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Anehra
X-Fire
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:04:00 -
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The worst written (EVE-relate) interview I ever seen.
I can't make out if Magnus is just poorly informed about the game he is creating/playing, of it's the person interviewing that is sorting out the dialogue from what he guess Magnus said.
One of them is poorly informed and clearly know very little of EVE. Whichever it is, it's impossible to read the interview and take anything serious as everything quite possibly might be false and misinterpreted.
Tragic.
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Richard Aiel
Caldari The Funkstars Guild
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Posted - 2007.06.12 01:08:00 -
[152]
I havent read all of the posts here yet but to start I REALLY REALLY REEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLY like the "We have a very open dialogue with our players" Comment
ROFLMAO I cant put anything here Im A troublemaker |

Havoc GunStar
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 01:29:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Black Omega
Well, I hate to sound like a bit of an "I told you so", but it isn't like I (well, er, the other me), didn't point out the inbalance between the profit margins on NPC trade goods and the introduction of freighters. You don't need a titan and 3 freighters to make this kind of isk from daily NPC trade runs, it just makes those runs a bit easier - which seems to make sense with the investment involved.
"a bit easier"?
That's a bit of a misnomer. I think the term you are looking for is "zero risk". Escorting a freighter through 0.0 is risky and dangerous work, that requires many people, reducing it's profitability. Jump bridging it from station to station with a mothership and a Titan guarding, is zero risk. Five people, some fuel, and zero risk. Someone would have to fall asleep for this to backfire.
Letting 10/10's respawn every hour would make things 'a bit easier' too. Working as intended? Probably not. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA
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Posted - 2007.06.12 01:40:00 -
[154]
Reading the first page i can see the goons are out in force.
My message to you: I dont give a crap about your war with bob. Bring legal charges against CCP or shut up and hit the terminate subscription switch. It started off as something decent its degenerated into a bout of namecalling that no one likes. Honestly end this one way or the other.
As for the titan thing. He probably means that caps can knock out a titan in battle and a good battleship has a solid chance of surviving a Doomsday. A titan while it can survive serious damage is not going to be able to take a dedicated assault on its own and probably could at most get one doomsday off. Even in a fleet fight titan is going to be the called target and then its just a race.
To Bob: You are handling yourselves admirably all things considered and i flat out hate your guts. The alliance name references one of the bravest groups of men ever to exist and it really irks me the scraps both in game and in forums you have dragged that name through.
To all who think bob is going to be able to gain full control of zero sec. Get ahold of your life. Even with titan bridges bob is not going to be able to mantain that kind of pos network. New changes are going to limit how much an alliance will be able to control. Good luck.
Good interview. Glad it was posted.
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 02:40:00 -
[155]
Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with.
Next time I am interviewed I think I will say something like this:
"CCP is deeply involved with BOB to the extent of personal friendships being exploited in game via Mesenger and other means. Occationally a player discovers CCP misconduct and is promptly banned from the game while CCP do their best to hide the facts and dont do anything to remove the damage caused to in game economics."
That statement is definetely more true than Magnus's and almost as provoking... It is however unfair and biased... and totally inappropriate if it was said about a customer.
Magnus, as a representative for a company with customers you simply cant say anything like that out loud while a jounalist is within earshot... first of all it is wrong and secondly it is abysmally stupid.
What you just did is going to cost me and a lot of other cooler heads a LOT of grief trying to explain to corp members that you as an individual is an idiot and dont represent CCP as a company... well done m8 (sarcasm)
Dont get mad - Get even |

Phelan Driscoll
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 02:42:00 -
[156]
Thanks, Magnus!
Now my goal for the week is to grief at least 5 empire newbies to the point where they quit eve and cancel their accounts.
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.06.12 02:49:00 -
[157]
khihiihihi..
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Gorfob
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Posted - 2007.06.12 03:05:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Gorfob on 12/06/2007 03:04:27 Believe it or not it's only a tiny portion that actively care about any of this meta crap
Understandably people get a bit worked up but it's true for many games.
The large portion of us swarm members just want to kill stuff doesn't matter who.
The meta game fuels more people to attack which = more fun (for certain sides)
Every time something like this erupts it pours more fuel on that 'meta' fire
So in closing I would like to thank everyone for loving GoonSwarm.
-dbp |

