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Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.24 03:07:00 - [1] I've had a number of requests for this, so here it is: this will solve the "black screen on bootup" problem that some people get after installing a test server build alongside TQ, amongst other problems. Mods, any chance of a sticky? If anyone wants to add some pretty pictures alongside my installation instructions, I'd appreciate it. Likewise, if anyone would mind editing this to work on Vista, which stores data in slightly different directories, please do so and I'll include it in this post. First off, the .bat (XP version): Originally by: Windows XP .bat @echo off REM Some pathnames set EVEPATH=%CD% set RAMPATH=%EVEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=%EVEPATH%\UserProfile REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o. set SETDIR=Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings @echo "Creating infrastructure under '%PROFPATH%'" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\My Documents" IF NOT EXIST "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\History.txt" ( @echo "Copying over old files and settings..." REM Copy over old data from USERPROFILE xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%USERPROFILE%\%SETDIR%" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" REM Copy over old data from local Cache, if extant xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%EVEPATH%\cache\settings" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" @echo "Done!" ) REM Don't worry, USERPROFILE isn't getting set outside of this process. set USERPROFILE=%PROFPATH% "%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF So, easy way to do this, first. (Note to the experienced users: I'm assuming they don't have file extensions shown; that's why we're doing this the roundabout way.) Open up Notepad, paste all that in. Save it into your Eve directory as "eve.txt". Now, on the start menu, hit Run. In the box, type "cmd" and hit enter. At the command prompt, navigate to your Eve directory using the "cd" command. If you haven't changed it, this will work: cd C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve Then rename the .txt file to .bat: rename eve.txt eve.bat Open an Explorer window in the current directory: start . (Note the ".", preceded by a space.) Click the "X" in the corner of the command prompt window to close it. Now just right-click-drag that .bat file and create a shortcut on your desktop, or your start menu, or wherever you typically run Eve from. Use the new shortcut to run Eve, and everything should work! If you want to make it a bit more fancy, create the shortcut as before, but then right-click the shortcut and choose Properties. Click "change icon"; it'll tell you the .bat file doesn't have any icons and offer up some default ones. In the box at the top, type: C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve\eve.exe and hit enter. The Eve icon will appear. Select it and hit OK. Now your shortcut has the proper icon! If you need to clear it, your cache is now back under C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve\cache. Your "settings" directory, which you typically do NOT want to clear, is now in C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings. Good thing you don't really want to clear that very often, eh? To make it work on a new Eve install (for example, a test server install), just copy the .bat file to the new Eve directory and make a fresh shortcut to it. I'd strongly suggest renaming it so you can keep track of which one starts out of which directory! --P Moved to Known Issues and Workarounds from EVE General Discussion -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.24 03:08:00 - [2] -reserved for XP version, RAMDisk version (once I finish removing all the cruft from mine), etc., etc.- Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.24 18:12:00 - [3] Really, no responses, guys? I thought this was needed, judging by the number of people ***ing on IRC. Oh, well. --P Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
Inuyasha507 Caldari Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.06.24 19:30:00 - [4] do u have one of those for vista yet????
Kindakrof Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.06.25 00:22:00 - [5] THANXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OMG --- --- ---
Methylphenidate	Posted - 2007.06.25 01:13:00 - [6] the batch runs and it is in the correct directory however nothing happens now. The cmd flashes up for about a frame then dissapears and eve doesn't start... any ideas?
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.25 01:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Methylphenidate the batch runs and it is in the correct directory however nothing happens now. The cmd flashes up for about a frame then dissapears and eve doesn't start... any ideas? Hmm, okay. Can you run it in a command window (start->run, "cmd", "cd c:\Program Files\CCP\Eve" (or whatever your Eve directory is), then run it by typing "eve.bat") and tell me what it says? --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.25 01:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Inuyasha507 do u have one of those for vista yet???? Nope, but if you can tell me the folder structure under which CCP stores the Eve application data, I can create one pretty easily. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Methylphenidate	Posted - 2007.06.25 02:13:00 - [9] Edited by: Methylphenidate on 25/06/2007 02:13:02 Originally by: Pilk Hmm, okay. Can you run it in a command window (start->run, "cmd", "cd c:\Program Files\CCP\Eve" (or whatever your Eve directory is), then run it by typing "eve.bat") and tell me what it says? --P I just prints the contents of the batch file, the same as the text that you first posted...
Methylphenidate	Posted - 2007.06.25 03:16:00 - [10] Got it fixed, thanks for the help. :)
3rdoffive Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2007.06.25 04:30:00 - [11] Edited by: 3rdoffive on 25/06/2007 04:31:56 i have vista...i did it all and put it in the right directory, however i have a different problem...the program will run, to the intro screen (REVII) it will sit there for a little while and then stop running, as in the program ends. by the way, i tried a number of things to get this to go away...uninstall-reinstall, deletion and re-downloading the client, even system recovery to a point before this happened. none of it worked
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.25 04:58:00 - [12] Well, thanks! The title of the thread didn't seem to be related to anything I was having trouble with.... but once I found the thread, it's exactly what I need to counteract the boneheaded decision of CCP to muck unnecessarily with the data file movement. Thanks to you, I can now log back into eve. Btw, one of your placeholders is listed as being for 'XP version' which you have already provided... should probably be 'Vista version'
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.25 05:09:00 - [13] Edited by: Miter on 25/06/2007 05:08:08 A posted a link to this thread from the Patch Issue Tracking thread
Constantinee Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.25 05:13:00 - [14] hey. this isent working for me man and to be quite frank im about to throw my damn computer out of my window then ask ccp to buy me a new one for the greif they are causing right now :). so this is what happens first i get the black screen then t be sure i uninstall then reinstall eve and get ri dof all settings folders and sisi folder. still black screen of doom. now i do as you say but get something weird . my cmd does this. the hell is this? so ok i try and go around it i to a comp search for cmd. one pops up in my sp files folder ok i click. i go to the adress for the eve folder as it says above andjust get nothing after that. so i manually go to eve folder and rename it eve.bat. still nothing do the iconing stuff and still i am screwed. so my question is this....WTF AM I DOING WRONG AND HOW CAN I FIX MY DAMN CMD!? oh and again thank you ccp for making my eve experience wonderful :) Omerta Syndicate
Inuyasha507 Caldari Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.06.25 06:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Inuyasha507 do u have one of those for vista yet???? Nope, but if you can tell me the folder structure under which CCP stores the Eve application data, I can create one pretty easily. --P its the same as XP (C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE)i think, but the capture and chatlog folders are stored in the documents folder
Lukas Rox Torchwood Industries	Posted - 2007.06.25 07:23:00 - [16] Edited by: Lukas Rox on 25/06/2007 07:27:59 Quote: now i do as you say but get something weird . my cmd does this. the hell is this? I've seen this kind of errors on a PC infected with Win32.Tenga It's an actual virus - not a worm - that modifies exe files to contain virus copies. Some EXE files wont run properly when infected. The error might also indicate some corruption in your system files leading DOS VM to a crash. Scan the system with some AV software just to be sure. --- Visit in game for nice items links http://eve.interkam.pl/eveships
XLord Amarr De Valken BV Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.25 07:52:00 - [17] i did everything you said above but when i try to start eve i get the first nice pic of rev. II and then it should show me the screen where it was black but no i dont get the screen at all:S help what did i do wrong:P
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.25 12:47:00 - [18] Originally by: XLord i did everything you said above but when i try to start eve i get the first nice pic of rev. II and then it should show me the screen where it was black but no i dont get the screen at all:S help what did i do wrong:P Are you running it with the .bat, or did you accidentally make a shortcut to the .exe? --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.25 12:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Inuyasha507 Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Inuyasha507 do u have one of those for vista yet???? Nope, but if you can tell me the folder structure under which CCP stores the Eve application data, I can create one pretty easily. --P its the same as XP (C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE)i think, but the capture and chatlog folders are stored in the documents folder I'm told the Application Data folder has a different name, at least. Something like "AppData", perhaps? Open a command prompt and type this: dir /s /b /ad Eve And tell me what you get. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.25 12:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Constantinee EDIT Ok i fixed it i just deleted the eve directory in the local settings. if there is anyway you can show me how to fix that cmd issue so i can do what you shjow for the future please eve mail me. thx const Sounds like you have a nasty little virus, TBH. Grab any of a half-dozen free anti-virus programs (I recommend Clam-Win, which is free and open-source) and see if you get any hits. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
J3ST3R Gallente Dark Light Inc	Posted - 2007.06.25 14:57:00 - [21] I have the same problem as Methylphenidate can you post what the resolution of this problem was please.
