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Kel'virak Tarkin Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:20:00 - [1] As the title says, my Drake got popped by gate campers today and need a new ship, was thinking Myrm because it is good for PvP, but can I also make money with it?
Badhands Gallente Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:25:00 - [2] The myrmidon is the worst battlecruiser by far. Aside from having tanking problems, the firepower, even with t2 drones, leaves much to be desired. Definitely stick to drakes. Originally by: Player Guide Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses.
Kel'virak Tarkin Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:27:00 - [3] Originally by: Badhands The myrmidon is the worst battlecruiser by far. Aside from having tanking problems, the firepower, even with t2 drones, leaves much to be desired. Definitely stick to drakes. You sir are an idiot. Anyone out there that will give a serious answer?
Badhands Gallente Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:30:00 - [4] You sir, are a Goon. The myrmidon is an excellent ratter. Fit the drones of your choice. I like berserkers because they're fast, but you can pick rat specific drones if you want. The fitting I like to use for ratting is this: 6x 200mm rail II w/antimatter or spike 10mn mwd (if antimatter) or afterburner (if spike) 4x large shield extenders 2x shield power relay 4x pds Originally by: Player Guide Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses.
Dalanoria The Committee of Project Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:32:00 - [5] Its a great ratting ship...But you were using a drake, do you have the drone skills/gunnery to use a myrm ? With good drone skills and hybrid skills you can pop any rat spawn...Just make sure you put 4 cpr II's or best named in the mids....
Elite Marksman	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:34:00 - [6] Gonna be a little hard to put cpr, tech 2 or named, in the mids...
Degorath	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:36:00 - [7] Edited by: Degorath on 18/06/2007 02:35:27 Originally by: Badhands You sir, are a Goon. The myrmidon is an excellent ratter. Fit the drones of your choice. I like berserkers because they're fast, but you can pick rat specific drones if you want. The fitting I like to use for ratting is this: 6x 200mm rail II w/antimatter or spike 10mn mwd (if antimatter) or afterburner (if spike) 4x large shield extenders 2x shield power relay 4x pds Yes, I am a Goon. Also thanks for the real answer. DOH posted on alt
Dalanoria The Committee of Project Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:38:00 - [8] Originally by: Badhands You sir, are a Goon. The myrmidon is an excellent ratter. Fit the drones of your choice. I like berserkers because they're fast, but you can pick rat specific drones if you want. The fitting I like to use for ratting is this: 6x 200mm rail II w/antimatter or spike 10mn mwd (if antimatter) or afterburner (if spike) 4x large shield extenders 2x shield power relay 4x pds lmao...sorry, but thats funny... Its a armor tanker, hence the ship bonus...
Articnir	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:40:00 - [9] Edited by: Articnir on 18/06/2007 02:41:18 Edited by: Articnir on 18/06/2007 02:40:05 Originally by: Dalanoria Originally by: Badhands You sir, are a Goon. The myrmidon is an excellent ratter. Fit the drones of your choice. I like berserkers because they're fast, but you can pick rat specific drones if you want. The fitting I like to use for ratting is this: 6x 200mm rail II w/antimatter or spike 10mn mwd (if antimatter) or afterburner (if spike) 4x large shield extenders 2x shield power relay 4x pds lmao...sorry, but thats funny... Its a armor tanker, hence the ship bonus... Plug it into Quick-fix Also switch to smaller/tech 1 guns and replace 3 of the PDS with SPR's And with 3 recharge rigs you get like 400+ shield/sec
Badhands Gallente Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:46:00 - [10] There are a hundred ways to passive tank a myrm. You can swap mods in and out, and the fact remains that it is a generally powerful ship, but I disagree with downsizing the guns. The reason I disagree, without putting in a ton of numbers and calculations, is because the tank I described is enough, and more dps means more isk/hour. Originally by: Player Guide Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses.
Badhands Gallente Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Dalanoria lmao...sorry, but thats funny... Its a armor tanker, hence the ship bonus... I love ignorant responses like this. Originally by: Player Guide Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses.
