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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.22 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/06/2007 07:09:15
Originally by: murder one Explain to me what you mean by using mid slots for injectors and bringing a gang. so I don't misuderstand you and think you're completely stupid.
I believe he meant you should use cap boosters and bring a gang, like every other not stupid bs pilot around.
If that's the case, then I believe he's a f#cking idiot for assuming that I'd do otherwise.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.06.22 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: n0thing
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad he can do one of two things.
Adapt or cry... I wonder what one he is doing...
Murder One train up a decent ship race. Amarr. laugh as much as you want. My Amarr ship took down a Gallante ship in the end without sweating.
Telling to train new race is not an option. Some of us choose to max out one race, thus no crosstraining.
Specialization > All-arounder in pure 1v1 and perfect conditions.
I am pure amarr specced. Amar tank and all to do with it.. and my lasers love em.
shame really I have given up on missions. each day that goes by only increases the value of my mission ship and starts to make me wonder why I am flying it.
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n0thing
omen. D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.22 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/06/2007 06:29:44 Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/06/2007 06:21:45
Originally by: n0thing I tryed both, Megat with Modal Ions and Hyperion with Modal Ions. Im not yet that good to use large blasters in pvp, but speaking for PvE.....the tracking bonus really makes a huuuge difference when enaging even BS sized targets. 1 gun hardpoint isnt worth the Megat`s tracking bonus.
There are actually modules called tracking computers out there. The Hype has one more medslot than the mega, wouldn't be too stupid to fit one there. 
Megat has 4 meds, thus cant fit Sensor Booster to lock anything besides slow BC`s. Thus Hyperion got its 5th med slot certainly not for tracking mods. Moreover bonus from Megat at BS V is better then the tracking comp afaik.
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.06.22 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa The problem is, you can't fit for full gank anymore.
And that's kinda lame imo. Tanking has been boosted loads, why not have a more lenient penalty on damage mods or something...
Ganking something is totally pointless these days, everyone just tanks until cap is out, or use EW or something else, it's boring as hell.
qft
tuxford listen to what this girl is saying - hell get her a job at ccp! who is with me? ryysa for dev! ryysa for dev! ryysa for dev! ryysa for dev! ryysa for dev!
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kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2007.06.22 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/06/2007 10:13:32 Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/06/2007 10:05:54
Originally by: n0thing Megat has 4 meds, thus cant fit Sensor Booster to lock anything besides slow BC`s. Thus Hyperion got its 5th med slot certainly not for tracking mods. Moreover bonus from Megat at BS V is better then the tracking comp afaik.

Fit two sbs. Locking down stuff is NOT a job that is usually down by slow fat battleships.
Anyway, how does your post proove that the hype is inferior to the mega as a blasterboat?
I pew therefore I am.
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hellwarrior
Caldari Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.06.22 11:27:00 -
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i speak for my whole corp, and the people we fly with when i say this as we were discussing some of your threads on vent.
every time you post, i want to kick you in the face. 
>turret cpu implant, AND cpu overall, does it get easier >learn how to fit a blasterthron
btw i got 10 TS eanm for sale
and the amarr guys are thinking of sacrificing you to the who gives a **** god.
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n0thing
omen. D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.22 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/06/2007 10:13:32 Edited by: kill0rbunny on 22/06/2007 10:05:54
Originally by: n0thing Megat has 4 meds, thus cant fit Sensor Booster to lock anything besides slow BC`s. Thus Hyperion got its 5th med slot certainly not for tracking mods. Moreover bonus from Megat at BS V is better then the tracking comp afaik.

Fit two sbs. Locking down stuff is NOT a job that is usually down by slow fat battleships.
Anyway, how does your post proove that the hype is inferior to the mega as a blasterboat?
Aight, first of all, SB is a must on any BS to fly in close-range gangs, as faster you lock, faster you deal DPS. Faster your gang switches targets, less tacklers dead.
As for Mega vs Hype as blaster-boats without 4 nos/4 guns setups:
- Less mass, thus better acceleration, better agility.
- 37.5% tracking bonus at BS V.
- Costs 40 mil less.
- Insurance is also cheaper.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.22 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: 50freefly 'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating is your friend.
Refuge Adaptive Nano Plating? Hmmm... never heard of it...
OH WAIT, IT'S NOT COMPARABLE TO A T2 EANM! NO WONDER I DON'T KNOW WTF IT IS!
Are you people drinking from the stupid fountian again?
Lets have a 3 slots resists mega tank comparaison :
Compensation skills at 4, rounding to closest integer:
2 x EANM II / DC II (102 CPU) : 80 / 54 / 67 / 67 2 x EANM II / IFFA (89 CPU) : 79 / 53 / 66 / 66 EANM II / Refuge / DC II (66 CPU) : 78 / 51 / 65 / 65 EANM II / Refuge / IFFA (53 CPU) : 78 / 51 / 64 / 64
Compensation skills at 5, same rounding :
2 x EANM II / DC II (102 CPU) : 80 / 55 / 68 / 68 2 x EANM II / IFFA (89 CPU) : 79 / 55 / 67 / 67 EANM II / Refuge / DC II (66 CPU) : 78 / 52 / 65 / 65 EANM II / Refuge / IFFA (53 CPU) : 78 / 52 / 65 / 65
You finish all your fights with 500 hull hp left so that replacing an EANM II by a Refuge makes you cross the win/loss threshold? Or are you just a troll?