Johnny NESSUK	Posted - 2007.06.25 15:01:00 - [22] Thanks man. All sorted. I even re downloaded Eve before i found your fix. Good work. :)
XLord Amarr De Valken BV Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.25 17:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: XLord i did everything you said above but when i try to start eve i get the first nice pic of rev. II and then it should show me the screen where it was black but no i dont get the screen at all:S help what did i do wrong:P Are you running it with the .bat, or did you accidentally make a shortcut to the .exe? --P nop made the .bat and than tried it but all i get is nice start/load screen and then when it disapears i get nothing in return:S
Inuyasha507 Caldari Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.06.25 17:33:00 - [24] ok i ran the green stuff and got this......C:\Users\Anthony\AppData\local\CCP\EVE then, C:\Users\Anthony\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\CCP\EVE and after that is, C:\Users\AnthonyDocuments\|EVE
JanSVK	Posted - 2007.06.25 17:52:00 - [25] Thank you for the fix.
Kyder	Posted - 2007.06.25 18:16:00 - [26] I'm still having no joy, beginning to gt annoyed about it to be honest, tried unistalling reinstalling, everything, clearing cache, trying your method, nothing.
J3ST3R Gallente Dark Light Inc	Posted - 2007.06.25 20:55:00 - [27] @echo off REM Some pathnames set EVEPATH=%CD% set RAMPATH=%EVEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=%EVEPATH%\UserProfile REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o.set SETDIR=Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings @echo "Creating infrastructure under '%PROFPATH%'" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\My Documents" IF NOT EXIST "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\History.txt" ( @echo "Copying over old files and settings..." REM Copy over old data from USERPROFILE xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%USERPROFILE%\%SETDIR%" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" REM Copy over old data from local Cache, if extant xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%EVEPATH%\cache\settings" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" @echo "Done!" ) REM Don't worry, USERPROFILE isn't getting set outside of this process. set USERPROFILE=%PROFPATH%" %EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Spaces missing from Pilk's post put them into my txt file then did the dat conversion and het presto back in eve
Inuyasha507 Caldari Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.06.25 23:22:00 - [28] Originally by: J3ST3R @echo off REM Some pathnames set EVEPATH=%CD% set RAMPATH=%EVEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=%EVEPATH%\UserProfile REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o.set SETDIR=Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings @echo "Creating infrastructure under '%PROFPATH%'" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\My Documents" IF NOT EXIST "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\History.txt" ( @echo "Copying over old files and settings..." REM Copy over old data from USERPROFILE xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%USERPROFILE%\%SETDIR%" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" REM Copy over old data from local Cache, if extant xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%EVEPATH%\cache\settings" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" @echo "Done!" ) REM Don't worry, USERPROFILE isn't getting set outside of this process. set USERPROFILE=%PROFPATH%" %EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Spaces missing from Pilk's post put them into my txt file then did the dat conversion and het presto back in eve can u explain what that is for??
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 01:16:00 - [29] Originally by: J3ST3R @echo off REM Some pathnames set EVEPATH=%CD% set RAMPATH=%EVEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=%EVEPATH%\UserProfile REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o.set SETDIR=Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings @echo "Creating infrastructure under '%PROFPATH%'" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\My Documents" IF NOT EXIST "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\History.txt" ( @echo "Copying over old files and settings..." REM Copy over old data from USERPROFILE xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%USERPROFILE%\%SETDIR%" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" REM Copy over old data from local Cache, if extant xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%EVEPATH%\cache\settings" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" @echo "Done!" ) REM Don't worry, USERPROFILE isn't getting set outside of this process. set USERPROFILE=%PROFPATH%" %EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Spaces missing from Pilk's post put them into my txt file then did the dat conversion and het presto back in eve Where are spaces missing in my post, exactly? I want to correct it, but all seems to be in order. Also, you put "REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o.set SETDIR=Local" all on one line. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 01:28:00 - [30] Originally by: J3ST3R I have the same problem as Methylphenidate can you post what the resolution of this problem was please. Does the file have a batch file icon () or a text file icon ()? --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
XLord Amarr De Valken BV Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:56:00 - [31] Originally by: J3ST3R @echo off REM Some pathnames set EVEPATH=%CD% set RAMPATH=%EVEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=%EVEPATH%\UserProfile REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o.set SETDIR=Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings @echo "Creating infrastructure under '%PROFPATH%'" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\My Documents" IF NOT EXIST "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\History.txt" ( @echo "Copying over old files and settings..." REM Copy over old data from USERPROFILE xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%USERPROFILE%\%SETDIR%" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" REM Copy over old data from local Cache, if extant xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%EVEPATH%\cache\settings" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" @echo "Done!" ) REM Don't worry, USERPROFILE isn't getting set outside of this process. set USERPROFILE=%PROFPATH%" %EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Spaces missing from Pilk's post put them into my txt file then did the dat conversion and het presto back in eve i dont know what you changed but that 1 isnt working, even less than pilk's 1. with yours i dont get a load screen i just get the same screen as with cmd and then within the sec it disapears
washy2 Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.06.26 08:17:00 - [32] well as i just wanted to play on the test server...ofc i had to dl and install the test patch which farked it all up...reinstalls and such....Youre Fix ...well...Fixed it Ty for ure "bat" stuff Wash
J3ST3R Gallente Dark Light Inc	Posted - 2007.06.26 09:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: J3ST3R @echo off REM Some pathnames set EVEPATH=%CD% set RAMPATH=%EVEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=%EVEPATH%\UserProfile REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o.set SETDIR=Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings @echo "Creating infrastructure under '%PROFPATH%'" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\My Documents" IF NOT EXIST "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\History.txt" ( @echo "Copying over old files and settings..." REM Copy over old data from USERPROFILE xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%USERPROFILE%\%SETDIR%" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" REM Copy over old data from local Cache, if extant xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%EVEPATH%\cache\settings" "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" @echo "Done!" ) REM Don't worry, USERPROFILE isn't getting set outside of this process. set USERPROFILE=%PROFPATH%" %EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Spaces missing from Pilk's post put them into my txt file then did the dat conversion and het presto back in eve Where are spaces missing in my post, exactly? I want to correct it, but all seems to be in order. Also, you put "REM the only reason for this variable is to combat word-wrap on eve-o.set SETDIR=Local" all on one line. --P Your original post is missing the 3 blank lines as I view itso I copied and pasted and added the 3 lines which is all I had to change to get it to work
J3ST3R Gallente Dark Light Inc	Posted - 2007.06.26 09:05:00 - [34] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: J3ST3R I have the same problem as Methylphenidate can you post what the resolution of this problem was please. Does the file have a batch file icon () or a text file icon ()? --P I had the batch file Icon still wouldn't work at that time. I changed it back into txt file and put in the blank lines that I couldn't see on your original post for some reason and the back to bat and eve ran from then on.
