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Lemptie	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:07:00 - [181] Sure you are.
AegriSomnia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:13:00 - [182] Edited by: AegriSomnia on 08/06/2007 18:13:11 BoB WON EVE?? AND IM STILL PAYING FOR IT??? GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
Lemptie	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:41:00 - [183] RA is doing the 10/10 complexes for months in so called bob space.
Lemptie	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:48:00 - [184] thanks to bob RA did make more isk then your pets.you need to do something about that BOBpets don`t pay 6 bill in the months for notheing.
Lemptie	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:52:00 - [185] thats why that rent space never works .BoBies are doing nothing ,pets go for there own space,sir molle is swedish ?
Icomeinpeace Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:54:00 - [186] Lemptie give it a rest already
Donna Divine Gilded Goose Brokerage	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:55:00 - [187] Lemptie = Ollobrains ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Lemptie	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:56:00 - [188] last time RA did cyno in 43 dreads.50 cariers 6 titans
AegriSomnia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.08 20:17:00 - [189] Originally by: Lemptie last time RA did cyno in 43 dreads.50 cariers 6 titans How do you know so much about RA Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
Effei Gloom Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.08 21:14:00 - [190] Originally by: Ballistic CEO would you continue playing? yes - next minnie Outpost bpc me:5 available in 25 days -
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.06.08 21:54:00 - [191] Originally by: Ballistic CEO would you continue playing? I've watched this war from the outset and although BoB and friends would probably like to congratulate themselves on their uberness there has only ever been one outcome. Pitching a vast, well-organised and extremely rich alliance against a collection of corps and alliances that have different objectives and philosophies can only go one way. The few larger and better organised alliances in all this would have been on BoBs target list anyway sooner or later so might as well take them out now. Which ever way you look at it the outcome is pretty much inevitable its just a question of when. A few corps that were lucky enough to see this from the start will always be on BoBs side (grats to YouWhat for good foresight) and therefore they have no worries. So that leaves literally everyone else. Tell me, will you be happy sharing the NPC 0.0 regions with the entire rest of EvE? Im not a BoB alt, im a total neutral but it simply cannot be good for the game if they gain control of the entire region outside of empire space. so after BoB win will there only be BoB left in Eve? Probably posting in vain because my post will be lost in the storm of replies, but anyway, here it goes. Quote: BOB consists of 8 member corporations, 2342 pilots reside under its sovereignty. There are 200k subscriptions in EVE. Explain to me in details please, how can there exist even a remote possibility of BoB "winning EVE"? Now I suppose there is a question about BoB "pets". They are simply not BoB. The only reason they side with them is outside threat which forced them to do so. They picked a side to survive. Guess what will happen when amount of provinces in BoB Empire reaches a critical point (and that is in unlikely case there is even enough people willing to submit). They will drop off. Right now you have 3 options: 1) Join/ create an alliance with goal of destroying BoB in mind. Be good at what you do and make a difference. Don't say that BoB have the best players or leadership, because anyone can become good if they want to. 2) Guerrilla warfare. 3) Join / create an alliance with goal of joining the dark hordes of BoB. Build up your forces and gather intel. Then start a well planned uprising to bring it down from within. P.S. If BoB's campaign against EVE is going to do anything concerning payer base it will root out the carebears who pretended to be warriors.
FuzzBuzz Caldari Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2007.06.08 23:36:00 - [192] guerilla warfare using caps? would it work :D to kill a alliance you need more cap ships, anything less is asking to get owned
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.06.08 23:55:00 - [193] Originally by: FuzzBuzz guerilla warfare using caps? would it work :D to kill a alliance you need more cap ships, anything less is asking to get owned Guerrilla warfare was never intended to conquer territory or destroy nations. The idea is to use combination of spy network and small raiding groups to inflict financial losses and hinder logistics. But actually, you can use capitals very effectively for guerrilla warfare. They are a good way to handle supplies and provide heavy firepower in an instant where required.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.10 11:13:00 - [194] Edited by: Rebellion on 10/06/2007 11:12:56 BoB wasn't made overnight. You see people reminisce the glory days of old alliances, and say that just like them, BoB will collapse on its own. They probably don't remember that the opponents of those old alliances were, in fact, BoB in different forms. We are built on a different system compared to them. What made them collapse will not work on us, as in the battle of systems in the past, we have already come out ahead. BoB didn't become organized and disciplined overnight either. One of the things we have tried to show allies, even enemies, is that discipline achieves a lot in EVE. If not for the scandal a few months ago, perhaps people would finally see what kind of challenge BoB puts forth to 0.0. It's a challenge for someone, some group, to understand what we are, imitate what we are successful with, and beat us at our own game. The reason for this challenge is that only by getting beaten can we improve our style in great advances. As we all improve, so does EVE improve as well. I believe this because as I see how EVE has evolved from its beginnings into what it is now, there is a net increase in the favorable level of sophistication to its gameplay. Don't be misled by the outcries against elements of the game that some or many people don't like. How things are now are vastly better to how they were long ago. And this is because of continuous warfare at escalating levels of commitment. A next level of warfare will be born when one entity matches BoB at its own game, with fewer numbers. Beating BoB by force of numbers alone may just herald a sort of Dark Age for EVE. Where discipline would be lost, and war reduced to something requiring a lesser scope of commitment from the combatants. To those that can see through the noise, and analyze BoB with the right eyes. Who can take what works and improve on what does not. Who will defeat our fleets and force us to evolve or die. To those who will fight us in the future, I await your coming.
