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n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.26 12:38:00 - [211] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Some people are just too much mind limited to understand that the nerf idea is exactlty that you do not fit the same tank you did before! Accept that! Use 3 N type hardeners You dont get it do you? Ok, once again, lets take Megat as ean example. It has 7 lows. 2 of them are damage mods. 2 of them are plates. 1 of them is DCU. Now....where insert the bad word here exactly you gonna put 3 hardeners that take if im not mistaken 30 CPU each. Loose DCU? No way. It adds a great HP buffer for hull and since Gallente has most hull of any ships, thats advantage. Only way to counter it, is fit one faction/'refuge' adaptive plating and one EANM. Oh and btw, even tho im pretty much against that unneeded nerf/boost, call it whatever you wish, it can be countered, but please, dont tell that its the same as before. ---
Ione Hunt 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.26 12:41:00 - [212] Originally by: n0thing Ok, once again, lets take Megat as ean example. It has 7 lows. 2 of them are damage mods. 2 of them are plates. 1 of them is DCU. Now....where insert the bad word here exactly you gonna put 3 hardeners that take if im not mistaken 30 CPU each. Loose DCU? No way. It adds a great HP buffer for hull and since Gallente has most hull of any ships, thats advantage. Not all blasterthrons fit 2 plates, and 2 magstabs. There's plenty of setups where you have enough room for 3 hardeners. Tbh, the mega isn't really made to tank...use a hyperion for that. _______________
Rik'tik'ticheck Minmatar The Forsakened Companions	Posted - 2007.06.26 12:50:00 - [213] Originally by: n0thing You dont get it do you? Ok, once again, lets take Megat as ean example. It has 7 lows. 2 of them are damage mods. 2 of them are plates. 1 of them is DCU. Now....where insert the bad word here exactly you gonna put 3 hardeners that take if im not mistaken 30 CPU each. Loose DCU? No way. It adds a great HP buffer for hull and since Gallente has most hull of any ships, thats advantage. well that is your problem if you insist on fitting 2 plates, especially since lots ofplates with DCU is not as good by far, so replace dcu or if you liek it so much replace a plate or mag stab, and the n-type hardeners are 26 cpu each so if you want to make another option use 1 explo hard (26) 1 eanm 2 (36) and a DCU 2 (30) so then you have 2 cpu more than before and good res anyway, just a bit different on balance ------- Well atleast you don't have to type that name for invites or coms..... My buddies loved me in EQ2 i can tell you...
Gabriel Karade Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 13:14:00 - [214] Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron A whole 24 hours for the guy who hasn't figured out the Hyperion is the blaster boat and the Megathron is the rail boat? Pretty good. I understand, back in the old days, when we had to fly uphill to school both ways (in the snow) people had to use the Megathron as a blaster boat. But those days are over. Time to move on to the Century of the Fruit Bat. The Megathron IS a blaster boat. The tracking bonus makes very little difference in BS vs BS combat at railgun ranges... (oh and in the dim and distant past it was a 5% bonus to 'blasters', not 'hybrids') ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.26 13:20:00 - [215] Originally by: n0thing Originally by: Kagura Nikon Some people are just too much mind limited to understand that the nerf idea is exactlty that you do not fit the same tank you did before! Accept that! Use 3 N type hardeners You dont get it do you? Ok, once again, lets take Megat as ean example. It has 7 lows. 2 of them are damage mods. 2 of them are plates. 