Hamalicious Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.26 11:57:00 - [35] Edited by: Hamalicious on 26/06/2007 11:56:08 Pilk your a dead set legend! I updated my test server install the other day and since then i have not been able to get on, dam black screen on start up. Uninstall - Reinstall nadda. your fix worked a charm, thank you... Does this mean, we can no longer play on the test server without screwing our TQ install ?
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:43:00 - [36] Originally by: Hamalicious Edited by: Hamalicious on 26/06/2007 11:56:08 Pilk your a dead set legend! I updated my test server install the other day and since then i have not been able to get on, dam black screen on start up. Uninstall - Reinstall nadda. your fix worked a charm, thank you... Does this mean, we can no longer play on the test server without screwing our TQ install ? Nope! So long as you use these .bat files to run either ALL of your Eve installations, or all but EXACTLY ONE, you'll be fine. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:55:00 - [37] Originally by: J3ST3R Originally by: Pilk Originally by: J3ST3R I have the same problem as Methylphenidate can you post what the resolution of this problem was please. Does the file have a batch file icon () or a text file icon ()? --P I had the batch file Icon still wouldn't work at that time. I changed it back into txt file and put in the blank lines that I couldn't see on your original post for some reason and the back to bat and eve ran from then on. Yep, that's it! You guys are using Internet Explorer (or a derivative). Apparently, IE is on ***--I can view the HTML source and see that I have an explicit blank line there, but it's a no-go. No worries, though, it turns out that that was a catalyst to make me rethink the installation method. It's much simpler now! Check out my first post for more details. Still looking for someone to beta-test my Vista version. If you want to do so, please make sure you view the thread with Firefox when you go to copy the .bat! (Or just quote the post and copy it out that way.) --P Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
XLord Amarr De Valken BV Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.26 20:26:00 - [38] Edited by: XLord on 26/06/2007 20:28:38 tried that file (even when i do use firefox) and still didnt work for me:S this is some weird **** and i hope ccp will fix it realy soon cos i wanna play edit: i just found something out when i tried it. when i should get the login screen i get nothing but my xfire still tells me im on eve, and in my list of running procesthingys theres 1 thing-> evefiles.exe dont know if it can help you guys, but that program stays active even when i dont see anything of eve on my screen.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:08:00 - [39] Originally by: XLord Edited by: XLord on 26/06/2007 20:28:38 tried that file (even when i do use firefox) and still didnt work for me:S this is some weird ** and i hope ccp will fix it realy soon cos i wanna play edit: i just found something out when i tried it. when i should get the login screen i get nothing but my xfire still tells me im on eve, and in my list of running procesthingys theres 1 thing-> evefiles.exe dont know if it can help you guys, but that program stays active even when i dont see anything of eve on my screen. If you have an existing, "stuck" process, ending it can often clear things up. Press CTRL-ALT-DELETE, go to the Processes tab, and kill any "exefile.exe" processes you see. Then try the .bat again. --P Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
DeODokktor Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:47:00 - [40] Pilks way will keep the logs seperate (but if your using a single install then teh cache still gets shared) To keep all logs AND cache seperate go here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=527827 It's a bit of a pain to set up, but it's well worth the effort.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.27 05:52:00 - [41] Originally by: DeODokktor Pilks way will keep the logs seperate (but if your using a single install then teh cache still gets shared) To keep all logs AND cache seperate go here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=527827 It's a bit of a pain to set up, but it's well worth the effort. If you want to keep a separate cache for each individual account, as opposed to each individual install, simply remove the "/end /LUA:OFF" from the end of the last line, and change the "set" lines to read: set EVEPATH=%CD% set RAMPATH=%EVEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=d:\path\to\profile Replace "d:\path\to\profile" with the actual path to the cache and log directory you want to use. Then make a copy of the .bat file in your Eve directory for each account you want to keep separate, and modify the PROFPATH accordingly. If the path doesn't exist, it'll automatically get created by the batch file, so no worries there. That said, what you're suggesting seems like overkill. My clients worked fine before the Revelations II changes, and my script as it stands replicates that exact same behavior; that is, if you copy a folder with an Eve installation and a copy of my .bat in it, you can literally just double-click the new folder's .bat and it'll automatically adapt to its new location. No fuss, and your Sisi settings won't step on your TQ settings, and you can keep a separate installation for your freighter pilot and your capital pilot(s), as I do. Still, if you want the functionality, there it is. One-line change. :) --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Dawson Samsung	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:55:00 - [42] I will try this as soon as I get home, thanks
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.27 20:53:00 - [43] Originally by: Dawson Samsung I will try this as soon as I get home, thanks :) --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Ryo Jang Central Defiance Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.06.27 23:26:00 - [44] thanks man, fixed it first time. it takes a while for the login screen to appear once its done its magic, so for those wondering why its not working, be patient, took about 1 minute to appear for me.
Dameon Blackthorne	Posted - 2007.06.28 04:05:00 - [45] EXACTLY what I needed, and with only 8 hours to spare on skill training... --Dameon Blackthorne One with your nightmares. Feared by all, known by no one. Blend with darkness, gone. --Death's Guise
MacQueen Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.28 06:19:00 - [46] Thanks for the fix! I'm wondering though, do I always have to use the batch file to start my game now? What the heck happened, why did it break, and why does using this batch script fix it.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.28 06:47:00 - [47] Originally by: MacQueen Thanks for the fix! I'm wondering though, do I always have to use the batch file to start my game now? What the heck happened, why did it break, and why does using this batch script fix it. Using the .bat to start Eve is probably easiest and safest. You can, of course, make a shortcut to that .bat and place it on your start menu, your desktop, or wherever else you typically launch Eve from. If you'd rather not have to use the .bat every time, the rule is that, since the default location for these files is commingled amongst installations, if only one installation is using the default location, you're fine. That is to say, so long as ONLY ONE installation is run without the .bat, nothing is fundamentally different than running all the installations with a .bat. Does that make sense, or am I phrasing it poorly? At any rate, I'd suggest you just use the .bat every time and for every install. Keeps things cleaner, IMHO. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
MacQueen Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.28 06:50:00 - [48] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: MacQueen Thanks for the fix! I'm wondering though, do I always have to use the batch file to start my game now? What the heck happened, why did it break, and why does using this batch script fix it. Using the .bat to start Eve is probably easiest and safest. You can, of course, make a shortcut to that .bat and place it on your start menu, your desktop, or wherever else you typically launch Eve from. If you'd rather not have to use the .bat every time, the rule is that, since the default location for these files is commingled amongst installations, if only one installation is using the default location, you're fine. That is to say, so long as ONLY ONE installation is run without the .bat, nothing is fundamentally different than running all the installations with a .bat. Does that make sense, or am I phrasing it poorly? At any rate, I'd suggest you just use the .bat every time and for every install. Keeps things cleaner, IMHO. --P Yeah that makes sense, and the batch file works very nicely. Thanks again. Although I still don't know why this started happening. It started when I patched my other (test) client to the latest SISI build. Does the problem something to do with the new cache location?
