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Cpt Archon
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Posted - 2007.06.11 23:49:00 -
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I know there are many Topics about this, but no Topic helped me answering my question.
In my Raven PvP Fitting I use this:
[High]
6x Cruise Missile Launcher
2x 125mm Railguns
I dont know anything about Armor Tanking but what do you think of this?
[Low]
1x Large Armor Repairer
1x Basic Reactiv Plating (Explo Res.)
1x 800mm Reinforced Sttel Plating
1x Balistic Controll System
And what Warefare Units should I fit in Med?
I thought about a Target Disruptor, Warp Disruptor and Stasis Webifire.
P.S. This PvP Fitting should be for a group of 4-6 Player, no solo fit.
Any way to passiv tank would be greate ^^
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Redglare's Demise
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.06.11 23:58:00 -
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lol ?
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HelloDevette
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:13:00 -
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get rid of the large rep... put a big plate down there(atleast 1) and get rid of the rails and use atleast 1 NOS. Put some damps and sensor booster in meds.
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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:14:00 -
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There is only one reason to armor tank a Raven, hint, it goes in the mids. Also, your not doing it right.
As for the tank. LAR, EANM/EANM 1600MM plate and a BCU, or another plate. Should work.
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LeMoose
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:15:00 -
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damps+ sebos
+ armor tank lows
maybe bcu or two for damage works well
tho i like a capinjected shieldtank with crystals ALOT better
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Cpt Archon
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:15:00 -
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why no repairer?
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ZenTex
Trade and Research Technologies
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:17:00 -
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Played around with armour small gang raven myself. It's probably sucky since I'm an armour noob.
Highs:
6 cruises
1 heavy NOS
MED:
1xCap booster
1xWeb
1xpainter
1xAB 
1x warp disruptor
1x targeting scrambler
Lows:
1x1600mm plate
1xlarge rep
1 explosive hardener
1 kinetic hardener.
1x BCU
I have 1 highslot left and 700PG/114 CPU left. Could fit a med nos or med rail. Could also drop the AB and use aq 2nd webber/targeting scrambler and fit something more serious in the last highslot with the freed PG (dual 250 L rail?). Depends on the gang.
There's little a sledgehammer can't fix.
If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer.
If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
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Danirus
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:19:00 -
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High
6x Cruise Launcher II
1x Drone Link Augmentor I
Medium
2x Medium Cap Booster
3x Sensor Booster II
1x Warp Disruptor II
Low
1x Damage Control System II
2x Large 'Accomodation' Armour Repair
2x Ballistic Control Unit II
Rigs
hydraulic bay thrusters I
warhead calefaction catalyst I
targeting system subcontroller I
Drones
4x Medium Sensor Dampeners
3x meduim target painters
In large fleets this setup locks onto anything in a few seconds including inties (4.5 secs approx)
Changing 1 ballistic control for a reactor control II gives me enough power to fit a heavy NOS (still playing around with this setup to get it right, I may change the rigs for more armour resists)
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Cpt Archon
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:37:00 -
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I now would use this:
[High]
6x Cruise Missile Launcher
2x 125mm Railguns (for Frigates)
[Med]
1x Warp Disruptor
3x Sensor Booster
2x Med. Cap. Booster
[Low]
2x Large Armor Repairer
1x Reactor Controll Unit
1x Damage Controll
1x Balistic Controll System
[Rig]
1x Hydraulic Bay Thrusters
1x Warhead Calefaction Catalyst
1x Targeting System Subcontroller
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ZenTex
Trade and Research Technologies
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:48:00 -
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Why waste 2 highs on 125mm's? Not like you're gonna hit them without webber, you're in a gang, best have a specialized ship take care of frigs and if you really want to help with frigs, paint/web them.
Like I said, I'm an armour noob, but 2 LAR without any armour resists? If you drop 1 LAR I bet you could drop the RCU aswell.
There's little a sledgehammer can't fix.
If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer.
If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
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Kua Immortal
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.06.12 00:51:00 -
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Isn't the only reason for armor tanking a raven so that you can fit 3 RSDs?
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alexreborn
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Posted - 2007.06.12 03:53:00 -
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i think thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
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Privious
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Posted - 2007.06.12 05:16:00 -
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why would you ever armor tank a Raven?... Shield tank is much better:S
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tarin adur
Gallente
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.06.12 05:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Privious
why would you ever armor tank a Raven?... Shield tank is much better:S
This is what happens when carebears decide to PVP,damn rich people.....
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Aries Acheron
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.12 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Aries Acheron on 12/06/2007 05:33:20
People armor tank ravens all the time. Those midslots become mean EW mods, for Sensor damps. It's not like a Raven's shield tank when fit for PVP (minimum 2 slots taken up by PVP gear) is particularly strong either.
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Karma Coma
The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2007.06.12 06:28:00 -
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Sorry if I offend anyone but, to be honest, you caldari pilots have lived so long without mid-slots that you don't know what to do with them  
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:08:00 -
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wow some of the most funniest pvp setups ive seen.
CMII
nos
1 SB
1 MWD
4 RSD
3 BCUII
1 DC
1 1600mm Plate
I dont have a high grad, so no shield tank for me, iam a friend of max damage and less tank. When iam bored flying a ceptor i normaly fly a raven like this, or with torps t2, depends on the enemie.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:26:00 -
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6x launcher 1x cloak
3x RSD 2x sensorbooster 1x whatever (painter or so)
2x BCU, 1600 plate, med repper, EANM
burn eden love xD
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2007.06.12 07:31:00 -
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Been a while since I have flown a Raven but there is no reason why an armour tank backed up by EW won't work, However it won't be a great tank and it wont have that much gank.