1 of them is DCU. Now....where insert the bad word here exactly you gonna put 3 hardeners that take if im not mistaken 30 CPU each. Loose DCU? No way. It adds a great HP buffer for hull and since Gallente has most hull of any ships, thats advantage. Only way to counter it, is fit one faction/'refuge' adaptive plating and one EANM. Oh and btw, even tho im pretty much against that unneeded nerf/boost, call it whatever you wish, it can be countered, but please, dont tell that its the same as before. You are not getting!! You are still trying to achieve same tank!! STOP it CCP DO NOT want this tanks anymore. That is the idea of nerf. The more you struggle to get same omni tank the more CCP will nerf it. Loose the DC and use 3 hardeners or use 2 hardeners and leave 2 holes in armor. The idea is CCP wants back teh old days where you had to guess which was the armor hole on each ship!!! Forget the Omni tanks!!!! If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.26 14:45:00 - [216] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: n0thing Originally by: Kagura Nikon Some people are just too much mind limited to understand that the nerf idea is exactlty that you do not fit the same tank you did before! Accept that! Use 3 N type hardeners You dont get it do you? Ok, once again, lets take Megat as ean example. It has 7 lows. 2 of them are damage mods. 2 of them are plates. 1 of them is DCU. Now....where insert the bad word here exactly you gonna put 3 hardeners that take if im not mistaken 30 CPU each. Loose DCU? No way. It adds a great HP buffer for hull and since Gallente has most hull of any ships, thats advantage. Only way to counter it, is fit one faction/'refuge' adaptive plating and one EANM. Oh and btw, even tho im pretty much against that unneeded nerf/boost, call it whatever you wish, it can be countered, but please, dont tell that its the same as before. You are not getting!! You are still trying to achieve same tank!! STOP it CCP DO NOT want this tanks anymore. That is the idea of nerf. The more you struggle to get same omni tank the more CCP will nerf it. Loose the DC and use 3 hardeners or use 2 hardeners and leave 2 holes in armor. The idea is CCP wants back teh old days where you had to guess which was the armor hole on each ship!!! Forget the Omni tanks!!!! Dude, same as your nerf Dominix to 3 highs topic, here you also got no idea what your proposing. 2 holes in armor for BS inside 10km range = dead ship. No matter how much DPS it has. Moreover there are some real omni-tanks that are able to tank that same Megat setup. Loose magstab? Lol, 1100 dps already can be tanked in Maelstrom. Loose DCU? Same as above, you sink before killing. Loose plate? Same as above. Megat has no omni-tank, it has tank exactly to hold till it kills those insane HP/resist tanks. Thats the problem, tank vs gank balance been nerfed. You are just prolly have no idea what a good omni-tank is. 2x LAR II, 3x Hardener, 1x DCU II, 1x EANM - good omni-tank 2x Plates, 2x EANM, 1x DCU = paper-thin tank to survive till you kill. Have you ever actually flew Domi or Megat to judge? Have you ever flew a gank ship? From both of your posts, the thread with Domi setup where it needs 3k grid more then it has, and this post when you call megat an omni-tank you lack any kind of expirience at flying any of those ships and gank ships in general. ---
Cheunger BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.26 14:53:00 - [217] Originally by: murder one Thank you for adding another 60-80m ISK to my Blasterthron setup. It wasn't enough that you had to add 6 CPU per module to the T2 EANM. Now you had to add another 5 CPU to all the faction EANM, so that it takes TWO Shadow Serp EANM or TS EANM or w/e just to get back to the same CPU amount, instead of just one (one SS EANM @ 25, one T2 EANM @36 = net gain of 1 CPU, which was still under the total CPU of the ship by 1 CPU). The prices of faction EANMs have skyrocketed in the last week due to the EANM nerf. Now the demand will be even higher, and prices will climb further, as people will be forced to use two faction EANMs in place of one, just to get by. Of course, this only affects a very small number of ships, so who cares right? And don't give me that 'just fit 3x hardeners' crap. I don't have the CPU for that either. I can't even imagine what the Amarr guys are thinking right now. Well, you know. It's BoB. They get corpum EANMs easy.