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Robert Denby
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Denby on 20/06/2007 17:22:27 Basically, I have to somewhat nerf any of my ships to fit a cloak. You never know when your kids are gonna freak out, wake up screaming, or whatever. So as a parent, your choices will be:
a) never leave systems that you can't dock in b) plan on losing a lot of ships to scanners c) stop playing
Kinda sucks, tbh.
I'm not telling CCP what to do, I'm just pointing this out as a dynamic.
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Sam Browne
Caldari Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:27:00 -
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Got to agree with this POV.
Could live with either a consumable fuel source or a 10/15/30 minute hit the re-cloak button requirement though.
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Nicho Void
Gallente Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:32:00 -
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Is it really that bad? How often are you going to be in a system where people are actively scanning for you when you have to go AFK? And if the answer is "low sec/0.0", then I don't really feel like it's a problem. If you venture into 0.0, you better have a safespot. ---------------
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:37:00 -
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d) don't play when it's your turn. ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can. |
Sebastien LeReparteur
Minmatar SpaceTravelers Freelance Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 d) don't play when it's your turn.
Some don't have the TURN based option... Some play Real time Life... ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone... |
Nicho Void
Gallente Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur
Some don't have the TURN based option... Some play Real time Life...
Then don't put yourself in situations where you'll be ganked if called away unless you know you have a set time to play. It's what the rest of us do. ---------------
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MissileRus
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:41:00 -
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isnt this what wifes are for?
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Denby Edited by: Robert Denby on 20/06/2007 17:22:27 Basically, I have to somewhat nerf any of my ships to fit a cloak. You never know when your kids are gonna freak out, wake up screaming, or whatever. So as a parent, your choices will be:
a) never leave systems that you can't dock in b) plan on losing a lot of ships to scanners c) stop playing
Kinda sucks, tbh.
I'm not telling CCP what to do, I'm just pointing this out as a dynamic.
/signed
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Ker Ching
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: MissileRus isnt this what wifes are for?
I think you've just become public enemy #1.
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Zalathar
Minmatar Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:45:00 -
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signed ~~~~~~ *mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!"* ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge |
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Cheunger
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nicho Void
Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur
Some don't have the TURN based option... Some play Real time Life...
Then don't put yourself in situations where you'll be ganked if called away unless you know you have a set time to play. It's what the rest of us do.
Are you stupid? The original post was about unexpected things occurring. What you're saying is for him to chose option c), which I'm sure is not the ideal option.
How much do you whine about cloaking nub? "OMG, HE'S CLOAKED!! WAHHH!! HE'S BEING SMART!! NOT FAIR!!" The whiners just don't have a clue.
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Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:50:00 -
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After hours of brainstorming i think i may have found a solution for you.
Log out then log back in when you are done.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:53:00 -
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No station in system? What about aggro countdowns?
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Cheunger
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: Cheunger on 20/06/2007 17:54:10
Originally by: Erikel After hours of brainstorming i think i may have found a solution for you.
Log out then log back in when you are done.
Yeah, and get probed down by those who take advantage of the log off delay.
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Sebastien LeReparteur
Minmatar SpaceTravelers Freelance Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Erikel After hours of brainstorming i think i may have found a solution for you.
Log out then log back in when you are done.
The only solution I found is tie up the kid...
----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone... |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:07:00 -
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I'm sorry(well not really), but this is a real life issue that effects gaming, not the game.
You have a limited gametime -in general- because of a wife/kids, it's not a reason to keep/change an item/issue in a game.
It's equivelant of me saying "I've got diabetes, please make it easier for me to snack between missions." Only difference being that i didn't choose to be diabetic, you chose to get new priorities in your life.
EVE is still a game for gamers, and it's known as a ruthless world, so daddies and mommies...no mercy
So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have. |
milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nicho Void Is it really that bad? How often are you going to be in a system where people are actively scanning for you when you have to go AFK?
Ever heard of Murrphy's Law?
Bastage, Inc. Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:10:00 -
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Well emergencies happen to everyone, not just parents.
There are numerous other situations where people have to live with an aggro countdown like people in the middle of a fleet battle for example. Or what about the poor alcoholics like me that need to go get beers and go to the bathroom often?
You can even get disconnected, that's certainly not fair. Should we just have a button that makes us immune to everything just in case of emergencies?
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Sebastien LeReparteur
Minmatar SpaceTravelers Freelance Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Erikel Should we just have a button that makes us immune to everything just in case of emergencies?
----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone... |
Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Erikel Should we just have a button that makes us immune to everything just in case of emergencies?
that would be nice
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:17:00 -
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Yes, and what about macro-ratters who have little macro-babies to take care of. What about them, huh?
