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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 20:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Liam Galagher
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Server limitations are not a big issue.
very funny...
It really isn't a big issue if you've been in it before and know how to handle it. Plus, 99% of all fights are fought with acceptable lag.
If I'm hit by a laggy battle, I know how to handle it. I accept the situation is laggy, I handle it as best I can, I try to work towards our objectives anyway.
If I die due to lag, I don't run to the forums to complain about it, I get into another ship and go for the next fight.
I beg to differ. Some of the most pivotal battles in Eve's recent times involved a huge server related dissappointment. Eve can't support the wars it's evolved to and that's in my opinion why the war is turning out as it is.
This is not a complaint either because by and large I could really careless who lost what and where. Server limitations blow. They kill the immersion of the game and they kill the possibilities that CCP claims are limitless.
The coalition did have massive coordination to start with. But after two catastrophic battles, one being the loss of LV's capitol shipyard and the other being the fight for BoB's shipyard with the whole 750 pilot cap, things went south.
I don't care to hear about blobbing and how ****ty it is because I already know it's ****ty. But it's blobbing that wins wars. Once the coalition saw how terrible things were when they mustered together, they stopped doing it and thus gave up on the idea and pretty much lost all control after that.
Until the day that the servers can handle what the players can throw at them, wars are simply going to be what side can gather the most troops and swamp the enemy when the enemy isn't online or around.
There are no massive battles of glory and defeat. If you think I'm full of it too, ask yourself this, if you had a choice of being in a completely lagless 1000 vs 1000 pilot fight OR a 200 vs xPOS , which would you choose? Now, with that in mind, what sort of battles are the ones constantly happening?
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tzrailasa on 05/06/2007 21:39:32
I've cut your post down to the core points where I think you're wrong....
Originally by: Grim Faust
But it's blobbing that wins wars.
This is the main point where I think you're mistaken.
Blobbing in itself doesn't win wars. What wins wars are that your pilots are more willing to return in a new ships after loosing one, than the enemy you're facing!
Originally by: Grim Faust
Until the day that the servers can handle what the players can throw at them, wars are simply going to be what side can gather the most troops and swamp the enemy when the enemy isn't online or around.
No, until and after that much-longed-for day (oh, I wish...), wars will continue be about which side can break the other sides will to fight!
Originally by: Grim Faust
...what sort of battles are the ones constantly happening?
The battles constantly happening are the daily fights between smaller groups/individuals. THOSE are what grinds down an enemys will to fight, not the relative few large fleet and POS-battles.
The big battles (though spectacular) account for a relative low percentage of the total losses in the current war. By far the most losses come from the steady grind.
You (and most other people for that matter) are under a mis-perception why BoB currently seems to be winning the war.
It's not because of our uber skill or skills (other have them too)
It's not because we have good FC's (others have them too)
It's not because we're rich (a few BoB are, the majority not)
It's not because we have top-fitted ships (easy to get these days)
It's not because of our capital fleet (coalition had a larger one)
All of the above helps (sometimes a lot), but would be worth absolutely NOTHING without the real reason, which is the one where we DIFFER from most of our current enemies:
BoB pilots come back in another ship after being blown up, where many of our enemies (after a while) doesn't!
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Plim
Gallente
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dominixa
Yeah we know it first hand from fighting incompetant Xelas fleets. You wanna go look at the fleet fight statistics before you start smacktalking? No?
Oh and the thing on the Xelas boards warning your members not to engage us unless outnumbering us 2:1 was funny. You guy's were uber.
Right now we are doing whatever the hell we want.
Plim in the 6+months my Corporation fought Celestial Apocalypse weve never seen you except on the forums. Unless your an alt of course. Bottom Line is you boys got outlasted by Xelas. Its ok that your bitter/sad/whatever but you have got to give them credit for surviving and thriving through pretty much nonstop attacks for 1+yrs.