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.26 15:34:00 - [218] Originally by: n0thing Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: n0thing Originally by: Kagura Nikon Some people are just too much mind limited to understand that the nerf idea is exactlty that you do not fit the same tank you did before! Accept that! Use 3 N type hardeners You dont get it do you? Ok, once again, lets take Megat as ean example. It has 7 lows. 2 of them are damage mods. 2 of them are plates. 1 of them is DCU. Now....where insert the bad word here exactly you gonna put 3 hardeners that take if im not mistaken 30 CPU each. Loose DCU? No way. It adds a great HP buffer for hull and since Gallente has most hull of any ships, thats advantage. Only way to counter it, is fit one faction/'refuge' adaptive plating and one EANM. Oh and btw, even tho im pretty much against that unneeded nerf/boost, call it whatever you wish, it can be countered, but please, dont tell that its the same as before. You are not getting!! You are still trying to achieve same tank!! STOP it CCP DO NOT want this tanks anymore. That is the idea of nerf. The more you struggle to get same omni tank the more CCP will nerf it. Loose the DC and use 3 hardeners or use 2 hardeners and leave 2 holes in armor. The idea is CCP wants back teh old days where you had to guess which was the armor hole on each ship!!! Forget the Omni tanks!!!! Dude, same as your nerf Dominix to 3 highs topic, here you also got no idea what your proposing. 2 holes in armor for BS inside 10km range = dead ship. No matter how much DPS it has. Moreover there are some real omni-tanks that are able to tank that same Megat setup. Loose magstab? Lol, 1100 dps already can be tanked in Maelstrom. Loose DCU? Same as above, you sink before killing. Loose plate? Same as above. Megat has no omni-tank, it has tank exactly to hold till it kills those insane HP/resist tanks. Thats the problem, tank vs gank balance been nerfed. You are just prolly have no idea what a good omni-tank is. 2x LAR II, 3x Hardener, 1x DCU II, 1x EANM - good omni-tank 2x Plates, 2x EANM, 1x DCU = paper-thin tank to survive till you kill. Have you ever actually flew Domi or Megat to judge? Have you ever flew a gank ship? From both of your posts, the thread with Domi setup where it needs 3k grid more then it has, and this post when you call megat an omni-tank you lack any kind of expirience at flying any of those ships and gank ships in general. My Thread? lol That thread was notmine.. Now you proved that you are analphabet... and you still dont get it. It has nothing to do with I flown or not. It has to do with fact that Tux wants exactly that You CANNOT FIT THAT ANYMORE!!!! FACE IT!!! STOP crying like a baby! Change your Ship. I can easily see what can be fit or not in a ship without using a Mega (max have used in gallente is Domni.. but is too boring). Simple the idea of CCP is THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO LEAVE HOELS IN ARMOR!!! My style of ships, speed tank ships were nerfed and removed form gaem. face that your has been as well! Adapt! If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Gypsio III Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.26 15:52:00 - [219] Quote: Loose magstab? Lol, 1100 dps already can be tanked in Maelstrom. Is that the shield-tanking Maelstrom? If you lose a Blasterthron 1 v 1 to a standard shield-tanked Maelstrom then you shouldn't be in a BS at all... Even if not, then pick your targets. Everyone else has to. Or are Blasterthron pilots too "elite" for that kind of tactical planning?
