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RaTTuS BIG BIG is Beautiful	Posted - 2007.06.11 14:50:00 - [1] Nuff said -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & Blog
Jamie Hara	Posted - 2007.06.11 14:57:00 - [2] Edited by: Jamie Hara on 11/06/2007 15:00:57 Please explain this statement: Magnus: First, Titans have the Doomsday Device, which obliterates smaller ships if nothing is tanking for them. But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing. "But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing." Someone please explain how larger ships can protect the smaller ships from a Doomsday Device.
Daedalus DuGalle Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:05:00 - [3] Well if all the big ships congregate in one area, and the small ships in another, the Titan pilot will probably doomsday the big ships hoping to maximise damage. Hence big ships protecting small ships. Maybe? Originally by: Janu Hull Nothing says gritty cynicism like a 1 ISK note wedged between a pair of silicone enhanced knockers.
Tabouli GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:11:00 - [4] Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. While the question probably put you in an awkward position, this is a really, really amazing thing to say. How can you possibly present yourself as a respectable business while making sweeping comments like this about your customers? snip - please do not use that signature. -Ivan K
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:12:00 - [5] Originally by: Daedalus DuGalle Well if all the big ships congregate in one area, and the small ships in another, the Titan pilot will probably doomsday the big ships hoping to maximise damage. Hence big ships protecting small ships. Maybe? That isn't protecting. That is diverting which can be done with ships of any size. He said that many of the larger ships could protect smaller ships. Does he mean logistic ships?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:13:00 - [6] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/06/2007 15:12:29 Originally by: Tabouli Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. While the question probably put you in an awkward position, this is a really, really amazing thing to say. How can you possibly present yourself as a respectable business while making sweeping comments like this about your customers? What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:14:00 - [7] welp the jig is up we're afraid of a blemish on our alliance warfare record Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Magnus The allegations have basically been proven false. That is just class that is. You'd think Kieron wrote that line it's so condascendingly untrue. Was I the only person who noticed that Kieron's big massive page debunking the allegations glossed over the rigged Aurora in THREE lines? Re-iterating the allegation and finishing up with "but we found nothing wrong" isn't proof of anything at all. And failing to mention why BoB are allowed GM friends, and Goons aren't. That doesn't add up to proof either. Still. Deaf ears, and all that jazz...
Deaken Fiss GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/06/2007 15:12:29 Originally by: Tabouli Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. While the question probably put you in an awkward position, this is a really, really amazing thing to say. How can you possibly present yourself as a respectable business while making sweeping comments like this about your customers? What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. yeah its not like we lost against D2 in XZH before... were all cheaters too...
Ceros X GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/06/2007 15:12:29 Originally by: Tabouli Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. While the question probably put you in an awkward position, this is a really, really amazing thing to say. How can you possibly present yourself as a respectable business while making sweeping comments like this about your customers? What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. Yep, BoB certainly aren't beating us because they have higher SP, better co-ordination, better individual skill and more resources. Nope, they're cheating.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Jamie Hara Edited by: Jamie Hara on 11/06/2007 15:00:57 Please explain this statement: Magnus: First, Titans have the Doomsday Device, which obliterates smaller ships if nothing is tanking for them. But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing. "But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing." Someone please explain how larger ships can protect the smaller ships from a Doomsday Device. God knows. Maybe he was talking about remote repping and such? Doesn't make much sense, anyway, seeing as it's an instant HP hit, not a damage-over-time thing. Whatever it is, it's a tactic that I've not heard of. --------
DarkFenix Caldari Pilots Of Honour	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Tabouli Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. While the question probably put you in an awkward position, this is a really, really amazing thing to say. How can you possibly present yourself as a respectable business while making sweeping comments like this about your customers? Well, it's essentially true. And anyway, I would tend towards valuing a bit of straight talking honesty above any PR crap companies usually feed the public.