XLord Amarr De Valken BV Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 09:42:00 - [49] yea, it does. they both store info on same location and thats the problem they atleast should have given us some warning or something about this.
Krezeb Caldari Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.06.28 10:21:00 - [50] This should definatly be stickied. ----- New Sig Pending....
cydex Memento Mori.	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:53:00 - [51] still doesn't work with the .bat, after the rev2 loading screen nothing happens (ExeFile.exe is running in process tab) any suggestions ?
Michel LaTour	Posted - 2007.06.28 13:00:00 - [52] (bump) Works great for me :)
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:56:00 - [53] Originally by: cydex still doesn't work with the .bat, after the rev2 loading screen nothing happens (ExeFile.exe is running in process tab) any suggestions ? Kill the exefile.exe process, make sure you're running with administrative privileges, and try again? If that doesn't work, post here and we'll try to work it out. --P : On the command line (start->run, "cmd"): NET USER "%USERNAME%" Make sure "Local Group Memberships" includes Administrators, like so: ...snip Logon hours allowed All Local Group Memberships Administrators Global Group memberships None The command completed successfully. Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
XLord Amarr De Valken BV Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:20:00 - [54] done that doesnt work, and i guess it doesnt work for him. as we both have the same problem with the .bat (tried the thing you said above and im admin on this comp, so it should work:S)
Bishop Endarr Minmatar Unitas Nusquam Est FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.06.28 20:04:00 - [55] The bat file did it I wub u! Was about to try reinstalling my main client AGAIN Saved me a lot of unhappy moments ------------------------------------------------- IFH - 2co
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.28 21:31:00 - [56] Originally by: XLord done that doesnt work, and i guess it doesnt work for him. as we both have the same problem with the .bat (tried the thing you said above and im admin on this comp, so it should work:S) Please check to make sure this is an exact description of your problem: You activate the .bat, either by double-clicking it, or a shortcut to it. A box with a black background and white text appears for a few moments, then disappears. The splash screen appears, then goes away. If you check task manager (CTRL-ALT-DELETE), exactly one copy of Exefile.exe is listed under your processes tab, but nothing is popping up a window for you to enter your login details. Is that accurate? Also, to all those who've been saying it's working: thanks for the bumps and the reassurances that this is working well for most people! --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Multimedia Carl	Posted - 2007.06.28 21:35:00 - [57] instead of making the people of eve having to fix it,, CCP should do something about it !!!!! its thier Game after all
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.29 03:07:00 - [58] Originally by: Multimedia Carl instead of making the people of eve having to fix it,, CCP should do something about it !!!!! its thier Game after all I agree, but apparently they were under pressure from Microsoft to make this change. Meantime, at least they left room for a workaround like this one. Otherwise, we'd be really screwed. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
DeltaH NOBODY Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.29 04:45:00 - [59] Thank you Pilk, worked great.
Corruption Stopper Valiant Logistics Inc. Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.06.29 05:14:00 - [60] Man you are alife saver i have been trying to login for going on 3 days now with NO responce from CCP on my petitions if i see you in space the drinks are on me
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.29 05:26:00 - [61] Originally by: Corruption Stopper Man you are alife saver i have been trying to login for going on 3 days now with NO responce from CCP on my petitions if i see you in space the drinks are on me o7, fly safe. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
XLord Amarr De Valken BV Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.29 07:11:00 - [62] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: XLord done that doesnt work, and i guess it doesnt work for him. as we both have the same problem with the .bat (tried the thing you said above and im admin on this comp, so it should work:S) Please check to make sure this is an exact description of your problem: You activate the .bat, either by double-clicking it, or a shortcut to it. A box with a black background and white text appears for a few moments, then disappears. The splash screen appears, then goes away. If you check task manager (CTRL-ALT-DELETE), exactly one copy of Exefile.exe is listed under your processes tab, but nothing is popping up a window for you to enter your login details. Is that accurate? --P yes thats 100% correct
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.29 22:34:00 - [63] Edited by: Pilk on 29/06/2007 22:33:33 Originally by: XLord Originally by: Pilk Originally by: XLord done that doesnt work, and i guess it doesnt work for him. as we both have the same problem with the .bat (tried the thing you said above and im admin on this comp, so it should work:S) Please check to make sure this is an exact description of your problem: You activate the .bat, either by double-clicking it, or a shortcut to it. A box with a black background and white text appears for a few moments, then disappears. The splash screen appears, then goes away. If you check task manager (CTRL-ALT-DELETE), exactly one copy of Exefile.exe is listed under your processes tab, but nothing is popping up a window for you to enter your login details. Is that accurate? --P yes thats 100% correct Hmm. I got nothing, then. File a bug report. This .bat seems to fix that sort of thing for almost everyone else. Let me know what they say the problem is, please. :( --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.01 14:32:00 - [64] Really? No stickeh? :( --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.01 15:43:00 - [65] I have updated the post with a walkthrough of exactly what each line in the .bat does. Also, please see this post for information regarding this .bat file's legality. (Executive summary: It's A-OK!) --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Multimedia Carl	Posted - 2007.07.01 15:51:00 - [66] i did the moving of the .Bat file thing. but when running the .bat file it just freezes at the Eve rev. Screen ?