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.26 15:57:00 - [220] BTW.. all tier 3 BS can tank that. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

Valadeya uthanaras	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:20:00 - [221] Edited by: Valadeya uthanaras on 26/06/2007 16:23:41 to the op: no.....actually your setup was not gimped....in fact ....it will open you eyes on something better , and not at high cost instead of thinking about EANM all the time Fit : 2 Faction (17.5%) Adaptive plating they are cheap (15 mil now) bought mine at 3 mil each the reduction after stacking penality is really low ( we talk about something around 5%) and with all the cpu you get you can fit : LAR t2 instead of accomodation: 10% increase in rep amount....less resist but still better in therm of cap effectivenes than accomodation warp disruptor t2? dcu t2? or even try to squezze in a large nos......we talk about a 60 cpu gain so quit your winning yes i know its reduce the Effectiveness of you High-grade set.....but HEY.....we talk about a 5% decrease for the possibility to fit ... t2 rep, or heavy nos(pg might be tought for this one tought) you could also drop from Heavy injector to medium to get the pg for the heavy nos=defence on small ship heavy injector with 800s = around 70 cap/s medium injector with 800s = around 38 caps per second all depend of what you want but start to be inventive EANM didnt affected my geddon.....cause they was already true sancha adaptive plating on it for the cpu ..... EDIT: and if you doubt about heavy injector to medium tell yourself this .... I FLY AMARR and medium injector make me run ALL my mods for 5 mins with charges (1 heavy nos fitted) and my laser are dam cap hungry ..... megapulse laser t2 and i have a large rep fitted
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:31:00 - [222] Originally by: Kagura Nikon BTW.. all tier 3 BS can tank that. Then what was it about with loose mag stab or plate? If any tier 3 BS can tank it, then Megat needs the setup it had. Hence, who said Tier 3 BS shouldnt killed by anything? EVE isnt about ship classes dude. Its about fitting + odds + expirience. Oh and btw, after checking your expirience at least over battleclinic...you really cant judge on what is supposed to kill what having 0.375 : 1 kill/loss ratio and flying only Minmatar cruisers. ---
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:32:00 - [223] Edited by: Kagura Nikon on 26/06/2007 16:31:19 Originally by: n0thing Originally by: Kagura Nikon BTW.. all tier 3 BS can tank that. Then what was it about with loose mag stab or plate? If any tier 3 BS can tank it, then Megat needs the setup it had. Hence, who said Tier 3 BS shouldnt killed by anything? EVE isnt about ship classes dude. Its about fitting + odds + expirience. Oh and btw, after checking your expirience at least over battleclinic...you really cant judge on what is supposed to kill what having 0.375 : 1 kill/loss ratio and flying only Minmatar cruisers. Maybe you shoudl check my K:D ratio on IAC killboards with 65:1 ratio.... or do any member of a real alliance still input something into battleclinic? If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:46:00 - [224] Well, at least fact is a fact. You fly Minmatar and never flew Gallente on BS level. Thus cant exactly judge on Domi(in the nearby thread with crazy 15k grid domi setup) or on so called Megat`s omni-tank. ---
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:47:00 - [225] Originally by: n0thing Well, at least fact is a fact. You fly Minmatar and never flew Gallente on BS level. Thus cant exactly judge on Domi(in the nearby thread with crazy 15k grid domi setup) or on so called Megat`s omni-tank. those were not my posts.. my only posts there were educe the number of TURRET slots on all dedicated drone ships" If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:42:00 - [226] Originally by: Kinsy Hi Tuxford. You, sir, are a complete idiot. Signed, an Amarrian pvper. Good god kinsy is correct about something. Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Rik'tik'ticheck Minmatar The Forsakened Companions	Posted - 2007.06.26 18:38:00 - [227] i justa have to say, that if you insist on fitting 2plates 2 mag stabs and 3 res, that is your issue, even so if you fit n-type explo hard eanm ii and dcu ii it wil use 92 cpu (2more than the old thing you used) and has res of 74.5/69.97/58.56/58.56 the problem you seem to really have tho is your inability to even try different ways to solve your problem the setup you use just isn't the only one there is, yes i know mega is hard to fit, typhoon isn't that easy eighter, but when things change you should adapt, and not start the crying right away. as you might have noticed about half of the posters in this thread say nothing changed, or even changed for the better ------- Well atleast you don't have to type that name for invites or coms..... My buddies loved me in EQ2 i can tell you...