The EANM II / Refuge / DC II tank is not that far from the 2 x EANM II / IFFA tank that you seem so fond of while using WAY less CPU.
Who drank from the stupid fountain again? Some old kills, I stopped providing free intel |

Yuki Li
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.22 14:25:00 -
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I would just like to state:
My Blasterthron works fine.
that is all.
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Emsee
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.06.22 16:44:00 -
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The only problem I have with my Blasterthron is getting nos'd. Once nos gets nerfed, the 'thron will be fine. The EANM II changes haven't affected the gank/plate setup so long as you have a -5% CPU implant. Dual rep tank has been gimped abit, but thats for a Hyperion anyway.
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KD.Fluffy
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.06.22 17:21:00 -
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mega is still a great ship. TBFH If you can't make it work, you don't belong in a battle ship. It is still an immensley powerful ship.
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.06.25 22:46:00 -
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This thread is made of win and lol.
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: murder one I have proposed a solution: leave the EANMs the f#ck alone. Nobody was b#tching about them. Everything was fine. People complained about nos, about Drakes, about damn near everything else. But no one was complaining about Blasterthrons or EANMs.
You know, we could start. You're making me want to.
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Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:17:00 -
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The CPU nerf took made some setups not viable anymore, but there's good alternatives...I'm not too worried apart from the Navy Thron.
Just adapt and try other setups  _______________
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:19:00 -
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To OP: Why dont you simply do was tux intended, and LEAVE the damm EANM IN HANGAR! Put active hardners and leave the hole in EM that CCP wants to exist! One N type and 2 T2 ones done!. can't fit that? want to have a tank in 2 slots? Pitty.. BECAUS ETGHE NERF IS EXACLTY ABOUT NOT HAVING THIS ANYMORE! Simple
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon To OP: Why dont you simply do was tux intended, and LEAVE the damm EANM IN HANGAR! Put active hardners and leave the hole in EM that CCP wants to exist! One N type and 2 T2 ones done!. can't fit that? want to have a tank in 2 slots? Pitty.. BECAUS ETGHE NERF IS EXACLTY ABOUT NOT HAVING THIS ANYMORE! Simple
It's like people are taking stupid pills again.
This has been discussed to death. It's impossible to replace 2x (old 30 cpu) T2 EANM and 1x IFFA DC with 3x (new 30 cpu) active hardeners.
So please, stop posting when you're too obtuse to discern the difference.
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Rilder
Caldari THC LTD
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Posted - 2007.06.26 00:02:00 -
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Am I the only one enjoying the heck out of the Gallente being on the bad side of the nerf stick for once? 
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.26 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Kagura Nikon To OP: Why dont you simply do was tux intended, and LEAVE the damm EANM IN HANGAR! Put active hardners and leave the hole in EM that CCP wants to exist! One N type and 2 T2 ones done!. can't fit that? want to have a tank in 2 slots? Pitty.. BECAUS ETGHE NERF IS EXACLTY ABOUT NOT HAVING THIS ANYMORE! Simple
It's like people are taking stupid pills again.
This has been discussed to death. It's impossible to replace 2x (old 30 cpu) T2 EANM and 1x IFFA DC with 3x (new 30 cpu) active hardeners.
So please, stop posting when you're too obtuse to discern the difference.
You are the obtuse one that can 't see that that is exaclty what CCP wanted!!! then put 2 active hardeners and 1 FF. Face it. Now you have to have holes in your armor!!!
If the Nertf didn't force people to change setups then it would nto be a NERF!! daaaaa
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.26 00:44:00 -
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Quote: I can't think of another battleship besides possibly the Amarr BSs that suffer from fitting issues that the Megathron does. I don't
i have to fit 2! CO-PROCESSOR II on my raven and still get owned by every other bs in game:=) poor mega pilot u are:)
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: d026
Quote: I can't think of another battleship besides possibly the Amarr BSs that suffer from fitting issues that the Megathron does. I don't
i have to fit 2! CO-PROCESSOR II on my raven and still get owned by every other bs in game:=) poor mega pilot u are:)
must be some **** setup then. really toilett paper stuff. mega and raven cant be compared on hard to fit. im not agreeing with murder 1, but if you think a raven is hard to fit...