Brazero Amarr Noble House	Posted - 2007.07.01 16:47:00 - [67] Originally by: Pilk Really, no responses, guys? I thought this was needed, judging by the number of people ***ing on IRC. Oh, well. --P Why all this \Program Files\ rubbish? Are you installing games in that folder? Your solution doesn't make life easyer for anyone. The only fix to this mess is if CCP could come up with an option where ppl can make a choise. Or better even, let things be like they were before the patch. Quote:** <tuxford> Ah yes the Amarrians. Now bear with me apparantly I don't play Amarr or have ever heard of them, I read it on the forums.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.02 04:08:00 - [68] Originally by: Multimedia Carl i did the moving of the .Bat file thing. but when running the .bat file it just freezes at the Eve rev. Screen ? That's just Eve, not my .bat. That said, Eve can take a few moments to finish loading. Have you given it at least 5-10 minutes to load up that first time? Double-check you're running with the .bat and that you didn't accidentally create a shortcut to the .exe. If that doesn't work, clear your (local) cache: C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve\cache\ If THAT doesn't work, try deleting everything under "C:\program files\ccp\eve\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings" or equivalent (don't delete the history.txt file in "C:\program files\ccp\eve\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\" or the .bat will just copy it all back). This will reset all your client-side settings, though, so don't do it unless you need to. Remember to give the client up to ten minutes to start after doing either of these, since it needs to re-download a lot of data. Originally by: Brazero Originally by: Pilk Really, no responses, guys? I thought this was needed, judging by the number of people ***ing on IRC. Oh, well. --P Why all this \Program Files\ rubbish? Are you installing games in that folder? Your solution doesn't make life easyer for anyone. The only fix to this mess is if CCP could come up with an option where ppl can make a choise. Or better even, let things be like they were before the patch. I'm confused. Are you complaining that I install my copy of Eve to the default location specified in the installer? Complaining that my solution "doesn't make life easyer [sic] for anyone" seems not just a little bit trollish, considering all the enthusiastic endorsements of my approach elsewhere in this thread, and the way it's solved MY problems running TQ, RAMDrive-enabled TQ, and Sisi clients side-by-side. So... what's your complaint, exactly? That you shouldn't have to mess around with all this, because CCP should make everything simple and easy? You'll hear no disagreement from me. --P Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
Nark	Posted - 2007.07.02 12:40:00 - [69] Hi I am having problems running my 2 accounts at the same time and another post directed me here but I am unsure if this will solve my problem. Just thought I would ask if it will help? Regards Nark
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.02 17:35:00 - [70] Originally by: Nark Hi I am having problems running my 2 accounts at the same time and another post directed me here but I am unsure if this will solve my problem. Just thought I would ask if it will help? Regards Nark It certainly won't hurt, it doesn't permanent modify anything (i.e., you can stop using it at any time without having to do anything but delete the .bat itself) and it often solves issues like yours. Let me know how it works. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.04 16:07:00 - [71] Barring reply, one last bumpeh in case anyone hasn't yet figured out a way to solve these sorts of issues. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Ndaar	Posted - 2007.07.04 16:09:00 - [72] is there a vista fix? cant find it or am i blind?
Kaven Kantrix Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.07.04 17:31:00 - [73] I am using this batch file for my 2 "installs", one for each account. I was hoping that it would stop Eve from randomly loosing all my settings every now and then (about once daily, or once every other day, for each client). It hasnt. :( Any ideas what, if anything, I can do to help eve not loose my settings? By settings, I mean this: Screen resolution, window positions (like chat box, ships box, items box, etc), overview custom settings (i used to keep several presets), drone groups, etc.
Josiah Bleak Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.07.04 20:18:00 - [74] Thank you for this great fix Pilk - CCP should make you a job offer. Jos Bleak.
Apoc Mudekii Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.05 11:10:00 - [75] Originally by: Kaven Kantrix I am using this batch file for my 2 "installs", one for each account. I was hoping that it would stop Eve from randomly loosing all my settings every now and then (about once daily, or once every other day, for each client). It hasnt. :( Any ideas what, if anything, I can do to help eve not loose my settings? By settings, I mean this: Screen resolution, window positions (like chat box, ships box, items box, etc), overview custom settings (i used to keep several presets), drone groups, etc. I'm getting the exact same problem mate, i hope it gets fixed soon
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.05 18:18:00 - [76] Originally by: Apoc Mudekii Originally by: Kaven Kantrix I am using this batch file for my 2 "installs", one for each account. I was hoping that it would stop Eve from randomly loosing all my settings every now and then (about once daily, or once every other day, for each client). It hasnt. :( Any ideas what, if anything, I can do to help eve not loose my settings? By settings, I mean this: Screen resolution, window positions (like chat box, ships box, items box, etc), overview custom settings (i used to keep several presets), drone groups, etc. I'm getting the exact same problem mate, i hope it gets fixed soon Check your computer's date and time (and year!). --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Ndaar	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:43:00 - [77] So no vista solution? I check date time and year Run as admin Deleted cahce Ran your batch file added that thing to the exe file So far nothing, Id also say that this si a brand new isntlal of vista and a brand new isntlal of Eve. No one seems to be ablr to help, running a 14 day trial, so far i played one day of it and that was on a XP machine.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.06 03:00:00 - [78] Edited by: Pilk on 06/07/2007 02:59:42 Originally by: Ndaar So no vista solution? I check date time and year Run as admin Deleted cahce Ran your batch file added that thing to the exe file So far nothing, Id also say that this si a brand new isntlal of vista and a brand new isntlal of Eve. No one seems to be ablr to help, running a 14 day trial, so far i played one day of it and that was on a XP machine. If you've only got one install of Eve, and it's on a Vista machine, you shouldn't need my .bat file, or anything else. It should "just work", at most perhaps requiring you to "run as" an administrator (don't have a Vista box, so I don't know for sure). If you can't get ONE account and ONE installation to work with Vista, that's outside the scope of what I can help with; you need to contact CCP directly. Sorry. :( --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Yushie	Posted - 2007.07.06 10:45:00 - [79] Pilk i've been using your batch file for 3 EVE installs running two accounts and one for the test server, i run only from the batch file and followed all the other instructions. It seemed to work ok for a while, but i've just logged in to all my settings and presets gone again :/ Appreciated your efforts to provide a fix for CCP's monumentally annoying changes, and am only posting really to provide a bit of feedback and in the vain hope that keeping this issue bumped will convince CCP to do something about this themselves.