Celestial Apocalypse in its heyday provided some of the best BS vs BS fighters you could face in battle and taught us many good lessons and earned alot of respect. Everytime you post I lose alil bit of that respect. I miss Batloard..... <3
Alt = Psycarne. I think I used him more than Plim in Fountain.
And no I don't play much anymore. But I do spend some time pointing out people's bull on the forums.
Also my post was a response to someone trolling Celes if you read back. So your "lose a bit of respect statement" seems a bit off, take it up with the trolls, not me. If you respect balances on the fact that you don't want me to respond when people make moronic statements, then I don't want it.
The only time I get 'bitter' in EVE is when I don't get a fight. So yeah i'm bitter when I see my enemies running from a good fight. I only care about in game politics when it means I get to shoot people. Frankly I don't give a damn whether Xelas is still in Fountain or not.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tzrailasa
All of the above helps (sometimes a lot), but would be worth absolutely NOTHING without the real reason, which is the one where we DIFFER from most of our current enemies:
BoB pilots come back in another ship after being blown up, where many of our enemies (after a while) doesn't!
You yourself seem to be under the misconception of why you're powerful. If the coalition brought fleets to your doorstep in the size they were capable of, you wouldn't stand a chance no matter what sort of spirit you had. I'd like to point it out as a prime example how long FLA held off MC and friends. A seemingly small alliance with no hope, yet we stood our ground longer than most other forces that were multiple times larger and more skilled than us. But in the end that did not matter and from the start we knew our resilience wasn't going to save us. If the enemy force is larger and has more pilots/ships, it's not about spirit or pride or who's fighting for what reason.
I like to think the server has "the battle of thermopylae syndrome".(Think 300) Except in Eve's case, large forces are pidgeon-holed in to that sort of situation without choice. Smaller forces benefit from it too and believe it or not, BoB was that smaller force when everyone was on the *****train. But because of the afforementioned servers syndrome, the coalition lost it's edge it had over the alliance forces.
You can't say that it doesn't matter either because one of the main things I kept hearing Alliance members using as a crutch excuse is that there were way more coalition forces than them. Well duh! But the coalition couldn't utilize it's entire force without the game sticking it's proverbial stick up the coalitions eye. So what happens is one armies strength is limited by the server while the other wipes the sweat away and realizes that the enemies true power is capped and doesn't really matter.
Take for example battles in real life. Tactics may play a roll, but for the most part it's who's got more soldiers or more gear. Those are the guys that are going to win. How many times did god come down from the heavens above and say, Hey sorry guys! The earth and probability can't handle all you fighting at once so I'm going to have to ask about 80% of you to go home and only send out a few groups at a time! It doesn't work like that and if it did the face of our society today would be quite different.(Refer to the world ganking germany in WW) If an army has power it should be able to use it's power. Granted these days most nations don't have overwhelming numbers like back in the medieval days of massive ground conflict. Today it's more or less who has more buttons and bombs.
If the servers capability is limited then so will the scalibility of conflict and that in my opinion is not the way Eve should be played.
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Remmington Daniels
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Faust
You yourself seem to be under the misconception of why you're powerful. If the coalition brought fleets to your doorstep in the size they were capable of, you wouldn't stand a chance no matter what sort of spirit you had.
We did ask them to bring it to us. Apart from F-T and the other cap fight that I actually missed.. they didn't.
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Byzan Zwyth
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Byzan Zwyth on 05/06/2007 21:58:11
I dont know, call me an eve noob but the coalition had a prime chance to win this thing. But seemed like they never realy had a plan. We had serious crap thrown at us but it never seemed to have a meaning other than to disrupt us which was not enough to justify the shear number of hostile ships in our space.
The other thing I see was the coalition not securing the services of MC. I seem to remember before this all started an MC leader hinted they would work for anyone if there was a solid plan of attack with clear goals and payment enough to make it a good deal. But the coalition thought it would be a better idea to smack them on the forum and call them bob pets and even attack them in game - I'm sure after that they were dying for someone to come and hire them against the coalition.