Corwain Gallente Zero Team	Posted - 2007.06.18 03:25:00 - [12] Edited by: Corwain on 18/06/2007 03:25:49 This Myrm setup is for ratting Guiristas. Can handle all spawns. 4x Med blasters w/ Antimatter, whatever you can fit (I use mostly neutrons, Small nos, Medium nos MWD, 4x Cap rechargers, at least f10b Nominals 2x MAR II, 2x Kin Hardeners, 2x Cap Relays 5x Wasp Is EDIT: Tactic is MWD to the BS of your choice, deactivate MWD at 10km, start nossing and shooting, run one armor repper or 1 depending on what you need, drop drones and have em attack. Nice thing is you won't be sitting near the warp in point usually so you're unlikely to be caught except by speedy dictors or intys and you always have your drones in scoop range.
Snikkt Time Cube Syndicate Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.06.18 03:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Badhands Originally by: Dalanoria lmao...sorry, but thats funny... Its a armor tanker, hence the ship bonus... I love ignorant responses like this. That's ok, I love god-awful passive tanks. ------------------- My opinions (ie, all of my posting here) are not my corporations. Nor should it be taken as such.
Badhands Gallente The Next Step	Posted - 2007.06.18 05:35:00 - [14] Tsk tsk... such closed mindedness. It works splendidly for ratting. I wouldn't pvp in it, but that's not what he asked for. Originally by: Player Guide Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses.
Lore Isander Caldari Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.18 05:48:00 - [15] Real men rat with pvp fits and omni tanks: 4x E50 Med Nos 2x Small Dim Nos/Light Neutron Blaster II/150mm Railgun II 1x MWD II 1x Disruptor II 2x Web II 1x Medium Elec Cap Booster 2x Med Armor Rep II 1x Kin Hard II 1x Therm Hard II 1x Exp Hard II 1x Damage Control II 2x Rep Amount Rig 1x Rep Duration Rig 5x Ogre II ---
Lore Isander Caldari Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.18 05:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Badhands Originally by: Dalanoria lmao...sorry, but thats funny... Its a armor tanker, hence the ship bonus... I love ignorant responses like this. Who doesnt ---
Badhands Gallente The Next Step	Posted - 2007.06.18 05:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Lore Isander Real men rat with pvp fits and omni tanks: 4x E50 Med Nos 2x Small Dim Nos/Light Neutron Blaster II/150mm Railgun II 1x MWD II 1x Disruptor II 2x Web II 1x Medium Elec Cap Booster 2x Med Armor Rep II 1x Kin Hard II 1x Therm Hard II 1x Exp Hard II 1x Damage Control II 2x Rep Amount Rig 1x Rep Duration Rig 5x Ogre II My pvp fitting is very similar, except for N-Type hardeners, a plate instead of a damage control, and a sensor booster instead of dual webbing. Originally by: Player Guide Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses.
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.06.18 05:55:00 - [18] Drone ships are usually pretty nice for ratting. Problem is, the myrmidon can only fit one load of heavy drones. That just cant cut it if the NPCs start getting trigger happy, esp. with only t1 drones, which Im sure you have. Do the dominix, its ALOT easier on newer players to use. Even with t1 drones. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Siakel	Posted - 2007.06.18 07:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Drone ships are usually pretty nice for ratting. Problem is, the myrmidon can only fit one load of heavy drones. That just cant cut it if the NPCs start getting trigger happy, esp. with only t1 drones, which Im sure you have. Do the dominix, its ALOT easier on newer players to use. Even with t1 drones. You're doing something wrong if you lose drones when belt ratting. The only drones I've ever lost when belt ratting were due to my own mistakes, namely letting 'em out too early.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:53:00 - [20] Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 18/06/2007 08:52:12 This is more of a "lol" setup tbh 6 heavy neutron II 2 LSE II 10mn mwd, 2 ballistic deflection field ( if ratting guristas ) 3 MFS II, 2 PDS II, 1 co-processor 3 extender rigs 5 wasp II Edit:It does around 900 dps