Korvin Kantrix	Posted - 2007.07.07 03:19:00 - [80] This may seem silly, but can your bat file copy my good saved settings somewhere for backups, and then maybe you could provide another bat file to restore these good settings if we log in and its all screwed up? I am talking about the daily screw ups here. Your bat does a good job of fixing CCP's insane file system, but it only does that once. After that its not restoring good settings anymore.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.07 03:50:00 - [81] Originally by: Korvin Kantrix This may seem silly, but can your bat file copy my good saved settings somewhere for backups, and then maybe you could provide another bat file to restore these good settings if we log in and its all screwed up? I am talking about the daily screw ups here. Your bat does a good job of fixing CCP's insane file system, but it only does that once. After that its not restoring good settings anymore. Sure. Add these four lines just before the last line: mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" rmdir /S /Q "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" The first makes a backup directory tree. Each one will be named according to the current date, so you'll have: (eve directory)\backups\Fri 07\06\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sat 07\07\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sun 07\08\2007\settings and so forth There's a way to use FOR and FIND to break up the date so it doesn't create those weird directory structures, but for a job this simple, it really doesn't seem like too much of a dealbreaker. The second line deletes any existing data in there. The third line adds the "settings" directory back, which was deleted by the previous line (again, I could make this prettier, but I CBA). The fourth line copies over all the data from the "settings" directory into the "currently-active" backup directory. No guarantees what'll happen if you run it at 23:59:59 at night, but short of that, it's rock-solid, just a bit ugly. ;) --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
akirahayase Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.07.07 14:55:00 - [82] Works on a Asus mobo amd dual core :) exelent job ! thnx
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.08 11:43:00 - [83] I got round the 2 accounts thing by making a shortcut in each installations folder to the "eve.exe" then giving the shortcut the "/end /LUA:OFF" command (you can't set it straight on the exe in Vista, I use a modified version of DarkShikari's RamDisk bat file that routes through Eve launcher. Basically it was a bit fiddly, but i have both install working from Vista 1 on each monitor, works like a charm, except that I'm ure it uses only 1 prefs.ini which means opening the wrong account on the wrong monitor sometimes, but thats it. Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways. And I won't be coe
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.08 16:34:00 - [84] Originally by: Del369 I got round the 2 accounts thing by making a shortcut in each installations folder to the "eve.exe" then giving the shortcut the "/end /LUA:OFF" command (you can't set it straight on the exe in Vista, I use a modified version of DarkShikari's RamDisk bat file that routes through Eve launcher. Basically it was a bit fiddly, but i have both install working from Vista 1 on each monitor, works like a charm, except that I'm ure it uses only 1 prefs.ini which means opening the wrong account on the wrong monitor sometimes, but thats it. Correct, though the solution you describe shares the settings folder (and the logs folder) between the installs, which is a disadvantage in my book (even, potentially, a LARGE disadvantage, if you do a lot of work on the test server). While both the multiple-Windows-accounts and the /end /LUA:OFF approaches do work (the latter to a lesser extent), I much prefer using my .bat, as it: a) doesn't require me to create additional user accounts b) keeps my old settings c) maintains separation of logs and settings across different installs, and d) easily expands to manage a RAMDisk, as well I should really post my RAMDisk version of the script at some point. I just really don't want to have to support people who run into problems with it, because there are so many user-specific aspects to peoples' RAMDisk setups. I suppose, if you need it, say something here and I'll post it. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:11:00 - [85] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Del369 I got round the 2 accounts thing by making a shortcut in each installations folder to the "eve.exe" then giving the shortcut the "/end /LUA:OFF" command (you can't set it straight on the exe in Vista, I use a modified version of DarkShikari's RamDisk bat file that routes through Eve launcher. Basically it was a bit fiddly, but i have both install working from Vista 1 on each monitor, works like a charm, except that I'm ure it uses only 1 prefs.ini which means opening the wrong account on the wrong monitor sometimes, but thats it. Correct, though the solution you describe shares the settings folder (and the logs folder) between the installs, which is a disadvantage in my book (even, potentially, a LARGE disadvantage, if you do a lot of work on the test server). While both the multiple-Windows-accounts and the /end /LUA:OFF approaches do work (the latter to a lesser extent), I much prefer using my .bat, as it: a) doesn't require me to create additional user accounts b) keeps my old settings c) maintains separation of logs and settings across different installs, and d) easily expands to manage a RAMDisk, as well I should really post my RAMDisk version of the script at some point. I just really don't want to have to support people who run into problems with it, because there are so many user-specific aspects to peoples' RAMDisk setups. I suppose, if you need it, say something here and I'll post it. --P yes post it please, i'll see if i can adapt it to the way i need it. Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways. And I won't be coe
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:05:00 - [86] Originally by: Del369 yes post it please, i'll see if i can adapt it to the way i need it. Okay, don't make fun of me too much. This doesn't contain the old-settings-copyover code, and it's frankly a mess. If it makes no sense, let me know, and I'll try to rethink it. For now, it works. :D @echo off set EVEPATH=%CD% REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \) set BASEPATH=S:\CHARACTER1 ;or S:\Pilk, S:\PilkAlt1, S:\PilkAlt2, etc. set RAMPATH=%BASEPATH%\cache set PROFPATH=%BASEPATH%\UserProfile mkdir "%PROFPATH%\Local Settings\Application Data" mkdir "%PROFPATH%\My Documents" IF EXIST "%RAMPATH%\prefs.ini" ( @echo "RAMDisk already in use!" set RETURNPOINT=2 goto runit ) @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" "%RAMPATH%" @echo files copied set USERPROFILE=%PROFPATH% :runit "%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF goto returnpoint%RETURNPOINT% :returnpoint cls @echo ( Only press when you shut down Eve. ) pause :cleanup rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%RAMPATH%" "%EVEPATH%\cache2\" rmdir /s /q "%RAMPATH%" mkdir "%RAMPATH%" :returnpoint2 :end exit The .bat can safely be launched while another copy of it is (still) running. That comes in handy, since when I'm logging on and off a lot (to swap between alts, for example), I don't need to copy everything to and from the RAMDrive each time if I just leave the old .bat running, minimized, in the background, waiting at the "pause". --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.10 21:30:00 - [87] Got it, much appreciated, I'll let you know the results :) Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways. And I won't be coe
Yushie	Posted - 2007.07.11 08:18:00 - [88] Am I the only one that is using this batch file for all eve installs and still getting my settings reset periodically?
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.11 08:29:00 - [89] Originally by: Yushie Am I the only one that is using this batch file for all eve installs and still getting my settings reset periodically? Check your computer's date/time. Worst-case scenario, update your clock one last time, then delete everything in: (eve directory)\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\Eve\settings Make sure NOT to delete this file: (eve directory)\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\Eve\History.txt You'll have to redo your settings once, but then they should stick. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Kaven Kantrix Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.07.11 23:33:00 - [90] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Korvin Kantrix This may seem silly, but can your bat file copy my good saved settings somewhere for backups, and then maybe you could provide another bat file to restore these good settings if we log in and its all screwed up? I am talking about the daily screw ups here. Your bat does a good job of fixing CCP's insane file system, but it only does that once. After that its not restoring good settings anymore. Sure. Add these four lines just before the last line: mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" rmdir /S /Q "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" The first makes a backup directory tree. Each one will be named according to the current date, so you'll have: (eve directory)\backups\Fri 07\06\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sat 07\07\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sun 07\08\2007\settings and so forth There's a way to use FOR and FIND to break up the date so it doesn't create those weird directory structures, but for a job this simple, it really doesn't seem like too much of a dealbreaker. The second line deletes any existing data in there. The third line adds the "settings" directory back, which was deleted by the previous line (again, I could make this prettier, but I CBA). The fourth line copies over all the data from the "settings" directory into the "currently-active" backup directory. No guarantees what'll happen if you run it at 23:59:59 at night, but short of that, it's rock-solid, just a bit ugly. ;) --P Sorry, this does not work. Today I lost my settings, so I went into the backup directory and copied them over the current ones. No effect. So I looked more carefully at your bat file. You are copying from the local settings path when backing up. But since the batch file uses the /end /lua stuff, thats not where it keeps the up to date settings. So, in effect, your batch file backs up the same files every day that arent used at all. It should, instead, be copying from the original prepatch file locations.
