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Scum Killer
Hang'em High
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Scum Killer on 05/06/2007 12:08:19 Until recently I have been doing carebear stuff. Before that I been in several alliances and found the organisation to be poor with minimal goals and most of the leaders seem to be more interested in their own little piece of the Eve pie than any bigger picture.
The only alliance that has been achieving anything long lasting is of course Bob and they have to be given a great deal of respect. However I fear for the future of the game if they, in time, conquer most of 0.0 space.
I would love to risk my pod, ships, ISK by helping to defeat the enemy. I would be willing to do this in order to help save the game I love so much cos I fear if the current situation continues Eve will become so dull people will move to other games and Eve will die a slow death. After all, you can't take your assets to another game.
I hope the changes in Rev 2 encourage a more tactical approach to combat rather than the current blob and pos spamming that Bob employ so well. It would be nice to be able to use hit and run tactics against outposts and maybe POS to weaken their industrial might.
I hope the major non Bob alliances are planning for Rev 2 and rebuilding for the "mother of all wars" that is sure to come. If not you can be damn sure Bob is. They should also be trying to recruit combat capable pilots from all aspects of eve such as Pirates, Carebears, Mission Runners as it will be in their interests to return to the disorganised chaos that Eve was.
Before long Eve will become more like real life with the USA controlling most of the fire power and USA pets like the UK/Israel pretending to be friends and kissing their ass. A few alliances will pretend to have weapons of mass destruction and a few pirates nations will give grief to the rest of the world.
I am now training for Rev 2 and building up a supply of ships. I will be looking to join an alliance in the next month and with it I will bring a carrier, dread, 10 or more fully fitted battleships and a ****load of support vessels. I will be able to use the new "bombs", probe them out and dictor them as well as kill them or die trying. I know its not much by alliance standards but its all I have and as I said before, you can't take it with you.
I have died many times in Eve and most of the time I have not been sure what I died for, but maybe this time I can die for the good of the game.
Its time for the masses to prepare for War. For the good of chaos and a return to disorder, conflict and Fun.
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Ralara
Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Scum Killer Edited by: Scum Killer on 05/06/2007 12:08:19 Until recently I have been doing carebear stuff. Before that I been in several alliances and found the organisation to be poor with minimal goals and most of the leaders seem to be more interested in their own little piece of the Eve pie than any bigger picture.
The only alliance that has been achieving anything long lasting is of course Bob
Red Alliance?
Fix?
Mercenary Coalition?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:15:00 -
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And BoB's got a few thousand people that will be able to bomb, probe, and otherwise wipe the floor with you and your dreads, carriers, and 10 fully fitted Battleships 
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking (despite him stopping it ... ~Liz Kali
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Nero Scuro
Jejaikaro Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:17:00 -
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Quote: So how do we "halt" Bob
OMG look over there! A rich carebear alliance flying nothing but T2 haulers and freighters in completely unclaimed, undefended 0.0 space who won't even bother fighting back, they'll just try to ruin your credibility on the EVE-O forums as if you cared in the first place!
*points out into the middle of nowhere and watches BoB warp off into deep space never to be seen again* --------- EVE is like a box of chocolates.
omg nerf chocolates D: |