If I had any say in how to attack bob I would have done my best to get the MC on side. I would have drawn up clear and realistic sequence of goals for them to work on and secured them support and allies to work with. For payment they would firstly need space and "set up shop". Payment would have to be more than enought to seal the deal. Lots of ISK & toss in a titan or motherships to make them lick their lips a bit. Bob are a huge force anyway there is not doubt, but the difference between having to fight the MC as well as BoB and having the MC on your side to fight BoB is massive...
Anyway, better luck to the next lot. I think bob agree - more than anything they want a good fight it seems.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Remmington Daniels
Originally by: Grim Faust
You yourself seem to be under the misconception of why you're powerful. If the coalition brought fleets to your doorstep in the size they were capable of, you wouldn't stand a chance no matter what sort of spirit you had.
We did ask them to bring it to us. Apart from F-T and the other cap fight that I actually missed.. they didn't.
You know as well as I do, if the servers weren't so laggy when the local numbers were high we'd all be having more fun and seeing larger scale battles. But people do know what happens when you form massive fleets and that's why people don't do it to often. It either leads to CCP capping a system or the server crashing and in either scenario it leads to a lot of frustration and no fun for anyone.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Faust
Originally by: Tzrailasa
All of the above helps (sometimes a lot), but would be worth absolutely NOTHING without the real reason, which is the one where we DIFFER from most of our current enemies:
BoB pilots come back in another ship after being blown up, where many of our enemies (after a while) doesn't!
If the coalition brought fleets to your doorstep in the size they were capable of, you wouldn't stand a chance no matter what sort of spirit you had.
Why don't they then? ... Oh, yes. The servers doesn't really support that...
Then.....
What keeps the coalition from coming at us with numbers that match ours and which the server can handle?
What keeps the coalition from continually raiding our back yard the way we do theirs?
What keeps the coalition from actually fighting for their space?
They did the above for the first part of the war, but not anymore.... Why?
...because a lot of their people don't show up anymore..... QED
Originally by: Grim Faust
I'd like to point it out as a prime example how long FLA held off MC and friends. A seemingly small alliance with no hope, yet we stood our ground longer than most other forces that were multiple times larger and more skilled than us. But in the end that did not matter and from the start we knew our resilience wasn't going to save us (*).
For a similar situation, look at FIX. In this war, they held off for a long time against the ENTIRE north (5+ alliances)..... AND THEN THEIR ALLIES (us/others) SHOWED UP AND HELPED THEM!
Do you see where the difference is?
At the point where I've inserted a (*) in your text, add "and neither were our allies"... If you, MM, D2, RZR, etc. had kept fighting, you'd still be there...
...but a lot of coalition people didn't show up... QED
Originally by: Grim Faust
If the enemy force is larger and has more pilots/ships, it's not about spirit or pride or who's fighting for what reason.
You may want to ask RA whether this is true... They were down to 1 system, attacked by much larger forces, but they held on and didn't give up....
...you gave up...
Originally by: Grim Faust
If the servers capability is limited then so will the scalibility of conflict and that in my opinion is not the way Eve should be played.
If the servers capabilities are limited, you may wish for better days, or you may adapt to whatever the servers can deliver....
We all KNOW by experience what the servers can deliver and what they can't. That is basically part of the tactical environment for EVE and we can't change it.
There are two ways of handling it, one is to adapt, the other is to complain....
...guess which one wins you battles/wars?
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insolace
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:29:00 -
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"Alright goons, let's jump into battle! Gate is green!"
(session change in progress)
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(session change in progress)
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"What's that bright light?"
I'm sorry but did anyone not fielding multiple "I-win" buttons want to complain about a lack of fleets being brought to their doorstep?
Yeah let's break our enemies will to fight by removing fleet combat from the game and relegating territorial warfare to POS purchases. Fighting will now only occur when the titan pilots in your address book have little red squares next to their avatars, and will largely be incidental in terms of actual impact on the war you're supposedly a part of.
Also this is not actually a gripe towards bob but rather the current state of alliance warfare. Some of us goons that are finally getting into HACs and t2 sniping battleships are finding it frustrating that we don't get to use them.