Apoc Mudekii Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.12 17:26:00 - [91] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Apoc Mudekii Originally by: Kaven Kantrix I am using this batch file for my 2 "installs", one for each account. I was hoping that it would stop Eve from randomly loosing all my settings every now and then (about once daily, or once every other day, for each client). It hasnt. :( Any ideas what, if anything, I can do to help eve not loose my settings? By settings, I mean this: Screen resolution, window positions (like chat box, ships box, items box, etc), overview custom settings (i used to keep several presets), drone groups, etc. I'm getting the exact same problem mate, i hope it gets fixed soon Check your computer's date and time (and year!). --P I've checked my comps dat/time/year all accurate, this is one of the responses i got from a petition too and still i get settings reset
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.12 19:02:00 - [92] Originally by: Kaven Kantrix Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Korvin Kantrix This may seem silly, but can your bat file copy my good saved settings somewhere for backups, and then maybe you could provide another bat file to restore these good settings if we log in and its all screwed up? I am talking about the daily screw ups here. Your bat does a good job of fixing CCP's insane file system, but it only does that once. After that its not restoring good settings anymore. Sure. Add these four lines just before the last line: mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" rmdir /S /Q "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" The first makes a backup directory tree. Each one will be named according to the current date, so you'll have: (eve directory)\backups\Fri 07\06\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sat 07\07\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sun 07\08\2007\settings and so forth There's a way to use FOR and FIND to break up the date so it doesn't create those weird directory structures, but for a job this simple, it really doesn't seem like too much of a dealbreaker. The second line deletes any existing data in there. The third line adds the "settings" directory back, which was deleted by the previous line (again, I could make this prettier, but I CBA). The fourth line copies over all the data from the "settings" directory into the "currently-active" backup directory. No guarantees what'll happen if you run it at 23:59:59 at night, but short of that, it's rock-solid, just a bit ugly. ;) --P Sorry, this does not work. Today I lost my settings, so I went into the backup directory and copied them over the current ones. No effect. So I looked more carefully at your bat file. You are copying from the local settings path when backing up. But since the batch file uses the /end /lua stuff, thats not where it keeps the up to date settings. So, in effect, your batch file backs up the same files every day that arent used at all. It should, instead, be copying from the original prepatch file locations. I copy settings from the %PROFPATH% tree, which is where the settings are getting updated, assuming you're running with my .bat. /end /LUA:OFF does NOT affect the settings file locations; that's why the .bat file is needed, in fact. To restore your settings, you'll want to copy from the backup directory into (for example) C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\Eve\settings. Make sure to leave history.txt intact, and remember to use the .bat to start up. Please let me know if that doesn't work, and I'll try to figure out where I messed up. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.12 19:05:00 - [93] Originally by: Apoc Mudekii Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Apoc Mudekii Originally by: Kaven Kantrix I am using this batch file for my 2 "installs", one for each account. I was hoping that it would stop Eve from randomly loosing all my settings every now and then (about once daily, or once every other day, for each client). It hasnt. :( Any ideas what, if anything, I can do to help eve not loose my settings? By settings, I mean this: Screen resolution, window positions (like chat box, ships box, items box, etc), overview custom settings (i used to keep several presets), drone groups, etc. I'm getting the exact same problem mate, i hope it gets fixed soon Check your computer's date and time (and year!). --P I've checked my comps dat/time/year all accurate, this is one of the responses i got from a petition too and still i get settings reset Try the "worst case scenario" option here, making sure to leave history.txt intact. Oh, and make sure you're running with administrative privileges--see this post for a way of checking to be absolutely certain. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Korvin Kantrix	Posted - 2007.07.13 05:21:00 - [94] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Kaven Kantrix Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Korvin Kantrix This may seem silly, but can your bat file copy my good saved settings somewhere for backups, and then maybe you could provide another bat file to restore these good settings if we log in and its all screwed up? I am talking about the daily screw ups here. Your bat does a good job of fixing CCP's insane file system, but it only does that once. After that its not restoring good settings anymore. Sure. Add these four lines just before the last line: mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" rmdir /S /Q "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%PROFPATH%\%SETDIR%" "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" The first makes a backup directory tree. Each one will be named according to the current date, so you'll have: (eve directory)\backups\Fri 07\06\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sat 07\07\2007\settings (eve directory)\backups\Sun 07\08\2007\settings and so forth There's a way to use FOR and FIND to break up the date so it doesn't create those weird directory structures, but for a job this simple, it really doesn't seem like too much of a dealbreaker. The second line deletes any existing data in there. The third line adds the "settings" directory back, which was deleted by the previous line (again, I could make this prettier, but I CBA). The fourth line copies over all the data from the "settings" directory into the "currently-active" backup directory. No guarantees what'll happen if you run it at 23:59:59 at night, but short of that, it's rock-solid, just a bit ugly. ;) --P Sorry, this does not work. Today I lost my settings, so I went into the backup directory and copied them over the current ones. No effect. So I looked more carefully at your bat file. You are copying from the local settings path when backing up. But since the batch file uses the /end /lua stuff, thats not where it keeps the up to date settings. So, in effect, your batch file backs up the same files every day that arent used at all. It should, instead, be copying from the original prepatch file locations. I copy settings from the %PROFPATH% tree, which is where the settings are getting updated, assuming you're running with my .bat. /end /LUA:OFF does NOT affect the settings file locations; that's why the .bat file is needed, in fact. To restore your settings, you'll want to copy from the backup directory into (for example) C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\Eve\settings. Make sure to leave history.txt intact, and remember to use the .bat to start up. Please let me know if that doesn't work, and I'll try to figure out where I messed up. --P I am confused. I look at my files in C:\games\eve\cache\settings and all the file dates are up to date from the last time I played. I use your batch file, and I assume the end lua stuff forces it to use the old path (which is the path i just listed). Now I look at the path you suggested: C:\games\Eve\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\Eve\settings All the files in THERE are from the 4th of july or earlier. As in those files are not being updates by the game (or anything else). Finally, I look at the path: C:\games\eve]backups\thu 07\12\2007\settings In here I see the exact same files that are in the paragraph above here, and they have the exact same file dates. (IE most up to date one is from the fourth, NOT the 12th like the ones in the other place). I am 99% certain that the /end /LUA:OFF parameters make it use the "old path" locations, and my file dates seem to confirm that. So shouldnt you be copying from THERE to the backsup, not from the profpath? I am running Windows XP SP 2, if that makes a difference. I use you batch file, with the 4 extra lines, on both seperate installs.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.13 13:45:00 - [95] Edited by: Pilk on 13/07/2007 13:45:46 Originally by: Korvin Kantrix I am confused. I look at my files in C:\games\eve\cache\settings and all the file dates are up to date from the last time I played. I use your batch file, and I assume the end lua stuff forces it to use the old path (which is the path i just listed). Now I look at the path you suggested: C:\games\Eve\UserProfile\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\Eve\settings All the files in THERE are from the 4th of july or earlier. As in those files are not being updates by the game (or anything else). Finally, I look at the path: C:\games\eve]backups\thu 07\12\2007\settings In here I see the exact same files that are in the paragraph above here, and they have the exact same file dates. (IE most up to date one is from the fourth, NOT the 12th like the ones in the other place). I am 99% certain that the /end /LUA:OFF parameters make it use the "old path" locations, and my file dates seem to confirm that. So shouldnt you be copying from THERE to the backsup, not from the profpath? I am running Windows XP SP 2, if that makes a difference. I use you batch file, with the 4 extra lines, on both seperate installs. BAH! You're right, of course. It appears CCP changed the behavior of the command-line switches in one of the patches. This was not the way it used to work! Okay, so here's your updated set of lines: mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" rmdir /S /Q "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" mkdir "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H /Y "%EVEPATH%\cache\settings" "%EVEPATH%\backups\%DATE%\settings" /me wanders off, muttering something about changelogs. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Kaven Kantrix Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:05:00 - [96] Thanks, that works perfectly. Except you forgot the prefs.ini file that is located one directory above... :)