Kinsy Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.06.27 08:34:00 - [228] To be honest...there is no problem for Gallente. My alt has as good or even slightly better skills in a blasterthron than i do in a 'geddon. 3 hardeners or 2 and a DCU, my geddon would win either way. Obviously theres no point comparing Abaddon or Apoc to a Blasterthron because, and lets face it, you'd have to be as stupid as Tuxford to use them. There about as much use as a CODA fleet commander. Its Amarr thats ubergimped by the changes. Increasing CPU on EANM makes it even harder to fit Amarr ships. And what the hell fire do we need more tracking for?! Is he sane? Does he live in trees with squirrels and do damage calculations using his 3 toes?
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.06.27 10:14:00 - [229] What I find really funny: If you fit a tank like this: 2x LAR T2, kin/therm/exp T2 hardeners, DC2, EANM2 (typical T2 domi tank fit) then your resists are around 81/81/73/73 for kin/therm/exp/em. Notice that EM is way lower than kin/therm. Now, if you do something similar to the Abaddon, you end up with something like 87% EM resist. LOL? Amarr are their own worst enemy. I'd rather shoot at a Domi w/ an Abaddon (73% EM resist) than a Megathron (81% kin/therm resist) any day of the week. BUYING CALDARI NAVY HEAVY MISSILE LAUNCHERS, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:09:00 - [230] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Edited by: Kagura Nikon on 26/06/2007 17:02:45 Originally by: n0thing Well, at least fact is a fact. You fly Minmatar and never flew Gallente on BS level. Thus cant exactly judge on Domi(in the nearby thread with crazy 15k grid domi setup) or on so called Megat`s omni-tank. those were not my posts.. my only posts there were educe the number of TURRET slots on all dedicated drone ships" Just to illustrate. There i was against ships like the following setup: 6 Ion II MWD 2 SBII 2SD 1 RCII 1600 plate 2 EANM 3 Damage mods Thing thing does 1200 dps for very very cheap setup. In gang slugfests (like the most fights i 've been on lately) where you don tank, just gank a lot. This ship is overpowered when comapred to its cost. Once again, you cant compare ship`s power based on cost and class. Ask yourself, how much of lvl V`s you need to fit and pump out 1200 dps? Id say at least Large Spec IV, BS V, Heavy Drones V, Drone Spec IV, Drone Interface V and another bunch of fitting/support skills to V. Someone who put 2 years into specialization, deserves to have 1200 dps. Moreover, as you can see, drone ships have VERY limited grid or CPU. Ishtar having 3 turret slots(hope thats not overpowered?) and bad CPU same as Domi having yeah 6 gun slots but least grid out of all turret based BSes. Myrmidon...well...it cant fit a full rack of nosfs without PG rigs as well. Or even if it does, it cant dual-rep tank or MWD. ---

d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:19:00 - [231] just listen to outbreak:)
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:43:00 - [232] Originally by: murder one What I find really funny: If you fit a tank like this: 2x LAR T2, kin/therm/exp T2 hardeners, DC2, EANM2 (typical T2 domi tank fit) then your resists are around 81/81/73/73 for kin/therm/exp/em. Notice that EM is way lower than kin/therm. Now, if you do something similar to the Abaddon, you end up with something like 87% EM resist. LOL? Amarr are their own worst enemy. I'd rather shoot at a Domi w/ an Abaddon (73% EM resist) than a Megathron (81% kin/therm resist) any day of the week. ammar worst enemies are Typhoons with 3eanm II 1 DC II and 3 1600 plates Also to the other guy sayign abbadon is worthless. Man I dont fly them (got rid of my ammar char way before revelations) but looking at our killboards the abbadon have very good results on the big engagements. Staying high on killmaisl and very good k:d ratio. It might not be perfect but it has its uses. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Jerick Ludhowe Internet Tough Guys Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.27 13:41:00 - [233] The real problem here has 100% nothing to do with omni resist tanks or the increased cpu on eanmIIs. It has to do with the way CCP decided to increase the durration of combat. Instead of extending combat length by increasing raw hp they decided it would be a fantastic idea to VASTLY increase the hp rep/regen ammounts of almost all tanks in the game (via rigs). This was the wrong way to go about fixing the identified problem. All they did was further encourage people to fit nos over guns when it comes to breaking a tank, anyone else see a problem with that? In conclusion any stock/t2 fit ship that can perma tank a point blank gank fit ship of the same class will just cause problems as far as small scale ballance goes. CCP had the right idea, but then decided to go about it the wrong way. Heinrich Klaus: "You need to get a leet signature you****got"