SwindonBadger 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.10 11:32:00 - [195] Edited by: SwindonBadger on 10/06/2007 11:32:29 To be honest they way the south was forged... so many many constant wars, the ones who kept their heads above ground and stuck it out are aroud today and have a huge amount of war exseriance. My biggest worry is that if there is just a hell of alot of blues people wont get the training they need. Wars will make u strong, they will give u the lust for pvp that is needed to drive the heart of evey 0.0 allaince. If u can arrange a friendly (when there is no targets about) I suggest u do it. I made a post about this ( ie asking FCs about what type of ships they should use and numberss/ship classes) and hopefully miht be useful for some. What ever the future holds u want to be ready for it, nap fest might be about to happen but I dont think it can last for ever.
jarack Energy.	Posted - 2007.06.10 11:36:00 - [196] Originally by: SwindonBadger Edited by: SwindonBadger on 10/06/2007 11:32:29 To be honest they way the south was forged... so many many constant wars, the ones who kept their heads above ground and stuck it out are aroud today and have a huge amount of war exseriance. My biggest worry is that if there is just a hell of alot of blues people wont get the training they need. Wars will make u strong, they will give u the lust for pvp that is needed to drive the heart of evey 0.0 allaince. If u can arrange a friendly (when there is no targets about) I suggest u do it. I made a post about this ( ie asking FCs about what type of ships they should use and numberss/ship classes) and hopefully miht be useful for some. What ever the future holds u want to be ready for it, nap fest might be about to happen but I dont think it can last for ever. According to scources, Swindon is actually from Swindon ^ ^ Jarack.
SwindonBadger 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.10 11:42:00 - [197] Well after buying the game near its creation (was working for a games company and 2 guys there said try this) and made then name withought a hugeamount of thought. I like badgers and well Id just seen this clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgo3y_Pa7M have passed swindon many times though :P re-aligns rails.
DeadDuck Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.06.10 11:44:00 - [198] The only thing lacking to BOB have real troubles is: 1 leader. After fighting in Fountain, Fade and Branch I saw what a Leader could make and the effects that such a good leadership can bring. Yes I'm talking about MC (Seleene) is this case and how they united all the small alliances and put them working together to defeat the wounded giant D2). In the last stages in Branch, D2 was fighting against 80 capital ships + support, lead by very competent FC's. That MC+Allies fleet was very effective to say the least... It took 1 leader to put everyone working together on the same goal. BOB has one, MC+Allies had one. The Coalition had tons of them.... ------------------ Ex D2 proud member
Justitia Omnibus	Posted - 2007.06.10 14:06:00 - [199] Originally by: SwindonBadger Well after buying the game near its creation (was working for a games company and 2 guys there said try this) and made then name withought a hugeamount of thought. I like badgers and well Id just seen this clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgo3y_Pa7M hahaha, awesome!
Red Hue Republic of Red Army Anti Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.11 03:44:00 - [200] KNOCK! KNOCK!
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2007.06.11 04:48:00 - [201] the truth of the matter is, you'll ALWAYS be sharing your space with someone else. i don't know why this is such a hard concept for people to grasp onto.. if i was in 0.0, i'd rather be paying rent to bob, unless someone can prove they are better landlords. so what will i do when bob win eve? well hopefully that means i can move back into 0.0 and finally try out that mining/npc thing i've been hearing about, without seeing some poser cloaked in a recon while they're chilling at work all day. peace and quiet sounds awwwwwful good for a change. in reality, it will never happen. eve changes a lot less than many other MMOs i've played (thank God!) but it's still enough of a change that a worry that a single entity will take over an entire game just sounds doomsday prophetish. plus, there will always be morons that get their jollies by trying to ruin the game for other people, contributing heavily to their own hypocrisy (not surprisingly) without even realizing it. People argue when their personal views are at odds -- Removed Rauths' message stating they removed my empty image tag. -Empyre
81stMusky	Posted - 2007.06.11 05:14:00 - [202] There is no way bob could be the last one mabe one of the last but there r still huge alliances like cva
Marshall Knight Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.11 13:17:00 - [203] Hhm I got a few thigns to say to all of this 1) The war is not over 2) Hydra/razor/pure/morsis mihi plus others are still holding terrotary in 0.0 in the north and still fighting 3) if ya so damn worried why not get ya corps and alliences to form up and start hitting bob in there home systems while there out fighting the north apprently iv heard there systems are pretty empty at moment (maybe some pirates could take a road trip)
Cafu GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:08:00 - [204] At this point, a better question might be "Can Eve be won?" It seems like BoB strategy is to show up, pos spam for control of one system, and then try to bore people to death. C'mon, it's goons, a bunch of noobs, why is it taking so long? The current offensive has been pretty disappointing.