Pardit Glastor	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:47:00 - [97] I'm having this same problem, this is what I get when I start the .bat a subdirectory or file c:programfiles*** etc already exists. And also a subdirectory of file c:** my documents already exists
Yushie	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:46:00 - [98] Pilk, I appreciate your batch file and all the help and support you've given people using it :D I am getting my settings reset periodically whilst using your batch file, i checked my computers date/time and tried the worst case scenario thing you mentioned (deleting the settings files) and they still didnt stick :/ My issue seems to be the same as the person above and you seem to have sorted it, but (and i feel like a noob having to admit this :p ) its like trying to read greek to me. Could you sum up what you have to change in the batch file and where? Just a note, not sure if its relevant or not but my EVE installs are not in the default location
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.21 13:40:00 - [99] Originally by: Yushie Pilk, I appreciate your batch file and all the help and support you've given people using it :D I am getting my settings reset periodically whilst using your batch file, i checked my computers date/time and tried the worst case scenario thing you mentioned (deleting the settings files) and they still didnt stick :/ My issue seems to be the same as the person above and you seem to have sorted it, but (and i feel like a noob having to admit this :p ) its like trying to read greek to me. Could you sum up what you have to change in the batch file and where? Just a note, not sure if its relevant or not but my EVE installs are not in the default location Originally by: Pardit Glastor I'm having this same problem, this is what I get when I start the .bat a subdirectory or file c:programfiles*** etc already exists. And also a subdirectory of file c: my documents already exists Those errors are a normal part of operation. It tries to create the UserProfile infrastructure, even if it already exists, and for reasons that it gives me great pause to consider, Microsoft does not allow me to pass a switch to the MKDIR command, or even to redirect its output, such that it does not print to the screen when it can't find the directories it's trying to make. While I could wrap the whole thing in an "if" statement, the reality is, it's doing no harm as it stands. So, go about your business, all is well. :) --P Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
mjuka	Posted - 2007.07.23 14:52:00 - [100] Im only running one account at a time, thing is my game keeps crashing after the patch. Will this fix help in anyway? I mean ok, they changed the location of the settings, fair enough. But how is this bad for someone like me who isnt dual-logging? Any ideas what I should try?
Gerome Doutrande Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.24 05:58:00 - [101] Thanks for posting the .bat file and the associated "customer support". I have this reminder for people with German language Win XP versions: German language Win XP does not store the data in $USERPATH\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE but instead in $USERPATH\Lokale Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten\CCP\EVE so make sure you change that in the .bat file. Could also be true for other language versions of Win XP (or Vista), but I am too lazy to look it up. ;)
Gerome Doutrande Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.25 04:47:00 - [102] I am still having my settings randomly reset though even with the .bat file. According to a bug report I submitted about it I need not worry though, because this is an "intended game feature, and not a bug."
Miter	Posted - 2007.08.15 06:35:00 - [103] This is from the original patch notes (33752). My comments are in green. IMPORTANT! When the patch has been deployed, your client(s) patched and you log in for the first time, the cache folder will migrate to the new location specified below. Depending on the size of your cache folder, this may be hardly noticeable, it may take several minutes. Please be patient while this happens and do NOT restart your client if it appears to 'hang'! Thank you. Game capture, log and cache folders have moved from "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE" The capture and logs folders are now located under "My Documents\EVE" The settings and cache folder are stored under Windows 2000/XP: "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE" Well handled by your batch file. Windows Vista: "C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE" The location of the settings folder can be forced to remain where it was stored prior to Revelations II. This can be useful when connecting a second client to a test server and not mix settings between the clients. If the user choses to revert to this storage format, the shortcut needs to be modified to refer to: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF". Note the switches (/end and /LUA:OFF) are case sensitive. It has always been that this switch would keep only the settings folder in the old location. Question 2: I have never run the EvE client since the patch. As such, my data is not moved. What is the best way to start using your batch file in my case? Run eve normally, then have your batch file fix things up? Thanks again for finding a work-around to the criap CCP came up with.
Miter	Posted - 2007.08.15 06:44:00 - [104] Edited by: Miter on 15/08/2007 06:46:29 Edited by: Miter on 15/08/2007 06:44:58 Hmm. Or if I make a temporary batch file, that just makes the infrastructure and sets up the new USERPROFILE and run the normal eve once -- which should copy the files, then use your batch file from that point forward. Oh nevermind... simply using your batch file, the first time eve runs it will do the copying. Cheers.
Miter	Posted - 2007.08.15 10:30:00 - [105] OK. And further since I have no data moved into a strange place by not having run EvE, I can remove most of the lines int eh middle of the the provided batch file. Here is a code snippet to get a YYYYMMDD-HHMM directory name instead of the multipart name from plain %DATE%: Quote: SET HH=%TIME:~0,2% if %TIME:~0,1%==" " set HH=0%HH:~1,1% set DATEDIR=%DATE:~10,4%%DATE:~4,2%%DATE:~7,2%-%HH%%TIME:~3,2%
Miter	Posted - 2007.08.15 10:33:00 - [106] and really who cares about testing for space or zero and just use Quote: set HH=0%HH:~1,1% the first time.
Gippedo	Posted - 2007.09.18 02:38:00 - [107] Edited by: Gippedo on 18/09/2007 02:45:22 Your fix well... simply isnt doing a DAMN THING!!! i too am about to smash my computer to pieces trying to get past the black screen of death!!!i dled your .bat file and extracted as instructed, it is now sitting in my EVE directory completely useless, when i try to use it the splash screen comes up like normal only to be replaced by the black screen of death once again! T_T i need help... and please for the love of god start speaking in english, i have a hard enough time with that without trying to read all this /end/documents@$#()^)&HG mumbo jumbo
Miter	Posted - 2007.09.29 15:09:00 - [108] OK, this latest patch blew away my settings... I'm just going to switch the path order in the xcopy command to copy them back from where they were saved, using the same switches from your batch file. I hope this naive approach works :)
Miter	Posted - 2007.11.03 11:48:00 - [109] My computer just ate itself, so now I'm pretty much forced to have to deal with Vista.
Miter	Posted - 2007.11.04 04:01:00 - [110] OK. Here is what I'm using for Vista. It's not much different. USERPROFILE still redirects everything. The directory substructure is different, however. Note that I have commmented out the 'copy the moved files' lines out, since mine are in the right place already. Those lines are untested. This also backs up settings each time it runs. (and browser cruft, for that matter.) This 'works for me' until I discover otherwise ;-) eve.bat for Vista
Kittamaru Gallente Ceptacemia Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.11.17 01:25:00 - [111] Does the download on the OP still work? Eg, just throw it in the folder, run it, and use the new shortcut? Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes

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