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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher It's amazing, I wonder how long it took him to come up with that. My sides are splitting with merriment.
No really they are.
lol?
dbp
i admit it's almost as stupid as having your nick visible three times each post
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:40:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: DB Preacher It's amazing, I wonder how long it took him to come up with that. My sides are splitting with merriment.
No really they are.
lol?
dbp
i admit it's almost as stupid as having your nick visible three times each post
I'm glad to see it's having the desired effect
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:50:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Lee Bian Edited by: Lee Bian on 12/06/2007 08:22:55
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky yeb it sure is stupid to assume stuff with circumstancial evidence supported with a singular incident,
so dianabolic admitting msn contact with developers does not scream parity and/or conflict of interest to you or will you just ignore that part
Quote: im smiling inside knowing that you as a member of goonswarm appreciates how stupid it indeed is.
much like your posting
so circumstancial evidence, conflict of interest and one incident of a cheating dev creates an environment of absolote guilt?
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:50:00 -
[184]
Originally by: DB Preacher I'm glad to see it's having the desired effect
dbp
maybe you could add an embedded sound file repeating "dbp db PREACHER" with tribal drums to your posts
or wait did you just say adding dbp to your posts is trolling
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Anglo
Minmatar Astral Mexicans
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:50:00 -
[185]
yet another thread where goonswarms can flame and act as the kids they are... i think i can speak on the behalf of the entire eve comunity when i say GROW UP. get ower it and start something new and stop flaming the forums cause no one cares about you! if your this mad leave the game. ddos atacks etc are iligal and u are criminals. end of convo!
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:04:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky so circumstancial evidence, conflict of interest and one incident of a cheating dev creates an environment of absolote guilt?
no, but it doesn't create a fair game environment either, does it?
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End Solution
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:05:00 -
[187]
Edited by: End Solution on 12/06/2007 09:04:51 bahhh all keep saying that bob cheets etc.. im tired of it... act on it u muppets.. :) why not all join 1 alliance and go to war against bob and the so called pets.... all of u who dont like bob and the socalled pets... make 1 mother.... big pvp alliance and challenge the bob train.. something wich is NOT GS as they are nothing but scum wich people feel are nothing but flamers.
im sure bob would like the challenge. seriously.
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:10:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Sir Lolle
YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO GOONSWARM AND GOONFLEET THE CORPORATION
Oh i see what you did there, with your name and all. Hilarious. |
Cadela Fria
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:15:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Cadela Fria on 12/06/2007 09:14:36
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky so circumstancial evidence, conflict of interest and one incident of a cheating dev creates an environment of absolote guilt?
no, but it doesn't create a fair game environment either, does it?
Yes it does, and frankly I'm surprised you can look yourself in the mirror with falling over in laughter at how ridicoulas you are about this.
It's been ..HOW long since the isolated T20 incident? And you have all been proven wrong, HOW many times now? And you made a fool of yourself, HOW many times now?...
You're a joke, face it
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:28:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky so circumstancial evidence, conflict of interest and one incident of a cheating dev creates an environment of absolote guilt?
no, but it doesn't create a fair game environment either, does it?
By that do you mean that it creates an unfair game environment? Do you have any real evidence that supports that, or are you just assuming?
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Anglo yet another thread where goonswarms can flame and act as the kids they are... i think i can speak on the behalf of the entire eve comunity when i say GROW UP. get ower it and start something new and stop flaming the forums cause no one cares about you! if your this mad leave the game. ddos atacks etc are iligal and u are criminals. end of convo!
I would like to address one part of this post.
At no time have we ever Ddos'ed the eve forums, the eve game itself, or anybody named eve.
In addition we have never ddos'ed any enemies
in game out out of game to include their
Ts servers nor their web pages.
I fear that many people do
not even understand what
a DDos attack is and
if that is the case
I would be happy
to instruct you
on what one is
so you do not
repeat this
mistake.
dbp
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Anglo
Minmatar Astral Mexicans
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:36:00 -
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Edited by: Anglo on 12/06/2007 10:36:19 A "denial-of-service" attack is characterized by an explicit attempt by attackers to prevent legitimate users of a service from using that service. Examples include:
flooding a network, thereby preventing legitimate network traffic; disrupting a server by sending more requests than it can possibly handle, thereby preventing access to a service; preventing a particular individual from accessing a service; disrupting service to a specific system or person. Attacks can be directed at any network device, including attacks on routing devices and Web, electronic mail, or Domain Name System servers.
A DoS attack can be perpetrated in a number of ways. There are three basic types of attack:
consumption of computational resources, such as bandwidth, disk space, or CPU time; disruption of configuration information, such as routing information; disruption of physical network components. A DoS attack may include execution of malware intended to:
max out the CPU's usage, preventing any work from occurring; trigger errors in the microcode of the machine; trigger errors in the sequencing of instructions, so as to force the computer into an unstable state or lock-up; exploits errors in the operating system to cause resource starvation and/or thrashing, i.e. to use up all available facilities so no real work can be accomplished; crash the operating system itself.
by sapamming the forums in such extend that it was basicly ****** isent that considered dos ? as in the above text says. if no one can post due to that you kept posting hmmm!!!!
