will. They won't be able to hold off all of 0.0. However "trying!" to is the fun part.
Also PLEASE STOP WITH THE BOB POSTS. It sounds like they are 100% unbeatable (from their statistics it looks that way  ). However CAN loose ships. Stop moaning and start up an anti-BOB movement if it's that much of a concern.
Anyway have funb bobbits! Miss yous!
Pwnage PvP Recruitment
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.07 22:14:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Dracolich
After 4 Eve years, the only thing that has really changed is the forums; Eve 0.0 space is still filled with goalless and selfish alliances.
However before there were only massive 0.0 alliances. Nowadays you have 100000x smaller ones.
Pwnage PvP Recruitment
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Cletus Graeme
Caldari
Bladerunners
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.06.08 12:20:00 -
[167]
Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 08/06/2007 12:19:45
Never underestimate your enemy - you do so at you own peril.
BoB are not in EVE to "have fun" they are here to "win" - their stated aim is to control all of 0.0 space. Frankly, if you aim that high, even if you fail you've still accomplished an amazing achievement.
At the alliance level 0.0 gameplay in EvE is primarily a logistics game. Sure it helps to have decent pilots with loads of SP but there are certain things which are essential to long term success. A good overall strategy (i.e. a coherent plan) and the organisation, resources and commitment to see it thru. Allegations of cheating aside, so far BoB have PROVED they do this better than any other alliance in game.
Does these mean they will achieve their aims? Possibly. Is it a foregone conclusion? Hardly.
0.0 is a very, very big place, especially with the recent addition of the new regions. However, it is telling that the remaining anti-BoB forces have all fled to the right side of the soverignty map leaving the older regions open for occupation by the enemy. Thus far no alliance has been able to push them back or cause enough hurt to slow their advance.
Without making any political parallels the situation is akin to German's rapid expansion acoss europe in the early apart of WW2. Except there is no USA to come to the rescue late in the day and the Battle of Britain has already been lost.
Things look bleak indeed. The question is what are you going to do about it? All those who say "why bother?" you are the reason why BoB will win, cos you couldnt be bothered to try to stop them.
We are fortune to play EvE in such interesting times. It really doesn't matter which side you choose but if you don't pick one you should just stfu and let things play themselves out.
Better to have fought and died than never to have fought at all. You only get out of this game what you put into it....
See you on the battlefield!
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Bea Rage
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:06:00 -
[168]
If bObY bAbY wins, it will be guerrilla time... woot...
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THX22 RAGE
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:08:00 -
[169]
Oops bad toon..
If bObY bAbY wins, it will be guerrilla time...
woot...
MMORPG: Many Man Online Role Playing Girl
Section XIII
LTgion +trangFre - Atlantic Wing |
Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:39:00 -
[170]
Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 08/06/2007 13:38:09
Originally by: Hickock
to be quite honest, i love BoB, they dominate eve. If you cant beat them, join the,. Thats the way it has become and everyone that joins loves it. Join them, then see how your point og view changes
woah.
On a serious note, anyone care to share what happened to eve china? So a single entity managed to take over all 0.0 in less than a year (?) over there? How many players have they got anyway?
- Gob
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Pitt
Gallente
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.08 14:25:00 -
[171]
I personally can't wait till Bob win's all of 0.0, then it'll be time to go in and pillage and plunder thier carebear pet's.
Oh, and the pure greif that bob will have from 5000 screaming pet's to come out and protect them will be priceless as well. I can almost see sir molle pulling his hair out for months on end, before he snaps and does a standing reset on all the pet's.
All in all, good time's lie ahead.
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n0thing
omen.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.08 15:57:00 -
[172]
Thats my own opinion but, BoB if they will ever take all no-sec, will eventually break down.
Why? Im certainly sure most part of all-time pvp pilots always like when theres more targets then you can kill/defend against.
So, BoB take all no-sec, try to battle with low-sec dock/undock tactics and etc...eventually the target space vs friendly space ratio will go down. Ratting and exploration isk made in captured regions wont have any use since no ships will be lost when you control all no-sec.
Attack your own ex-citizens? No challenge, alliance that has citizens usually controls stns/poses in same region so that will be just minor beating for a few weeks.
Just my thoughts...im on noone`s side.
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Icy Z
Superstars from Outer Space
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:20:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Icy Z on 08/06/2007 16:24:15
Edited by: Icy Z on 08/06/2007 16:22:04
After BoB winneh, they will tell everyone just how much they realy lub them and they will congratulate everyone on the great fight they put up.
Then, the whole of EVE will get emotional, hug each other and cry.
Even the pets and the Goons, by sheer amazement of the situation.
After this, all will go to POTBS together in love and harmony, and EVE will be left empty....
I will be the only one remaining with my exotic dancers, and as such will be the rightfull owner of all of 0.0, lowsec and empire.
But this wont help meh much, because there will be no more rentahs for my exotic dancers 
Ohhhhhhhhhh wait... maybe Oveur will stay too, he can then rent my exotic dancers, and we will live happily ever after!
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Lemptie
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:29:00 -
[174]
BoB never winns .Most pets are getting so strong they can clam space now ,All alliance that rent space are getting strong also.They just use bob to get some space and i know bob doesn`t help allot pets ,because they so afraid ,that what i say will happen.
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Lemptie
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:33:00 -
[175]
And for what worth .bob needs to claim 0.0 not the pets.
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Lemptie
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:41:00 -
[176]
bob space is still the same as 2 years ago.
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Smith
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.08 17:18:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Lemptie
bob space is still the same as 2 years ago.
This is a so wrong. Since DICE joined BOB has become betterer by about 30-43.6%
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Smith
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.08 17:24:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 08/06/2007 13:38:09
Originally by: Hickock
to be quite honest, i love BoB, they dominate eve. If you cant beat them, join the,. Thats the way it has become and everyone that joins loves it. Join them, then see how your point og view changes
woah.
On a serious note, anyone care to share what happened to eve china? So a single entity managed to take over all 0.0 in less than a year (?) over there? How many players have they got anyway?
- Gob
I heard they had a famine in China or something like that and alot of people died.
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Lemptie
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Posted - 2007.06.08 17:45:00 -
[179]
You dice guys are living in a dream ,most bob space are owned by alliance that pay for it ,when you pay for it it`s not your space anymore.
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Smith
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.08 17:52:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Lemptie
You dice guys are living in a dream ,most bob space are owned by alliance that pay for it ,when you pay for it it`s not your space anymore.
NO YOU ARE SOO WRONG. WE ARE THE GREATEST
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