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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.26 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: d026 on 26/06/2007 01:12:19 the raven has probably the worst cpu issues. try to fit a full rack of siege II on your raven + tII tank. you will fail without 2 x co-processor + ancy router (if you like to fit somethin in those 2 remaining highslots to...) so actually compared to the raven the mega is realy easy to fit:9
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: d026 Edited by: d026 on 26/06/2007 01:12:19 the raven has probably the worst cpu issues. try to fit a full rack of siege II on your raven + tII tank. you will fail without 2 x co-processor + ancy router (if you like to fit somethin in those 2 remaining highslots to...) so actually compared to the raven the mega is realy easy to fit:9
or try neutron mega with tank... or better tachyon tank, or even mega beam tank..............
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.06.26 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Kagura Nikon To OP: Why dont you simply do was tux intended, and LEAVE the damm EANM IN HANGAR! Put active hardners and leave the hole in EM that CCP wants to exist! One N type and 2 T2 ones done!. can't fit that? want to have a tank in 2 slots? Pitty.. BECAUS ETGHE NERF IS EXACLTY ABOUT NOT HAVING THIS ANYMORE! Simple
It's like people are taking stupid pills again.
This has been discussed to death. It's impossible to replace 2x (old 30 cpu) T2 EANM and 1x IFFA DC with 3x (new 30 cpu) active hardeners.
So please, stop posting when you're too obtuse to discern the difference.
Would you stop whining already? Blasterthron is not supposed to have a regular tank. It's a gank ship. If you don't have the balls to do that with a crippled tank you'll have to cripple the gank. PERIOD.
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Rik'tik'ticheck
Minmatar The Forsakened Companions
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Posted - 2007.06.26 09:18:00 -
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Quote:
Compensation skills at 5, same rounding :
2 x EANM II / DC II (102 CPU) : 80 / 55 / 68 / 68 2 x EANM II / IFFA (89 CPU) : 79 / 55 / 67 / 67 EANM II / Refuge / DC II (66 CPU) : 78 / 52 / 65 / 65 EANM II / Refuge / IFFA (53 CPU) : 78 / 52 / 65 / 65
and if you use 3 n-type hardeners (78 cpu) you get 60/55/67.5/67.5 that should help your fitting issues
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.26 09:19:00 -
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Hi Tuxford.
You, sir, are a complete idiot.
Signed, an Amarrian pvper.
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jarack
Energy.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy Hi Tuxford.
You, sir, are a complete idiot.
Signed, an Amarrian pvper.
/signed an even better Amarrian PvPer Jarack.
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:36:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 26/06/2007 10:42:04
Originally by: Lubomir Penev
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: 50freefly 'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating is your friend.
Refuge Adaptive Nano Plating? Hmmm... never heard of it...
OH WAIT, IT'S NOT COMPARABLE TO A T2 EANM! NO WONDER I DON'T KNOW WTF IT IS!
Are you people drinking from the stupid fountian again?
Lets have a 3 slots resists mega tank comparaison :
Compensation skills at 4, rounding to closest integer:
2 x EANM II / DC II (102 CPU) : 80 / 54 / 67 / 67 2 x EANM II / IFFA (89 CPU) : 79 / 53 / 66 / 66 EANM II / Refuge / DC II (66 CPU) : 78 / 51 / 65 / 65 EANM II / Refuge / IFFA (53 CPU) : 78 / 51 / 64 / 64
Compensation skills at 5, same rounding :
2 x EANM II / DC II (102 CPU) : 80 / 55 / 68 / 68 2 x EANM II / IFFA (89 CPU) : 79 / 55 / 67 / 67 EANM II / Refuge / DC II (66 CPU) : 78 / 52 / 65 / 65 EANM II / Refuge / IFFA (53 CPU) : 78 / 52 / 65 / 65
You finish all your fights with 500 hull hp left so that replacing an EANM II by a Refuge makes you cross the win/loss threshold? Or are you just a troll?
The EANM II / Refuge / DC II tank is not that far from the 2 x EANM II / IFFA tank that you seem so fond of while using WAY less CPU.
Who drank from the stupid fountain again?
cosidering this data does it somebody else find it amazing with what the devs came up with here? [tinfoilmadness] maybe the devs are not even the ones who made this and it is monkeys inside of a cages doing the work for them or horrible genetically manipulated beings in a high-security lab deep deep beneath the surface iceland would be a perfect place for such a facillity no one is supposed to know about far far away form every known civilization. now im afraid to switch of the light  [/tinfoilmadness] seriously it is dissapointing what they came up with concerning the so called amarr buff.
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unknownuna
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:58:00 -
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I don't see a problem here.
Anyone not rich enough to buy faction mods can plug in a +3% CPU implant.
Anyone rich enough to have a pirate set in the place said imp goes can buy faction.
Unless a +3 CPU doesn't cover the increased costs, in which case my bad for not reading the rest of the thread.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:34:00 -
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I fail to see any problem. I could fit neutrons when they used 72 cpu. -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:19:00 -
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Some people are just too much mind limited to understand that the nerf idea is exactlty that you do not fit the same tank you did before! Accept that! Use 3 N type hardeners and leave EM without boost. that is what CCP wants. And they achieved that very well!!
Tux is not an idiot! The people whinnign are! They are the ones unable to grasp a simple concept
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