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:42:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Anglo
by sapamming the forums in such extend that it was basicly ****** isent that considered dos ? as in the above text says. if no one can post due to that you kept posting hmmm!!!!
Hahaha what? I take it network security is not one of your strong points.
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Anglo
Minmatar Astral Mexicans
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:43:00 -
[194]
it is not. your correct. explain it then! and tell what u did and why it was ok to do!
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Anglo it is not. your correct. explain it then! and tell what u did and why it was ok to do!
A denial of service attack is an attack whos purpose is to deny the service being granted to users. We simply posted and we didn't spam. Posting doesn't overwealm the servers as you can't physically post quick enough for that to happen. GS has a lot of active members and we love to post on forums. How that constutites a DoS attack is really beyond me.
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:49:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky so circumstancial evidence, conflict of interest and one incident of a cheating dev creates an environment of absolote guilt?
no, but it doesn't create a fair game environment either, does it?
By that do you mean that it creates an unfair game environment? Do you have any real evidence that supports that, or are you just assuming?
why yes i am saying that dianabolic having developers on his msn creates an unfair game environment because i do not have developers on my msn
its actually pretty simple
also "conflict of interest" is a bad thing not good like you seem to think
i mean i would think you'd know that
but it seems you don't
enter
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:58:00 -
[197]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 12/06/2007 10:56:49
Originally by: Lee Bian why yes i am saying that dianabolic having developers on his msn creates an unfair game environment because i do not have developers on my msn
its actually pretty simple
also "conflict of interest" is a bad thing not good like you seem to think
i mean i would think you'd know that
but it seems you don't
enter
"Keep on saying it, it will come true"
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DarkFenix
Caldari Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:02:00 -
[198]
GS are showing exactly why the opening statements in the interview were justified right here in this thread. I'm sure there's a little post on GS's forums with a selective quote of it and an instruction to come here and flame away. The more of you post here, the more you drag what's left of your reputation through the mud. Why can't you just focus on the actualy content of the interview, instead of picking up on a couple of things you don't like and dropping a dramabomb over it.
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Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:04:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky so circumstancial evidence, conflict of interest and one incident of a cheating dev creates an environment of absolote guilt?
no, but it doesn't create a fair game environment either, does it?
By that do you mean that it creates an unfair game environment? Do you have any real evidence that supports that, or are you just assuming?
why yes i am saying that dianabolic having developers on his msn creates an unfair game environment because i do not have developers on my msn
its actually pretty simple
also "conflict of interest" is a bad thing not good like you seem to think
i mean i would think you'd know that
but it seems you don't
enter
Actually I dont see it as a conflict of interest I see it as a good avenue for the ccp devs to understand the community, well and these are people, developing friends is a thing that I would consider to be a part of simply existing.
Personally im pretty sure that if a msn contact friend behaves in a manner that the dev does not like then the delete and block procedure goes into action. I have decided to trust the devs a long time ago, one person in a 100+ does not change that.
If my best friend would tomorow be hired by CCP then he would be on my msn list, just like one of my friends at the tax office is on my msn list, would I violate the trust of friendship by trying to take advantage of that? No I wouldnt and it is my philosophy that there are very few people that actually would try to do that and even fewer that would succeed.
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S34ghz
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:15:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Alias11 Do you know a) what a ddos is, and b) what would have actually happened to eve if we actually performed one?
There are many forms of DDOS; you attempted a DDOS by flooding the forums.
A more serious and effective DDOS would be in the form of a TCP flood or HTTP flood, of course, but flooding the forums is still a DDOS, though a weak and pathetic one.
you have absolutely no idea what that first "d" means, do you?
Originally by: wikipedia if an attacker uses a thousand zombie systems to simultaneously launch smurf attacks against a remote host, this would be classified as a DDoS attack.
Zombies? simultaneously? I think DS is right
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:18:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Actually I dont see it as a conflict of interest I see it as a good avenue for the ccp devs to understand the community, well and these are people, developing friends is a thing that I would consider to be a part of simply existing.
Personally im pretty sure that if a msn contact friend behaves in a manner that the dev does not like then the delete and block procedure goes into action. I have decided to trust the devs a long time ago, one person in a 100+ does not change that.
If my best friend would tomorow be hired by CCP then he would be on my msn list, just like one of my friends at the tax office is on my msn list, would I violate the trust of friendship by trying to take advantage of that? No I wouldnt and it is my philosophy that there are very few people that actually would try to do that and even fewer that would succeed.
since we're doing comparisons that have no bearing it's more like me being a professional football player and having a friend becoming a referee and then him judging my games while i suck his***** for being fair
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:19:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Lee Bian since we're doing comparisons that have no bearing it's more like me being a professional football player and having a friend becoming a referee and then him judging my games while i suck his***** for being fair
also i would like a sun tzu quote in this could someone fix it thanks
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:22:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Lee Bian since we're doing comparisons that have no bearing it's more like me being a professional football player and having a friend becoming a referee and then him judging my games while i suck his***** for being fair
Or more precisely, it's like someone being a professional football player and having a friend who becomes a referee and then both of them discuss stuff that friends discuss while someone on the opposing team starts calling both of them rather bad names for talking with each other at all.