Something like this, assuming you have a tackler:
Hi 6 arbalest cruise. 2 spare slots for what ever you can fit on spare PG (I would have around 250 PG left so a small and medium nos would be ok, but my fitting skills are reasonably good, a newer player might struggle)
Mids - Large injector. Web. 4 slots for EW/Sensor booster. Damps would work pretty well.
Low. Large repper (preferably t2), 1600 rolled tungsten, explosive and kinetic active hardeners, best dcu you can afford.
Rigs. Thermal resistance rig. 2 rigs to up missile damage (no idea what these are called).
I would have around 200-250 PG left so a small and medium nos would be ok in the 2 remaining hislots, but my fitting skills are reasonably good, a newer player might struggle.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:58:00 -
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Luke, with a raven you always want to be at range since even with damps on up-close they will eventually lock you and get through your paperthin tank. Trick is to trap them in a bubble and hold them down from a distance.
Kind of like what BE do on a daily base.
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Valandril
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Karma Coma
Sorry if I offend anyone but, to be honest, you caldari pilots have lived so long without mid-slots that you don't know what to do with them
qft
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Marcus Alkhaar
Conisor Excavations Syndicate
Antagonistic Assembly
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:24:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Alkhaar on 12/06/2007 09:24:04
Edit for now!
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2007.06.12 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Luke, with a raven you always want to be at range since even with damps on up-close they will eventually lock you and get through your paperthin tank. Trick is to trap them in a bubble and hold them down from a distance.
Kind of like what BE do on a daily base.
True - I agree that if you have the bubble and the right people with you then the web and nos are redundant.
However for a more general pvp fit, rather than out and out Burn Eden style piracy, then I would want a little insurance if someone did get in close.
A nos or two in the spare highs, plus one mid given over to a webber gives some protecting vs tacklers if things go wrong. Maybe 1 medium nos and painter would be a better fit.
So:
6 cruise med nos, painter
injector, web, sensor booster, 3 dampners
lar2, 1600, 2 active hardeners, dcu
with 1 tank and 2 bcu type rigs that gives fair ranged firepower against a range of targets, enough dampage to be a significant pain in the backside and a useable - if thin armour tank.
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alexreborn
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aries Acheron
Edited by: Aries Acheron on 12/06/2007 05:33:20
People armor tank ravens all the time. Those midslots become mean EW mods, for Sensor damps. It's not like a Raven's shield tank when fit for PVP (minimum 2 slots taken up by PVP gear) is particularly strong either.
Lol sensor damps on a raven. You might as well go with a sensor dampening domi and stick to race specific EW.
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Ghan Tylous
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: alexreborn
i think thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
Until you meet Burn Eden somewhere in 0.0/low-sec.
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Lou Margoulin
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Posted - 2007.06.12 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: alexreborn
Originally by: Aries Acheron
Edited by: Aries Acheron on 12/06/2007 05:33:20
People armor tank ravens all the time. Those midslots become mean EW mods, for Sensor damps. It's not like a Raven's shield tank when fit for PVP (minimum 2 slots taken up by PVP gear) is particularly strong either.
Lol sensor damps on a raven. You might as well go with a sensor dampening domi and stick to race specific EW.
you noob ... Raven is as good as a domi when using RSD ... or you only use painter on a typhoon ?
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alexreborn
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:20:00 -
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LOL
come on Im a noob? Never though Id see plates on a raven. Though I could see the surprise in gang warfare.
"Guys primary the raven"
alright
"oh man his shields are almost down, hes going to melt!!!!"
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"WTF hes armor tanking"
silence on comms...
"HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA WATCH HIM MELT FASTER!!!!"
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Kather
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: alexreborn
LOL
come on Im a noob? Never though Id see plates on a raven. Though I could see the surprise in gang warfare.
"Guys primary the raven"
alright
"oh man his shields are almost down, hes going to melt!!!!"
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....
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"WTF hes armor tanking"
silence on comms...
"HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA WATCH HIM MELT FASTER!!!!"
the idea of a armor tanked raven is to not get shot (hence the RSDs)
this has already been mentioned in the thread
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alexreborn
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:48:00 -
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Not get shot?
Sensor damps are good for very very small engagements. Maybe a 1 on 1, it will work. Then Id agree with you, assuming you can stay out of range, but if you cant, once you get locked you will melt to anything.
For larger engagements sensor damps are useless. Sure you can sensor damp one guy down to 7km range ( 1 bs that is) But then the other 4 primary you. Then you just melt because you have zero tank, and do bad DPS to start with.
I really think your better of sticking with the standard PVP setup, shield tank mids, damage mods lows, and cruise/torps high. Fun to try for 1 on 1 for some belt piracy. NOt a practicaly setup for anything else.
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Kather
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.12 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: alexreborn
Not get shot?
Sensor damps are good for very very small engagements. Maybe a 1 on 1, it will work. Then Id agree with you, assuming you can stay out of range, but if you cant, once you get locked you will melt to anything.
For larger engagements sensor damps are useless. Sure you can sensor damp one guy down to 7km range ( 1 bs that is) But then the other 4 primary you. Then you just melt because you have zero tank, and do bad DPS to start with.
then use the raven for small scale engagements/gate camps.
use a rokh for fleet stuff.
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