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Lord Dynastron
Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: JP Moregain
Bah, you executed a near perfect troll + derail now. 10/10!
ROFL!
My coworker in the other office just yelled at me "what is so funny?"
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Emmerlaine
Gallente Crab and Krawdad Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.06.20 22:48:00 -
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/signed
Anybody who thinks you can put your kids on pause has no kids.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:00:00 -
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The nerfing of the Privateer screwed over a lot of Parents and other people who have problems in real life which limit their game time.
The pick up - join a gang - and get some action immediatly kept many in game who have now left. Not having to wait 2 hours for a fleet to form up - jump 30 systems then die due to lag was a great boon for those of us with real lives (not me btw :) )
Its a great shame to the OP. But CCP dosent give a hoot.
SKUNK
Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
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punkrocka
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Balnoor Its getting a little boring reading about how cloaking should be nerfed because some players just cant stand the fact that there is a potential target out there that cant be attacked because its cloaked.
So what! Its in the game, live with it and move on. This is the sort of thing I would expect to find on the WoW forums to be honest.
/signed
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari RennTech
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:05:00 -
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So if I'm reading this correctly..
You want CCP to adjust the game that thousands play.. just to accomidate your desire to have children?
If you take the risk as we all do that something will occur in RL that will require you to leave the computer for minutes to hours. But you want more cause you couldn't keep it in your pants and now have to deal with the kids while tyring to play eve.. and your suggestion is its better to change the game FOR you. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
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Annika MonSulu
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri So if I'm reading this correctly..
You want CCP to adjust the game that thousands play.. just to accomidate your desire to have children?
If you take the risk as we all do that something will occur in RL that will require you to leave the computer for minutes to hours. But you want more cause you couldn't keep it in your pants and now have to deal with the kids while tyring to play eve.. and your suggestion is its better to change the game FOR you.
Might want to get your facts straight. He is asking CCP to NOT change the game...to leave the game as it is ALREADY in regards to cloaks. It's the ones QQing about not being able to kill everyone in cloaks that ARE asking CCP to change the game. |

Cipher7
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:29:00 -
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Yeah lets balance the game based around the need to go afk.
The rest of us play this for entertainment, not to accomodate Chinese Farmers who ss+cloak or parents who time their parental responsibilities in between rat spawns.
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Darth Pheonix
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Pheonix on 20/06/2007 23:31:27 The game is fine. Griefers just want to be able to pew pew every person the see in local without difficulty, that's why they want to nerf cloaks.
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Mari Onette
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:42:00 -
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To be perfectly honest, If nobody else is around to watch the kids while you play eve, maybe you should go play with your children instead of eve. I'm sure they would love very much to get a chance to play with their dad more.
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petergriffen
Amarr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:47:00 -
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Sometimes while I'm on an op, I like to go out and have a cigarette. CCP, can you implement a function that I can click on my interface to make me unable to be killed while I'm camping a gate with my compatriots?
</sarcasm>
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Raketefrau
Caldari Soldi di Protezione
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Posted - 2007.06.21 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mari Onette To be perfectly honest, If nobody else is around to watch the kids while you play eve, maybe you should go play with your children instead of eve. I'm sure they would love very much to get a chance to play with their dad more.
Children sleep. If you're a good parent, they go to bed pretty early.
I work from home to watch my son grow up and be as big a part of his life as I can.
Quaint troll, but not very effective.
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MehTheTrader
University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.06.21 01:27:00 -
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log off?
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Raketefrau
Caldari Soldi di Protezione
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: MehTheTrader log off?
You can still be scanned and popped.
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FarScape III
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Posted - 2007.06.21 06:27:00 -
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BULL! If you got to do somthing quick then just alt-q,
you will be out of the game long bafore someone can find your warped to a safe spotted ship.
A Minmater City... Cool! My Skills |

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Raketefrau
Originally by: MehTheTrader log off?
You can still be scanned and popped.
This argument always assumes there is a competently skilled prober in the system dedicated to finding only you.. I've yet to be popped in almost 3 years of play by logging because I had to do some unexpected task that took me away from the game.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: MissileRus isnt this what wifes are for? 