Please for the love of god, will no one think of the wee macro-bairns? * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
-Douglas Adams, writing about EVE |
Dant Kramble
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:37:00 -
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/signed
Been laughed at quite a few times when people kill me and the mail mentions a cloak on pretty much everything.
I'd favor a different idea. I don't like the untouchable red square in local any more than the next guy, but if a game mechanism can be changed to help out us parents w/o causing trouble to everybody else, then why not?
Here's my pitch - cloaks on autorepeat shut down overview/local/ui. Make the screen go black with a textbox w/ a button to wake up. That way, locals know a hidden hostile is either right there smashing buttons or blind. Small comfort I guess, but provides limits. Provide a buffer for covert ops & recons.
Yeah, people could log off, but that has its own problems. If I'm cloaked and afk, I'm most likely changing diapers. You would have to be a pretty nasty metagamer to want me podded while I am elbows-deep in infant excrement.
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Mdram
Caldari Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nicho Void Is it really that bad? How often are you going to be in a system where people are actively scanning for you when you have to go AFK? And if the answer is "low sec/0.0", then I don't really feel like it's a problem. If you venture into 0.0, you better have a safespot.
safespot against a probe? oh how do i make that!
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prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: prathe on 20/06/2007 18:37:39
Originally by: Nicho Void Is it really that bad? How often are you going to be in a system where people are actively scanning for you when you have to go AFK? And if the answer is "low sec/0.0", then I don't really feel like it's a problem. If you venture into 0.0, you better have a safespot.
LMAO
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DeODokktor
Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:41:00 -
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I would actually like to sign -vs- this detecting cloak'd ships should be posible, but only if they are in your grid, and I think it should take work by a few players (like 3 players doing something (shrug))..
Safespot cloaking is required, I used to do it a LOT when I would travel around 0.0.. it was either that or log out, and I guess if cloakies become 100% findable from anywhere, then indeed it'll just be time to log out ..
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Max Grief
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:46:00 -
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You just need to bust out yourTech 2 Child Scrambler
Or if you are a bit slow on the scrambler A Mobile Child Disrupter May be in order.....
PS. I'm Joking.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: milinkoee
Originally by: Nicho Void Is it really that bad? How often are you going to be in a system where people are actively scanning for you when you have to go AFK?
Ever heard of Murrphy's Law?
Britney Murphy's Law: No matter how cute she gets, she still has no boobies...
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Melor Rend
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:51:00 -
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i think there should be a restriction to cloaking: in systems with Sov and maybe a POS-module (such as a "signal tracking array") you should be auto-probed by hostile POSes after say 15 minutes in the same grid. then all players that own the POS will get a warning "Cloaked hostile detected" or something and could warp to him.
In uncliamed space or if there is no installed POS-module then you can't be probed while cloaked but have to press a button every 10-20 minutes so you can't be AFK for to long. |
Aindrias
Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cheunger
How much do you whine about cloaking nub? "OMG, HE'S CLOAKED!! WAHHH!! HE'S BEING SMART!! NOT FAIR!!" The whiners just don't have a clue.
Ok, I'm not about the "Queens Rules of Fair Combat" in pvp necessarily, but this coming from a BE member just makes me lmao. You guys literally haven't done anything that I've seen worthy of being combat.
I think one mans "Smart" is another mans "Lame". CCP pretty much agrees with this. Listen to the last Live Dev Blog. You guys might have to fight at your gate camps this time! WOW.
Cloaks are fine in general until the Cloaked ship becomes a solo-pwn-mobile. A cloak on a non-cloak specific ship should nerf all potential for damage and tanking. On a recon/stealth ship cloaks should be very effective, but "solo-cloak-pwn-mobiles" should be limited however. Cloak-specific ships should have to work with other ships to be effective.
Also should be ship-sized specific cloaks. Small, med, large, x-large. I find it lame you can fit a normal sized cloak on a MOthership ffs.
See what you can do with Paintbrush? |
Vodka Neat
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.20 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones I'm sorry(well not really), but this is a real life issue that effects gaming, not the game.
You have a limited gametime -in general- because of a wife/kids, it's not a reason to keep/change an item/issue in a game.
It's equivelant of me saying "I've got diabetes, please make it easier for me to snack between missions." Only difference being that i didn't choose to be diabetic, you chose to get new priorities in your life.
EVE is still a game for gamers, and it's known as a ruthless world, so daddies and mommies...no mercy
How dare you make a logical and valid point in a forum thread!
Also /signed Why are you still reading? Its over. Continue to the next post.
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