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:13:00 - [205] Originally by: Cafu At this point, a better question might be "Can Eve be won?" It seems like BoB strategy is to show up, pos spam for control of one system, and then try to bore people to death. C'mon, it's goons, a bunch of noobs, why is it taking so long? The current offensive has been pretty disappointing. Do not worry, we will get to kzfv- eventually, but we are chilling and taking our time in pewing pewing. We don't want all our targets to just disappear in a flash. #\|----> \///-----\|==== <\|[]- /\\\-----\|==== #\|----> ASCII Jove
Nostic Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:19:00 - [206] Edited by: Nostic on 11/06/2007 16:18:40 Originally by: Cafu At this point, a better question might be "Can Eve be won?" It seems like BoB strategy is to show up, pos spam for control of one system, and then try to bore people to death. C'mon, it's goons, a bunch of noobs, why is it taking so long? The current offensive has been pretty disappointing. They need to wait for MC to finish up so they can hit us with 200 capitals and 20 motherships while simultaneously bragging about how they won while outnumbered.
BuIIseye Amarr Pax Amarria Corp	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:27:00 - [207] I already won eve and only got a stupid T-Shirt ------------------------------ Yes i am hax0r Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/
Danno Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:38:00 - [208] Originally by: Tecam Hund Quote: BOB consists of 8 member corporations, 2342 pilots reside under its sovereignty. There are 200k subscriptions in EVE. Explain to me in details please, how can there exist even a remote possibility of BoB "winning EVE"? When you take out the noobies , inactive subscribers, weekenders (people who play for couple hrs a week) and count the multi accounts as one player, i'd take a stab at the number being pretty shocking tbh. When you then factor this into the piont you make and proceed to count out the brown tonguers, pets and the corrupted (people whose gameplay is directed by bob and they dont know it i.e. bob alt run/influenced corps) and then add the ppl bob wont fight (MC and others) the picture you can see starts to look a little different. The era eve is in, is now one of assets held as opposed to numbers and the current momentum THAT IS ESTABLISHED. The only thing that will destroy bob under these current circumstances is bob , and they know it. refer to post on page 5, as i cant be assed to write it again.
Xarax Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:45:00 - [209] Edited by: Xarax on 11/06/2007 16:44:49 Originally by: Danno Originally by: Tecam Hund Quote: BOB consists of 8 member corporations, 2342 pilots reside under its sovereignty. There are 200k subscriptions in EVE. Explain to me in details please, how can there exist even a remote possibility of BoB "winning EVE"? When you take out the noobies , inactive subscribers, weekenders (people who play for couple hrs a week) and count the multi accounts as one player, i'd take a stab at the number being pretty shocking tbh. When you then factor this into the piont you make and proceed to count out the brown tonguers, pets and the corrupted (people whose gameplay is directed by bob and they dont know it i.e. bob alt run/influenced corps) and then add the ppl bob wont fight (MC and others) the picture you can see starts to look a little different. The era eve is in, is now one of assets held as opposed to numbers and the current momentum THAT IS ESTABLISHED. The only thing that will destroy bob under these current circumstances is bob , and they know it. refer to post on page 5, as i cant be assed to write it again. Can I have your stuff? _______
Danno Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.11 17:16:00 - [210] Originally by: Xarax Edited by: Xarax on 11/06/2007 16:44:49 Originally by: Danno Originally by: Tecam Hund Quote: BOB consists of 8 member corporations, 2342 pilots reside under its sovereignty. There are 200k subscriptions in EVE. Explain to me in details please, how can there exist even a remote possibility of BoB "winning EVE"? When you take out the noobies , inactive subscribers, weekenders (people who play for couple hrs a week) and count the multi accounts as one player, i'd take a stab at the number being pretty shocking tbh. When you then factor this into the piont you make and proceed to count out the brown tonguers, pets and the corrupted (people whose gameplay is directed by bob and they dont know it i.e. bob alt run/influenced corps) and then add the ppl bob wont fight (MC and others) the picture you can see starts to look a little different. The era eve is in, is now one of assets held as opposed to numbers and the current momentum THAT IS ESTABLISHED. The only thing that will destroy bob under these current circumstances is bob , and they know it. refer to post on page 5, as i cant be assed to write it again. Can I have your stuff? No but you can help yourself to a "nice fresh one" just gimme a sec to round up a couple of pets to lay them.

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