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Pan Crastus	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:39:00 - [1] am I the only one who finds it very hard to spot inactive turrets quickly (e.g. after reloading, in a full rack of 8 turrets) when the green blinking ones look almost the same as the inactive ones with the green light at the top? :-P Another usability disaster ... this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
Esab Caldari Pitch Black Incorporated Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:44:00 - [2] Its Dire mate....I cant see if ON or OFF most the time and is a real bad problem. Going to cause loads of hassle and YES before the flamers jump in I have tried various ways of making it easier to see but it basically sucks....sigh Esab
Cheyenne Shadowborn Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:45:00 - [3] Originally by: Pan Crastus am I the only one who finds it very hard to spot inactive turrets quickly (e.g. after reloading, in a full rack of 8 turrets) when the green blinking ones look almost the same as the inactive ones with the green light at the top? :-P Another usability disaster ... Being somewhat red/green blind I can rarely tell if my ship is shooting or not anyway ... since like everyone else I have the sound off, too. So not much of a change ... --
Trishan Green Men Incorporated The Threshold	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:46:00 - [4] No, you are not the only one. And these days it appears that translucentness has the upper hand over accesibility...
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:47:00 - [5] Try being colourblind. Yeah, I can't tell the difference between, red/green purple/blue yellow/orange brown/green Currently I mouse-over the module and look to see if it says active or inactive. It works. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Pry Maraai Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:49:00 - [6] I agree. Its even worse in systems with green colors in the background. I had to switch to wide screen to be able to see the difference.
MaxSkywalker x13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:54:00 - [7] /signed! - I live of government cheese! NERF THE BOMBS!!
Ladyah Liandri VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:58:00 - [8] /signed And while we're at it: Could the Heat buttons attached to the modules be any smaller?
nolac Minmatar NovaeDyne Industries Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:58:00 - [9] I'm also finding it hard to tell which modules are active or not, especially when they're are bunched together. I'm not even colourblind! Thanks for the idea about playing in widescreen, I'll try it after downtime.
Cowboy Nuggets Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:01:00 - [10] Same here, and I'm not colorblind either.
Mastin Dragonfly Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:02:00 - [11] Yeah, very annoying, especially in places with bright background effects.
Anehra X-Fire	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Ladyah Liandri /signed And while we're at it: Could the Heat buttons attached to the modules be any smaller? They're already way too big. My main is a pvp pilot that swap targets fast, and often need to react fast + potential lags in bubbles/gangs etc, it's way to easy to accidently heat modules that you don't want to heat just by activating them. I do use F1-7 to activate my guns, but what really bugs me is the mid/lowslots, modules you turn on/off often, mid-fight, and quite possibly while lagging. Already hated it before RevII when you were clicking like mad and accidently dragged around icons and a third of the modules didn't even activate, thanks to lag. And yeah, I generally have 100-200fps, a damn fine pc/gfx-card and a 100/100mb internet connection. I can't imagine what this does to someone that plays EVE with constant lag. I just have small spikes when activating modules/loading after gates etc - and it's already bad enough. Either way, to get back to the OP: I agree, the icons are not very nice to watch.
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:10:00 - [13] the button aren't any bigger than before lol also yeah I asked about color blind support a time ago as well but no reply
Ker Ching	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:11:00 - [14] I know it's not ideal, but I'm partially colour blind and find it easier to use widescreen mode. Does the trick, and you get used to it after a while.
Malaan Tabfassh Penguin Mining Operations and More	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:12:00 - [15] We don't have a drone UI when we don't use drones, so why do we have a heat UI when we don't use heat? Also these two keep fighting each other on the bottom right corner with lower resolutions And yes, this module online-offline-checking is annoying. A good workaround was setting the client to widescreen. Anyway, beside other issues i think this was a great patch.
Per Kopfhurer Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:18:00 - [16] Could they not change the active module color to say, yellow? That'd atleast help a bit...
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:27:00 - [17] Originally by: Per Kopfhurer Could they not change the active module color to say, yellow? That'd atleast help a bit... They could just put a little 3x3 pixel square in one corner of the module and make it black (module OFF) or bright yellow/green/white/whatever (module ON). All problems would be solved (color blindness as well) and we wouldn't need those CPU-hogging and distracting blinking effects. this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
OneSock Silentia Mortalis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:32:00 - [18] Totally agree. The green heat indicator has to be changed as it is not clear at a glance if the module is active or not. Just wait till you in heat of battle and you will see the problem. CCP, Please change the heat indicator to Blue. This makes more sense anyway, cool mod = blue, hot mod = red. Active mod = green,
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Hammer Time.	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:35:00 - [19] Indeed i did whine a little about this in IRC but it obviously had no effect, time to show my support :) ---------
Drykor Minmatar Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:51:00 - [20] /signed, really tough to see
Lady Trade	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:59:00 - [21] Edited by: Lady Trade on 20/06/2007 12:00:01 Quote: do use F1-7 to activate my guns, but what really bugs me is the mid/lowslots, modules you turn on/off often, mid-fight, and quite possibly while lagging. You can actually change the key-bindings for ALL the 3x 8 Slots (Hi, Med and Low) to something that suits you. i for instance have the two right-most medslots bound to F9 and F10. That means i can activate my 8 highs plus two other modules with only the F-keys (without actually loosing any other critical key-bindings). I simply deleted the "help" binding (F12) and moved the map and mini-map over to F11 and F12. It takes a bit of getting used to but it's really practical because you can basicly drag any two modules you like into the two right-most med slots and then access them with f9 + f10. for pvp i usually have my scram on F9 and my web on F10. it only becomes a pain if you're flying a scorp for instance.. becuase you have 8 + 6 slots that you'd like to access with F-keys but hell... usually i simply throw my usless highs down into the lows and move my ECMs to the highs.. i think you can help yourself a great deal by simply configuring the client to your needs. edit: but you ARE right! it's still a pain not be able to tell if a module is active or not... with our without key-bindings.
Dopefish Amarr Quad and Fish	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:09:00 - [22] You're not supposed to play EVE as you would a "game", you're supposed to train skills and look at the pretty colors. Design is everything. Functionality means nothing in a world where people only stay for 7 months on average. By the time you start getting seriously anoyed with various bugs your 7 months are almost up anyway. also yeah it's ******** gamedesign and i hate the ui guy at ccp and use widescreen while we wait for him to retire.
Ling Xiao Prism Project Technologies	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:17:00 - [23] It wouldn't be a CCP patch without pointless changes that everyone hates! __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
Ephemeron Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:17:00 - [24] I agree that it used to be easier to tell whether a module is active or not. I have serious problems today with this
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:18:00 - [25] I hope some CCP guy reads that. YOU shoudl make that your TOP priority to change! Its among the worst examples of interface usability i ever saw. Move that guy that did that to another department and do it all over again! If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
happomaagi Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:25:00 - [26] Me hates 'em very very much. One positive thing though, i've started to respect colourblindness as a disability a whole lot more :)
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:26:00 - [27] Do you have to look at the gearstick to know which gear you are driving in too?
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:28:00 - [28] Originally by: Gaven Blands Do you have to look at the gearstick to know which gear you are driving in too? Gearsticks don't change their position on their own. If you want to be a good troll, use better examples. this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:30:00 - [29] Yes, I noticed that myself. It's rather annoying.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:23:00 - [30] Originally by: Pan Crastus Originally by: Gaven Blands Do you have to look at the gearstick to know which gear you are driving in too? Gearsticks don't change their position on their own. If you want to be a good troll, use better examples. Modules don't switch off for no reason whatsoever. If you want to be a good troll, use better examples.

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