I think if CCP removed supercapitals from this game both sides of this conflict would be having a lot more fun. Instead we're stuck at a ******** stalemate with no actual fun combat to be found.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Faust on 05/06/2007 22:34:44
Originally by: Tzrailasa
stuff
Once again you turn my post in to why BoB is better than everyone else. Get over yourself already because I don't care and the majority of people don't care either.
My point as it has been since I first remarked is that the servers lack-there-of ability to handle large scale conflict scales and alters the very face of war and you even admitted that by saying people adapt to that and exploit it to it's potential.
It's because of this cap that people can take advantage of a server specification and win when they otherwise may not be able to on the larger scale of massive coalitions of alliances trying to zerg someone through sheer numbers. That is using means of technicality to win rather than size or force. Just because you can use great tactics based around technicalities, doesn't mean the technicalities in the first place should be trumped out. Server caps will always be a ****ty factor to deal with so long as they exist and no able minded person can deny that.
Once again, this isn't about why you think BoB is great. This can happen to anyone, it just so happens though BoB was recently in a situation so it's kinda hard to not relate the subject to BoB. But go ahead and talk about yourself some more if you want. Or perhaps try to engage in the same conversation I'm trying to have and tell me just why it is you think server caps are so ******* great.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Tzrailasa on 05/06/2007 22:50:19
Originally by: Grim Faust
I'm trying to have and tell me just why it is you think server capstechnology limits are so ******* great.
I don't think they are and would prefer the EVE servers being capable of handling 10000 vs 10000 battles without lag. I believe so would CCP as well as all players....
However, I might as well wish for a million RL ISK, neither is going to happen....
We have the conditions we have. Server and EVE technology doesn't support huge battles well. Deal with it!
What-if's are useless...
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tzrailasa
We have the conditions we have. Server and EVE technology doesn't support huge battles well. Deal with it!
What-if's are useless...
I suppose dealing with it will make Eve a better game? Maybe we should all just cuddle CCP and tell them that they don't need to upgrade the servers and that everything is fine.
It's apathetic remarks like that that make you sound like you care more about leaving things as is rather than making improvements. How that helps the community is beyond me.
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MehTheTrader
University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:56:00 -
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This is how I see it lv/bob lost their front. MC and a few others won against d2, no clue how though 
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 22:59:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Grim Faust
Originally by: Tzrailasa
We have the conditions we have. Server and EVE technology doesn't support huge battles well. Deal with it!
What-if's are useless...
I suppose dealing with it will make Eve a better game? Maybe we should all just cuddle CCP and tell them that they don't need to upgrade the servers and that everything is fine.
It's apathetic remarks like that that make you sound like you care more about leaving things as is rather than making improvements. How that helps the community is beyond me.
Flaming, flaming, flaming.....
You forgot to quote the parts where I wished for better servers....
Stop whining and start pew-pew'ing instead!!!
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Grim Faust
Originally by: Tzrailasa
We have the conditions we have. Server and EVE technology doesn't support huge battles well. Deal with it!
What-if's are useless...
I suppose dealing with it will make Eve a better game? Maybe we should all just cuddle CCP and tell them that they don't need to upgrade the servers and that everything is fine.
It's apathetic remarks like that that make you sound like you care more about leaving things as is rather than making improvements. How that helps the community is beyond me.
Flaming, flaming, flaming.....
You forgot to quote the parts where I wished for better servers....
Stop whining and start pew-pew'ing instead!!!
If me making valid points is whining, then you throwing out what you thinks is valid is also whining. So I guess the next step would be to tell you to stfu and stop being a hypocrite. Followed by your reposte and a flame fest that could go on until the cows come home.
But I will just cut the crap and digress at the point where I just tell you to stfu and leave the subject alone.