QFT! Signed! Rabbled! ETC! 
"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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ShardowRhino
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.21 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: ShardowRhino on 21/06/2007 07:31:10
Originally by: Dant Kramble /signed
Been laughed at quite a few times when people kill me and the mail mentions a cloak on pretty much everything.
I'd favor a different idea. I don't like the untouchable red square in local any more than the next guy, but if a game mechanism can be changed to help out us parents w/o causing trouble to everybody else, then why not?
Here's my pitch - cloaks on autorepeat shut down overview/local/ui. Make the screen go black with a textbox w/ a button to wake up. That way, locals know a hidden hostile is either right there smashing buttons or blind. Small comfort I guess, but provides limits. Provide a buffer for covert ops & recons.
Yeah, people could log off, but that has its own problems. If I'm cloaked and afk, I'm most likely changing diapers. You would have to be a pretty nasty metagamer to want me podded while I am elbows-deep in infant excrement.
seriously the idea of giving a specific group of players an advantage or to keep something the way it is just for that groups convience, its total nonsense!
I'm in the U.S. and i hear a lot about how players seem to find most of the named rats right after downtime, I hereby suggest that CCP update the server so that those of us in North America can get a shot at grabbing up a load of named rats. Its not fair that the euro players get to have the bulk of them!
Also since I live in the U.S. there are areas that are already mined to hell once I log on becuase all the greedy euro miners hit the fields. Give me a "respawn astroid" button!
I'm not a parent but when i assume that i will have certain things pop up , i simply DO NOT go out into areas where ill get jacked if im distracted. Does it suck, is it limiting to what i can do at times? Hell yes but damned if I think CCP should make changes to suit my game time and problems.
Eve just isn't a game where you can seriously play in dangerous areas when you know your going to get distracted and called away. You know the risks your facing once you leave .5 and you know your own RL situation so if you get jacked, its your fault for going afk out in .4 or less.
Also what do i care if a parent has to go afk when i have some jackass sitting in a system cloaked. What do i care about someone I dont know wanting CCP to stop developing the game in a way that suits their needs when I don't find it fair for me to train to use probes, only to have all that rendered useless by some damn cloak?
Cloaks as they are = immunity . Other then .5+ what immunity exists out in .4 and below? You know the situation, you know the risks. Risk vs. Reward is what it boils down to and I'm not one for giving a reward to those that don't want the risk.
OH AND CAN SOMEONE FIX THIS "Status:unknown" BS thats been going on since the patch??/
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Ozstar
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 07:35:00 -
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Whilst i empathise with the op, this isnt CCP's problem.
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia It¦s still very ackward reading threads about 'how to ride eris'
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kaeri
Gallente Kaeri Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:37:00 -
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I'm a parent.
My kids needs always come first, If I lose a ship because I have to see to them, I'll get another one. It's just a game! Just dock, log off or dont get yourself into situations you cant get out of...
oh and as always....Dont fly in a ship you can't afford to lose ;)
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Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:46:00 -
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It's interesting to see all the replys from people without kids. You obviously have no clue at all.
/signed.
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Mirri Kazaki
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:56:00 -
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My problem isn't getting podded because of my kids OOG, the change to cloaking would get me podded by them IG though. 
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Pinpisa Jormao
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Posted - 2007.06.21 12:06:00 -
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1.Nerf cloak 2.Change 'local system' to 'local grid' 3.Add 'neighborhood systems' where you only have + standings people in 0.0 within certain range of you. Sort of like constellation chat but slightly bigger area and work over edges of constellations.
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Zakgram
Atomic Heroes The OSS
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Posted - 2007.06.21 12:15:00 -
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Assuming you're cloaked, just randomly pointing your ship in some direction and setting your speed to maximum will result in a complete lack of good probe results since the probers will jump to the same area as you but will always be more than far enough away from you that they won't ever find you. They'll warp into the area, go "look, nothing here... must have warped off again".