violator2k5
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 03:26:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with.
Next time I am interviewed I think I will say something like this:
"CCP is deeply involved with BOB to the extent of personal friendships being exploited in game via Mesenger and other means. Occationally a player discovers CCP misconduct and is promptly banned from the game while CCP do their best to hide the facts and dont do anything to remove the damage caused to in game economics."
That statement is definetely more true than Magnus's and almost as provoking... It is however unfair and biased... and totally inappropriate if it was said about a customer.
Magnus, as a representative for a company with customers you simply cant say anything like that out loud while a jounalist is within earshot... first of all it is wrong and secondly it is abysmally stupid.
What you just did is going to cost me and a lot of other cooler heads a LOT of grief trying to explain to corp members that you as an individual is an idiot and dont represent CCP as a company... well done m8 (sarcasm)
if his not representing CCP as a company, then why is he giving a promotional interview?
as for the "cooler heads" explination im sure if they read the interview for what it is, then they would understand why CCP are making those comments about your so called alliance after the stunts you've pulled.
i for one feel that apart from the goons crap that was in that interview, it went very well and was very informative to potential new customers for EVE.
nice work magnus  ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 03:36:00 -
[160]
Originally by: violator2k5
i for one feel that apart from the goons crap that was in that interview, it went very well and was very informative to potential new customers for EVE. nice work magnus 
I agree, however the goon comment was a major Faux pas so it sort of ruins the whole picture of the interview for me.
Dont get mad - Get even |

Richard Aiel
Caldari The Funkstars Guild
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Posted - 2007.06.12 04:05:00 -
[161]
MOST of this seems screwed up... he doesnt seem to even know hopw the game mechanics of the game work, he flat out lies about having good communication with the customers, and he insults a large group of them...
I cant put anything here Im A troublemaker |

Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 06:04:00 -
[162]
Originally by: AegriSomnia
Write this down Magnus, and keep it near your desk, as it is a quote that defines the Goons, to me anyway, and maybe you can look at us with a different perspective.
The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is nanve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair. ~H. L. Mencken
Look at you from a different perspective? What the heck? You think that quoting some dead intelectuals will make you morally superior? This is a game, this is not a country with a 200 year or more of political history, this is not a country where our children have to live in the future, this is not a country where you have to look around you an see moral wrongs done to your people on a daily basis.
In addition to that, I sincerely hope that no radical has been driven to despair in the past by so little and without feeling due process failing before he did so. Despair is a long term process and sure you can say that the t20 incident made you suspicious and I would understand that if it was still january and obvious new avenues were not in place now.
Goons, you acted disgracefully, your actions were in no way in direct balance with your circumstanctial evidence. You are not morally superior, you are simply a group of gamers who overreacted and in the process brought bad attention to good people.
Goons, I and many others in the community look upon you with disdain.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:08:00 -
[163]
Nice interview.
at goonswarm pilots crying and whining about being commented on in an interview. I thought that was your aim?
If you don't like your alliance coming under flak for attacking CCP then perhaps it's time to move to one that simply plays the game.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Cringeley
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:11:00 -
[164]
Originally by: DB Preacher If you don't like your alliance coming under flak for attacking CCP then perhaps it's time to move to one that simply plays the game.
Does that mean you like receiving free BPOs from developers?
dbp |

Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:26:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Cringeley Does that mean you like receiving free BPOs from developers?
dbp
You must be the most backward GoonSwarm poster yet, posterboy for ycs. Why haven't you cancelled yet? GS is making itself look more ridiculous then ever before in this thread. |

Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:33:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: DB Preacher If you don't like your alliance coming under flak for attacking CCP then perhaps it's time to move to one that simply plays the game.
Does that mean you like receiving free BPOs from developers?
dbp
Not that I really want to get into this, but according to the evidence posted by mister Kugu BoB paid t20 a significant sum for the bpo's, perhaps you should go and read Kugu's allegations and proofs?
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Sir Lolle
Amarr Band of Brolols
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:35:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Cringeley Does that mean you like receiving free BPOs from developers?
dbp
You must be the most backward GoonSwarm poster yet, posterboy for ycs. Why haven't you cancelled yet? GS is making itself look more ridiculous then ever before in this thread.
YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO GOONSWARM AND GOONFLEET THE CORPORATION Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected][orange] with a link to your signature. - Elm |

DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:36:00 -
[168]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 12/06/2007 07:35:31
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: DB Preacher If you don't like your alliance coming under flak for attacking CCP then perhaps it's time to move to one that simply plays the game.
Does that mean you like receiving free BPOs from developers?
dbp
blah blah blah, the more peeps like you in goonswarm that abuse others on here, the more diluted your message becomes and the more peeps see through your rubbish.
Continue your tirads by all means but I have a feeling you will be seeing less and less people actually worrying about what you say and simply laughing at you.
This is the internetz remember, serious business and all. 
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Toffles
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:50:00 -
[169]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 12/06/2007 07:35:31
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: DB Preacher If you don't like your alliance coming under flak for attacking CCP then perhaps it's time to move to one that simply plays the game.
Does that mean you like receiving free BPOs from developers?
dbp
blah blah blah, the more peeps like you in goonswarm that abuse others on here, the more diluted your message becomes and the more peeps see through your rubbish.
Continue your tirads by all means but I have a feeling you will be seeing less and less people actually worrying about what you say and simply laughing at you.
This is the internetz remember, serious business and all. 
dbp
Yes I'm sure any day now people will start to see things the "BoB" way. I mean 4 years is a long time to play a game, you deserve the special treatment.
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:54:00 -
[170]
Originally by: DB Preacher blah blah blah, the more peeps like you in goonswarm that abuse others on here, the more diluted your message becomes and the more peeps see through your rubbish.
Continue your tirads by all means but I have a feeling you will be seeing less and less people actually worrying about what you say and simply laughing at you.
This is the internetz remember, serious business and all. 
dbp
i would appreciate it if you quit calling people a dead beat *****, thanks
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Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:03:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 12/06/2007 07:35:31
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: DB Preacher If you don't like your alliance coming under flak for attacking CCP then perhaps it's time to move to one that simply plays the game.
Does that mean you like receiving free BPOs from developers?
dbp
blah blah blah, the more peeps like you in goonswarm that abuse others on here, the more diluted your message becomes and the more peeps see through your rubbish.
Continue your tirads by all means but I have a feeling you will be seeing less and less people actually worrying about what you say and simply laughing at you.
This is the internetz remember, serious business and all. 
dbp
Yes I'm sure any day now people will start to see things the "BoB" way. I mean 4 years is a long time to play a game, you deserve the special treatment.
As opposed to the "goon" way?
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:09:00 -
[172]
Quote: Magnus: In the past, weÆve always seen an improvement with these upgrades. Previously, we would be right on the edge along with our growth, but due to our Finally, we never felt that we were a corporation trying to sell a game. CCP was just a company that wanted to create a game that they wanted to play with the gamers.
THis is where it al goes wrong.. times change ccp should to
->My Vids<- |

Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:11:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky As opposed to the "goon" way?
yeah wanting to have fun playing a game without bias or conflict of interest from the developers sure is stupid
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s4mp3r0r
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:12:00 -
[174]
can someone just please start sueing CCP for all the rubbish they can spout of in every interview ?
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:15:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Jamie Hara
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Jamie Hara Edited by: Jamie Hara on 11/06/2007 15:00:57 Please explain this statement:
Magnus: First, Titans have the Doomsday Device, which obliterates smaller ships if nothing is tanking for them. But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing.
"But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing."
Someone please explain how larger ships can protect the smaller ships from a Doomsday Device.    
God knows. Maybe he was talking about remote repping and such? Doesn't make much sense, anyway, seeing as it's an instant HP hit, not a damage-over-time thing.
Whatever it is, it's a tactic that I've not heard of.
Wouldn't smaller ships die instantly from a Doomsday Device?
I have seen bomb which give you a 99,9 % dmg resist bonus.. So people will be able to hide in to that and then not getting killed
->My Vids<- |

Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:18:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky As opposed to the "goon" way?
yeah wanting to have fun playing a game without bias or conflict of interest from the developers sure is stupid
yeb it sure is stupid to assume stuff with circumstancial evidence supported with a singular incident, im smiling inside knowing that you as a member of goonswarm appreciates how stupid it indeed is.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:22:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Toffles Yes I'm sure any day now people will start to see things the "BoB" way. I mean 4 years is a long time to play a game, you deserve the special treatment.
Ah, god to see you haven't forgotten the goonswarm mantra: "If I keep saying it, it will come true."
Just keep on repeating it!
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: DB Preacher blah blah blah, the more peeps like you in goonswarm that abuse others on here, the more diluted your message becomes and the more peeps see through your rubbish.
Continue your tirads by all means but I have a feeling you will be seeing less and less people actually worrying about what you say and simply laughing at you.
This is the internetz remember, serious business and all. 
dbp
i would appreciate it if you quit calling people a dead beat *****, thanks
Which post were you reading?

dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:23:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Lee Bian on 12/06/2007 08:22:55
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky yeb it sure is stupid to assume stuff with circumstancial evidence supported with a singular incident,
so dianabolic admitting msn contact with developers does not scream parity and/or conflict of interest to you or will you just ignore that part
Quote: im smiling inside knowing that you as a member of goonswarm appreciates how stupid it indeed is.
much like your posting
edit:
Originally by: DB Preacher Which post were you reading?

dbp
no you're a dbp
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Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:27:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Lee Bian
i would appreciate it if you quit calling people a dead beat *****, thanks
Which post were you reading?

dbp
He is just making fun of your signature, dbp = dead beat *censored*, very mature and all.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:35:00 -
[180]
It's amazing, I wonder how long it took him to come up with that. My sides are splitting with merriment.
No really they are.
lol?
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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