Xtreem
Gallente Viking Research and Production space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:18:00 -
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RA went from medium sized, to hailed as dead to a massive force, one that puts up a good fight aswell.
the MC done great things, however have become more in the background with them being allied to BoB
there is much BoB hating, they will fail at one point, and it will prob be one of greed or taking too much power.
the pets could revolt, which would mean way too many fronts to fight for any allaince.
take too much space and just not be able to hold it (or even know if people are in it)
just give it time, they have alot, but only as long as the players within bob like it, soon as they lose interest or sothing happens to make it more costly for them to run they will fold like every other allaince.
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Scum Killer
Hang'em High
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny And BoB's got a few thousand people that will be able to bomb, probe, and otherwise wipe the floor with you and your dreads, carriers, and 10 fully fitted Battleships 
But I can take a few of them with me. 
In a Bob contolled Eve, wont be much use for them anyways.
When all the gear is gone, then I will proberably go as well, but I least I went down fighting.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Scum Killer
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny And BoB's got a few thousand people that will be able to bomb, probe, and otherwise wipe the floor with you and your dreads, carriers, and 10 fully fitted Battleships 
But I can take a few of them with me. 
In a Bob contolled Eve, wont be much use for them anyways.
When all the gear is gone, then I will proberably go as well, but I least I went down fighting.
You go girl!
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher You go girl!
dbp
but he's actually a boy!
ps. one does not stop bob. one just lets them get bored and leave  --------------------------------------
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara
Originally by: Scum Killer Edited by: Scum Killer on 05/06/2007 12:08:19 Until recently I have been doing carebear stuff. Before that I been in several alliances and found the organisation to be poor with minimal goals and most of the leaders seem to be more interested in their own little piece of the Eve pie than any bigger picture.
The only alliance that has been achieving anything long lasting is of course Bob
Red Alliance?
Fix?
Mercenary Coalition?
2 of the 3 are confirmed BoB pets, of course they'll have something long standing.....your point?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:40:00 -
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Couldn't you have added this to one of the other numerous bob this, bob that threads that already exist 
Respect is earnt on the battlefield |
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:54:00 -
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*snip* off topic - hutch
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Scum Killer
Hang'em High
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 Couldn't you have added this to one of the other numerous bob this, bob that threads that already exist 
Can't say I have noticed that many Bob threads around that I wanted to contribute too. Most of them are posted by alts, would rather post with one of my 2 main characters.
I have a lot of respect for what Bob has achieved, most of the posts I have read have been rather disrespectful. I am looking at the bigger picture and how I am worried about the future of the game I love so much and what I am prepared to do about it.
I am prepared to risk all for the sake of the game. I feel a little guilty I not done much to help but I figure what the hell, in for a penny in for a pound.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lowa on 05/06/2007 13:04:17
Meh, thats easy, just drop a carrier full of beer, spiced wine, exotic dancers and kladdkaka in NOL and I assure you no one will leave until its all consumed. Repeate over and over again.
Just remember that what ever you do, dont get greedy and try to get in on the action, then we be back here again after they decied that every1 is a threat to their feast and has to die. Again.
/Lowa
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bloomich
Trotter's Independent Traders Co
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Scum Killer
Originally by: fire 59 Couldn't you have added this to one of the other numerous bob this, bob that threads that already exist 
Can't say I have noticed that many Bob threads around that I wanted to contribute too. Most of them are posted by alts, would rather post with one of my 2 main characters.
I have a lot of respect for what Bob has achieved, most of the posts I have read have been rather disrespectful. I am looking at the bigger picture and how I am worried about the future of the game I love so much and what I am prepared to do about it.
I am prepared to risk all for the sake of the game. I feel a little guilty I not done much to help but I figure what the hell, in for a penny in for a pound.
All you need to do is to convince people too afraid to lose their ships to do the same. Bob put everthing on the line, and this will always beat any other entity that does not do the same.
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Waragha
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Waragha on 05/06/2007 13:14:49 Will you people stop whining? The most of whats happened in this war has had nothing to do with bob. It's been allies and friends. Stop blaming the game/bob/devs whatever and work yourself your way to a decent alliance.
Do you think by Rev2 you will be handed space freely ? This isnt the social security office. You don't need 400000 people to beat bob. You just need to start playing the game instead of playing the forums. This time the coaltion failed, there will be more coalitions and new alliances. After the war dies out people will be dropping standings, new cross alliance NAPs will be made and maybe then we will see someone that can properly remove bob.
Sheesh.. Why is this game so hard for some people.. Why do people feel that because the "alliance" has done better than the "coalition" the game is going to hell.
Stop emoing!
Edit: NOW!
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:16:00 -
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there is 2 types of power
military power protects/expands the economy funded with profit (or a debt in real life)
example: titan T2 bs fleet people tactics
economical power generates money
example: pet system ratting mining
territorial control and (T2) production is one of the links between the two. it is easy to see that a combination/balance of both powers results in greatness.
now, go figure out how to fight it so you disrupt the balance. or pay me to tell you. enough free advice for today  ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |

Aldormanndiobla
Muon Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Scum Killer
Before long Eve will become more like real life with the USA controlling most of the fire power and USA pets like the UK/Israel pretending to be friends and kissing their ass.
You really do have little understanding of current politics.
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lofty29
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:23:00 -
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In soviet eve, BoB halts you! --- My sig has gone into exile
This poster likes to tempt forum mods and has been voted most likely to get killed by an angry alligator - Ductoris |

EzSnake
Caldari The Silent Rage R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:23:00 -
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Yet another post on "how do we stop Bob" 
Well here is your BEST bet!!!!!!
Cancel Account/ Uninstall game = Now you never have to worry about BoB or what they doing!!! ________________________________________________ Next MMO |

darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:26:00 -
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start by not sucking big time at fleet fights.
the 25bs lost 0 killed thing i see quite often is a shocker. is it blind panic or sumthing?.
d solo.
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Agmar
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
Quote: So how do we "halt" Bob
OMG look over there! A rich carebear alliance flying nothing but T2 haulers and freighters in completely unclaimed, undefended 0.0 space who won't even bother fighting back, they'll just try to ruin your credibility on the EVE-O forums as if you cared in the first place!
WHAT? WHERE? .........../me pops a cyno
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:26:00 -
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What you need to do is take the time and build a corp and alliance with better leadership, better fc's and better members and then go head to head.
Just ******* do it instead of talking about it on the forums. None of the people that are actually trying are likely to take advice from forum monkeys and armchair generals anyway.
And yes, im annoyed at these topics ;)
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Liam Galagher
Savey
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:34:00 -
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oh no... not again...k, here is a pragmatic thing for the thread maker, easy to understand:
you cannot beat bob + allies under current tranquility conditions.
cause in order to seriosly damage such an alliance it takes several huge fleet fights with numbers equal to F-T fight or even bigger. wich is not possible right now. check the comments on forums concidering the f-t disaster. leaders (the real ones, not just representation puppets) are aware of that fact. we will have to wait untill ccp gets a rabbit out the hat to fix the problem.
so eighter stfu and live with the situation, or cancel your account and go play chess.
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Larsson7
Minmatar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:37:00 -
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It is actually very easy.
(1) Build a train (2) Fill train with assortment of pvpers (3) Remove train brakes (4) Set autopilot to NOL
Voila, you arrive in NOL and crush the ebil BoB.
Oh wait.....
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Kyoi
Shuttles Dont Tank Well
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:41:00 -
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Guess what it isnt BOB up in the North its an "anti-coaliton". There are plenty of other alliances in EVE that are not allied with BOB with the upcoming changes this BOB/RAGoon conflict is going to be a hard fought battle. There will always be conflicts and disagreements, just because an alliance dispands those pilots will form up under a new name and try all over again. Its the ever changing nature of EVE and no-one can really predict what is going to happen.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:41:00 -
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There are two ways to beat BoB.
One is to write threads about it on the forums.... The other is to jump into a ship and start shooting us....
One of these works better than the other....
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |

Dave White
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:45:00 -
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Someone cut their brake lines. They can't be halted
CORA. Killboard Personal Killboard |

Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:54:00 -
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A Plan. ----------------------------
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gutsani there is 2 types of power
military power protects/expands the economy funded with profit (or a debt in real life)
example: titan T2 bs fleet people tactics
economical power generates money
example: pet system ratting mining
territorial control and (T2) production is one of the links between the two. it is easy to see that a combination/balance of both powers results in greatness.
now, go figure out how to fight it so you disrupt the balance. or pay me to tell you. enough free advice for today 
A little more reading in political theory and you will discover quite a few other powers. . .
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Neurosis
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 13:58:00 -
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I Endorse this thread _________________________________________________' "I have the ability and the experience to do destroy BoB and believe me, BoB is getting desperate" 'Madeye'McCreedy'
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