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Cpt Branko
Partisan Warfare Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zakgram Assuming you're cloaked, just randomly pointing your ship in some direction and setting your speed to maximum will result in a complete lack of good probe results since the probers will jump to the same area as you but will always be more than far enough away from you that they won't ever find you. They'll warp into the area, go "look, nothing here... must have warped off again".
Yeah, this makes sense, and logging off should work about 99% of the time anyway.
At any rate, if I'm going to lose a ship over IRL things which are important, well, I can always get another ship. I sometimes go AFK at a safespot in low-sec, because there's something more important then a game that needs my attention.
So, while I do understand and can relate to your problems, they're not CCP's problems, nor should game mechanics need to cater for them.
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Silpher
Symphony of Destruction Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 12:28:00 -
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They've already said they're not going to allow the scanning of cloaked ships. What they *have* sad is that it they may cause it to consume a resource (be it cap, fuel, w/e) or even have a timer. I don't understand why this issue is coming up, yet again. Plz, stop going on about this. There's already a 15+ page thread of the back and forth discussion of this topic, and having another one is just silly.
CCP already has something in cooking up to find a middle ground for the issue, and I guarentee they've heard every argument possible from both sides as to what or would not be propper. --- *snip* Your signature is inappropriate for these forums, email [email protected] with a link to your signature if you have questions -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |

Christari Zuborov
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Posted - 2007.06.21 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Silpher They've already said they're not going to allow the scanning of cloaked ships. What they *have* sad is that it they may cause it to consume a resource (be it cap, fuel, w/e) or even have a timer. I don't understand why this issue is coming up, yet again. Plz, stop going on about this. There's already a 15+ page thread of the back and forth discussion of this topic, and having another one is just silly.
CCP already has something in cooking up to find a middle ground for the issue, and I guarentee they've heard every argument possible from both sides as to what or would not be propper.
Quote please?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:08:00 -
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Why not just go the whole hog and add a "pause button"? 
Cloak = invulnerable mode. EVE does not need an invulnerable mode. Invulnerable mode sure is handy for some RL situations, but it doesn't make it a good addition to the game.
Unless you're in the thick of PvP agro, deep space safe spot and log off is just about as safe as you'll ever need it. And personally I don't PvP if I know I'm likely to get distracted- my PvP time is when I know I'm safe from RL distractions. Sucks if your life has a lot of distractions, but it doesn't mean the game mechanics should remain borked for your benefit. --------
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 21/06/2007 14:13:00
Originally by: Robert Denby Basically, I have to somewhat nerf any of my ships to fit a cloak. You never know when your kids are gonna freak out, wake up screaming, or whatever. So as a parent, your choices will be:
a) never leave systems that you can't dock in b) plan on losing a lot of ships to scanners c) stop playing
Kinda sucks, tbh.
I'm not telling CCP what to do, I'm just pointing this out as a dynamic.
Oh god this is so... so true. 
Though cloaking can be overpowered, EVE does need to at least cater to people who have a real life. Maybe offer a short period of invulnerability after which the cloaker can be scanned down (30 minutes).
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:14:00 -
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So CCP should provide cloak as a safe way to go AFK for when things pop up.
Lets replace ccp with restaurant and cloak with babysitter.
A restaurant should provide a babysitter so parents can come dining.
Sounds silly that way, right?
As for parents having more financial means, that's bs. For the last 2 decades teens and twenthies have been listed as an important group to pry money from. They usually have a decent income and few to none fixed expenditures.
Fresh parents have to deal with rent/mortgage, utility bills, insurance, car + maintenance, kids and their associated costs, putting aside money for the kids to go to school. Except a lucky few most parents are strapped for cash not flowing with it.
Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Shey Navarr
Core Element
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:42:00 -
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Hi, single parent of two small kids here. I have to disagree with the idea that a parent needs a special way to go afk safely. I've lost my ship a few times having to leave the computer but that was solely my choice to leave my ship hanging in space rather than hitting ctrl-q.
I do, however, think that cloaked ships should not be scannable. Seems kind of silly. If they want to stop people from sitting in cloak for hours on end then they should do it another way.
To the poster that thinks parents shouldn't play games: When kids are asleep/at a friends house/at school etc. and I'm off work what else should I be doing to relax?
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