Tabouli GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Shikari What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. It doesn't matter if he is correct or not, he's making sweeping callous comments about his customers. It's just really, really unprofessional. It's one thing for the players in a sandbox to demonize each other, but the creators? To what end? Alienating their playerbase?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Tabouli Originally by: Dark Shikari What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. It doesn't matter if he is correct or not, he's making sweeping callous comments about his customers. It's just really, really unprofessional. It's one thing for the players in a sandbox to demonize each other, but the creators? To what end? Alienating their playerbase? Alienating people who intentionally tried to defame the company and DDOS the company's servers? I say more power to CCP . P.S. To the goons in this thread: hihihihihihihi 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Jamie Hara	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Jamie Hara Edited by: Jamie Hara on 11/06/2007 15:00:57 Please explain this statement: Magnus: First, Titans have the Doomsday Device, which obliterates smaller ships if nothing is tanking for them. But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing. "But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing." Someone please explain how larger ships can protect the smaller ships from a Doomsday Device. God knows. Maybe he was talking about remote repping and such? Doesn't make much sense, anyway, seeing as it's an instant HP hit, not a damage-over-time thing. Whatever it is, it's a tactic that I've not heard of. Wouldn't smaller ships die instantly from a Doomsday Device?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:26:00 - [16] Originally by: Jamie Hara Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Jamie Hara Edited by: Jamie Hara on 11/06/2007 15:00:57 Please explain this statement: Magnus: First, Titans have the Doomsday Device, which obliterates smaller ships if nothing is tanking for them. But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing. "But many of the larger ships can protect the smaller ships from that sort of thing." Someone please explain how larger ships can protect the smaller ships from a Doomsday Device. God knows. Maybe he was talking about remote repping and such? Doesn't make much sense, anyway, seeing as it's an instant HP hit, not a damage-over-time thing. Whatever it is, it's a tactic that I've not heard of. Wouldn't smaller ships die instantly from a Doomsday Device? That's Jamie's point, I think. They would, making such "protection" totally useless. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:26:00 - [17] Originally by: DarkFenix Originally by: Tabouli Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. While the question probably put you in an awkward position, this is a really, really amazing thing to say. How can you possibly present yourself as a respectable business while making sweeping comments like this about your customers? Well, it's essentially true. And anyway, I would tend towards valuing a bit of straight talking honesty above any PR crap companies usually feed the public. This straight talking honesty is as rare as a Goon in a battleship. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Tabouli GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:27:00 - [18] Originally by: Dark Shikari Alienating people who intentionally tried to defame the company and DDOS the company's servers? I say more power to CCP . P.S. To the goons in this thread: hihihihihihihi I guess the term sandbox was more accurate than I thought. snip - please do not use that signature. -Ivan K
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Dramaticus Originally by: DarkFenix Originally by: Tabouli Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. While the question probably put you in an awkward position, this is a really, really amazing thing to say. How can you possibly present yourself as a respectable business while making sweeping comments like this about your customers? Well, it's essentially true. And anyway, I would tend towards valuing a bit of straight talking honesty above any PR crap companies usually feed the public. This straight talking honesty is as rare as a Goon in a battleship. /glances at BoB killboard... So quite common, you say? 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Deaken Fiss GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tabouli Originally by: Dark Shikari What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. It doesn't matter if he is correct or not, he's making sweeping callous comments about his customers. It's just really, really unprofessional. It's one thing for the players in a sandbox to demonize each other, but the creators? To what end? Alienating their playerbase? Alienating people who intentionally tried to defame the company and DDOS the company's servers? I say more power to CCP . P.S. To the goons in this thread: hihihihihihihi do you believe in what you are writing here?
DarkFenix Caldari Pilots Of Honour	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:30:00 - [21] Originally by: Tabouli Originally by: Dark Shikari What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. It doesn't matter if he is correct or not, he's making sweeping callous comments about his customers. It's just really, really unprofessional. It's one thing for the players in a sandbox to demonize each other, but the creators? To what end? Alienating their playerbase? Look at it this way. GS and friends painted CCP as being a corrupt, game-rigging disgrace of a company across the internet in general. Why bother just saying "no this isn't the case", instead, say something to the tune of "well, we don't blame them, they're a bunch of idiots taking a game way too seriously, who are losing so they make a bunch of wild accusations". It undermines GS's credibility far more, making the accusations sound rather more ridiculous. From that perspective, it sounds like reasonably good business sense. And he doesn't really come off as unprofessional. Certainly a bit dismissive and patronising, but not really unprofessional. Ofc, the Eve community now knows GS doesn't have any credibility, but the rest of the online community may well still have some belief in the allegations.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:30:00 - [22] Originally by: Deaken Fiss do you believe in what you are writing here? Please explain how making up lies about CCP and submitting them to dozens of news sites and magazines is not an attempt to defame the company. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Makhan	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:31:00 - [23] Quote: Magnus: They refuse to admit that theyÆre losing to another alliance, and the only explanation that they can figure out is that those guys are cheating. Not just that theyÆre cheating, but that theyÆre cheating in cooperation with employees at CCP. That seems to be the only logical explanation that theyÆre coming up with. Stopped reading here.
Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Interview Most of the requests come through our forums, and we all actively read that material. Players might not realize it, but reading the forums is like a religion here at CCP. Most of us do it every day. Does that make DS Jesus, or the Pope? Originally by: Deaken Fiss Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tabouli Originally by: Dark Shikari What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. It doesn't matter if he is correct or not, he's making sweeping callous comments about his customers. It's just really, really unprofessional. It's one thing for the players in a sandbox to demonize each other, but the creators? To what end? Alienating their playerbase? Alienating people who intentionally tried to defame the company and DDOS the company's servers? I say more power to CCP . P.S. To the goons in this thread: hihihihihihihi do you believe in what you are writing here? I believe it, and judging from who I've spoken with the majority of EVE believes this way as well. erm...GOONSWARM IS EBIL.
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tabouli Originally by: Dark Shikari What's wrong with the quote? It seems quite accurate to me. As I like to say, if at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. It doesn't matter if he is correct or not, he's making sweeping callous comments about his customers. It's just really, really unprofessional. It's one thing for the players in a sandbox to demonize each other, but the creators? To what end? Alienating their playerbase? Alienating people who intentionally tried to defame the company and DDOS the company's servers? I say more power to CCP . P.S. To the goons in this thread: hihihihihihihi Do you know a) what a ddos is, and b) what would have actually happened to eve if we actually performed one?
Cheunger BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:32:00 - [26] Edited by: Cheunger on 11/06/2007 15:32:09 Originally by: RaTTuS Nuff said His response to the first two questions is always going to be the same. From the company's point of view, they would be foolish to even consider stating that the allegations are true. This would ruin the company. Hence, their made up and vague statements about them being false. Goons refusing to admit loss? More bias from BoD? Goons barely even attacked BoD since they obliterated LV. Edit: spelling
Deaken Fiss GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Deaken Fiss do you believe in what you are writing here? Please explain how making up lies about CCP and submitting them to dozens of news sites and magazines is not an attempt to defame the company. yawns
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Alias11 Do you know a) what a ddos is, and b) what would have actually happened to eve if we actually performed one? There are many forms of DDOS; you attempted a DDOS by flooding the forums. A more serious and effective DDOS would be in the form of a TCP flood or HTTP flood, of course, but flooding the forums is still a DDOS, though a weak and pathetic one. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Cheunger BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:36:00 - [29] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Deaken Fiss do you believe in what you are writing here? Please explain how making up lies about CCP and submitting them to dozens of news sites and magazines is not an attempt to defame the company. Please explain why all changes are made after BoD has exploited things to the fullest? Titan, POS bowling, etc. We all know FIX would have fallen on their asses if big brother BoD wasn't there with their Titans.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:39:00 - [30] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/06/2007 15:37:51 Originally by: Cheunger Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Deaken Fiss do you believe in what you are writing here? Please explain how making up lies about CCP and submitting them to dozens of news sites and magazines is not an attempt to defame the company. Please explain why all changes are made after BoD has exploited things to the fullest? Titan, POS bowling, etc. We all know FIX would have fallen on their asses if big brother BoD wasn't there with their Titans. Are you that delusional? Lets take POS bowling. You know who invented it? IAC. You know who copied IAC? BoB. You know who was petitioned and told to never do it again or get banned? BoB. You know who then did it even when BoB was told not to? Evil Thug, of AAA. He stole BoB carriers this way. Then, and only then, BoB resumed doing it. If you don't like POS bowling, blame Evil Thug, or blame CCP. Don't blame BoB, who didn't start it and didn't get it declared legal either. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!

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