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Scum Killer
Hang'em High
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:17:00 -
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I feared that this topic would degenerate into a slagging match between various factions. I did post this in GD so that those in small corps and NPC corps could at least agree/disagre with my comments. The gods (mods) decided to move it and havn't even had the decency to reply to my email asking to be put back into GD. I wonder if they Macro posts that mention Bob to CAOD 
As for the responce I am a little disapointed with the poor quality. The standard "Yawn another Anit-Bob post, f*** off and leave the game", one accused me of being a Bob alt, I smiled at that one, others blaming each other for various defeats, some complaining that the game is rigged in favour of Bob and some very silly posts that went way over my head.
Reading various other posts and speaking with people I think I now know whats wrong. Bob pilots (and some pets) are simply to good for the majority of players in the game thanks to superiour FC's and pilots that do as they are told.
They do not fear death for what they lose is soon replaced be it a BS, Dread, HAC or Frig etc. So far as I can tell this is not true of any other alliance unless you happen to be one of the choosen few high up in the chain of command. I have lost many ships in the past protecting alliance space and very few of us got replacement ships.
Unless the other alliances beef up their organisation and reduce the consequences of death in service then people will be more cautious in battle, Bob on the other hand take risks.
Bob seem to be better organised at every level and this is why they are so good. Sad but true. 
On with the training.
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insolace
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Scum Killer
Reading various other posts and speaking with people I think I now know whats wrong. Bob pilots (and some pets) are simply to good for the majority of players in the game thanks to superiour FC's and pilots that do as they are told.
They do not fear death for what they lose is soon replaced be it a BS, Dread, HAC or Frig etc. So far as I can tell this is not true of any other alliance unless you happen to be one of the choosen few high up in the chain of command. I have lost many ships in the past protecting alliance space and very few of us got replacement ships.
so you're saying they're better because they have more isk to replace ships with? are a bigger corp wallet and more vassals signs of superior skill, or simply a sign of having a head start?
This is the fundamental issue I see with the whole "future of eve and bob" question. CCP just announced that they are going to spend 7 million dollars marketing this game to new players. One would assume that those new players would desire at least the pretense of having a chance at knocking down the king of the mountain, especially considering the time based nature of skillpoints in this game. If in the end a well established empire of high SP players with continually growing isk and legions of vassals cannot be removed by anyone then what's the point of playing an MMORPG where PVP actually has consequences? (unlike wow where dying is a mere annoyance and PVE is the primary focus).
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:37:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Scum Killer
They do not fear death for what they lose is soon replaced be it a BS, Dread, HAC or Frig etc.
Only some BoB corp replace ships....
What's more important I think, is that BoB players play this game to shoot stuff!
We don't have the option of NOT coming out in a new ship because fighting IS the reason we play this game.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:52:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Scum Killer
They do not fear death for what they lose is soon replaced be it a BS, Dread, HAC or Frig etc.
Only some BoB corp replace ships....
What's more important I think, is that BoB players play this game to shoot stuff!
We don't have the option of NOT coming out in a new ship because fighting IS the reason we play this game.
Stands on top of hill waving a bob flag, beaming with pride about my fellow bobs. Who cares when the universe hates you, as long as you stand together. Wouldn't want it any other way 
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Scum Killer
Hang'em High
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:53:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Scum Killer
They do not fear death for what they lose is soon replaced be it a BS, Dread, HAC or Frig etc.
Only some BoB corp replace ships....
What's more important I think, is that BoB players play this game to shoot stuff!
We don't have the option of NOT coming out in a new ship because fighting IS the reason we play this game.
From my limited experiance that is indeed the case. Too many times I seen people to "scared" to come out of stations and engage the enemy.
Too many times I seen people who sit in station for hours for a hostile fleet to leave the area only to emerge when safe in their faction fitted BS to go ratting. I also know damn well they had a BC, AF, Inty tucked up in the station as well. I am sure from time to time that person was me  , but for sure I was never alone in the station.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tzrailasa
What's more important I think, is that BoB players play this game to shoot stuff!
We don't have the option of NOT coming out in a new ship because fighting IS the reason we play this game.