Marcus Alkhaar Conisor Excavations Syndicate Antagonistic Assembly	Posted - 2007.06.18 09:22:00 - [21] When you're out ratting, you REALLY want to make the absolute maximum amount of isk on your rats... thats why you want to fit.. 3x Salvager I 1x tractor beam 2x Med nos (oh ya, they work on rats to some extend) 1x 10mn mwd II 4x cap recharger II 2x medium armor rep 2x hardeners for primary damage type 2x hardeners for secondary damage type 5x heavies of choice. I use a similar setup on my dominix, works like a charm. Originally by: Tanksmann just so you you know putting "Dev" or "Tux" in the topic probably lessens the dev attention your topic receives
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.18 11:10:00 - [22] Originally by: Dalanoria Its a armor tanker, hence the ship bonus... closed minded ftl the myrmidon makes a very nice passive shield tanker. just because something has a bonus to something doesn't mean it can't be used in other ways. u probably think the eos shouldn't passive shield tank for pve either. DE
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.06.18 11:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar When you're out ratting, you REALLY want to make the absolute maximum amount of isk on your rats... thats why you want to fit.. 3x Salvager I 1x tractor beam 2x Med nos (oh ya, they work on rats to some extend) 1x 10mn mwd II 4x cap recharger II 2x medium armor rep 2x hardeners for primary damage type 2x hardeners for secondary damage type 5x heavies of choice. I use a similar setup on my dominix, works like a charm. Alts are for salvaging =p
Okapir	Posted - 2007.06.18 11:38:00 - [24] Have to go with DarkElf on this, my Myrs got a very nice passive shield tank, ummh! until perhaps tomorows patch has swung ye-olde nerf bat :/ wtf Okapir
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.06.18 11:39:00 - [25] Originally by: Okapir Have to go with DarkElf on this, my Myrs got a very nice passive shield tank, ummh! until perhaps tomorows patch has swung ye-olde nerf bat :/ wtf Okapir 12%....the passive tank is still Imbah tbh
RogerWilco Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:03:00 - [26] passive shield tank is all good, im just to lazy to switch between pvp and npc fit, and im not shield tankin no pvp myrm.. but both are viable..
TimMc Phoenix Inc	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:16:00 - [27] Edited by: TimMc on 18/06/2007 12:23:05 Edited by: TimMc on 18/06/2007 12:15:47 Have to agree Myrmidon makes a mean passive tank, although I use a different loadout. 1x Duel 150mm Railgun (aggro) 1x Tractor 3x Salvager I 1x Drone Link Augmentation 1x Invulnerability Field II 4x Large Shield Extender II 5x SPR II 1x PDU II 3x Core Defence Field Purger I Edit: 5x Ogers IIs if you can
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:28:00 - [28] Thats what I used for hunting Guristas: 3x Nosfs, 3x Ion Blasters 1x AB II, 1x Web, 3x Cap Recharger II 1x Med Rep II, 1x 800 plate, 4x Hardeners 5x Heavy drones. Holds even 3x BS spawns without any problem even without nosfs active. ---
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:40:00 - [29] Edited by: Akita T on 18/06/2007 12:41:05 Originally by: LMAAAOOOO 12%....the passive tank is still Imbah tbh +12% recharge TIME, which is merely an aproximate -10.7% recharge rate. Still (very cheaply) passive shield tanks better as it (T2) active armor tanks (unless you go for full faction fit, in which case it's better to armor-tank it). P.S. Obviously, when ratting, you want at least a tractor beam and a salvager too (maybe a pair of each), and a couple of NOS to make downing (especially large) rats slightly faster. _ New char creation guide \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Redora Gallente Minmatar Ship Construction Services	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:06:00 - [30] I have 0.0 ratted in a Myrmidon, and found that a 1600mm plate with 1x MAR worked fine. I generally fit Nos/TB/Salvage in highs, AB, Webbies (for the damn Interceptor NPC's), and Cap rechargers in mids, with Mar, 3x Hardener (2x Main Damage type, 1x Secondary), EANM, And 1600mm RT Plate in lows. I tried dual rep without the plate, and it's an easier fit, but I ratted against guristas, and that 1600mm RT provides a VERY nice buffer for when I'm jammed and the drones are all split off into their own little cliques, each shooting their own thing (as drones are apt to do ). --- Redora Quote: # Logging off immediately after jumping into a warp disruptor bubble no longer grants invulnerability, much to the delight of gate campers everywhere.

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