Just to get it right there, dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:26:00 -
[204]
Originally by: DB Preacher Or more precisely, it's like someone being a professional football player and having a friend who becomes a referee and then both of them discuss stuff that friends discuss while someone on the opposing team starts calling both of them rather bad names for talking with each other at all.
Just to get it right there, dbp
yea but they are also judging (while playing) the game in between the friendly talks and screaming matches
sun tzu
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:28:00 -
[205]
Originally by: DarkFenix GS are showing exactly why the opening statements in the interview were justified right here in this thread. I'm sure there's a little post on GS's forums with a selective quote of it and an instruction to come here and flame away. The more of you post here, the more you drag what's left of your reputation through the mud. Why can't you just focus on the actualy content of the interview, instead of picking up on a couple of things you don't like and dropping a dramabomb over it.
Oh no our reputation!
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Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:28:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Actually I dont see it as a conflict of interest I see it as a good avenue for the ccp devs to understand the community, well and these are people, developing friends is a thing that I would consider to be a part of simply existing.
Personally im pretty sure that if a msn contact friend behaves in a manner that the dev does not like then the delete and block procedure goes into action. I have decided to trust the devs a long time ago, one person in a 100+ does not change that.
If my best friend would tomorow be hired by CCP then he would be on my msn list, just like one of my friends at the tax office is on my msn list, would I violate the trust of friendship by trying to take advantage of that? No I wouldnt and it is my philosophy that there are very few people that actually would try to do that and even fewer that would succeed.
since we're doing comparisons that have no bearing it's more like me being a professional football player and having a friend becoming a referee and then him judging my games while i suck his***** for being fair
Wouldnt the Friend Judge excuse himself from participating in a match where a good friend is playing? Or should he stop being a judge all together? Should he not have any friends that share his love of football?
And if GM's are the judges, hasnt Arkanon said that there are rules in place that involve GM's not making rulings in the case of their friends or players belonging to their ingame entities?
And besides, is it possible to perform any kind of sucking through msn?
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Wouldnt the Friend Judge excuse himself from participating in a match where a good friend is playing? Or should he stop being a judge all together? Should he not have any friends that share his love of football?
And if GM's are the judges, hasnt Arkanon said that there are rules in place that involve GM's not making rulings in the case of their friends or players belonging to their ingame entities?
i would like to be able to check this in order to be certain no foul play (ie no developer/gm on dianabolics msn makes any calls involving him) is going on. i do not see how i can be blamed for not completely trusting a company whose CMO basically said "**** off you whiny goonies"
i would love to feel i could trust them, i really would
Quote: And besides, is it possible to perform any kind of sucking through msn?
i guess the same way you're sucking on these forums (you walked into that one)
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Kiyano
Caldari Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:51:00 -
[208]
Originally by: DarkFenix GS are showing exactly why the opening statements in the interview were justified right here in this thread. I'm sure there's a little post on GS's forums with a selective quote of it and an instruction to come here and flame away. The more of you post here, the more you drag what's left of your reputation through the mud. Why can't you just focus on the actualy content of the interview, instead of picking up on a couple of things you don't like and dropping a dramabomb over it.
You're implying they have a reputation left to be made worse.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:54:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Kiyano
Originally by: DarkFenix GS are showing exactly why the opening statements in the interview were justified right here in this thread. I'm sure there's a little post on GS's forums with a selective quote of it and an instruction to come here and flame away. The more of you post here, the more you drag what's left of your reputation through the mud. Why can't you just focus on the actualy content of the interview, instead of picking up on a couple of things you don't like and dropping a dramabomb over it.
You're implying they have a reputation left to be made worse.
Or that we ever gave half a crap about reputations.
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Tom Gunn
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:55:00 -
[210]
As part of the coalition it pains me coming here to see Goons and others blaming their problems fighting BoB because of dev haks.
I've fought good bob pilots/pets pets and bad pilots/pets (and sometimes some really bad pilots), when I won CCP didn't help me, when I lost CCP didn't help them.
Thinking that this entire game is founded around some conspiracy by the owners to make one group of players win is just ********.
As for GM 'friends' in any MMO, developers will have a high end guild or two that they give invites to beta's, discuss play balance with etc... so BoB are on that list and goons aren't, does that honestly surprise anyone the way some (and i realise its the few), act on these forums ?
Sadly, the test server isn't the answer to everything. Its a good base, but can't possibly simulate the economy or many more of the differences that the fully populated server entails.
Ask yourself this, if you were CCP and had to put up with all these rumourmongering and accusations each day, would you want to be friends with yourself either?
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