Thats the reason most of us play the game 
BOB are seriously organized, but you don't fight BOB, you have to wade your way through the myriad of alliances that are willing to sacrifice their ships in the name of BOB first.
In the last 4 months of fighting, I think we only engaged around 5 pure BOB fleets. (not a flame..its amazing how you motivate your "pets")
Atm, the game cannot handle an attack on BOB space...to beat them we first need to hire some half decent programmers that understand scalable solutions, and then donate some real life money to provide the hardware
Until then..BOB rules, sad but true
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.06 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Habraka
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Simultaneous strikes on several different fronts. Bob may be good but they cant be everywhere at once.
Been there, done that. Have you been away for the last six months?
Try going it right, when i say simultaneous i mean exactly at the same time, even if Bob manages to spread their stront timers on 3 different systems across 3 diffrent days they're gonna have one hell of a time moving their capital fleet back and forth across half the universe.
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Terranid Meester
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.06.06 00:16:00 -
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You know things are going poorly when the enemy starts giving you advice on how to defeat them. Although the increase of 'its your fault' and 'we cannot adapt' threads also give it away.
Poor allies also don't help.
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niroshido
Caldari
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.06 00:39:00 -
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u want BOB dead, then stop asking how do u kill em, stop being so d&^^^ess grow some ***** and learn to fight
nough said
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Scum Killer
Hang'em High
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Posted - 2007.06.06 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: niroshido
u want BOB dead, then stop asking how do u kill em, stop being so d&^^^ess grow some ***** and learn to fight
nough said
Thank you oh so much for your enlightend responce to this thread.
When your ****s have dropped then you maybe mature enough to contribute to the topic. Until then please keep out of this thread and leave the adult stuff to the more mature folks in the eve comunity. Further input of this nature is not welcome and serves no real purpose to the topic other than to discredit your corp.
"nough said"
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n0sPIG
Blind Vengeance
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Posted - 2007.06.06 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
Alt = Psycarne. I think I used him more than Plim in Fountain.
And no I don't play much anymore. But I do spend some time pointing out people's bull on the forums.
Also my post was a response to someone trolling Celes if you read back. So your "lose a bit of respect statement" seems a bit off, take it up with the trolls, not me. If you respect balances on the fact that you don't want me to respond when people make moronic statements, then I don't want it.
The only time I get 'bitter' in EVE is when I don't get a fight. So yeah i'm bitter when I see my enemies running from a good fight. I only care about in game politics when it means I get to shoot people. Frankly I don't give a damn whether Xelas is still in Fountain or not.
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Lord Seth
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.06 00:58:00 -
[117]
"You can't stop progression"
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violator2k5
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.06 01:05:00 -
[118]
Originally by: insolace
Fighting will now only occur when the titan pilots in your address book have little red squares next to their avatars, and will largely be incidental in terms of actual impact on the war you're supposedly a part of.
I think if CCP removed supercapitals from this game both sides of this conflict would be having a lot more fun. Instead we're stuck at a ******** stalemate with no actual fun combat to be found.
Sunday 27 May 2007 18:00 eve time, wasnt a goon fleet sitting in 77s with a RA mom which went through 3 consecutive battles that happened?
yes......
did i get my butt handed to me on a silver plater?
yes.....
did i have fun and get a new ship to get back in there for more?
ofc 
did those of you in goons who were at that battle have fun?
my reason for writing this is that our titan pilot was logged in, goons were up for a fight so we went balls to the wall and jumped in to get a fight. if you dont have the testicular fortitude to do something like that you might as well quit eve or stay in empire. super caps are in this game to stay so you either adapt and do the best you can or you just give up. there are still pleanty of oportunities to have fun with pvp besides having a super cap at your side waiting to pounce
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BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY
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Skywatch
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Posted - 2007.06.06 01:14:00 -
[119]
NPC stations is where the rebels can gather.....In all seriousness lets not be doomsayers when it comes to the future of EVE
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Cartiff
Darwin With Attitude
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.06.06 05:49:00 -
[120]
I have a cunning plan!
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