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.27 15:20:00 - [234] Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe The real problem here has 100% nothing to do with omni resist tanks or the increased cpu on eanmIIs. It has to do with the way CCP decided to increase the durration of combat. Instead of extending combat length by increasing raw hp they decided it would be a fantastic idea to VASTLY increase the hp rep/regen ammounts of almost all tanks in the game (via rigs). This was the wrong way to go about fixing the identified problem. All they did was further encourage people to fit nos over guns when it comes to breaking a tank, anyone else see a problem with that? In conclusion any stock/t2 fit ship that can perma tank a point blank gank fit ship of the same class will just cause problems as far as small scale ballance goes. CCP had the right idea, but then decided to go about it the wrong way. You have some points. But i respectfully disagree. I think Combat did not need to be increased. They needed to decrease the ammount of blob gankage. small scale combat is already long enough. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
ChalSto The Galactic Empire Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.06.27 17:18:00 - [235] Cpu-Imp (-3%) High: 7x Electron Blaster II, 1x Heavy-Diminishing NOS Med: 1x "Langour"Webebr, 1x Faint Warpdisruptor(20km), 1x Quad-Lif-MWD, 1x Heavy-Elecrochem-CapBooster Low: 2x MagFieldStab II, 1x InterForceField-Array I, 2x EANM II (!!), 2x LAR (Accomondation). Drones and Stuff.....0.5 CPU spare. Yea...they realy nerfed my Bthron Boom Headshot, Amarr.....boom headshot I tell ya Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.27 18:36:00 - [236] So...you cant fit T2 MWD, you cant fit Ions and you got 2 named non-T2 reps? You call that a normal Megat setup? Such setup can be broken by 1 semi-tanked decent BS pilot. ---
Redora Gallente Minmatar Ship Construction Services	Posted - 2007.06.27 20:44:00 - [237] Originally by: n0thing - Less mass, thus better acceleration, better agility. I hate to point this out, but Hyperion is actually faster (base 130m/s versus MegaT's base 125m/s) and has the same mass (102.5 M kg). Therefore... Faster acceleration, greater top speed... Same inertia modifier... So Hype has greater agility too. --- Redora http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=543553
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.06.27 21:37:00 - [238] So, let's see... Nosecmdomi: Nerfed Nanophoon: Nerfed Gankatankablastermega: Nerfed I'm liking this nerfing of much, much too powerful setups, regardless of how it's done (my setups took no hit from the EANM CPU nerf). Now we need to look into nosdamp setups, plz... Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.27 22:18:00 - [239] Edited by: n0thing on 27/06/2007 22:17:35 Originally by: Nicocat So, let's see... Nosecmdomi: Nerfed Nanophoon: Nerfed Gankatankablastermega: Nerfed I'm liking this nerfing of much, much too powerful setups, regardless of how it's done (my setups took no hit from the EANM CPU nerf). Now we need to look into nosdamp setups, plz... Oh, maybe just create one race, 5 basic ships for each class. Even out stats. And ofc remove all EW. Only mods that would stay ingame are guns and tanking gear. Guns should be all same btw, same stats over each ship. And even then....im sure we will see such posts as above that will keep whining. Go fit sensor boosters for dampers. They take 10x less skills to be good at, they take 10x less cap and they are used in all situations unlike damper that only used on longer ranges. ---
EinaruS Rage Academy oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.06.27 23:56:00 - [240] did burn eden whine when wcs got nerfed? naaah - A finger...especially the middle one, is worth more than any amount of isk



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